blue tulip
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Post by blue tulip on Jun 12, 2017 13:36:49 GMT
Ummm, they're all freeloaders. Well, in that case if he flakes, I'll take his place. I'll sleep on the couch, too. same. i'm even in MI, with a valid passport! 
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Post by guzismom on Jun 12, 2017 14:05:33 GMT
The only person I'd be pissed at in this situation would be myself...
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Dani-Mani
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jun 12, 2017 15:18:54 GMT
I don't understand who you are pissed at? Yourself?? You made a dumbass choice. Own it already. You have nobody to pissed at but you for making decisions that if anyone else on the board would've posted about, you would've ripped them a new one.
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Rhondito
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Post by Rhondito on Jun 12, 2017 18:07:02 GMT
You're supposed to let the guy chase you, not the other way around. You're doing all the pursing and completely emasculating him.
Think about it - do you really want a guy that you have to take on a fabulous trip? Or would you rather a man say "Yubon, I've booked a wonderful vacation for us to Paris. All you need to do is pack your bags!" How embarrassing for him to go on an overseas trip that his girlfriend(?) had to pay for.
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Post by blondiec47 on Jun 12, 2017 18:22:28 GMT
There is the old addage that if a man wants you, they will move heaven and earth to be with you. In my life this has turned out to be true. All my ex-boyfriends that I chased are ex's and the one that persued me is now my husband. Let him chase you, if he wants to be with you, he will.
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Olan
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Post by Olan on Jun 12, 2017 19:39:04 GMT
I think you should avoid being pissed altogether and consider it a relatively inexpensive lesson learned. Took several steps back and see what move he makes. My guess is his next move will give you even more clarity if you still need a nudge to just enjoy the trip with your son and best friend.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 19:43:47 GMT
There is the old addage that if a man wants you, they will move heaven and earth to be with you. In my life this has turned out to be true. All my ex-boyfriends that I chased are ex's and the one that persued me is now my husband. Let him chase you, if he wants to be with you, he will. There is the old addage that if a man wants you, they will move heaven and earth to be with you. In my life this has turned out to be true. All my ex-boyfriends that I chased are ex's and the one that persued me is now my husband. Let him chase you, if he wants to be with you, he will. This was true for me as well.
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uksue
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Post by uksue on Jun 12, 2017 19:59:07 GMT
Oh and I totally know what I would say to another Pea if she posted this here. The irony is not lost on me. Sometimes I need to have my ass kicked too though. Lol - I had to double check who had posted this for this very reason! You're braver than me - that's a lot of money to trust him to repay . Hope you have a great holiday - I'm hoping to be visiting friends in Glasgow , Edingburgh and St Andrews this summer .
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The Great Carpezio
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Jun 12, 2017 23:15:18 GMT
I only read the first three pages. There is a chance he is just using you/not that into you
Or, more likely
Based on what he has said, he is ADD/ADHD. I have some ADD tendencies and my one son has pretty severe ADHD. This is par for the course. People with ADD can be lovely, clever, fun, friendly, intelligent and even fairly or really successful people. They can also be procrasinating masters. He will need reminders because his brain is all over the place and he probably has twenty different things he is also into/doing right now. If he has ADHD he also has impulse control issues and might bite off more than he can chew. He means well. He isn't being an asshole, he struggles with organizing and prioritizing shit. You have to decide if you can deal with this.
Even the planning the dream trip while not taking care of the practical is sooooooo very ADD. I know.
If I'm right, he will do what he needs to do--at the last minute and you'll have a lot of fun on the trip together. You will need to decide what you can work with. Unless he gets behavioral/cognitive therapy and/or medication, you will continue dealing with this in the long run.
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georgiapea
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Post by georgiapea on Jun 15, 2017 23:59:09 GMT
Any dude update yet?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 1:05:13 GMT
I'm a little disappointed that so many refupeas kinda gave Yubon such a hand slap.
Sometimes even level headed strong women let their guard down & lose focus. I think she was looking for a little support along with a bit of a butt kick with this situation.
Yubon, you let your heart lead your head & now you must pick up & move on. If he shows up, enjoy it. If not, enjoy the trip & let it go. Don't beat yourself up. We all make a decision that might not have been the best choice on occasion.
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Jun 16, 2017 2:56:20 GMT
Nothing yet. I talked to him on the phone yesterday and he's still talking about going and he researched several places where to get it expedited. He's out of town on business this week in FL but I will see him next weekend for a wedding we are going to. I'm trying to play it cool and I'm not giving daily reminders. What happens in the next few weeks will certainly tell me a lot about him. I appreciate all of the posts, even the butt-kicking ones. That's pretty much what I asked for.
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Jun 16, 2017 3:03:04 GMT
I'm still wrapping my brain around the fact that $1800 is no big deal.
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PrettyInPeank
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jun 16, 2017 3:18:08 GMT
Nothing yet. I talked to him on the phone yesterday and he's still talking about going and he researched several places where to get it expedited. He's out of town on business this week in FL but I will see him next weekend for a wedding we are going to. I'm trying to play it cool and I'm not giving daily reminders. What happens in the next few weeks will certainly tell me a lot about him. I appreciate all of the posts, even the butt-kicking ones. That's pretty much what I asked for. It's tough I'm sure, but really smart of you to sit back and watch. My fingers are crossed that he gets his shit together. When do you leave?
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Jun 16, 2017 3:34:42 GMT
Nothing yet. I talked to him on the phone yesterday and he's still talking about going and he researched several places where to get it expedited. He's out of town on business this week in FL but I will see him next weekend for a wedding we are going to. I'm trying to play it cool and I'm not giving daily reminders. What happens in the next few weeks will certainly tell me a lot about him. I appreciate all of the posts, even the butt-kicking ones. That's pretty much what I asked for. It's tough I'm sure, but really smart of you to sit back and watch. My fingers are crossed that he gets his shit together. When do you leave? Aug. 6, and thank you
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tanya2
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Post by tanya2 on Jun 16, 2017 3:38:46 GMT
while I want to give you a butt kicking too, because I know you wouldn't let anyone else get away with this - the post about ADD/ADHD has a lot of truth to it, and could very well be the case
or it could just be a case of walking & talking like a duck.......
I really hope it works out for you though.
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Jun 16, 2017 4:03:53 GMT
while I want to give you a butt kicking too, because I know you wouldn't let anyone else get away with this - the post about ADD/ADHD has a lot of truth to it, and could very well be the case or it could just be a case of walking & talking like a duck....... I really hope it works out for you though. yeah that post did make a lot of sense. He moved to CA for work from 2013-2015 and hired a personal assistant. I think he has his shit together when it comes to work and taking care of his family (older parents here in MI and his adult daughters who stayed in CA) but when it comes to taking care of details in his personal life, he's a hot mess. He really puts himself last.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 16, 2017 6:36:27 GMT
I only read the first three pages. There is a chance he is just using you/not that into you Or, more likely Based on what he has said, he is ADD/ADHD. I have some ADD tendencies and my one son has pretty severe ADHD. This is par for the course. People with ADD can be lovely, clever, fun, friendly, intelligent and even fairly or really successful people. They can also be procrasinating masters. He will need reminders because his brain is all over the place and he probably has twenty different things he is also into/doing right now. If he has ADHD he also has impulse control issues and might bite off more than he can chew. He means well. He isn't being an asshole, he struggles with organizing and prioritizing shit. You have to decide if you can deal with this. Even the planning the dream trip while not taking care of the practical is sooooooo very ADD. I know. If I'm right, he will do what he needs to do--at the last minute and you'll have a lot of fun on the trip together. You will need to decide what you can work with. Unless he gets behavioral/cognitive therapy and/or medication, you will continue dealing with this in the long run. You read my thoughts. ADD means that someone attends to things differently than someone without ADD. Things need to be right up close to be focused on. It doesn't necessarily mean that he behaves as a child, but it may mean that he will annoy the everloving crap out of someone who loves to plan things down to a t months in advance.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 16, 2017 6:46:18 GMT
while I want to give you a butt kicking too, because I know you wouldn't let anyone else get away with this - the post about ADD/ADHD has a lot of truth to it, and could very well be the case or it could just be a case of walking & talking like a duck....... I really hope it works out for you though. yeah that post did make a lot of sense. He moved to CA for work from 2013-2015 and hired a personal assistant. I think he has his shit together when it comes to work and taking care of his family (older parents here in MI and his adult daughters who stayed in CA) but when it comes to taking care of details in his personal life, he's a hot mess. He really puts himself last. You might ask him directly if he thinks he has ADD tendencies. He didn't become successful by not having overcome difficulties. If he has an attention problem, he'll know it. If he does, then you can learn what comes easily for him and what is a struggle. You might be surprised. It might work out great. Sounds like you're really good at planning out details. Great! You can plan out detailed stuff! Plan away to your heart's desire! He'll be the one to grab you and tell you to come right this minute to see a spectacular sunset and teach you to appreciate the moment. Stranger things have happened. ETA - simple answer here is to get his assistant to file the paperwork or sit on him until it's done.
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Post by Night Owl on Jun 16, 2017 9:16:23 GMT
I've only read the first page but what does your best friend think about him coming along? If I were your friend I don't know if I would be too happy to have this guy tagging along on my trip if he's not somebody you are serious about.
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Jun 16, 2017 10:41:28 GMT
My friend is excited about him going. She knows him from high school too.
He only had a personal assistant during the 2 years he lived in CA. I think he struggles without one.
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Post by anonrefugee on Jun 16, 2017 11:02:06 GMT
while I want to give you a butt kicking too, because I know you wouldn't let anyone else get away with this - the post about ADD/ADHD has a lot of truth to it, and could very well be the case or it could just be a case of walking & talking like a duck....... I really hope it works out for you though. yeah that post did make a lot of sense. He moved to CA for work from 2013-2015 and hired a personal assistant. I think he has his shit together when it comes to work and taking care of his family (older parents here in MI and his adult daughters who stayed in CA) but when it comes to taking care of details in his personal life, he's a hot mess. He really puts himself last. Be forewarned: When you're married to someone with ADHD who puts themselves last, that also includes you, or attention to your plans. Because they know you love them and understand. It sucks sometimes, really does. I wish I'd known in advance, and so does he.
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Post by flute4peace on Jun 16, 2017 11:50:16 GMT
I only read the first three pages. There is a chance he is just using you/not that into you Or, more likely Based on what he has said, he is ADD/ADHD. I have some ADD tendencies and my one son has pretty severe ADHD. This is par for the course. People with ADD can be lovely, clever, fun, friendly, intelligent and even fairly or really successful people. They can also be procrasinating masters. He will need reminders because his brain is all over the place and he probably has twenty different things he is also into/doing right now. If he has ADHD he also has impulse control issues and might bite off more than he can chew. He means well. He isn't being an asshole, he struggles with organizing and prioritizing shit. You have to decide if you can deal with this. Even the planning the dream trip while not taking care of the practical is sooooooo very ADD. I know. If I'm right, he will do what he needs to do--at the last minute and you'll have a lot of fun on the trip together. You will need to decide what you can work with. Unless he gets behavioral/cognitive therapy and/or medication, you will continue dealing with this in the long run. You read my thoughts. ADD means that someone attends to things differently than someone without ADD. Things need to be right up close to be focused on. It doesn't necessarily mean that he behaves as a child, but it may mean that he will annoy the everloving crap out of someone who loves to plan things down to a t months in advance. My last 3 years totally validate this post. I've pretty much lost my business over it.
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Post by Night Owl on Jun 16, 2017 12:03:36 GMT
My friend is excited about him going. She knows him from high school too. Or is she just being nice? To be honest if I had a choice I would rather chum around with my friends without their husband/significant other around.
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Jun 16, 2017 12:41:21 GMT
My friend is excited about him going. She knows him from high school too. Or is she just being nice? To be honest if I had a choice I would rather chum around with my friends without their husband/significant other around. im pretty sure I know my BFF quite well. She's fine with it. It's already a free trip for her where she gets the master bedroom and bathroom all to herself. And she's taking two days to herself to go to the Culloden battlefield and Inverness area (my son and I are doing different day tours than her).
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jun 16, 2017 12:55:12 GMT
I'm a little disappointed that so many refupeas kinda gave Yubon such a hand slap. Sometimes even level headed strong women let their guard down & lose focus. I think she was looking for a little support along with a bit of a butt kick with this situation. Yubon, you let your heart lead your head & now you must pick up & move on. If he shows up, enjoy it. If not, enjoy the trip & let it go. Don't beat yourself up. We all make a decision that might not have been the best choice on occasion. I'm surprised you're surprised. Yubon is no stranger to NSBR. We all know that asking the peas' opinion is opening yourself to opinions you don't share. I'm thinking she wanted some dissenting opinions to figure out this situation. For anyone wanting sunshine and rainbows, Tracie Claiborne has a facebook group you can ask to join.
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Post by kelly8875 on Jun 16, 2017 14:47:15 GMT
Ok- I've only read through page 5 on my phone, but here are my thoughts...
I would be getting pissed now. BUT... we don't know or fully understand your relationship with this guy that lives so far away. 8 weeks is still plenty of time to get a renewal. Everyone needs reminders in life, so maybe give him a couple more, like he asked. But step back and truly listen to his response each time and see if there are flags raised. Listen to them like you would if it was another Pea telling this story.
Now- that nice stuff being said, here's a story for you...
I have also known someone since high school in the early 90s. I'm in Iowa, he is in Tampa, Florida. Through Facebook we started becoming friends again (not anything romantic on my side, his side yes and I did shut it down after I realized his scam). Anyway, just normal "what ya been up to" kinds of conversations. Life, marriage, divorce, kids, etc. eventually he started telling me how well off he was, kept always just trying to make himself look amazing. Always traveling here and there, and never posting any photos or anything. So I asked him to send me pictures of him and his sister at the beach (he supposedly went to SoCal with her). He wouldn't share pictures or even just text me one... just small things like this that didn't add up. Or I'd remember things he said and then later some little detail didn't make sense. So, I did a Google search.... and whammo! Seriously I found mug shots of him. Without a bunch of details, this was obviously a red flag. I called him out on things and that was it. He still tries years after to be friendly with me, but I know my boundaries and he isn't crossing them. To my knowledge I'm the only person who knows about his true existence, and he can trust me so far to keep it secret with him. But if he crosses a line or treats other people poorly, he knows I'll tell his story.
Obviously I hope something like this isn't going on for you, but it's a reminder that online and long distance friendships aren't always what they seem.
Go on your trip with ZERO expectations of him or a future, and you will have a good time with your friend and DS. If you have ANY expectations, you will likely be let down.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 16, 2017 16:51:29 GMT
My friend is excited about him going. She knows him from high school too. He only had a personal assistant during the 2 years he lived in CA. I think he struggles without one. Sounds like his life would run a lot smoother if he could get another one. He may have struggles you can't even imagine. If it's ADD, it's not a character fault.
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Jun 16, 2017 22:01:49 GMT
My friend is excited about him going. She knows him from high school too. He only had a personal assistant during the 2 years he lived in CA. I think he struggles without one. Sounds like his life would run a lot smoother if he could get another one. He may have struggles you can't even imagine. If it's ADD, it's not a character fault. i know nothing about ADHD but googled it and some light bulbs are going off in my head. Is it possible though to have ADHD only in your personal life but not professionally? I mean, he's killing it at work and he always been successful. He takes care of so many people but can't seem to get it together in his personal life. He does talk about his ex-wife and his ex-gf's and how they would always nag him because he is so forgetful or doesn't pay enough attention or listen to them. He admits that's all true and has been a life-long problem.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 16, 2017 22:18:59 GMT
True adhd will present across situations, but some people are able to find strategies or coping mechanisms for certain situations and thus may not be as evident.
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