Shooting at HS in Parkland Florida

If it's not about gun control, the cause(s) need to be figured out nonetheless.  Try.and.solve.the.problem.

I think more gun control is needed.  Many people do not. Some think it's a mental health issue. Or a mix of both.  Some think this would happen if someone if intent on doing it, regardless.    All different points of view with valid or invalid points.  

Yet something needs to be done.  Figure it the hell out.  Nothing is being done between shootings. Nothing.  No discussions of any legislation of any kind to help prevent it.  Do I have the answer?  No.  Ideas , yes.  

It seems to be a thing prevalent in the USA and it is the job of or elected civil servants to try and figure it. It's their job.  It won't go away all by itself.  Ignoring it after offering condolences does nothing. 


If it's not a gun control issue, the problem still needs to be solved.  The end.

16 people (likely mostly children) are dead, who knows how many more to come, and who knows how many wounded. Those are enough facts for me to come to the conclusion that nobody should have a gun capable of enacting that much damage in such a small amount of time. A handgun can't do that. And dollars to donuts, if the shooter turns out to be brown or Muslim, we'll be talking about bans and walls, but not about gun control. 

This is the definition of insanity. 

All of those plus easy access to guns in the home, usually.

As a mother of two high schoolers, I live in fear. My daughters are in far more danger from the boy who snaps and brings dad’s rifle to school one day than from the undocumented kid whose family can’t afford decent clothes, much less a gun. But we’re going to focus all our energy on the undocumented kid.

If stricter gun control won’t help, then why do none of our peer nations have rates of gun violence anywhere approaching ours? 

i heard someone, on a news report this evening, mention 'connecting the dots'

people had said 'if anyone would shoot up a school...it's that kid'

we also need more 'see something, say something'

people don't like to speak up and voice concern

we should start being more proactive about things that concern us - whether we are obligated or not

I watched the coverage for hours. I was so sad. Still am. The shooter is Hispanic FYI for those that think he might’ve white

CNN aired an interview with a student that said everyone in the school knew right away who was responsible. He said they all knew that this student would come back one day and do this. And now he has. If all the kids felt this, I’m sure teachers or aids must have known this too. Where was the help that the shooter should have been forced to accept ?? Bad or sick people will always find the guns or make the bombs. We need to stop the ones we can beforehand, like this sick boy.

Why do people often say they need more facts? Multiple people dead, by a gun, at a school. You can't form opinions on that?! What a cop out to pay lip service to needing more facts. By the time you get whatever other facts you need, there will be another shooting that you can claim you need more facts about.

The questions is how do you make someone get help?  He was over 18, and I thought I heard somewhere that he was in foster care as he'd lost his parent(s) (it wasn't clear if it was one or both).  Obviously we have to find a way, just wondering how you make someone get help when there's no one looking out for them (I'm jumping to conclusions a bit, maybe he did have someone to turn to and that person failed him as well, we don't know yet)

I thought he had red hair and freckles ?

They need to know what their excuse is going to be for why stricter gun laws won't be helpful.  

I don't think that I was being condescending, and it seemed to me that I was agreeing with you, for the most part?  I will be more aware of not responding to your posts.  I don't think that I single you out or even pay attention to who is posting what most of the time.  I don't know your stance on much other than guns.