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Post by aj2hall on Jul 12, 2024 15:38:46 GMT
This exactly. Republicans in Ohio almost prevented Biden from being on the ballot. Republicans will throw up every possible road block to another candidate. Democrats did the exact same thing with Trump, then cried in their Cheerios when it didn't work. In the case of Colorado, it was Republicans and independents who tried to keep Trump's name off the ballot by legally challenging it in a court of law. A well known, respected conservative Constitutional scholar was the one who first proposed the idea of using the 14th amendment to keep Trump off the ballot. Not the same thing as what the Republicans tried to do in Ohio. But, you know that.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 12, 2024 15:44:29 GMT
Has it occurred to these pundits that if Harris-or anyone else-were to be the replacement, that they would be sending that candidate into the GOP lion’s den with only a few months to organize and to campaign? And if a replacement candidate were to lose, that it would damage their chances to run in 2028? Not only that, but as President Biden pointed out, 14 million voters chose him in the primaries. Is it democratic for delegates to replace him at the convention? The opportunity for a change was months ago. We're well past the point of no return. President Biden is the nominee, it's time to unite behind him and throw all of our efforts into defeating Trump instead of infighting which is what the media and Republicans are craving.
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Post by Merge on Jul 12, 2024 15:45:48 GMT
Has it occurred to these pundits that if Harris-or anyone else-were to be the replacement, that they would be sending that candidate into the GOP lion’s den with only a few months to organize and to campaign? And if a replacement candidate were to lose, that it would damage their chances to run in 2028? Not only that, but as President Biden pointed out, 14 million voters chose him in the primaries. Is it democratic for delegates to replace him at the convention? The opportunity for a change was months ago. We're well past the point of no return. President Biden is the nominee, it's time to unite behind him and throw all of our efforts into defeating Trump instead of infighting which is what the media and Republicans are craving. I'm inclined to think that anyone who didn't bother to vote in the primaries should keep their mouth closed on the subject.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 12, 2024 15:50:34 GMT
fantasy footballAcyn @acyn Whitmer: I understand that some are playing fantasy football and want to just pick a couple of random leaders that they like across the country and design a ticket that's just not how this works…
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 12, 2024 15:56:30 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 12, 2024 16:13:22 GMT
I'm not posting the tweet because there is some profanity. However, she has an excellent point. Trump saying that he will allow Putin to attack our allies is a much bigger problem than President Biden accidentally calling President Zelensky the wrong name. x.com/JoJoFromJerz/status/1811529586242457802
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 12, 2024 16:17:58 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 12, 2024 16:19:30 GMT
The difference is one is spreading lies and deliberate misinformation. The other is copying things that have actually happened. She could probably spell it all out instead of using tweets, but using tweets is easier. No she is often reposting someone else’s opinion. Just because someone agrees with another opinion doesn’t make that factual. TBH my takeaway from her posts is that she doesn’t have her own opinions. Maybe she does but it is a narwhal experience when she posts her own thoughts. Using tweets isn’t easier. The page loads slower and when you hit the new button it doesn’t actually take you to the new post. This only happens on the threads with all the tweet reposts. Full disclosure , I called a friend and read her the bit about me not having any opinions. We both had a good laugh over that. So thanks for that, it’s always good to start off the day with a laugh.
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Post by Laurie on Jul 12, 2024 18:17:27 GMT
No she is often reposting someone else’s opinion. Just because someone agrees with another opinion doesn’t make that factual. TBH my takeaway from her posts is that she doesn’t have her own opinions. Maybe she does but it is a narwhal experience when she posts her own thoughts. Using tweets isn’t easier. The page loads slower and when you hit the new button it doesn’t actually take you to the new post. This only happens on the threads with all the tweet reposts. Full disclosure , I called a friend and read her the bit about me not having any opinions. We both had a good laugh over that. So thanks for that, it’s always good to start off the day with a laugh. Then post YOUR thoughts and opinions on here and I would be inclined to read and discuss. I am not the only one that has ever said this to you so this isn’t something new you have heard.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 12, 2024 21:55:42 GMT
Still think the objections to VP Harris have nothing to do with her race? They have everything to do with her race. The birther conspiracy Trump falsely promoted against President Obama is the same as his false claims about Nikki Haley and the ridiculous claims that VP Harris is a DEI hire and will be a DEI president. They are all based on racism and misogyny, in the case of Haley and Harris. www.nytimes.com/2024/07/12/business/media/news-outlets-kamala-harris.htmlSince Ms. Harris was announced as Mr. Biden’s vice-presidential pick, the right-wing media has painted Ms. Harris as a far-left politician and has falsely claimed she is ineligible for the position as the child of immigrants. It has also argued that if she were chosen as the Democratic candidate, it would be simply because of her race.
Last weekend, The New York Post continued that line of attack in a column with the headline “America may soon be subjected to the country’s first DEI president: Kamala Harris.” The writer, Charles Gasparino, said that Ms. Harris was well positioned to become the nominee if Mr. Biden were to step down. But if he stayed on the ticket and won, Mr. Gasparino argued, she’d still get the job because Mr. Biden would be unlikely to finish out a second term.[
During a segment of his show, Rob Schmitt, an anchor, questioned whether Ms. Harris would fare better than Mr. Biden in the swing states of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
In response to Mr. Schmitt’s question, Sebastian Gorka, a former White House aide for Mr. Trump, argued that Democrats would support her because of her race and gender. “She’s a D.E.I. hire. She’s a woman. She’s colored. Therefore she’s got to be good,” Mr. Gorka said. /i]
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 13, 2024 0:27:18 GMT
President Biden is in Detroit. Here is what he wants to do in a 2nd term. He accomplished fair amount of things. Certainly not everything he wanted. You can thank the voters for that.
Biden - Harris HQ…
’President Biden lays out his second term agenda:
—Restore Roe v. Wade —Sign John Lewis Voting Rights Act —Expand Social Security and Medicare —End all medical debt —Raise the minimum wage —Pass the PRO Act for workers —Ban assault weapons —Lead the world on clean energy —Permanent child tax credit —$35 insulin cap for all —Build more housing —Invest in child care and elder care”
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 13, 2024 3:26:39 GMT
It's time to let Biden and his surrogates speak about his record and what he will do if he wins a 2nd term. Turn the focus back to the issues, current threats etc and away from the manufactured drama of the possibility of stepping down. Trudeau
Pete
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 13, 2024 3:32:40 GMT
Trae Crowder posted a video about Biden stepping down. I disagree with him, but I respect him for posting this video. I think he speaks to the genuine fear that Trump could possibly win. Trae Crowder
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 13, 2024 3:37:25 GMT
I think the media and pundits are overlooking the opinions of average Americans. This crowd cheered don't you quit. In the 2nd video, the crowd chanted we have your back. Other crowds have cheered 4 more years. Somehow, the polls and the media are missing the genuine enthusiasm at these rallies for President Biden. don't you quit
we have your back
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Post by ntsf on Jul 13, 2024 3:40:52 GMT
on pbs newshour, near the end of the show, they have commentators.. Brooks and capart. not capart gave the best answer to the biden thing. biden said he is staying and everyone needs to get behind him.. but the way he said it was brillant.
the propaganda from trump about bidens age has been going on forever.. we should not fall for what is not essential.. the policies need to be the focus.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 13, 2024 3:51:00 GMT
on pbs newshour, near the end of the show, they have commentators.. Brooks and capart. not capart gave the best answer to the biden thing. biden said he is staying and everyone needs to get behind him.. but the way he said it was brillant. the propaganda from trump about bidens age has been going on forever.. we should not fall for what is not essential.. the policies need to be the focus. This was on MSNBC, but pretty convincing why the party needs to unite behind Biden starting with the risk of a Trump nominee on the Supreme Court. He also makes the excellent point that why should moderates and independents cast a vote for Biden if his own party can't unite behind him. www.msnbc.com/jonathan-capehart/watch/why-biden-should-stay-in-the-2024-race-213958725524eta - this might be the clip from PBS. He talks about moving goal posts. He also talks about people running scared and how the polls don't show that. They haven't cratered, even after Biden's debate performance. www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFIMNqiqRVI
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 13, 2024 3:53:23 GMT
Jasmine Crockett makes a great point too. She makes an analogy to cough syrup that it doesn't taste great, but it's what your body needs. We don't just replace somebody because in a 90 minute performance, it wasn't his best day. www.msnbc.com/jonathan-capehart/watch/rep-jasmine-crockett-defends-pres-biden-after-debate-213958213512She makes a couple of great points here, too in response to the Republican jackwagon who wants to return to the 1960's real threats
Jasmine Crockett. @jasmineforus I just wish the media would cover the real threats that we face as Americans… 1) Project 2025, 2) MAGA has made their agenda clear that they don’t want to move forward but instead back to the times of Jim Crow… remember they had a black R glorify Jim Crow 👇🏾, THIS IS NOT A DRILL! 3) There’s no perfection in politics, but we may find some protection (of our rights, our humanity, our education, our existence, our freedoms, our future)
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 13, 2024 9:33:44 GMT
More about the Republican dirtbag who wants to turn back the clock to 1960. The media needs more coverage of this, not rehashing Biden’s debate performance from 2 weeks ago. heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/july-12-2024Representative Glenn Grothman (R-WI) said yesterday that if Trump wins reelection, the U.S. should work its way back to 1960, before “the angry feminist movement…took the purpose out of the man’s life.” Grothman said that President Lyndon Baines Johnson’s War on Poverty was actually a “war on marriage,” in a communist attempt to hand control of children over to the government.
Grothman was waxing nostalgic for a fantasy past when laws and society discriminated against women, who could not get credit cards in their own name until 1974—meaning that, among other things, they could not build credit scores to borrow money on their own—and who were forced into dependence on men. The 1960 date Grothman chose was notable in another way, too: it was before the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act with which Congress tried to make the racial equality promised in the 1868 Fourteenth Amendment and the voting rights promised in the 1870 Fifteenth Amendment become real.
At stake in Grothman’s erasure of the last sixty years is the equality of women and minorities to the white men who previously exercised virtually complete control of American society. That equality translates into a struggle over the nature of the American government. Since the 1870s, during the reconstruction of the American government after the Civil War, white reactionaries insisted that opening the vote to anyone but white men would result in socialism.
Their argument was that poor voters—by which they meant Black men—would elect leaders who would promise them roads and schools and hospitals, and so on. Those public benefits could be paid for only with tax levies, and since white men held most of the property in the country in those days, they insisted such benefits amounted to a redistribution of wealth from hardworking white men to undeserving Black Americans, even though poor white people would benefit from those public works as much as or more than Black people did.
This argument resurfaced after World War II as an argument against Black and Brown voting and, in the 1970s, against the electoral power of “women’s libbers,” that is, women who called for the federal government to protect the rights of women equally to those of men. Beginning in 1980, when Republican presidential candidate Ronald Reagan called for rolling back the government regulations and social safety net that underpinned society, a gap appeared in voting behavior. Women, especially Black women, tended to back the Democrats, while men moved toward Republican candidates. Increasingly, Republican leaders used racist and sexist tropes to undermine the active government whose business regulations they hated.
For the radical extremists who have taken over the Republican Party, getting rid of the modern government that regulates business, provides a basic social safety net, promotes infrastructure, and protects civil rights is now gospel as they try to replace it with Christian nationalism. But that active government remains popular.
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Post by Just T on Jul 13, 2024 14:32:47 GMT
And you don't think Trump with his rambling word salads full of blatant lies isn't too mentally declined to run the country? LMAO No, I don't. Kamala rambles on with quite the word salads and I don't think she's mentally declining either. I am pro choice. Trump: “The big problem was it was caught up in the federal government, but the people will decide, and that’s the way it should be. The people are now deciding. Some states are a little bit more conservative, and some states are much more liberal. Every voter has to go with your heart.” He believes in abortion in cases of rape and incest or to save the life of the mother. I am truly not trying to be a smart ass, but I do not understand how you can call yourself prochoice when you are okay with people in conservative states not having the same choices. That is not being prochoice, sorry, but it’s just not. A bit more conservative??? REALLY? Do you know what is happening in some of those conservative states? I sure do. I run support groups for parents who’ve experienced a pregnancy or infant loss, and I live in a very red state. I would love to know how you would feel about these “a bit more conservative states” if the following happened to YOUR daughter or granddaughter or any women you care about. This is not an anecdotal story I heard, this is someone I have met and sat in support groups with. Imagine your daughter being 17 weeks pregnant with her first baby. Her water breaks. She ends up in the hospital on strict bedrest being given medications to stave off labor. Nothing wrong with that, that happened before abortion became illegal in my state. After several days, the mom develops an infection, as is quite common after the water breaks. She is put on IV antibiotics, but after several days, the infection is becoming worse. She is now septic. And still just over 18 weeks pregnant. However, her baby still has a heartbeat. Now, even though she is septic, her doctor before the days of abortion being illegal would have been able to deliver her baby at this point in order to save her life. NOW, however, he has to make an appeal to the hospital ethics committee to be able to deliver her baby. This appeal takes more than a day, and the mom is very near death when her doctor is finally able to deliver her baby. She ends up spending over a week in ICU fighting the infection. She has scarring and damage to her uterus due to the infection. Now, she doesn’t know if she will ever be able to have another baby. All of this could have been avoided if her doctor had been able to care for her in the best way at the soonest possibility. I ask you, who won here? And again, I ask, how would you feel if this was your daughter going through such trauma? I’ll share another story that shows you just how much people in these “bit more conservative states” have lost their damn minds. A mom is about 10 weeks pregnant and goes to the er because she is experiencing extreme abdominal pain. It is discovered her baby has implanted in a fallopian tube. The baby still has a heartbeat, but there is zero chance the baby can be saved. Yet her doctor also had to go to the hospital ethics committee to get permission to do surgery to remove the ectopic pregnancy. Meanwhile, this gal is laying in the ER in agony for the more than 8 hours it took her doctor to get permission. By the time he was finally able to do surgery, her tube had ruptured, which will now impact her future fertility. This is another mom I met in our support group. Unfortunately, the field I work in, I know people all over the country who work as nurses, physicians and even hospital ethicists. Stories similar to the two I shared are happening all over the country, One of my best friends is a NICU nurse at a huge children’s hospital in Texas and the things she has shared with me that are now happening are truly heartbreaking. My daughter is currently 18 weeks pregnant with my first grandchild. And I am freaking terrified of some of the things I have heard about happening to her. The only good thing is I live about 30 miles from a state where abortion is not illegal, and I could take her there if necessary. But not everyone has that option or can even afford to do that. So, tell me again how it is okay in your supposedly prochoice mind for some states to have laws that suppress women’s rights in such awful ways?
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 13, 2024 15:02:52 GMT
On cnn this morning a voter said commenting to the effect of “don’t throw me off the boat if you don’t have a way to get me to shore” and I thought that was a great way to look at this situation. Sure, in polls a lot of people say Biden is too old and should step down. But in reality (based on comments here and on social media), that doesn’t equate to people not voting for Biden. If he stepped down, is there a clear path to what happens next that doesn’t mean losing support of those who don’t “like” Kamala?
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 13, 2024 15:12:11 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 13, 2024 18:41:54 GMT
States like Texas aren't just a little more conservative. Abortions are available if the life of the mother is at risk in name only. In reality, thats not what's happening, it's nearly impossible to get an exception. In states like Idaho, OBs are leaving the state, only 1/2 the counties have an OB. Women's lives, physical and mental health are at risk because of abortion bans. Maternal mortality rates for black women in particular were already really high. Post Dobbs, they're now even higher. Women who have been denied abortions are at a significantly higher risk of poverty. More children are already in the foster care system as a result of abortion bans. It's too early to track other long term effects, but there will be negative repercussions of abortion bans for years to come. Republicans' ultimate goals are complete abortion bans with no exceptions, banning abortion medication and criminalizing abortion. That's not just a little more conservative, it's inhumane, lacking compassion and cruel. If you don't recognize this, you're not paying attention. abcnews.go.com/US/fighting-lives-women-impact-abortion-restrictions-post-roe/story?id=105563174publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/abortion-bans-impact-on-mental-healthwww.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-abortion-restrictions-have-disproportionately-impacted-black-womennationalpartnership.org/report/state-abortion-bans-threaten-black-women/www.bidmc.org/about-bidmc/news/2023/10/abortion-bans-linked-to-increase-in-children-entering-foster-systemwww.kff.org/womens-health-policy/issue-brief/dobbs-era-abortion-bans-and-restrictions-early-insights-about-implications-for-pregnancy-loss/www.liftlouisiana.org/criminalizedcarewww.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/03/19/1239376395/louisiana-abortion-ban-dangerously-disrupting-pregnancy-miscarriage-carewww.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/sick-sick-enough-end-pregnancy-doctors-state-laws-are-odds-rcna129039rollcall.com/2023/12/07/state-abortion-bans-bar-exceptions-for-suicide-mental-health/www.brookings.edu/articles/the-criminalization-of-abortion-and-surveillance-of-women-in-a-post-dobbs-world/
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Post by morecowbell on Jul 14, 2024 5:32:59 GMT
I don’t really know anything about morecowbell and her post history. However, I find it rich the queen of reposting tweets is calling out someone for repeating information. I would estimate 90% of your posts are tweets. The difference is one is spreading lies and deliberate misinformation. The other is copying things that have actually happened. She could probably spell it all out instead of using tweets, but using tweets is easier. Please point out the "lies and deliberate misinformation I've spread" otherwise YOU are just lying and posting deliberate misinformation about me.
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Post by morecowbell on Jul 14, 2024 5:38:47 GMT
I've had family members with dementia. They didn't correct the mistake of calling me or my children by the wrong name. I have times where I will call my child, who I gave birth to, by every other family member's name including the dog before I finally get to their name. He corrected it and made a joke. We are voting for his administration, not just Biden. The only way we're screwed is if the Project 2025 Champion wins. I must have dementia too. I call kids by the wrong name just about once a day. It is some sort of glitch in my brain. As a teacher I mostly I call them by their older siblings name since I often had them first. My mom would yell the cats name before mine when I was little and doing something naughty. All the time. When I was little I thought my full name was "cat name my name". And Trump calls people by the wrong name as well. And talks about Hannibal Lector like he is a real person. Doesn't that make him suffering from dementia as well? Where are the posts by the Republicans calling that our? Apples and oranges. YOU are not the president introducing an ally as a dictator, or calling your female VP by your male political opponent's name, along with dozenS of alarming behaviors.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 14, 2024 12:17:23 GMT
No, the guy you support openly meets with dictators. Which do you think is worse? Meeting with a dictator when you are not even in office, a possible violation of the Logan Act or accidentally mixing up names (and later correcting)?
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Post by dawnnikol on Jul 14, 2024 12:26:34 GMT
No, the guy you support openly meets with dictators. Which do you think is worse? Meeting with a dictator when you are not even in office, a possible violation of the Logan Act or accidentally mixing up names (and later correcting)? Didn't TFG confuse E. Jean Carroll with his ex-wife, too? Cool.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 14, 2024 13:29:44 GMT
No, the guy you support openly meets with dictators. Which do you think is worse? Meeting with a dictator when you are not even in office, a possible violation of the Logan Act or accidentally mixing up names (and later correcting)? Didn't TFG confuse E. Jean Carroll with his ex-wife, too? Cool. Exactly. Trump mistakenly called his wife Mercedes once, too. Trump mixes up names all the time. TFG even forgot one of his children. He mixed up Nancy Pelosi and Nikki Haley. He made a mistake and said Orban instead of Erdogan last fall. Trump mixed up Biden and Obama at least 8 different times and gets confused about who was president when. He even endorsed Biden once. Oh, but Trump does it on purpose so it’s OK. Trump gets a free pass. If you’re a Republican, it’s OK. SMDH Since when did we start expecting perfection from politicians? I would much rather someone who acknowledges and corrects mistakes than someone who takes a sharpie to hurricane map because he’s incapable of admitting he made a mistake.
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Post by Merge on Jul 14, 2024 14:00:11 GMT
States like Texas aren't just a little more conservative. Abortions are available if the life of the mother is at risk in name only. In reality, thats not what's happening, it's nearly impossible to get an exception. In states like Idaho, OBs are leaving the state, only 1/2 the counties have an OB. Women's lives, physical and mental health are at risk because of abortion bans. Maternal mortality rates for black women in particular were already really high. Post Dobbs, they're now even higher. Women who have been denied abortions are at a significantly higher risk of poverty. More children are already in the foster care system as a result of abortion bans. It's too early to track other long term effects, but there will be negative repercussions of abortion bans for years to come. Republicans' ultimate goals are complete abortion bans with no exceptions, banning abortion medication and criminalizing abortion. That's not just a little more conservative, it's inhumane, lacking compassion and cruel. If you don't recognize this, you're not paying attention. abcnews.go.com/US/fighting-lives-women-impact-abortion-restrictions-post-roe/story?id=105563174publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/abortion-bans-impact-on-mental-healthwww.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-abortion-restrictions-have-disproportionately-impacted-black-womennationalpartnership.org/report/state-abortion-bans-threaten-black-women/www.bidmc.org/about-bidmc/news/2023/10/abortion-bans-linked-to-increase-in-children-entering-foster-systemwww.kff.org/womens-health-policy/issue-brief/dobbs-era-abortion-bans-and-restrictions-early-insights-about-implications-for-pregnancy-loss/www.liftlouisiana.org/criminalizedcarewww.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/03/19/1239376395/louisiana-abortion-ban-dangerously-disrupting-pregnancy-miscarriage-carewww.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/sick-sick-enough-end-pregnancy-doctors-state-laws-are-odds-rcna129039rollcall.com/2023/12/07/state-abortion-bans-bar-exceptions-for-suicide-mental-health/www.brookings.edu/articles/the-criminalization-of-abortion-and-surveillance-of-women-in-a-post-dobbs-world/I must have missed the “a little more conservative” comment and I don’t care to go back and find it. From my front row to the shit show here in Texas, let me concur with everything you posted above, in addition to the fact that we’re rolling back attempts to provide equal opportunity by banning DEI, erasing the history of people of color, discussions about vaccines and any suggestion of climate change from our curricula. We’re forcing LGBTQ kids and adults back into closets to keep bigots comfortable. We’re destroying our public schools and, oh yeah, we’re a case study for how the conservative push for privatization of public infrastructure has left millions of Texans in the dark while the companies post record profits. We’re denying climate change while simultaneously suffering some of its worst effects. We’re suppressing voters and the lege has plans to do even more of that in the next session by making statewide elections a kind of electoral college situation by county. We’re in a situation where counties that vote blue, like mine, are ignored by our leaders in natural disasters and denied emergency funding as political punishment. And of course, our governor and lege have completely disenfranchised Houston voters by removing our democratically elected school board and installing a gang that is directing our tax dollars and schools without any accountability to taxpayers. Taxation without representation - is all that really just “a little more conservative?” Don’t anyone fucking tell me Dems are overreacting and are being hyperbolic in warning of the coming corporate fascist nightmare. We are living it here. Stop gaslighting us.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 14, 2024 14:14:28 GMT
The difference is one is spreading lies and deliberate misinformation. The other is copying things that have actually happened. She could probably spell it all out instead of using tweets, but using tweets is easier. Please point out the "lies and deliberate misinformation I've spread" otherwise YOU are just lying and posting deliberate misinformation about me. She is clarifying something I said in an earlier post the person she is responding to didn’t get. And I stand by what I said in that post.
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Post by amom23 on Jul 14, 2024 15:07:21 GMT
Hey at least the media has moved on from Biden's poor debate performance LOL.
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