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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 11:04:38 GMT
Here we are, a year and a half since Trump won. Still, many that agree with a position the administration has taken, is called out and criticized or ridiculed for not denouncing Trump's personal behavior. It's unfortunate we've gotten to a point where many feel a need to add a "I didn't vote for Trump" to their replies or signatures. And many of those that say they didn't vote for Trump are called liars. All because they have a different opinion.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 11:16:15 GMT
Absolutely, but that isn’t why he withdrew his name from consideration and that hasn’t been the headline for the last 24 hours. My point is that he was an upstanding Rear Admiral in the Navy and physician to three presidents a week ago and now, he is drunk and pill pusher according to some media outlets. And Pompeo was great...until Trump nominated him. And Ric Grenell was great...until Trump nominated him. It's so obvious. Quoting myself here to add on to the running list of targets. Last week it was full on attack mode of Ronny Jackson (which, by the way, the Secret Service has come out and said they have absolutely no evidence, etc. for anonymous claims Tester took to the press). This week John Kelly's been made the bullseye. It's so obvious. |
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Post by Merge on May 1, 2018 12:15:18 GMT
Here we are, a year and a half since Trump won. Still, many that agree with a position the administration has taken, is called out and criticized or ridiculed for not denouncing Trump's personal behavior. It's unfortunate we've gotten to a point where many feel a need to add a "I didn't vote for Trump" to their replies or signatures. And many of those that say they didn't vote for Trump are called liars. All because they have a different opinion. All I want to know is whether y’all think Trump has the skills to broker this peace. Nothing about his personal behavior. The basic statesmanship skills to do it. But again, rather than answer that very relevant question, you play the persecution card. Again. |
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Post by Merge on May 1, 2018 12:21:50 GMT
And Pompeo was great...until Trump nominated him. And Ric Grenell was great...until Trump nominated him. It's so obvious. Quoting myself here to add on to the running list of targets. Last week it was full on attack mode of Ronny Jackson (which, by the way, the Secret Service has come out and said they have absolutely no evidence, etc. for anonymous claims Tester took to the press). This week John Kelly's been made the bullseye. It's so obvious. Three of the four folks you name were being discussed only because they were nominated for important positions. It’s not as if the press is just bringing up a villain of the week. If you can’t refute the concerns that were brought up on merits, but just default to complaining that someone had a concern, what are you really adding to the conversation? Jackson isn’t returning to his old job. Why? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Consider that he is the guy who blatantly lied about Trump’s weight and health status. You really think he’s credible? If he’s willing to lie about something that doesn’t actually affect Trump’s ability to stay in office, what does that say about his character? |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 12:48:09 GMT
Here we are, a year and a half since Trump won. Still, many that agree with a position the administration has taken, is called out and criticized or ridiculed for not denouncing Trump's personal behavior. It's unfortunate we've gotten to a point where many feel a need to add a "I didn't vote for Trump" to their replies or signatures. And many of those that say they didn't vote for Trump are called liars. All because they have a different opinion. All I want to know is whether y’all think Trump has the skills to broker this peace. Nothing about his personal behavior. The basic statesmanship skills to do it. But again, rather than answer that very relevant question, you play the persecution card. Again. My comment was a general statement, a general observation, not about a specific conversation going on here. I chose not to get involved in the NK topic, but I'll put aside the "persecution card" comment and give you my opinion: Trump's language skills are seriously lacking. He's clunky, clumsy, and speaks/behaves like a schoolyard bully at (most) times. When he stays on script (a script written by someone else undoubtedly) he can come across as somewhat presidential. But here's the thing: like most people in the U.S., I no doubt believe other world leaders don't know what to make of him either, don't know what direction he's going in, what kind of action, or inaction, he's going to take. I think this uncertainty, at least in part, has contributed towards the potential for peace on the peninsula. I am cautiously optimistic. Do I think Trump's some smooth negotiator? Ummm, no. But I don't think the fact that this has moved this far under Trump should be dismissed. For whatever reason(s), KJU has chosen now. KJU likes to hang out with Rodman, so maybe Trump's right up his alley, lol. I'm taking a seize the moment, work with what we have, and maybe things will advance attitude. |
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Post by Merge on May 1, 2018 13:15:10 GMT
All I want to know is whether y’all think Trump has the skills to broker this peace. Nothing about his personal behavior. The basic statesmanship skills to do it. But again, rather than answer that very relevant question, you play the persecution card. Again. My comment was a general statement, a general observation, not about a specific conversation going on here. I chose not to get involved in the NK topic, but I'll put aside the "persecution card" comment and give you my opinion: Trump's language skills are seriously lacking. He's clunky, clumsy, and speaks/behaves like a schoolyard bully at (most) times. When he stays on script (a script written by someone else undoubtedly) he can come across as somewhat presidential. But here's the thing: like most people in the U.S., I no doubt believe other world leaders don't know what to make of him either, don't know what direction he's going in, what kind of action, or inaction, he's going to take. I think this uncertainty, at least in part, has contributed towards the potential for peace on the peninsula. I am cautiously optimistic. Do I think Trump's some smooth negotiator? Ummm, no. But I don't think the fact that this has moved this far under Trump should be dismissed. For whatever reason(s), KJU has chosen now. KJU likes to hang out with Rodman, so maybe Trump's right up his alley, lol. I'm taking a seize the moment, work with what we have, and maybe things will advance attitude. Fair enough. Thank you for answering. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 1, 2018 14:31:59 GMT
Jackson isn’t returning to his old job. Why? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Unfortunately the mess with Jackson is not over. Mrs Pence's doctor, in the White House, had several alleged issues with Jackson releasing some things about her health over six months ago. That is a very serious accusation. The Pentagon is considering an investigation. Here's the link: www.cnn.com/2018/04/30/politics/karen-pence-doctor-privacy-ronny-jackson/index.html |
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Post by cadoodlebug on May 1, 2018 14:42:46 GMT
Here we are, a year and a half since Trump won. Still, many that agree with a position the administration has taken, is called out and criticized or ridiculed for not denouncing Trump's personal behavior. It's unfortunate we've gotten to a point where many feel a need to add a "I didn't vote for Trump" to their replies or signatures. And many of those that say they didn't vote for Trump are called liars. All because they have a different opinion. All I want to know is whether y’all think Trump has the skills to broker this peace. Nothing about his personal behavior. The basic statesmanship skills to do it. But again, rather than answer that very relevant question, you play the persecution card. Again. I absolutely think he has the negotiation skills. What he says behind closed doors in a meeting is probably far different from his Twitter rant behavior. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 1, 2018 14:50:28 GMT
I absolutely think he has the negotiation skills. What he says behind closed doors in a meeting is probably far different from his Twitter rant behavior. I soooooooo hope you are right! |
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Post by Merge on May 1, 2018 14:55:12 GMT
All I want to know is whether y’all think Trump has the skills to broker this peace. Nothing about his personal behavior. The basic statesmanship skills to do it. But again, rather than answer that very relevant question, you play the persecution card. Again. I absolutely think he has the negotiation skills. What he says behind closed doors in a meeting is probably far different from his Twitter rant behavior. Thank you for your answer. I have to say, based on his interactions with other world leaders and with our own Congress, his speeches and his ever-changing policy positions, I have serious doubts. Not just based on his Twitter. But honestly, I hope you're right. It would be a great thing for the Korean people and the world at large. |
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Post by #notLauren on May 1, 2018 16:37:47 GMT
It's both. Just like the two thousand anti-Trump threads on this board over the last year and a half. You have lots of places to give your "studied" opinion (which translates to "I hate Trump and nothing he says or does will ever be right")
Why is it so important to you to come on the one conservative thread on this board in order to bash Gia or other conservatives or tout your "I'm right about Trump" mantra? You just can't stand anyone who doesn't buy your party-line and you're intent on trying to destroy or run a thread into the ground if it's not what you believe.
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Post by Merge on May 1, 2018 17:07:02 GMT
It's both. Just like the two thousand anti-Trump threads on this board over the last year and a half. You have lots of places to give your "studied" opinion (which translates to "I hate Trump and nothing he says or does will ever be right") Why is it so important to you to come on the one conservative thread on this board in order to bash Gia or other conservatives or tout your "I'm right about Trump" mantra? You just can't stand anyone who doesn't buy your party-line and you're intent on trying to destroy or run a thread into the ground if it's not what you believe. Did you catch the part where I mentioned that I came over here only because YOU made a snotty comment about us not having started the thread you thought we should have started? |
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Post by #notLauren on May 1, 2018 17:18:21 GMT
No, you said Lauren made a snotty comment; not me.
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Post by delilahtwo on May 1, 2018 17:26:07 GMT
It's both. Just like the two thousand anti-Trump threads on this board over the last year and a half. You have lots of places to give your "studied" opinion (which translates to "I hate Trump and nothing he says or does will ever be right") Why is it so important to you to come on the one conservative thread on this board in order to bash Gia or other conservatives or tout your "I'm right about Trump" mantra? You just can't stand anyone who doesn't buy your party-line and you're intent on trying to destroy or run a thread into the ground if it's not what you believe. Do you not remember all the conservatives who hated everything about Obama? Skybar comes to mind. Who constantly posted on every thread that was remotely political how much she hated him? The trouble with Trump is that there is absolutely no redeeming feature. I feel sorry for you conservatives, anyone would have been better than Trump. You have a horrible person to defend and you are having trouble doing it, I think even most of you think he's awful. |
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Post by Merge on May 1, 2018 17:37:27 GMT
No, you said Lauren made a snotty comment; not me.  |
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Post by Merge on May 1, 2018 17:38:31 GMT
It's both. Just like the two thousand anti-Trump threads on this board over the last year and a half. You have lots of places to give your "studied" opinion (which translates to "I hate Trump and nothing he says or does will ever be right") Why is it so important to you to come on the one conservative thread on this board in order to bash Gia or other conservatives or tout your "I'm right about Trump" mantra? You just can't stand anyone who doesn't buy your party-line and you're intent on trying to destroy or run a thread into the ground if it's not what you believe. Do you not remember all the conservatives who hated everything about Obama? Skybar comes to mind. Lynlam. Aeroforce. Enough. Probably all still here under different names. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 17:58:29 GMT
There's been heavy criticism towards anyone that dares to bring up Obama or HRC, so why bring up Obama?. What does it matter what Skybar, Lynlam, Aeroforce had to say about him way back when? If they were here, and (general) you had a problem with their comments, I'd get it. But what do the long gone have to do with current members and their opinions?
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Post by delilahtwo on May 1, 2018 19:13:55 GMT
There's been heavy criticism towards anyone that dares to bring up Obama or HRC, so why bring up Obama?. What does it matter what Skybar, Lynlam, Aeroforce had to say about him way back when? If they were here, and (general) you had a problem with their comments, I'd get it. But what do the long gone have to do with current members and their opinions? Sorry to have brought it up. But you (general you, conservatives) have a problem with the liberals complaining about and attacking Trump. However, there were some conservatives who viciously attacked Obama for 8 long years. This is normal on the board. Right now, you have a horrible excuse for a human being for president, who claims to be Republican and he's being attacked by the liberals/democrats. This is normal behaviour. I feel sorry for Republicans, it must be very hard to hold your nose and try to stand behind your president who is so awful. At least Obama was (and is) a good man. It's pretty normal on this board to diss the president who is not on your political team. That's all I'm trying (not very successfully) to say. |
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Post by #notLauren on May 1, 2018 19:23:22 GMT
Do you not remember all the conservatives who hated everything about Obama? Skybar comes to mind. Lynlam. Aeroforce. Enough. Probably all still here under different names. Then stick to the multitude of threads in which you can freely bash whatever conservative you choose. Keep your ugliness about conservatives out of this one thread. Have a little decency. If you are capable. |
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Post by #notLauren on May 1, 2018 19:24:20 GMT
There's been heavy criticism towards anyone that dares to bring up Obama or HRC, so why bring up Obama?. What does it matter what Skybar, Lynlam, Aeroforce had to say about him way back when? If they were here, and (general) you had a problem with their comments, I'd get it. But what do the long gone have to do with current members and their opinions? Sorry to have brought it up. But you (general you, conservatives) have a problem with the liberals complaining about and attacking Trump. However, there were some conservatives who viciously attacked Obama for 8 long years. This is normal on the board. Right now, you have a horrible excuse for a human being for president, who claims to be Republican and he's being attacked by the liberals/democrats. This is normal behaviour. I feel sorry for Republicans, it must be very hard to hold your nose and try to stand behind your president who is so awful. At least Obama was (and is) a good man. It's pretty normal on this board to diss the president who is not on your political team. That's all I'm trying (not very successfully) to say. Obama was not a "good" man. I'm sorry you had to hold your nose and try to stand next to that bigot wimp. This country is far better off today than it was under 8 years of him; in every way. |
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Post by chlerbie on May 1, 2018 19:28:37 GMT
Because we tend to stay on our conservative catch-all thread where the Trump haters don't tend to come to bash. Sure, you do, Lauren. |
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Post by #notLauren on May 1, 2018 19:29:25 GMT
Bite me Stephanie. I'll bend over so you can kiss my ass.
And FWIW, call me whatever name you want. I know you do it just to be a c*nt so I don't care anymore.
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Post by chlerbie on May 1, 2018 19:33:15 GMT
Too bitter for my tastes, but thanks anyway.
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Post by #notLauren on May 1, 2018 19:35:31 GMT
I'm sure it's not. Considering what comes out of you're mouth, my ass would be sweet going in. So, again, kiss my ass.
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Post by delilahtwo on May 1, 2018 19:36:22 GMT
Lynlam. Aeroforce. Enough. Probably all still here under different names. Then stick to the multitude of threads in which you can freely bash whatever conservative you choose. Keep your ugliness about conservatives out of this one thread. Have a little decency. If you are capable. You don't keep your ugliness about liberals out of any threads. Your comment on olan's thread was horrid. Your hypocrisy is ridiculous. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 19:44:53 GMT
There's been heavy criticism towards anyone that dares to bring up Obama or HRC, so why bring up Obama?. What does it matter what Skybar, Lynlam, Aeroforce had to say about him way back when? If they were here, and (general) you had a problem with their comments, I'd get it. But what do the long gone have to do with current members and their opinions? Sorry to have brought it up. But you (general you, conservatives) have a problem with the liberals complaining about and attacking Trump. However, there were some conservatives who viciously attacked Obama for 8 long years. This is normal on the board. Right now, you have a horrible excuse for a human being for president, who claims to be Republican and he's being attacked by the liberals/democrats. This is normal behaviour. I feel sorry for Republicans, it must be very hard to hold your nose and try to stand behind your president who is so awful. At least Obama was (and is) a good man. It's pretty normal on this board to diss the president who is not on your political team. That's all I'm trying (not very successfully) to say. I apologize if I misinterpreted the context of your comment. It gets a bit tiring being lumped into and associated with a large group (especially a group that includes members that aren't even here anymore) because of the past behavior of some. Even if there were vicious personal attacks on Obama then (which I certainly didn't participate in and would never condone), I don't think it has to be "normal" here and now. Also, I certainly don't agree with personal attacks against individual members here because of which party they align. I'm not saying you do that, it's been an ongoing observation. |
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Post by #notLauren on May 1, 2018 19:47:32 GMT
I haven't seen that poster do this; but there are a whole lot of people here who do.
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Post by delilahtwo on May 1, 2018 20:20:31 GMT
Sorry to have brought it up. But you (general you, conservatives) have a problem with the liberals complaining about and attacking Trump. However, there were some conservatives who viciously attacked Obama for 8 long years. This is normal on the board. Right now, you have a horrible excuse for a human being for president, who claims to be Republican and he's being attacked by the liberals/democrats. This is normal behaviour. I feel sorry for Republicans, it must be very hard to hold your nose and try to stand behind your president who is so awful. At least Obama was (and is) a good man. It's pretty normal on this board to diss the president who is not on your political team. That's all I'm trying (not very successfully) to say. I apologize if I misinterpreted the context of your comment. It gets a bit tiring being lumped into and associated with a large group (especially a group that includes members that aren't even here anymore) because of the past behavior of some. Even if there were vicious personal attacks on Obama then (which I certainly didn't participate in and would never condone), I don't think it has to be "normal" here and now. Also, I certainly don't agree with personal attacks against individual members here because of which party they align. I'm not saying you do that, it's been an ongoing observation. Thanks devildog |
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Post by DEX on May 1, 2018 20:28:54 GMT
Why is lovetocolor suddenly listed as #not Lauren?? The woman has too many alter ego's. Too many to keep them sorted out.
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Post by Merge on May 1, 2018 20:29:39 GMT
Lynlam. Aeroforce. Enough. Probably all still here under different names. Then stick to the multitude of threads in which you can freely bash whatever conservative you choose. Keep your ugliness about conservatives out of this one thread. Have a little decency. If you are capable. Look around. The only one spewing ugliness here is you. The only one lacking the capacity for decency is you. I haven't told anyone here, ever, to kiss my ass or called them a cunt. That's all you. Is that the kind of discourse your fellow conservatives want on their thread, rather than a liberal discussing issues without profanity? I guess they'll have to answer that. |
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