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Post by BeckyTech on Jul 23, 2016 15:23:14 GMT
My comment: Something like 20,000 e-mails were released/leaked. I expect there will be a lot more to come than just this:
New Leak: Top DNC Official Wanted to Use Bernie Sanders’s Religious Beliefs Against Him Among the nearly 20,000 internal emails from the Democratic National Committee, released Friday by Wikileaks and presumably provided by the hacker “Guccifer 2.0,” is a May 2016 message from DNC CFO Brad Marshall. In it, he suggested that the party should “get someone to ask” Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders about his religious beliefs.
The email was sent to DNC Communications Director Luis Miranda and Deputy Communications Director Mark Paustenbach. It’s unclear who the “someone” in this message could be — though a member of the press seems like a safe bet. A request for comment sent to Marshall was not immediately returned.
[UPDATE at 1:03 p.m. ET: Marshall emails to say “I do not recall this. I can say it would not have been Sanders. It would probably be about a surrogate.” We have asked him who that surrogate could possibly be.]
And although Sanders is not mentioned by name, he was the only Jewish candidate from either party — an apparent weakness that Marshall believed the party could exploit in favor of Hillary Clinton.
It is also unclear why the Democratic National Committee, which isn’t supposed to favor one Democratic candidate over another until they receive a nomination, would have attempted to subvert the Sanders campaign on the grounds that “he is an atheist.”
A reply to Marshall’s email from DNC CEO Amy Dacey read only “AMEN.”
[UPDATE at 5:10 p.m. ET: In a private message, the hacker “Guccifer 2.0” confirmed he provided the email trove to Wikileaks, saying “Yeah man, as I promised.”]
--- More 7/24
~The DNC was directly involved in several protests at Trump events, especially sending interns to attend so the photos would look good.
~Debbie Wasserman Schultz is going to open and close, but won’t be allowed to speak at her own convention!
--- More 7/25 (I didn't write the summaries)
DNC member killing horses for insurance money.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/578
DNC making fun of black woman’s name.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17942
DNC telling each other, “I love you too. no homo.”
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/425
DNC requesting a pull an MSNBC commentary segment.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6107
DNC controlling the narrative with time released stories.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12450
DNC conspiring to create false Trump information and release with Reuters.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102
DNC Hillary supporters infiltrated Sanders campaign.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776
DNC members going to complain to Morning Joe producers about his mentioning of a “rigged system.”
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8806
DNC discussing their relationship with NBC/MSNBC/CNN and how to get better treatment.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13762
Super PAC paying young voters to push back online Sanders supporters. Paid shills.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351
DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz having an off the record meeting in MSNBC President Phil Griffin’s office.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8867
DNC being messed with by the Washington Examiner.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5304
DNC discussing Hillary’s policies as unfeasible.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/519
$200k for a private dinner with Hillary.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17287
Faking outrage and pasting in a video later.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102
A mole working inside of the Sanders campaign.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7793
Possible money laundering by moving money back and forth to bypass legal limits.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6230
Politico writer sending his stories to the DNC before he sends them to his editor.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808
DNC feeding CNN the questions they want to be asked in interviews.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4077
Creating a fake job ad for a Trump business to paint him as a sexist.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803
Hillary funding 2 million dollars in a coordinated campaign in battleground states to win back the Senate.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7784
DNC is upset that their “allies” didn’t send in protestors so they sent out interns.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13366
“Clinton Foundation quid-pro-quo worries are lingering, will be exploited in general.”
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351
$50,000 – Lawrence Benenson.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/14700
Content & Social Strategy Discussion.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7512
Re: BuzzFeed and DNC connection.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10933
Draft linking news articles about trump to use as negative press.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7586
Fwd: State Dinner Countdown.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1901
Someone is angry she hasn’t been given more stuff from the Obama administration…might be interesting to follow up.
Re: State Dinner Countdown.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/2946
Press talking points, states Hillary is their candidate, dated May 5, 2016. More of a smoking gun than the ambiguous talk in the emails themselves.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/5254/2728
Consultant calling megyn kelly a bimbo. Has PDF attached that says the same.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6087
DNC trying to get away with violating the Hatch Act.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20148
Democrats using interns to organize fake “protests.”
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13830
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 15:44:04 GMT
Well, that's not good. Gives credence to the claims of a rigged system.
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Post by suzastampin on Jul 23, 2016 15:52:51 GMT
Add in the fact that early on, can't remember which states, were decided by a flip of the coin. Hillary was awarded all 6 coin flips. If that's the case, she should play the lottery and Bernie would do best by keeping all of his money in his pocket, rather than playing the lottery.
What are the chances?
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 23, 2016 15:59:45 GMT
The subject is "no shit"?
I don't like it if it is trying to undermine bernie.
What kind of dumbasses do this shit by email? It just seems sloppy to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 16:14:37 GMT
The subject is "no shit"? I don't like it if it is trying to undermine bernie. What kind of dumbasses do this shit by email? It just seems sloppy to me. The kind of dumbass whose party leader used a private server inappropriately, deleted thousands of emails, and paid no price for it. |
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 23, 2016 16:20:09 GMT
The subject is "no shit"? I don't like it if it is trying to undermine bernie. What kind of dumbasses do this shit by email? It just seems sloppy to me. The kind of dumbass whose party leader used a private server inappropriately, deleted thousands of emails, and paid no price for it. well that was stupid and sloppy too. For the record, I do think she has paid a small price. Much of the American public does not find her trustworthy. Quite a few questions her decision making. If she loses this election, this will be one of the reasons why |
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 23, 2016 16:21:32 GMT
I'd love to see some RNC emails. I can't even imagine what those are like.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 23, 2016 16:25:08 GMT
I'd love to see some RNC emails. I can't even imagine what those are like. got to get a Democrat who not only is willing to do illegal hacking, but also has low enough scruples to leak them |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 16:26:15 GMT
I'd love to see some RNC emails. I can't even imagine what those are like. I'm sure they're pretty much the same, since the establishment doesn't like Trump any more than they do Bernie. But they'd be anti-climactic now that Trump has secured the nomination. Hillary's shaky alliance with Bernie and his supporters might be in jeopardy, though. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 23, 2016 16:31:12 GMT
I'd love to see some RNC emails. I can't even imagine what those are like. I'm sure they're pretty much the same, since the establishment doesn't like Trump any more than they do Bernie. But they'd be anti-climactic now that Trump has secured the nomination. Hillary's shaky alliance with Bernie and his supporters might be in jeopardy, though. I think it's all anti-climactic. Oh, the DNC wanted Hillary to be the nominee? And? You think the RNC didn't have their preferences? Please. I can't even imagine the teeth gnashing emails that got sent around the RNC about Trump. SaveSave |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 16:40:25 GMT
I'm sure they're pretty much the same, since the establishment doesn't like Trump any more than they do Bernie. But they'd be anti-climactic now that Trump has secured the nomination. Hillary's shaky alliance with Bernie and his supporters might be in jeopardy, though. I think it's all anti-climactic. Oh, the DNC wanted Hillary to be the nominee? And? You think the RNC didn't have their preferences? Please. I can't even imagine the teeth gnashing emails that got sent around the RNC about Trump. SaveSaveOh, I absolutely do think the RNC had their preferences, and I agree about the probable similarities between their emails and the DNC's. Because the establishment doesn't like Trump. They don't like Bernie, either. Neither was controlled by the party, and of course, the parties don't like that. But Trump got the nomination. Even if emails were revealed that indicated the RNC tried to sabotage him, it won't change the fact that his supporters are going to vote for him in November. Hillary's got a problem, though. Because Bernie supporters might see this as further proof she doesn't deserve their vote. If they jump ship and vote third party or not at all, she could be facing an uphill battle against Trump. I suspect there's a lot of behind the scenes dealing going on right now to limit the possible damage. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 16:41:41 GMT
What an insult to those of us that didn't vote for Bernie. That we were not able to make our decision based on Sander's agenda but needed the "dirty" tricks that the DNC may or may have not done for us to decide that we didn't want Sanders as the Democratic nominee.
Sanders lost because the majority of Democrats didn't want him to be the nominee.
And for those who think the system was somehow rigged against Sanders or the DNC plotted against Sanders and that is why he lost I would like to remind them that:
1. The rules for Democratic primaries were in place long before Sanders decided to become a Democrat to use the Democratic political machine to run for president. And if there was confusion of what needed to be done to vote that is on the Sanders Campaign for not educating their supporters what needed to be done to vote or on the supporters themselves for not finding out what needed to be done.
2. And in spite Sanders whining about super delegates he still lost by 3+ million votes. So in the end the super delegates went with the candidate who had the most votes and had from the very beginning.
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Post by beebee on Jul 23, 2016 16:43:28 GMT
There was never even a chance that Hillary would lose. It will be interesting to see how Bernie handles it.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 23, 2016 16:45:14 GMT
I think it's all anti-climactic. Oh, the DNC wanted Hillary to be the nominee? And? You think the RNC didn't have their preferences? Please. I can't even imagine the teeth gnashing emails that got sent around the RNC about Trump. SaveSaveOh, I absolutely do think the RNC had their preferences, and I agree about the probable similarities between their emails and the DNC's. Because the establishment doesn't like Trump. They don't like Bernie, either. Neither was controlled by the party, and of course, the parties don't like that. But Trump got the nomination. Even if emails were revealed that indicated the RNC tried to sabotage him, it won't change the fact that his supporters are going to vote for him in November. Hillary's got a problem, though. Because Bernie supporters might see this as further proof she doesn't deserve their vote. If they jump ship and vote third party or not at all, she could be facing an uphill battle against Trump. I suspect there's a lot of behind the scenes dealing going on right now to limit the possible damage. I don't know. I think there's a lot of Bernie-or-Bust people out there who would just vote third party anyway. Which is, in my opinion, a total wrong move in this election. First of all, the system is too broken and too rigged to elect a third-party candidate RIGHT NOW, and you're not going to fix that with this election. That's going to take more third party candidates in local and state elections first to build credibility and a base. Now, when we are faced with possibly electing one of the most terrible humans to walk the planet, NOW is not the time to grow a "conscience" and claim that you can't vote for a "liar." Fuck. They're ALL liars. Ya basta with that. Just vote for the person who isn't the most racist, misogynist, narcissist, self-serving bag of vomited Cheetos. |
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Post by BeckyTech on Jul 23, 2016 16:54:20 GMT
Well, that's not good. Gives credence to the claims of a rigged system. Worse yet, it reveals some ugly hatred:
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Post by beebee on Jul 23, 2016 16:58:54 GMT
What an insult to those of us that didn't vote for Bernie. That we were not able to make our decision based on Sander's agenda but needed the "dirty" tricks that the DNC may or may have not done for us to decide that we didn't want Sanders as the Democratic nominee. Sanders lost because the majority of Democrats didn't want him to be the nominee. And for those who think the system was somehow rigged against Sanders or the DNC plotted against Sanders and that is why he lost I would like to remind them that: 1. The rules for Democratic primaries were in place long before Sanders decided to become a Democrat to use the Democratic political machine to run for president. And if there was confusion of what needed to be done to vote that is on the Sanders Campaign for not educating their supporters what needed to be done to vote or on the supporters themselves for not finding out what needed to be done. 2. And in spite Sanders whining about super delegates he still lost by 3+ million votes. So in the end the super delegates went with the candidate who had the most votes and had from the very beginning. But the point is that a lot of people WOULD be swayed by the underhanded tactics. Maybe not you, but many would. Obviously the DNC knew this. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 16:59:02 GMT
I don't know. I think there's a lot of Bernie-or-Bust people out there who would just vote third party anyway. Possibly. I think a lot will depend on Bernie's response to this. If he cries foul, that could complicate things. Which is what makes me think there's some scrambling going on right now to keep him in line. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 23, 2016 16:59:44 GMT
Well, that's not good. Gives credence to the claims of a rigged system. Worse yet, it reveals some ugly hatred:
Agreed. It's gross. Again, I can't imagine what RNC emails look like. I wish Guccifer would get all up in some RNC email. Hey, if it's good for the goose... |
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Post by lucillebluth on Jul 23, 2016 17:06:54 GMT
Well, that's not good. Gives credence to the claims of a rigged system. Worse yet, it reveals some ugly hatred:
Surveys continue to find that many Americans wouldn't vote for an atheist. These staffers aren't hating on atheists, they're just aware of the reality. |
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Post by jayfab on Jul 23, 2016 17:11:21 GMT
Worse yet, it reveals some ugly hatred:
Surveys continue to find that many Americans wouldn't vote for an atheist. These staffers aren't hating on atheists, they're just aware of the reality. Good point. |
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Jul 23, 2016 17:11:48 GMT
This isn't the first time Hillary or her team have used religion to discredit a candidate. During the 2008 campaign in addressing allegations that Obama was Muslim in an interview with Steve Croft and she said "no, there is nothing to base that on, as far as I know".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 17:26:01 GMT
What an insult to those of us that didn't vote for Bernie. That we were not able to make our decision based on Sander's agenda but needed the "dirty" tricks that the DNC may or may have not done for us to decide that we didn't want Sanders as the Democratic nominee. Sanders lost because the majority of Democrats didn't want him to be the nominee. And for those who think the system was somehow rigged against Sanders or the DNC plotted against Sanders and that is why he lost I would like to remind them that: 1. The rules for Democratic primaries were in place long before Sanders decided to become a Democrat to use the Democratic political machine to run for president. And if there was confusion of what needed to be done to vote that is on the Sanders Campaign for not educating their supporters what needed to be done to vote or on the supporters themselves for not finding out what needed to be done. 2. And in spite Sanders whining about super delegates he still lost by 3+ million votes. So in the end the super delegates went with the candidate who had the most votes and had from the very beginning. But the point is that a lot of people WOULD be swayed by the underhanded tactics. Maybe not you, but many would. Obviously the DNC knew this. What does that say about the people who vote then. Not very flattering. If the voters are that stupid maybe we deserve the mess we find ourself in. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 17:27:43 GMT
Which is, in my opinion, a total wrong move in this election. First of all, the system is too broken and too rigged to elect a third-party candidate RIGHT NOW, and you're not going to fix that with this election. Unfortunately I've been hoping since 1992 when I cast a 3rd party vote. While I didn't necessarily love Perot (well, I did before he slipped and showed his crazy), I had hoped that a good 3rd party showing would pave the road for a true multi-party system down the road. Unfortunately, I'm beginning to believe that we will never see that. If there is ever a year that a 3rd party SHOULD have a good chance, it should be this year. And yet, everyone (including myself this time around) is afraid that it will hand the election to the other side. Sigh. I had similar hopes for the common use of solar power by this time after I saw the "home of the future" at the 1982 World's Fair. And yet, here we are hardly scratching the surface of that also. |
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Post by happymomma on Jul 23, 2016 17:32:08 GMT
I don't know. I think there's a lot of Bernie-or-Bust people out there who would just vote third party anyway. Possibly. I think a lot will depend on Bernie's response to this. If he cries foul, that could complicate things. Which is what makes me think there's some scrambling going on right now to keep him in line.  "Oh for crying out loud. Now I have to go have another secret meeting." |
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Post by jumperhop on Jul 23, 2016 17:37:04 GMT
The subject is "no shit"? I don't like it if it is trying to undermine bernie. What kind of dumbasses do this shit by email? It just seems sloppy to me. The kind of dumbass whose party leader used a private server inappropriately, deleted thousands of emails, and paid no price for it. I have decided to write in BF name come November. Jen |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 17:39:31 GMT
The kind of dumbass whose party leader used a private server inappropriately, deleted thousands of emails, and paid no price for it. I have decided to write in BF name come November. Jen Oh hell no. I would never pass the background check. There's not a shovel large enough for the shit they could dig up on me. |
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Post by withapea on Jul 23, 2016 17:40:49 GMT
I think it's gross and I think Wasserman needs to be kicked to the curb. Even if it's all just optics, optics matter. Mocking, denigrating and poo pooing Bernie supporters is turning off voters who generally align much more with the Democratic platform. If Hillary didn't need the dirty tricks to become the nominee then they shouldn't have used them. It undermines her. Jill Stein is going to get a ton of votes that would have gone to Hillary because of these kinds of shenanigans. We have terrible voter turnout in this country and these things make voters even more apathetic.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 23, 2016 17:45:28 GMT
I have decided to write in BF name come November. Jen Oh hell no. I would never pass the background check. There's not a shovel large enough for the shit they could dig up on me. BF for president - full pea cabinet OK jumperhop I'm in. Do we get to have a convention? Speeches? Buttons?  psssssssssssst Is there a BF for pres Lawn sign I can purchase?  |
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Post by ~KellyAnn~ on Jul 23, 2016 17:54:35 GMT
I have decided to write in BF name come November. Jen Oh hell no. I would never pass the background check. There's not a shovel large enough for the shit they could dig up on me. LOL, you're a hoot, BF! |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 23, 2016 17:58:11 GMT
I have decided to write in BF name come November. Jen Oh hell no. I would never pass the background check. There's not a shovel large enough for the shit they could dig up on me.   |
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psssssssssssst Is there a BF for pres Lawn sign I can purchase? 
