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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 26, 2018 16:56:43 GMT
There is a huge difference between being a doctor in the White House who takes the president's blood pressure and the person who runs the entire VA. Ya think? Why the snark? Those who were commenting on this thread that he was good enough to be Bush and Obama's White House physician but now there was a double standard didn't seem to understand that White House physician and running the Veteran's Administration required two different skill sets. |
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Post by Kymberlee on Apr 26, 2018 17:03:32 GMT
Out of curiosity , what makes him unqualified to lead the VA?
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Post by used2scrap on Apr 26, 2018 17:05:10 GMT
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Post by Kymberlee on Apr 26, 2018 17:50:00 GMT
From the article in The Hill the VA has been headed by only two people that look to be “qualified”. The rest were attorneys, a congressman and several other medical doctors so it isn’t unprecedented that Jackson was nominated. He appears to have at least the same qualifications as most of his predecessors and more qualified than some others.
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Post by peano on Apr 26, 2018 18:06:20 GMT
There is a huge difference between being a doctor in the White House who takes the president's blood pressure and the person who runs the entire VA. Im sorry. This is just an absurd statement. This is a two star admiral that has been the physician to three presidents. He isn’t a glorified nurse practitioner. He has had no issues until he was nominated for the VA position and now he is a raging alcoholic and pill pusher. Makes absolutely zero sense. None. And you know this how? |
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Post by Just T on Apr 26, 2018 18:11:52 GMT
From the article in The Hill the VA has been headed by only two people that look to be “qualified”. The rest were attorneys, a congressman and several other medical doctors so it isn’t unprecedented that Jackson was nominated. He appears to have at least the same qualifications as most of his predecessors and more qualified than some others. Well, given the mess that the VA is/has been in, shouldn't we perhaps have higher standards for the person to be in charge of it than we have had in the past? |
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Post by Kymberlee on Apr 26, 2018 18:21:30 GMT
I dunno, peano. Call it a hunch. Who knows, maybe he managed to serve under three presidents and kept the dark side of his personality hidden. Pretty cool trick, I would say. I mean, the guy is an intimate of three presidents so common sense tells me that if he was all the terrible things being thrown at him, he would have been relieved of duty a long time ago. 🤷🏼♀️ |
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Post by Kymberlee on Apr 26, 2018 18:26:07 GMT
From the article in The Hill the VA has been headed by only two people that look to be “qualified”. The rest were attorneys, a congressman and several other medical doctors so it isn’t unprecedented that Jackson was nominated. He appears to have at least the same qualifications as most of his predecessors and more qualified than some others. Well, given the mess that the VA is/has been in, shouldn't we perhaps have higher standards for the person to be in charge of it than we have had in the past? Absolutely, but that isn’t why he withdrew his name from consideration and that hasn’t been the headline for the last 24 hours. My point is that he was an upstanding Rear Admiral in the Navy and physician to three presidents a week ago and now, he is drunk and pill pusher according to some media outlets. |
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Post by Just T on Apr 26, 2018 18:29:09 GMT
Well, given the mess that the VA is/has been in, shouldn't we perhaps have higher standards for the person to be in charge of it than we have had in the past? Absolutely, but that isn’t why he withdrew his name from consideration and that hasn’t been the headline for the last 24 hours. My point is that he was an upstanding Rear Admiral in the Navy and physician to three presidents a week ago and now, he is drunk and pill pusher according to some media outlets. I agree. But, I was addressing your comment that he was just as qualified as past VA directors who weren't really qualified. |
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Post by used2scrap on Apr 26, 2018 18:38:36 GMT
There is a huge difference between being a doctor in the White House who takes the president's blood pressure and the person who runs the entire VA. Im sorry. This is just an absurd statement. This is a two star admiral that has been the physician to three presidents. He isn’t a glorified nurse practitioner. He has had no issues until he was nominated for the VA position and now he is a raging alcoholic and pill pusher. Makes absolutely zero sense. None. And Bill Cosby was a beloved father figure until he wasn’t. Plenty of people keep dark secrets and behavior is hushed up at the highest levels in the military and other institutions. I think it’s too bad that his nomination wasn’t a profound discussion about the VA and it’s needs, and the direction it should be headed, and what his thoughts were on how he was prepared to lead the organization. But given the amount of “off the record” concerns voiced by many in the GOP it seemed clear he wasn’t going to be confirmed. And like removing Shulkin for his “ethics” instead of policy views and disagreements, something very political seems to have gone down instead. I can’t imagine Jackson would have withdrawn if there wasn’t something to the allegations. The current climate is hardly one where just the implication of a problem is enough to derail anyone. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 19:19:12 GMT
Well, given the mess that the VA is/has been in, shouldn't we perhaps have higher standards for the person to be in charge of it than we have had in the past? Absolutely, but that isn’t why he withdrew his name from consideration and that hasn’t been the headline for the last 24 hours. My point is that he was an upstanding Rear Admiral in the Navy and physician to three presidents a week ago and now, he is drunk and pill pusher according to some media outlets. And Pompeo was great...until Trump nominated him. And Ric Grenell was great...until Trump nominated him. It's so obvious. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 20:21:09 GMT
Absolutely, but that isn’t why he withdrew his name from consideration and that hasn’t been the headline for the last 24 hours. My point is that he was an upstanding Rear Admiral in the Navy and physician to three presidents a week ago and now, he is drunk and pill pusher according to some media outlets. And Pompeo was great...until Trump nominated him. And Ric Grenell was great...until Trump nominated him. It's so obvious. Yes it’s obvious trump picks people for job that he sees as loyal to him or just because he likes them. Actual qualifications very rarely if at all are part of the criteria trump uses for those he picks to work in his administration. And Mike Pompeo should not be Secretary of State. The Secretary of State is the head diplomat for our country. Mike Pompeo is known as a hawk. Hawks tend to believe the only solution to situations are military solutions. That being the case how can a hawk make a good diplomat when the main job of a diplomat is to find solutions that solve the problem and that don’t put our military men and women at risk? I’m not sure why old Ronny’s past deeds were missed or overlooked by the Bush and Obama Administrations. Up until Ronny’s press conference on trump’s physical folks in the Obama Administration said Ronny was a good guy. Now they are silent. But even if old Ronny was a good guy there was no way he was qualified to run the VA. What the VA needs more than anything is a director with strong management skills first and foremost. Old Ronny doesn’t have those skills based on his current and past work experience and I believe our veterans deserve better than someone using the VA to find out what management skills he or she has. Wouldn’t you agree? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 21:16:44 GMT
Why the snark? Those who were commenting on this thread that he was good enough to be Bush and Obama's White House physician but now there was a double standard didn't seem to understand that White House physician and running the Veteran's Administration required two different skill sets. Because I read your comment as snarky so responded in kind, pardon though if you didn’t intend it that way, but it read to me that you thought previous posters were too stupid to get it. I didn’t read their comments as not understanding the two positions differed, but, rather as they’ve said, they believe there is a double-standard at work. Regardless of the difference, the behavior for which Johnson’s accused would be unacceptable in either position, and it’s the accusations people were talking about at that point. For the record, I don’t know that he’s necessarily the best nominee for the position. It’s a dilemma in that I see it the way I see how the hospitals I work for are run. One, the CEO isn’t a physician but a businessman, and that becomes apparent in many of the ways we are made to increase productivity but not necessarily better healthcare. That system is closing/merging hospitals. The other, although I am new to it, is run by three people, a businessman, a physician, and a nurse. That system is expanding and opening hospitals. The VA has had its problems for a long time, and it needs strong leadership. I hope that can be found. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 26, 2018 21:43:37 GMT
I dunno, peano . Call it a hunch. Who knows, maybe he managed to serve under three presidents and kept the dark side of his personality hidden. Pretty cool trick, I would say. I mean, the guy is an intimate of three presidents so common sense tells me that if he was all the terrible things being thrown at him, he would have been relieved of duty a long time ago. 🤷🏼♀️ That is my thought too  |
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Post by mom on Apr 27, 2018 1:42:32 GMT
So has anyone seen/heard of the Lubbock,Texas Democratic Party cropping Melania out from a photo of all the Presidents and First Ladies at Barbra Bush's funeral? Here is a Newsweek article about it.Crap like this is unacceptable. Seriously, how childish. And then to not correct it (when you are aware it was an 'error' ) because you're too busy? Pathetic. This is a local story to me and all sorts of shit is hitting the fan about it. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 27, 2018 2:01:54 GMT
So has anyone seen/heard of the Lubbock,Texas Democratic Party cropping Melania out from a photo of all the Presidents and First Ladies at Barbra Bush's funeral? Here is a Newsweek article about it.Crap like this is unacceptable. Seriously, how childish. And then to not correct it (when you are aware it was an 'error' ) because you're too busy? Pathetic. This is a local story to me and all sorts of shit is hitting the fan about it. Sadly I’m not surprised  |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 27, 2018 2:15:10 GMT
So has anyone seen/heard of the Lubbock,Texas Democratic Party cropping Melania out from a photo of all the Presidents and First Ladies at Barbra Bush's funeral? Here is a Newsweek article about it.THAT is so wrong! I thought it was a beautiful picture of ALL of them.. |
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Post by dewryce on Apr 27, 2018 2:19:07 GMT
So has anyone seen/heard of the Lubbock,Texas Democratic Party cropping Melania out from a photo of all the Presidents and First Ladies at Barbra Bush's funeral? Here is a Newsweek article about it.Crap like this is unacceptable. Seriously, how childish. And then to not correct it (when you are aware it was an 'error' ) because you're too busy? Pathetic. This is a local story to me and all sorts of shit is hitting the fan about it. To what end, do you know? I can see cropping out everyone from a political party if you want a photo of just "your guys" and it can be done easily. But I don't see what purpose it serves to single any one person out. |
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Post by mom on Apr 27, 2018 2:50:46 GMT
So has anyone seen/heard of the Lubbock,Texas Democratic Party cropping Melania out from a photo of all the Presidents and First Ladies at Barbra Bush's funeral? Here is a Newsweek article about it.Crap like this is unacceptable. Seriously, how childish. And then to not correct it (when you are aware it was an 'error' ) because you're too busy? Pathetic. This is a local story to me and all sorts of shit is hitting the fan about it. To what end, do you know? I can see cropping out everyone from a political party if you want a photo of just "your guys" and it can be done easily. But I don't see what purpose it serves to single any one person out. I don't think they were wanting to have a photo of just 'their guys'. I think they were wanting to show their hate for Trump and so they cut his wife out. Its a show of their disresepect for Trump. I completely get not liking Trump. Totally get it. But to take a photo of all those attending a First Lady's funeral and a (potentially) unpolitical moment and destroy it? Thats classless. Be political another day, with a million other photos. Sometimes, for just a moment, you just need to set aside your hate and disgust. SaveSaveSaveSave |
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Post by dewryce on Apr 27, 2018 2:54:56 GMT
To what end, do you know? I can see cropping out everyone from a political party if you want a photo of just "your guys" and it can be done easily. But I don't see what purpose it serves to single any one person out. I don't think they were wanting to have a photo of just 'their guys'. I think they were wanting to show their hate for Trump and so they cut his wife out. Its a show of their disresepect for Trump. I completely get not liking Trump. Totally get it. But to take a photo of all those attending a First Lady's funeral and a (potentially) unpolitical moment and destroy it? Thats classless. Be political another day, with a million other photos. Sometimes, for just a moment, you just need to set aside your hate and disgust. SaveSaveSaveSaveOh, I agree that it wasn't just to get their own party in the photo, that was just the only reason I could come up with to justify cropping someone out. Obviously not the case here. I was wondering why they said they did it. |
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Post by mom on Apr 27, 2018 2:58:19 GMT
I don't think they were wanting to have a photo of just 'their guys'. I think they were wanting to show their hate for Trump and so they cut his wife out. Its a show of their disresepect for Trump. I completely get not liking Trump. Totally get it. But to take a photo of all those attending a First Lady's funeral and a (potentially) unpolitical moment and destroy it? Thats classless. Be political another day, with a million other photos. Sometimes, for just a moment, you just need to set aside your hate and disgust. SaveSaveSaveSaveOh, I agree that it wasn't just to get their own party in the photo, that was just the only reason I could come up with to justify cropping someone out. Obviously not the case here. I was wondering why they said they did it. lol, sorry. I misunderstood! What they are saying locally is that it was an accident. I have several friends that are active Democrats and there was a closed door meeting & it was said they were trying to edit the background....but that isn't really flying either. The guy who did it hasn't lost his job (yet) but I bet its coming. The outrage wasn't too bad until the story went National. SaveSave |
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Post by mom on Apr 27, 2018 3:12:41 GMT
Anyone know why the House chaplain was asked by Ryan to resign? LINK |
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 27, 2018 3:16:57 GMT
There is a huge difference between being a doctor in the White House who takes the president's blood pressure and the person who runs the entire VA. Im sorry. This is just an absurd statement. This is a two star admiral that has been the physician to three presidents. He isn’t a glorified nurse practitioner. He has had no issues until he was nominated for the VA position and now he is a raging alcoholic and pill pusher. Makes absolutely zero sense. None. i think the VA has such a pr issues because if it's mismanagement that you really need someone above reproach. He didn't fit that bill. I do think there is a difference between being a good doctor and being able to be in charge. |
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Post by Skellinton on Apr 27, 2018 3:26:59 GMT
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Post by dewryce on Apr 27, 2018 3:36:52 GMT
Oh, I agree that it wasn't just to get their own party in the photo, that was just the only reason I could come up with to justify cropping someone out. Obviously not the case here. I was wondering why they said they did it. lol, sorry. I misunderstood! What they are saying locally is that it was an accident. I have several friends that are active Democrats and there was a closed door meeting & it was said they were trying to edit the background....but that isn't really flying either. The guy who did it hasn't lost his job (yet) but I bet its coming. The outrage wasn't too bad until the story went National. SaveSaveNo worries! Yeah, I'm not buying the accident excuse. There was a big hubbub made of her being included and I find it very hard to believe no one noticed she was cut out before it went to print, or "live" if online. |
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Post by mom on Apr 27, 2018 3:54:59 GMT
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Post by mom26 on Apr 28, 2018 1:10:10 GMT
What are everyone's thoughts on the developments between North Korea and South Korea? Seeing Kim Jong-un actually hug Moon Jae-in was not something I'd ever think to see in my lifetime.
And KJU being the first NoKo leader to cross into SoKo since 1953? That's a big deal no matter what side your agenda lies, I think.
Still, while optimistic, I'm remaining very cautious. It would not surprise me if Un has something dastardly up his sleeve, but I do hope there is some sincerity there.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 28, 2018 1:16:11 GMT
What are everyone's thoughts on the developments between North Korea and South Korea? Seeing Kim Jong-un actually hug Moon Jae-in was not something I'd ever think to see in my lifetime. And KJU being the first NoKo leader to cross into SoKo since 1953? That's a big deal no matter what side your agenda lies, I think. Still, while optimistic, I'm remaining very cautious. It would not surprise me if Un has something dastardly up his sleeve, but I do hope there is some sincerity there. The meeting was exceptional. I think we need to be very cautious. There is a lot of uncharted territory in No Korea and they do a lot underground. |
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Post by mom26 on Apr 28, 2018 1:22:44 GMT
Completely agree with you, revirdsuba99. It was quite remarkable, though, wasn't it? A really huge step in the right direction and if it continues on that path, that would be beyond amazing. Just can't help the niggling feeling that Un can't be trusted. |
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Post by peasapie on Apr 28, 2018 1:34:06 GMT
What are everyone's thoughts on the developments between North Korea and South Korea? Seeing Kim Jong-un actually hug Moon Jae-in was not something I'd ever think to see in my lifetime. And KJU being the first NoKo leader to cross into SoKo since 1953? That's a big deal no matter what side your agenda lies, I think. Still, while optimistic, I'm remaining very cautious. It would not surprise me if Un has something dastardly up his sleeve, but I do hope there is some sincerity there. To what do you attribute this change of heart? SaveSave |
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