Immigrants who will be deported

I’m really irritated that this guy or others like him didn’t speak out before the election. It’s an ex-ICE official talking about how they do prosecute criminals. www.instagram.com/reel/DCFikQPP8SF/?igsh=ZXN4bDV3d2V2OXFt

So true!!

But we DO KNOW definitively, that tens of millions were let in in the last 4 years. You can’t argue that one away. And I’m going to guess that the ones let in under bush, obama and Trump were more accurately processed than the ones the current guy let in. 

He’s never been convicted of rape and I think the sa charge is ridiculous. 

You bet. The judge lied!!! Right!!

I’m hoping that is how it goes, a lot of talk and very little action. 🤞🏻

He was never convicted of rape. 

We would have had better border security months ago if Trump hadn't squashed the border bill by telling his caucus not to vote for it.  He did this so he could run on immigration reform.  He clearly doesn't care about this issue. He uses it was a way to drum up support.  He's a salesman and that's his pitch.  

The number of illegal immigrants is often exaggerated by right wing media since they never seem to point out that many people are turned back or that the number of encounters can be multiple encounters with the same person.  There are of course some who get through without being caught.  It's a problem but not nearly the numbers Trump claims.  

There’s a big difference between people who came here legally (immigrants) and those who came here illegally (illegals). Immigrants built this country. But the ones that built this country came here through the proper channels. The illegals did not come here through the proper channels and a shit ton of them are living on the taxpayer dime….at the expense of the American people. Some of these illegals are living better than our veterans. I do have a huge problem with that. 

Many of those undocumented immigrants work and pay taxes, pay into someone's SSA account, sales taxes, property taxes etc.. and never collect any of them. They particularly plump up the SSA system to allow others to collect.

I am sorry you've run across issues over the years, and I totally agree with your last sentiment.

My paternal grandparents, and my maternal great-grandparents immigrated to the US. Both sides did so to avoid persecution due to their religious beliefs, but that's another story for another thread. Anyhow, perhaps part of the problem with these folks who don't get it is that they are too far removed from when and why their own family arrived on US soil. I dunno. Trying to make sense of it all.

In general that's difficult when you don't qualify for any programs...

In general, they were handing out loaded credit cards as they got off of busses and airplanes. And put up in luxury hotels with three squares and laundry service. A nice gig if you ask me. 

Isn't this a fun thread.

They will start with the illegals that will be criminals. But it won't be as many as they promised, and the base won't have gotten their fill.

They will add in the illegals that came from s-hole countries. This is where labor starts getting dicey. On top of the tariffs. On top of the migration that will happen to avoid deportation. People are still angry, and the base will need to be appeased or risk losing them. They increase the list of countries.

People will get agitated. There will be protests. They will filter the protestors into those they want to deport (illegal from anywhere, legal but from an s-hole country they can revoke, American citizens they can denaturalize), and those that are sent to labor camps (Capital saying, wait, I actually need *those* people to staff my business or internment camps (the Americans they don't know how to handle, like the Japanese Americans in WWII.) The system will be even more swamped.

The judges like those that aspire to rise through the ranks, will gain favor by signing off on violations of Due Process for expediency. Like what Aileen Cannon and the 5th Circuit Judges are doing now. Bad faith interpretations of law. In 2015, a judge ruled that Texas could deny birth certificates to some children born in the US to immigrants. The case was resolved, but the climate now is very different, isn't it? And I'll say it again, the arguments will be made by judges in bad faith.

At some point the Insurrection Act is triggered. The bad actors are already chomping at the bit to do this. They system continues to break down, and people of all legal status are removed in ways and for reasons that history has seen play out before. If we're lucky it ends here. I was reading a post on Twitter, last night, where someone asked Eva Schloss (Otto Frank's stepdaughter after he remarried after liberation) what she wanted people to know that often gets missed. Answer: "At the time, the community mood/fear for the absolute worst-case scenario was forcible expulsion, maybe deportation to Madagascar." Madagaskarplan

If we aren't, well...

And at each step of the way, some people will deny that it can and is happening. Then rather than admit they were wrong about not crossing the unforgiveable line, they will readjust their thinking that if these people didn't protest, didn't get in the way, they deserve their fate.