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Post by mom26 on Apr 28, 2018 1:40:58 GMT
What are everyone's thoughts on the developments between North Korea and South Korea? Seeing Kim Jong-un actually hug Moon Jae-in was not something I'd ever think to see in my lifetime. And KJU being the first NoKo leader to cross into SoKo since 1953? That's a big deal no matter what side your agenda lies, I think. Still, while optimistic, I'm remaining very cautious. It would not surprise me if Un has something dastardly up his sleeve, but I do hope there is some sincerity there. To what do you attribute this change of heart? SaveSaveHonestly, I credit the cooperation of the Chinese government and their backing of the imposed sanctions. It put a real hurting on KJU, I think. But I know it isn't that simple, and I still don't trust Un. At all. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 28, 2018 1:56:10 GMT
To what do you attribute this change of heart? They have nothing. They have military, and weapons, but not much else. The people eat dirt. They desperately need food. Even the soldier who defected had large worms in his stomach. On that note, my concern might be that we fatten them up and they go rogue. Who knows, when the people taste the better life, they may totally revolt! |
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Post by peasapie on Apr 28, 2018 2:02:40 GMT
Yes I see what you both are saying and it makes sense. I was reading that he may be more secure now than when he first took office and feeling more inclined to threaten less and try diplomacy more.
He's so unpredictable that it's hard to know what to expect from one week to the next.
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Post by mom on Apr 28, 2018 2:05:42 GMT
I do not trust him one bit. I think Kim Jong-un is only putting on a show right now. I predict within a year he will be back to his old ways.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Apr 28, 2018 2:08:13 GMT
My dad fought in the Korean Conflict (War) so I'm glad it is finally over. These are very historic times.
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Post by mom26 on Apr 28, 2018 2:13:46 GMT
Yes I see what you both are saying and it makes sense. I was reading that he may be more secure now than when he first took office and feeling more inclined to threaten less and try diplomacy more. He's so unpredictable that it's hard to know what to expect from one week to the next. I can't see how he'd feel more secure. The sanctions - from what I understand - are strangling him. What did you hear were the reasons he feels more secure? I'm seriously curious about this. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 28, 2018 2:56:23 GMT
What did you hear were the reasons he feels more secure? Maybe she means trump? |
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Post by leftturnonly on Apr 28, 2018 2:56:50 GMT
Is there anything more telling about this board than the lack of a thread over the very likely end of the Korean War and the denuclearization of the Korean Penninsula? I do not trust him one bit. I think Kim Jong-un is only putting on a show right now. I predict within a year he will be back to his old ways. I don't think so. Not only has the pressure against N Korea hit an all-time high short of actual warfare, but their nuclear tests within North Korea have collapsed a mountain which is probably leaving radioactive fallout open to the air. Rocket Man is out of sleeve length to hide cards in. Time to fold. ETA - Please, don't ask my opinion about the brilliance of detonating 5 different nuclear blasts within one of your own mountains. I just might give it.  |
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Post by mom26 on Apr 28, 2018 2:59:51 GMT
What did you hear were the reasons he feels more secure? Maybe she means trump? Oh. That makes sense, I guess. |
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Post by mom26 on Apr 28, 2018 3:11:18 GMT
Is there anything more telling about this board than the lack of a thread over the very likely end of the Korean War and the denuclearization of the Korean Penninsula? I do not trust him one bit. I think Kim Jong-un is only putting on a show right now. I predict within a year he will be back to his old ways. I don't think so. Not only has the pressure against N Korea hit an all-time high short of actual warfare, but their nuclear tests within North Korea have collapsed a mountain which is probably leaving radioactive fallout open to the air. Rocket Man is out of sleeve length to hide cards in. Time to fold. ETA - Please, don't ask my opinion about the brilliance of detonating 5 different nuclear blasts within one of your own mountains. I just might give it. Excellent points, LeftTurn. I, too, was mystified at the lack of discussion over this development, hence me dipping my toe into this thread about it. I do believe KJU's back is against the wall and he knows he's without options right now. Doesn't mean he won't look for a way out and back to his old ways in the near or far future, though. Again, optimism mixed with caution at this point. |
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Post by leftturnonly on Apr 28, 2018 3:29:19 GMT
I, too, was mystified at the lack of discussion over this development, hence me dipping my toe into this thread about it. About as mysterious as what time the sun will rise or set each day. |
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Post by peasapie on Apr 28, 2018 3:38:47 GMT
Yes I see what you both are saying and it makes sense. I was reading that he may be more secure now than when he first took office and feeling more inclined to threaten less and try diplomacy more. He's so unpredictable that it's hard to know what to expect from one week to the next. I can't see how he'd feel more secure. The sanctions - from what I understand - are strangling him. What did you hear were the reasons he feels more secure? I'm seriously curious about this. No I don’t mean Trump. Why now Here is the article I was reading. I don’t know why he would, either, to be honest. I thought perhaps just the passage of time with him at the helm. |
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Post by andreasmom on Apr 28, 2018 5:06:13 GMT
Completely agree with you, revirdsuba99. It was quite remarkable, though, wasn't it? A really huge step in the right direction and if it continues on that path, that would be beyond amazing. Just can't help the niggling feeling that Un can't be trusted. I’m right there with you. It was an amazing day in history and at the same time, I can’t fully celebrate because I don’t trust him. Maybe, just maybe, his ego is big enough that he is doing this so he will be the biggest Korean leader in history for signing the treaty? I know there are many, many things behind this, but I wonder what the end game is. |
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Post by Kymberlee on Apr 28, 2018 6:51:45 GMT
If this had happened on President Obama’s watch, The Nobel prize would have been already delivered to him via Jeff Bezo’s fancy Amazon drones. Sorry, my snark is showing. Time will tell what happens but anyone who thinks the US wasn’t instrumental in helping to broker this historical moment is being willfully ignorant.
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Post by jlynnbarth on Apr 28, 2018 7:16:28 GMT
I already posted on the other thread about my thoughts. I agree it’s historic and a giant step in the right direction, but I don’t trust Kim one bit. I think the sanctions were strangling him. He had no other choice. If the Capitol starts to starve like the rest of the country those people (that include his Military) will revolt against him. I feel he’s doing what he needs to do to bide his time. Until the people outside the Capitol start seeing benefits from this I will not trust the psycho. I think him blowing up a whole mountain from within is part of it. Some of his most brilliant people are probably dead. He really has no choice in my opinion.
As much as I don’t like Trump I have to give him credit for the heavier sanctions and credit goes to China also for agreeing to them too.
I pray that the innocent N Korean people get the food, medical attention etc... that they need. It breaks my heart that they have suffered for so long. I hope we are able to see family reunifications soon.
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Post by gar on Apr 28, 2018 8:16:55 GMT
I, too, was mystified at the lack of discussion over this development, hence me dipping my toe into this thread about it. About as mysterious as what time the sun will rise or set each day. So no one started a thread but it's the fault of the left leaning members here...? From the outside, I agree that this appears to be a fairly momentous moment but the justifiable skepticism is putting a huge dampener on it for many people I think. It's too soon to jump up and down with excitement but it is at least a step in the right direction. Let the world cross it's collective fingers! ETA, A thread has now been started. |
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Post by leftturnonly on Apr 28, 2018 9:11:25 GMT
About as mysterious as what time the sun will rise or set each day. So no one started a thread but it's the fault of the left leaning members here...? From the outside, I agree that this appears to be a fairly momentous moment but the justifiable skepticism is putting a huge dampener on it for many people I think. It's too soon to jump up and down with excitement but it is at least a step in the right direction. Let the world cross it's collective fingers! ETA, A thread has now been started. You put words in my mouth that I didn't say. You ascribed a thought to me that you shouldn't have. |
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Post by gar on Apr 28, 2018 9:25:58 GMT
I'm sorry, clearly I misunderstood. Can you explain why you meant about it being indicative of this board that no one was discussing it?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 13:25:37 GMT
I think this is momentous news, and I don't think hoping for the best is a bad thing. NK has reached a breaking point of their own doing, hastened by the increased sanctions, and whether or not I, you, or we trust Un has nothing to do with it. No one suddenly trusts him. I don't care whether he has plans in his little brain to someday rise again -- he is not smarter or better equipped to carry out those plans, so he can delude himself however he wants. He's castrated himself with the knife China and the U.S. handed him, and hopefully now we'll be instrumental in his political beheading with that same knife.
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Post by leftturnonly on Apr 28, 2018 13:31:16 GMT
Exactly, @scrubologist.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 15:14:09 GMT
If this had happened on President Obama’s watch, The Nobel prize would have been already delivered to him via Jeff Bezo’s fancy Amazon drones. Sorry, my snark is showing. Time will tell what happens but anyone who thinks the US wasn’t instrumental in helping to broker this historical moment is being willfully ignorant. snicker. He got the prize for doing nothing if you remember!  |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 28, 2018 15:22:16 GMT
I already posted on the other thread about my thoughts. I agree it’s historic and a giant step in the right direction, but I don’t trust Kim one bit. I think the sanctions were strangling him. He had no other choice. If the Capitol starts to starve like the rest of the country those people (that include his Military) will revolt against him. I feel he’s doing what he needs to do to bide his time. Until the people outside the Capitol start seeing benefits from this I will not trust the psycho. I think him blowing up a whole mountain from within is part of it. Some of his most brilliant people are probably dead. He really has no choice in my opinion. As much as I don’t like Trump I have to give him credit for the heavier sanctions and credit goes to China also for agreeing to them too. I pray that the innocent N Korean people get the food, medical attention etc... that they need. It breaks my heart that they have suffered for so long. I hope we are able to see family reunifications soon. I agree I don’t like him, I wish he would stop with his tweeting and stop with all his implusive responses and so many other things! But he is doing some of the things he said he’d do and he is getting things done, whether I like what he’s doing or not. |
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Post by gale w on Apr 28, 2018 17:16:06 GMT
I agree  I don’t like him, I wish he would stop with his tweeting and stop with all his implusive responses and so many other things! But he is doing some of the things he said he’d do and he is getting things done, whether I like what he’s doing or not. This exactly. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 18:53:15 GMT
Absolutely, but that isn’t why he withdrew his name from consideration and that hasn’t been the headline for the last 24 hours. My point is that he was an upstanding Rear Admiral in the Navy and physician to three presidents a week ago and now, he is drunk and pill pusher according to some media outlets. And Pompeo was great...until Trump nominated him. And Ric Grenell was great...until Trump nominated him. It's so obvious. Way too many instances of issues with whatever, just because it was Trump doing the same damn thing they were okay with anybody else doing.  |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 29, 2018 19:36:52 GMT
Completely agree with you, revirdsuba99. It was quite remarkable, though, wasn't it? A really huge step in the right direction and if it continues on that path, that would be beyond amazing. Just can't help the niggling feeling that Un can't be trusted. I agree with this. It seemed that KJU switched gears pretty suddenly and I have to wonder what his intentions are. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 29, 2018 19:39:59 GMT
I, too, was mystified at the lack of discussion over this development, hence me dipping my toe into this thread about it. About as mysterious as what time the sun will rise or set each day. Either one of you are free to start a thread if you want, right? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 20:01:58 GMT
About as mysterious as what time the sun will rise or set each day. Either one of you are free to start a thread if you want, right? It's not the ability to start a thread, it's noticing (who) hasn't said anything about it. But, you knew that.  |
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Post by megop on Apr 29, 2018 23:48:23 GMT
I don't for one second believe this is over or a result of Trump's work.
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Post by DDrumpf on Apr 30, 2018 7:35:46 GMT
KOREAN WAR TO END! The United States, and all of its GREAT people, should be very proud of what is now taking place in Korea!
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Post by DDrumpf on Apr 30, 2018 7:38:18 GMT
I don't for one second believe this is over or a result of Trump's work. Well, I couldn't have done it by myself! Please do not forget the great help that my good friend, President Xi of China, has given to the United States, particularly at the Border of North Korea. Without him it would have been a much longer, tougher, process! |
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