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Post by Merge on Jun 14, 2016 13:38:14 GMT
I was also raised to believe that sex outside of marriage is a sin - a mortal sin. Regardless of orientation. I'm 43 and grew up in the Midwest. I didn't know anyone who was openly gay until I went to grad school in 1994, though several people from my high school and undergrad years have since come out. I imagine they would have been shunned if they had come out in those places and times.
I am not religious now and my kids have been raised to see no difference. Both of them have gay and bi friends, and these are accepted in their peer groups like every other student.
I will say that my parents, for all their devout religious views and conservatism, believed very strongly that we are all children of God, and that everyone should be treated with kindness and respect.
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Post by kellybelly77 on Jun 14, 2016 13:39:35 GMT
Totally normal. My mom and dad were not and still not religious people. We never went to church which is probably why I align with atheism today. DH and I are raising our kids the same way. No religious influence and people are just people and deserve to be treated equally no matter who they love or who they are.
One of my best friends from middle/high school is gay and he came out in 9th grade. It honestly boggles my mind that some people want to tell others who they can and can't marry.
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Post by mellowyellow on Jun 14, 2016 13:42:19 GMT
I was raised by a Southern Baptist deacon so you can imagine what was the opinion in our house. I was born in 1970 and raised in a very small town. I am no longer affiliated with that church or any church for that matter and I absolutely do not feel the way I was raised. Some of my dearest friends are gay and I love them to pieces!
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Post by Monica* on Jun 14, 2016 13:43:24 GMT
I was raised Catholic and lived in liberal Southern California. In particular, Santa Monica Canyon. There is a small gay community at the foot of the canyon near the beach. I recall walking to the beach as a kid and walking past the SS Friendship right off PCH. It was a gay bar that looked like it had the front of a ship sticking out. I remember peeking in as I walked by, more out of childhood curiosity than anything. I wonder if it is still there. Anyway, I always knew gay people existed, but don't recall my parents denouncing them. I do remember being taught in Catholic school that sex out of marriage was a sin. But I grew up to form my own liberal views on sexual orientation, choice, etc. I guess you would call me a cafeteria Catholic. I have raised my kids with these same liberal views. I have been very outspoken with them in my support for the LGBT community.
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Post by Karmady on Jun 14, 2016 13:43:31 GMT
My father passed away 20 years ago and he strongly believed in marriage between a man and woman. I think his opinion would be different now. My mother changed her opinion over time to "live and let live". For the most part in Canada, gay marriage has been around for a decade and no one bats an eye. We have new neighbours on our suburban court and they are a male gay couple. They invited all the neighbours over on the weekend for a BBQ and just about everyone showed up to meet them and mingle (even the old people ). The only ones who did not show up were the uber Salvation Army people next door who judge everyone
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Post by raindancer on Jun 14, 2016 13:43:57 GMT
I was raised Mormon. They to this day believe they are sinners and can marry away the gay.
No, I no longer believe that, because science.
The same reason I don't believe anything religious or super natural at all.
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Post by Mystie on Jun 14, 2016 13:49:12 GMT
I had no clue there was/could be such a thing as a gay couple. I was really sheltered, didn't know any gay people, never really discussed homosexuality with my parents. I was raised very religious, but I honestly don't remember ever really hearing anything about homosexuality, good or bad. (I do remember being told masturbation was a sin by a zealous youth pastor, however. ) Right after high school, I became close friends with a guy who wrestled for a couple of years before coming out, and I made other gay friends in college, most of whom were not out yet. If they'd been in couples at the time, it wouldn't have fazed me. I never felt like they were sinners; I have never believed that homosexuality was a sin, no matter what the Christian establishment says. I'm watching my own denomination literally fall apart over this issue, and I think it's ridiculous and shameful. ETA: anxiousmom : I do think my age has something to do with it--I'm 45, and people were not coming out of the closet in the 70s and 80s--not in rural Ohio, anyway! Literally my only exposure to the idea of homosexuality was from TV...like Billy Crystal's character on Soap and such. Oh, and the AIDS coverage on the news, of course. Save
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Post by peano on Jun 14, 2016 13:55:01 GMT
I'm 57 and grew up in the South, in a conservative town, but we were Jews. So my upbringing was radically more liberal than that of many of my friends, and focus on sin was something we left to the Christians.
I don't remember speaking about homosexuality one way or another in my family and I wasn't aware of any gay couples. My mother was very involved in an organization promoting education and services to developmentally delayed children and their primary fundraiser was to put on a annual theatrical variety show production, for which they imported a director from NYC who was invariably gay. (Of course, at this time, it was covert, not overt). Over the years we often had the directors over for dinner. I guess the general sentiment in my family was "Yeah, he's a little different" but it wasn't looked at as a bad thing.
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Post by annabella on Jun 14, 2016 13:57:37 GMT
It was never discussed so I guess it was a non-issue.
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Jun 14, 2016 14:01:06 GMT
Growing up, it wasn't something really talked about or made an issue of. I don't really recall it being a thing until much later as an adult.
In our house, we have 2 kids (14 and almost 12). We have open conversations about it. I have tried to let my kids know that whether or not you agree with the gay lifestyle, it doesn't mean you hate or dislike them. I have also spoke with (especially my son) about being careful what you say if you disagree with it. He is going into high school and our daughter is in middle school. Just recently we had a conversation about this and that at this age, those that are discovering they are gay or trans, are most likely having a hard time accepting it or going about making it known. We need to be accepting and compassionate.
This may not be coming across the way I want it to. I hope it does though.
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Post by auntkelly on Jun 14, 2016 14:06:43 GMT
I was born in 1960 and grew up in a little town in Oklahoma. I was raised in a Southern Baptist. We were taught that homosexuality was wrong, but it wasn't talked about much. Pre-marital sex was talked about much more than homosexuality was ever discussed. We certainly were not taught to hate gay people.
If I had asked, I'm quite sure just about any adult in my community, regardless of their religion or lack thereof, would have said that homosexuality was wrong, or at the very least, odd. I think that was the common belief at that time in the entire U.S.
I'm sure there were thugs in my community who harassed people they suspected were gay, but I never heard about it. The vast majority of people in my community had a "live and let live" attitude. It just wasn't polite to go sticking your nose in other people's business. I'm sure it was extremely difficult for gay people to live their lives in the closet, but it made it easy for straight people, especially religious people to ignore the issue.
It seems to me that it wasn't until the late 70s/early 80s that people really began to discuss homosexuality and the nation became really polarized about the issue. My beliefs on the topic certainly have evolved.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 14:08:47 GMT
I wasn't taught one way or the other.
My aunt is gay. When I was young, her partner was her "roommate." They split up when I was 8 or so? The next girlfriend is the one I remember the best and when I understood that she wasn't just a roommate, but her partner. We did Christmas at her place for the longest time. Even though they had split shortly before her partner was diagnosed with stomach cancer, all of us supported her through her final days and my aunt took care of her at home where she later died. We attended her funeral. My Dad called my aunt's former partner his little sister. (my Dad is the oldest of the three) After the Supreme Court ruling, my aunt and her current partner married. My aunt is 60 and finally got married, legally, for the first time in MI. She and her previous partner had traveled to states that recognized gay marriage long before the Supreme Court did and got married.
I always knew my Dad and aunt's parents didn't agree with the gay lifestyle and my aunt didn't come out of the closet until the early 80's (hence, the first partner I knew of being a "roommate"). I recently found out my Mom didn't like it and, for the longest time, would not leave me and my sister alone with her. My Mom's parents were very conservative and were taught it is wrong. I want to say she's much more accepting now, but I don't think so. She still has negative things to say about gay people as well as black and Hispanic people. She recently made a remark against Muslims too so I don't think she's as open-minded as she tries to claim she is. Despite that, my parents never specifically told us it was wrong. I always just took it as that's just the way it is, that they are born that way just like we are born a certain color, with certain hair color, eye color, etc.
I have a cousin on my Mom's side that I suspect is gay. However, her parents (Mom's brother) are Mormon and have raised their kids to be devout Mormons. At least three of my cousins's kids have gone on missions and two others are prepping for one. The one cousin has never married and I have never heard of her having a boyfriend of any kind while the rest of her siblings all have gotten married and have two or three kids each. She's in her mid-40's. I know my aunt and uncle did not acknowledge my Dad's sister much and I remember them sitting as far away as possible from her and her partner at my first wedding. I wonder if she ever came out, would her family disown her? One of her sisters has a daughter who is dating a non-Mormon and she's upset that he's not Mormon.
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Post by ntsf on Jun 14, 2016 14:09:48 GMT
I don't think it was talked about much..grew up in the 1950's..but the other day my dad said that he had an employee (govt organization) transition to female in the mid 1970s he said no one seemed to care..he certainly didn't.. as long as she did her work. my parents had friends of all types..he made it a point to go over and welcome the first black family in our neighborhood.. and they grew up in multiethnic neighborhoods. all were to be tolerate and loved...as we are christians and that is what you do. we are white..and friends were asian, hispanic, black, disabled.. whoever.
my parents never changed in that respect. dad is 90 now.
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Post by freebird on Jun 14, 2016 14:10:38 GMT
I was raised by conservatives who were not highly educated (but really hard workers). I don't remember anyone saying anything about gay people ever.
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Post by winniegirl on Jun 14, 2016 14:13:00 GMT
I'm mid 60s, born and raised in the South. It was always a non-issue in our household; there are lots of LGBT in our family and my immediate family is very liberal. In particular, I have three cousins 2 brothers 1 sister ( among many others) and all are gay.
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Post by katlady on Jun 14, 2016 14:15:46 GMT
I am an older pea, and I grew up in a non-religious household so gay marriage was something that never came up. And as someone else already mentioned, it was not until AIDS became known in the 80's did homosexuality really start coming up in my everyday life. There was a gay couple that lived a few houses down from me when I was growing up. I never heard anyone talk bad about them.
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Post by katybee on Jun 14, 2016 14:22:24 GMT
I've mentioned before that my dad was a very conservative right winger, and was never shy about expressing his beliefs. Growing up, we didn't really know anyone who was gay, but I never heard my dad refer to it as a "sin." He did, however, like most people we knew, kind of make fun of gay people. Not to their faces, but he used stereotypical gay "humor", called people gay as an insult, etc. Although it would be considered very politically incorrect ( and WRONG) now, it was the norm back then in the 80's.
When I was in college, one of my cousin's came out. He got a boyfriend and started bringing him to family functions, I was away at school, so I missed all of this. I came home for another cousin's wedding, and was prepared to defend my cousin's choices and stand up to my dad--because I just knew he was going to be a bigoted jerk about the whole thing. Well, he wasn't. At all. I was amazed to see my dad treat my cousin and his boyfriend like any other member of the family-- easy, casual, joking around. I completely misjudged my dad. Not long after, his best friend's daughter came out as a lesbian. Again-- he had no issues. Said she was the same person.
So short answer -- I was never taught it was a sin. It was "weird" when I didn't know any gay people and when society thought it was weird. It became less weird and then eventually a normal part of life over time.
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Post by tenacious on Jun 14, 2016 14:22:25 GMT
I grew up in The Bay Area in the 70's in a Mormon family and it was not discussed at all. People were people. My second grade teacher was a gay man, and I loved him dearly and was never taught to judge him differently in any way.
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Post by bratkar on Jun 14, 2016 14:33:12 GMT
I'm 46 grew up in NE Ohio also, and in the 70's I remember my mother having a very dear friend who owned a florist shop in the rich part of town and I remember mom, mentioning he was gay. He was the most fun friend I remember my mother having. (and man could he design!) It was never a big deal in our house and I've always had plenty of friends that were/are. None of them have made a big to do about it and been in your face about it, it was just a statement of fact. Lately though, I've meet quite a few people who are very loud and proud about it and make sure everyone knows that they are and I don't understand that change..(but that's for another subject) Now, my husband on the other hand, it took quite a few years for him to be accepting of any of my friends that were, now he's pretty cool with most of them.
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Post by myboysnme on Jun 14, 2016 14:36:59 GMT
I don't think it was ever discussed or commented on. I'm sure my parents did not think it was ok, so to speak but they never said.
My father's brother was in the closet his whole life, but I lived with him for a time and I know the truth.
I recall being young and in the military that I met people who were attracted to same sex and I just figured that's them not me.
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Post by peasapie on Jun 14, 2016 14:39:05 GMT
We didn't know anyone who was openly gay, and my dad occasionally made fun of gay men. :-(
My parents were very strict. They didn't approve of interracial dating, childbirth outside of marriage, or even living together before marriage. I'm certain that a gay relationship would have been shameful and embarrassing in their eyes.
Correction: I just remembered that my cousin was gay. When my parents found out, they made (not funny) jokes about it.
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Post by jenis40 on Jun 14, 2016 14:40:26 GMT
I'm in my early 40's and was raised in rural Montana. It didn't come up a lot in our household because there weren't any gay people that we knew or were exposed to on television, movies etc. However, I was raised knowing that it was "wrong" because it was "different". While I wouldn't say my parents are totally accepting now, they would accept a gay family member without much fuss and at least my mom is ok with gay marriage. The biggest thing I hear is "Why does it have to be in our face all the time? I don't want to see two men kissing on TV." To be fair they don't want to see anyone kissing on TV. They are very prudish and I was raised with a "anything sexual is to be kept behind closed doors" attitude.
I wouldn't say I was ever anti-gay but I did have the "it's different so it's wrong" thoughts until my mid to late 20's. Today I'm fully supportive of the LGBT community. I still don't have a ton of exposure to it (I guess I don't attract gay friends). However rural Montana does not have a huge gay community so it's still a little backward in its thinking. They are big on "you do you" so everyone would be welcoming to them but some would be privately teaching their kids that we don't believe in the gay "lifestyle".
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 14, 2016 14:45:08 GMT
I don't remember it ever being addressed one way or the other when I was growing up
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Post by disneypal on Jun 14, 2016 14:45:28 GMT
When I was growing up, it wasn't really a subject that was in the fore-front. No one really talked about gay couples back then. The first time I even heard or knew what the word "gay" meant was when the TV show Soap first aired and everyone was all up in arms about its adult content and "gay" character. I think I was about 14 at the time.
I really didn't hear much about gay couples until I was in my 20s and started going to nightclubs where I met some gay people (and became friends with some people that I am still friends with today).
So to answer the question "Were you raised believing that gay couples are normal or not" - I would have to say "neither" - it just simply wasn't talked about.
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Post by Belle on Jun 14, 2016 14:49:26 GMT
It wasn't unusual for my parents to have gay coworkers and some of those coworkers ended up being life long friends. I wasn't raised in a very religious home so I wasn't ever taught it was wrong or a sin. In elementary school, my principal was a lesbian and her partner was my 6th grade teacher then in middle school I had a gay math teacher. I guess I would fall into the "non-issue" category.
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Post by Zee on Jun 14, 2016 14:50:14 GMT
Interesting post. I've never heard my mom say anything about gay people at all, now that I think about it, either pro or con.
My dad was born in 1950 and like many men his age considered that behavior completely unmanly and something to ridicule. I remember him making fun of anyone he considered "light in the loafers", but he never went on about it being a sin. And I don't mean he was calling people out on the street, just making cracks about it in private. We weren't a religious household and didn't discuss sin really, only really bad things like stealing or lying, etc.
In the last decade he's really become a lot more understanding. I think understanding and tolerance has come a long, long way since I was a kid.
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Post by sphmaz on Jun 14, 2016 14:50:41 GMT
It was never really talked about in our family. The first gay person I met was my sisters BFF. He was welcomed into our family like one of our own. Still feel the same way today.
DH was brought up to believe it was sinful (very religious parents). Imagine having both of his sisters come out. Not sure that my in-laws changed their stance but they didn't dis-own their daughters either. DH has come a long way; he used to be very uncomfortable around my sisters BFF, he couldn't really explain why. I imagine from his upbringing. Today he has a few close friends that are openly gay and he's perfectly fine with it.
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Post by cmpeter on Jun 14, 2016 14:53:16 GMT
I don't ever remember it being a topic of conversation. We had family friends who were gay or lesbian. Their sexuality was never discussed though, no one's was.
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Post by milocat on Jun 14, 2016 14:55:03 GMT
I don't know what they thought either way. They never said anything and no one in our circle was gay so I didn't see their reaction first hand. They are accepting now. I grew up (still live) in a small rural conservative area. I can remember asking don't So and So have another son? Yeah. Where is he? Oh 'names a big city'. Doesn't he ever come home. Ummm... he's gay. So? Well his family wasn't so accepting. Those family's have all come around now though. The 90s and earlier no one ever came out until they graduated and left this small town. Who wants to be the one gay person or teen in the whole area? I would say the people of area that weren't comfortable with gay people would have never done anything directly cruel to them. I'm sure they would have talked to their homophobic friends and called them names and then would have said hello to the gay person when they saw them on the street.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jun 14, 2016 14:56:21 GMT
I don't really remember being directed one way or the other. Neither do I. It just wasn't something that was talked about much. We don't have any gay family members so it wasn't really on my radar much as a young person. About the extent I can remember my mom talking about gay people was her saying "I don't care what people do, I just don't want to see it." I rolled my eyes at her and have always held my live and let live view point. Save
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