Colin Kaepernick.. Sitting During the Anthem.. O.K or Not?

Stand - don't stand. it's every persons right to do the one they wish. I've seen many people not stand at sporting events or parades when the flag passes. No one calls them out. Oh, that's right. They aren't famous.

How many people stand in their home when the anthem is played or do you only stand when out at a public event? How unpatriotic of you if you only stand in public.

Stand - don't stand. it's every persons right to do the one they wish. I've seen many people not stand at sporting events or parades when the flag passes. No one calls them out. Oh, that's right. They aren't famous.

How many people stand in their home when the anthem is played or do you only stand when out at a public event? How unpatriotic of you if you only stand in public.

I respect his decision. He and a fellow player took a knee last night. He also played very well!
We don't have to agree
Our country is based on freedom - the freedom to have a dissenting opinion and not get put in jail ( or punished in any way for it)
He said last night that he's donating a lot of money to the causes he supports.

@ihavetoomuchstuff , could you link me up with that article?  

Some information I found very interesting:

"Whatever his reasons, a constructive conversation aimed at addressing black oppression or police brutality will not transpire with an apparent communist-sympathizer who proudly wears socks that depict police as pigs.

To find the greatly perpetuated narrative of “black oppression in America,” Kaepernick need only look in the mirror. Instead of sitting, he should stand and stalk America’s inner-city streets, where communities are consumed by crime.

Below are five facts about black oppression that Kaepernick should know.

FACT 1. White police officers killed “unarmed black men” less than four percent of the time in 2015:

A year-long Washington Post investigation revealed that “white police officers killing unarmed black men — represent less than 4 percent of fatal police shootings.”

Indeed, the high-profile deaths of black people at the hands of white cops that spark so much media hype and activist attention were often the result of police defending themselves from deadly attacks by violent assailants.

More than 80 percent of the victims were armed with objects that could cause death or severe injuries, ranging from knives to machetes to automobiles.

An excess of 75 percent of the fatal police-involved shootings were in direct response to a violent suspect wielding a deadly weapon, according to the Post’s report.


So 25% were not in direct response to violent suspect. 

FACT 2. It would take cops 40 years to kill as many black men as have died at the hands of other black men in 2012 alone: 
What is the point of this?  

University of Toledo criminologist Dr. Richard R. Johnson examined the latest crime data from the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports and Centers for Disease Control and found that an average of 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between January 1, 2009, and December 31, 2012.

Professor Johnson’s research further concluded that 112 black men died from both justified and unjustified police-involved killings annually during this same period.

FACT 3. From 1980 through 2008, 93 percent of black victims were killed by blacks killers — not police:

There is no epidemic of police killing black people in America. It simply is not true.  This isn't just about killing.  POLICE BRUTALITY doesn't equal killing.

And according to the FBI’s latest annual “Crime in the United States” report, 90 percent of black Americans killed in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013 were killed by blacks.

FACT 4. Black people (mostly men) commit a grossly disproportionate amount of crime: Does that make police brutality okay?

There are five times fewer black people than white people in America, yet they consistently carry out a larger share of the crimes.

DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, black people committed 52 percent of homicides. And in 2013, black criminals committed 38 percent of the murders. Whites accounted for 31 percent.

FACT 5. Black people represented more than 80 percent of the violent crimes in Oakland, California: Once again point?

While black people in Oakland were just 28 percent of the population in 2013, they were “83 percent of the 12,161 homicide suspects, attempted homicides, robberies, assaults with firearms and assaults with weapons other than firearms, according to crime suspect data provided by the Oakland Police Department,” a report in the San Francisco Chronicle indicated.

The crime statistics come from “descriptions provided by crime victims and witnesses,” the Chronicle said:

— 8,228 of the 9,491 robbery suspects last year were described as African American.

— 844 of the 1,091 firearms assault suspects were described as African American.

— 1,034 of 1,439 people suspected in assaults with weapons other than firearms were said to be African American.

— 27 of the 32 suspects arrested last year for homicides were African American.

— 41 of 79 suspects in unsolved homicides last year were described as African American. Thirty were listed as “unknown” race or ethnicity.

Oakland, California, is about 12 miles from San Francisco, the city Kaepernick says “has become a home.”

Kaepernick can sit or he can stand and confront this self-inflicted horror show and black-on-black maimings just miles outside of his own backyard.

What has become abundantly clear is that lawbreaking black Americans, particularly young black males, put themselves in close proximity to (mostly white) police officers at rates sometimes five to ten times higher than whites.

This is a recipe for disaster."

  That's interesting Joy, I wonder what his thinking is on that? Don't get me wrong, he's welcome to his actions in my book, just curious as to why.

 And my condolences on the game yesterday. Sure as heck didn't think Wisconsin had any chance against LSU. 

  I read your first post, wondered where the info came from, & then clicked on your link. 

  Breitbart is where the article came from. I don't ask much of other posters, but would have appreciated a warning on where I was being linked to. Because I do not want to give that assholian site any of my business.

 The day I give an article from Breitbart any credence, is the day I know I've lost the plot.

So all of this makes police brutality okay?  The tax payers of Chicago have paid $500 MILLION due to police brutality yet the city cries broke for education.

New York City the same as above.  

A Cop can spray pepper spray at motorcycles DRIVING and nothing happens.

A Cop can shoot a child within 2 seconds of pulling up because of a toy gun and nothing happens.

Cops can break into a home and wake someone up and try to arrest them and the guy they wake up fights back because he doesn't know what is going on.  They tase him and beat him.  Come to find out oops wrong house.  I bet that is okay though because of the above statistics.  

I am sure this 84 year old mother was a threat.  I know my grandmother would have had a few choice words as well for those police.   
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ESbRNC8zY

I am sure this okay too:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaeT0njK4bM


I am sure the the police that sent racist text messages from the San Fran Police Department  will still do their job 100% correctly to protect and serve the community they work for.

I can keep going.  But keep using your right wing crap news to defend these police.