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Post by rainangel on Apr 9, 2015 19:22:29 GMT
Leader of the free world? Do you consider The United States to be the only place in the world that is 'free'? Because that is the only part of the world he is the leader of. As a citizen of a country that I consider very free, I find it slightly arrogant to refer to YOUR leader as the leader of all of us. Because he is not  Posting on Twitter being childish? It's the same comments he would make anyway, just a new format to do so in. Maybe people considered it childish when politicians first started to appear on TV...? Have you never heard the POTUS referred to as the leader of the free world before? I'm not American either but, this term has been widely used and comes out of political alliances during the Cold War. Oh, of course I have heard it before  Almost exclusively from Americans. Just because it has been widely used , it still does not make him the leader of 'the free world' and I find it slightly arrogant to call him that. It insinuates a lesser importance about the rest of the world. And the Cold War was over some time ago, let's let go of this term today even if it could have been valid back then. By all means, The United States of America is probably the most powerful and influential nation on the planet. Not arguing that! And their leader is absolutely someone who holds great importance worldwide. But he is not the leader of 'the free world' |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 19:46:08 GMT
I guess I really don't see the whole attraction of Twitter whatsoever. I'm all for FB and Instagram, but the whole Twitter thing just seems kind of dumb to me. Of course, part of it could be the fact that the co-worker that sits next to me sits there and announces when someone new follows him or re-tweets him and his tweets seem just so stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 19:55:36 GMT
I guess I really don't see the whole attraction of Twitter whatsoever. I'm all for FB and Instagram, but the whole Twitter thing just seems kind of dumb to me. Of course, part of it could be the fact that the co-worker that sits next to me sits there and announces when someone new follows him or re-tweets him and his tweets seem just so stupid.
Ann Twitter is what you make it. Depending on how you use it, and especially who you follow, it can be totally insipid and nothing more than mindless frippery, or it can be an educational tool, a networking tool, or a breaking news powerhouse. Plus a million other options and mixes of all those things. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 20:00:38 GMT
Twitter is a normal mode of communication in today's world. I have no issue with the president using Twitter, and I doubt you would, either, if the president were only Republican. About mocking foreign leaders ... if 98% of the population doesn't get the mockery without having it explained to them, it's pretty freakin' subtle, isn't it? Bibi Netanyahu has been very, and very publicly, disrespectful toward Pres. Obama. Rather than worrying that our leader is mocking him so subtly that hardly anyone even notices, I would think you'd take offense at the disrespect a foreign leader shows our president, especially one whom we send vast amounts of money and other forms of support to. Oh come on. Bibi wasn't hostile towards Obama until Obama was disdainful and dismissive of him, which pretty much started the day he took the oath of office. Obama, and his entire staff, are anti-Semites of the highest order. They haven't even tried to hide how much they dislike Israel. You have to be willfully blind to not see it. They whole heartedly support the destruction if Israel. I'm ashamed of how they have treated bibi and Israel over the last 6 years. Deeply ashamed. So I cheer anything bibi has to say about Obama at this point - he has the right and Obama deserves every bit of it. WTactualF. |
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Post by moveablefeast on Apr 9, 2015 20:02:00 GMT
I like twitter. I use it to follow people and organizations that are interested in what I'm interested in - kind of a current-awareness resource. It's better than Facebook for that. Facebook is friends and family, twitter is social and political trends. At least that's how I use it. I follow library advocacy groups, authors and publishers, leaders and pastors, and major media outlets that cover a wide range of stories.
I resisted a long time and am still pretty new but I look at my twitter feed a couple of times a day and try to post one interesting (to me) thing each day. I started because one of my professors told me to - but I like it. I like how it aggregates lots of sources into one place.
It's a communication tool that reaches lots of people. Why wouldn't the President use it?
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Post by moveablefeast on Apr 9, 2015 20:02:38 GMT
I guess I really don't see the whole attraction of Twitter whatsoever. I'm all for FB and Instagram, but the whole Twitter thing just seems kind of dumb to me. Of course, part of it could be the fact that the co-worker that sits next to me sits there and announces when someone new follows him or re-tweets him and his tweets seem just so stupid.
Ann Twitter is what you make it. Depending on how you use it, and especially who you follow, it can be totally insipid and nothing more than mindless frippery, or it can be an educational tool, a networking tool, or a breaking news powerhouse. Plus a million other options and mixes of all those things. I intend to use the phrase mindless frippery before day's end. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 20:04:50 GMT
Well if the Queen can use Twitter I can't see anything wrong in a person, virtually half her age, using it!
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Apr 9, 2015 20:19:09 GMT
Have you never heard the POTUS referred to as the leader of the free world before? Oh, of course I have heard it before Almost exclusively from Americans. Just because it has been widely used , it still does not make him the leader of 'the free world' and I find it slightly arrogant to call him that. You're being kind. The term is more than slightly arrogant, and increasingly so. Carrying the biggest stick doesn't make one the leader. (I also bristle at the term "free-est country in the world." There are close to 90 free countries. Nobody ever explains what exactly makes us the most free.) Same kind of hyperbolic and childlike thinking that results in statements like, "Obama and his entire staff are anti-Semites," and "Islam is evil." |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Apr 9, 2015 20:21:42 GMT
If our President was a circumspect about what he says and writes as your Queen is, I'd have no issues whatsoever. I have never heard or read of QEII being publicly snide, critical or dismissive of either the politicians in England or world leaders. She is class personified and is someone Obama could learn a lot from
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Post by Sam on Apr 9, 2015 20:26:14 GMT
If our President was a circumspect about what he says and writes as your Queen is, I'd have no issues whatsoever. I have never heard or read of QEII being publicly snide, critical or dismissive of either the politicians in England or world leaders. She is class personified and is someone Obama could learn a lot from I bet you could find one or two comments from our Government if you tried ever-so half heartedly!  |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Apr 9, 2015 20:27:38 GMT
By the Queen?
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Post by Sam on Apr 9, 2015 20:29:26 GMT
She's not an MP - and your President isn't a member of any Royal Family!  |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Apr 9, 2015 20:31:04 GMT
He's not?? He certainly thinks and acts like he is.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 20:42:41 GMT
If our President was a circumspect about what he says and writes as your Queen is, I'd have no issues whatsoever. I have never heard or read of QEII being publicly snide, critical or dismissive of either the politicians in England or world leaders. She is class personified and is someone Obama could learn a lot from He didn't even write that supposed "mocking" post. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 20:51:56 GMT
He's not?? He certainly thinks and acts like he is. Ah only in your mind and not in the real world Lauren.... |
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Apr 9, 2015 20:52:58 GMT
To me Twitter is the modern day version of writing on the bathroom wall. I think the concept is stupid and self indulgent and have no use for it. I don't know why grown men & women would waste time with it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 20:53:54 GMT
To me Twitter is the modern day version of writing on the bathroom wall. I think the concept is stupid and self indulgent and have no use for it. I don't know why grown men & women would waste time with it. It's great to so thoroughly judge something when you clearly haven't used it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 20:55:25 GMT
Leader of the free world?Do you consider The United States to be the only place in the world that is 'free'? Because that is the only part of the world he is the leader of. As a citizen of a country that I consider very free, I find it slightly arrogant to refer to YOUR leader as the leader of all of us. Because he is not Posting on Twitter being childish? It's the same comments he would make anyway, just a new format to do so in. Maybe people considered it childish when politicians first started to appear on TV...? From Wikipedia: "The "Leader of the Free World" is a colloquialism, first used during the Cold War, to describe either the United States or, more commonly, the President of the United States. The term when used in this context suggests that the United States is the principal democratic superpower, and the U.S. President is by extension the leader of the world's democratic states, i.e. the "Free World". The phrase had its origin in the late 1940s, and has become more widely used since the early 1950s. It was heavily referenced in American foreign policy up until the dissolution of the Soviet Union in December 1991, and has since fallen out of use, in part due to its usage in anti-American rhetoric.[6]" ETA: Didn't read all the way through before commenting. |
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Apr 9, 2015 20:59:22 GMT
To me Twitter is the modern day version of writing on the bathroom wall. I think the concept is stupid and self indulgent and have no use for it. I don't know why grown men & women would waste time with it. It's great to so thoroughly judge something when you clearly haven't used it. I have checked it out and have seen a number of threads over time where someone tweets something stupid and loses their reputation, their job, gets death threats. Whatever, I waste enough time on here. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 21:02:57 GMT
It's great to so thoroughly judge something when you clearly haven't used it. I have checked it out and have seen a number of threads over time where someone tweets something stupid and loses their reputation, their job, gets death threats. Whatever, I waste enough time on here. That is one tiny facet of Twitter and one you can completely avoid if you wish. Twitter is, bar none, the best source for news now. And it's got a ton of other extremely beneficial uses that have nothing to do with what you seem to think it's all about. It's fine that it's not for you, but your assessment of what it is based on such limited information as to be meaningless. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 9, 2015 21:08:24 GMT
I don't use Twitter, but it's basically micro-blogging, with a 140 character limitation, correct? so how people choose to use it is totally on them.
(and Lauren still didn't say cite the actual tweet she was referring to in the original post.)
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Apr 9, 2015 21:12:01 GMT
I don't use Twitter, but it's basically micro-blogging, with a 140 character limitation, correct? so how people choose to use it is totally on them. ITA - and much of the information is Misinformation but you can get the same watching the news. No one fact checks anymore. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 21:13:23 GMT
As to subject at hand - I don't find it childish to use it, it's the way of the world. But when the office of the POTUS uses it in a way that can be seen as mocking or rude, then yes, I have a problem with that. Once you take that oath, you are no longer a democrat or a republican, you are the president of all the people and you should be above the petty politics of division. Unfortunately, that is the only thing that Obama is good at - politics of division. Know what I find really childish? Using the Easter prayer breakfast to chastise Christians, especially when you yourself held the exact same belief just a couple short years ago. All while refusing to chastise Muslims for the holocaust being committed against Christians and moderate Muslims in the Middle East. Yes, it's a bit disturbing. |
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Post by janet on Apr 9, 2015 21:13:27 GMT
to mock foreign leaders or to promote his policies? I'm mean, really? Your the supposed leader of the free world and you think it's appropriate to communicate by twitter? As long as he can use your and you're properly, I have no issue. |
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Post by anonrefugee on Apr 9, 2015 21:22:42 GMT
If the President, any President, was pulling his phone out of his pocket to post to social media I might question his maturity. I have my own teens to monitor for that. But I expect his Tweets come from the White House press office.
If he did NOT tweet I would find it odd, and consider his administration out of touch.
Snarky or rude comments are not needed.
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Post by disneypal on Apr 9, 2015 21:23:12 GMT
I don't see a problem with him using Twitter - that is just a sign of the times. However, mocking other leaders or mocking anyone for that matter is childish
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 21:38:29 GMT
no more than it is for a middle aged lawyer to obsess over an actor and post on a scrapbooking message board |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 21:46:37 GMT
no more than it is for a middle aged lawyer to obsess over an actor and post on a scrapbooking message board She isn't doing it in the context of her job, though. |
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Post by nicole2112 on Apr 9, 2015 21:48:20 GMT
I get all my news from Facebook & Twitter so I think it's great that he's active on social media. Hold on to your hat because the White House even has a Snapchat.  Edited to say that I get my news from reliable news sources that have social media accounts on various platforms of social media. Not Betsy Lou who has a twitter and thinks she's the BBC. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 21:52:11 GMT
As to subject at hand - I don't find it childish to use it, it's the way of the world. But when the office of the POTUS uses it in a way that can be seen as mocking or rude, then yes, I have a problem with that. Once you take that oath, you are no longer a democrat or a republican, you are the president of all the people and you should be above the petty politics of division. Unfortunately, that is the only thing that Obama is good at - politics of division. Know what I find really childish? Using the Easter prayer breakfast to chastise Christians, especially when you yourself held the exact same belief just a couple short years ago. All while refusing to chastise Muslims for the holocaust being committed against Christians and moderate Muslims in the Middle East. Yes, it's a bit disturbing. We interrupt this version of bashing The President with the following. If one is going to criticize comments made by the President at least one can do is post the offending comment. Since as usual lynlam did a hit and run so to speak I looked it up. It is: "On Easter, as I do reflect on the fact that as a Christian, I am suppose to love. And I have to say that sometimes when I listen to less than loving expressions by Christians I get concerned." Based on comments made on a couple of recent threads I do believe he may have a point. Now back to the reqularly scheduled programming of bashing the President because he is on Twitter. |
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