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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 28, 2018 3:54:32 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 28, 2018 3:57:54 GMT
American Bar Association calls on Judiciaru Committe to halt Kavanaugh vote until FBI Investigation is done!! I was just coming to post this. I wonder what this will mean. I can’t imagine all the Republicans are ok with this man, there has to be one who has the sense to see it would a terrible injustice to force this through without a true and proper investigation. I came back to fix my typing................ bold mine............. It's been a long day and I am not a typist!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 28, 2018 3:58:21 GMT
Kavanaugh is a liar.
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 28, 2018 4:06:57 GMT
Dr. Ford didn’t have any evidence at all. Judge Kavanaugh had all kinds of evidence. I’m going with the most evidence. Innocent until proven guilty! That’s the law if you are a man or a women! What were these "all kinds of evidence?" paminmn , are you inclined to answer my question?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 28, 2018 4:09:32 GMT
lizacreates did you see about the American Bar Association?
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 28, 2018 4:14:42 GMT
lizacreates did you see about the American Bar Association? Yes, I did, thank you. Unfortunately, I don't think it'll change anything. I'll tell you what will work: If either Collins or Murkowski steps up and says enough is enough, let's get the president to order an FBI investigation. We're not voting until we get one.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 28, 2018 4:16:40 GMT
Sexual assault hotline says it saw record number of calls during Kavanaugh hearingBY MORGAN GSTALTER - 09/27/18 08:43 PM EDT The National Sexual Assault Hotline said it received an “unprecedented” spike in users Thursday as Christine Blasey Ford testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee about her alleged assault by Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. The Rape Abuse and Incest National Network (RAINN) tweeted there was an estimated jump was an estimated 147 percent above normal volume. thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/408878-sexual-assault-hotline-says-it-saw-record-number-of-calls
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 28, 2018 4:21:57 GMT
I'll tell you what will work: If either Collins or Murkowski steps up and says enough is enough, let's get the president to order an FBI investigation. We're not voting until we get one. If they hear about before 9:30am tomorrow.
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 28, 2018 4:35:09 GMT
I'll tell you what will work: If either Collins or Murkowski steps up and says enough is enough, let's get the president to order an FBI investigation. We're not voting until we get one. If they hear about before 9:30am tomorrow. That's the time for committee vote? Even if Flake votes no in committee, we're still not out of the woods. Even if Kavanaugh is defeated in committee, McConnell can still bring it to the floor for full senate vote. We need ALL Dems (with 2 independents caucusing as Dems) to band together in unity - that means red-state Dems as well - Heitkamp, Manchin, Donnelley have to vote no. Those three are worrying me. AND then on top of Flake's defection, we need either Collins or Murkowski. If Flake doesn't vote no, we will need both women Repubs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 4:39:59 GMT
They wouldn't be if more young people would VOTE! I know someone got reprimanded upthread here or on another thread for bringing up age of the senators but I found myself (no spring chicken) saying out loud to myself today, "we need to get those old people out". and then I checked myself for being ageist. Then I realized it wasn't the age as much as the out.of.touch. Some of them have been there so long with little reaching out to or experiencing the current "real world" that they are stuck in a rut (or time warp) resistant to any change. Cuz I've witnessed some hip and in-the-know old people that have some really good ideas. They are out there experiencing things and listening to (gasp!) young people even! Some of those in congress aren't. Stuck in the year of their election maybe? ETA all the young'uns 'round here are primed and ready to vote. Get the old ones OUT!!! There is NOTHING ageist about that. It is about being REPRESENTATIONAL!! The median age of the Senate is 61! The median age of the country is 37.8! It's ridiculous that too many millennials and others don't vote and let the voices of the past make the decisions of where this country (AND WORLD!) will go (or won't). We are moving into a world of climate change, AI, automation the likes of which we've never seen. THOSE WHO WILL LIVE IN THAT WORLD FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS SHOULD MAKE THE DECISIONS ABOUT IT. (imo)
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 28, 2018 4:46:27 GMT
If they hear about before 9:30am tomorrow. That's the time for committee vote? Even if Flake votes no in committee, we're still not out of the woods. Even if Kavanaugh is defeated in committee, McConnell can still bring it to the floor for full senate vote. We need ALL Dems (with 2 independents caucusing as Dems) to band together in unity - that means red-state Dems as well - Heitkamp, Manchin, Donnelley have to vote no. Those three are worrying me. AND then on top of Flake's defection, we need either Collins or Murkowski. If Flake doesn't vote no, we will need both women Repubs. Right. Full Senate Vote is scheduled for noon on Saturday. Hopefully they will stop it in the morning.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 4:48:00 GMT
In all my 58 yrs, I've never known politics to be the cess-pit it is now. I'm sick to death of my own country's politics, the handling of Brexit etc, but I just feel like I want t to wash my hands every time I listen to American politics now. America IS a great country and you deserve so much better than the circus you have at the moment . No we don't. THIS is what we voted for (or couldn't be bothered to vote against). In a democracy, you get the government you deserve!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 4:49:50 GMT
I just caught a few clips. The woman was calm and rationale. The not-guilty, wanna be Supreme Court Justice was overly emotional and out-of-control. If he can't contain himself at a hearing, I don't think he has the disposition to be a Supreme Court Justice. Fighting for your life and reputation creates a vastly different disposition than simply doing your job does. To predict that his behavior during a normal everyday occurrence will be the same as his behavior and reaction during a catastrophic life event is ludicrous.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 4:52:47 GMT
I certainly think Democrats holding onto the info is a problem BUT that has NOTHING to do with getting AT THE FACTS of what happened between Ford and Brett! It quite possibly could, though.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 28, 2018 4:54:04 GMT
We are moving into a world of climate change, AI, automation the likes of which we've never seen. Congress has been unable to do anything about the internet issues and all that stuff.. Hey, I do pretty good with my computer, I don't have a smart phone. Finally gave up my flip phone a few years ago. I grew up pre TV. Phone, 'number please?', Some of those old white men need to go.... I did!
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Post by dewryce on Sept 28, 2018 4:59:57 GMT
That's the time for committee vote? Even if Flake votes no in committee, we're still not out of the woods. Even if Kavanaugh is defeated in committee, McConnell can still bring it to the floor for full senate vote. We need ALL Dems (with 2 independents caucusing as Dems) to band together in unity - that means red-state Dems as well - Heitkamp, Manchin, Donnelley have to vote no. Those three are worrying me. AND then on top of Flake's defection, we need either Collins or Murkowski. If Flake doesn't vote no, we will need both women Repubs. Right. Full Senate Vote is scheduled for noon on Saturday. Hopefully they will stop it in the morning. I think what she is saying that it really won't be stopped tomorrow morning. McConnell will bring it to the floor if he wants to, which all indications say he does, regardless of the results of the vote. So unless the world flips upside down overnight, the floor vote will take place Saturday.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 28, 2018 5:04:38 GMT
Right. Full Senate Vote is scheduled for noon on Saturday. Hopefully they will stop it in the morning. I think what she is saying that it really won't be stopped tomorrow morning. McConnell will bring it to the floor if he wants to, which all indications say he does, regardless of the results of the vote. So unless the world flips upside down overnight, the floor vote will take place Saturday. But they will have to deal with it all day tomorrow.... Who knows what pressures will be handed out...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 5:08:00 GMT
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 28, 2018 5:10:49 GMT
His belligerence reeked of entitlement. I thought that his performance was appalling. Having said that, I will be surprised if he is not confirmed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 5:11:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 5:13:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 5:34:11 GMT
And it's really annoying me that those 3 witnesses' statements saying 'I don't have any recollection' is being held up to mean 'it didn't happen' because they are NOT the same thing, at all. It's also not confirming that it did happen, so they aren't very good witnesses.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 5:47:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 5:50:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 5:56:39 GMT
It isn't like there aren't plenty of other qualified women or men who could fill this seat who haven't had the issues this man has had. Until they try to fill this seat, then the issues will come out of the woodwork.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 5:59:10 GMT
Have to say, watching Sixteen Candles again a few years ago made me want to vomit and made me so glad I didn't try to watch it w/the kids. I remembered it as cute and harmless but it was disgusting and made fun of sex w/an unconscious woman. I was the same age as Dr. Ford in the 80's. THEY SUCKED. Kids today DEMAND better. Good on them! www.vox.com/culture/2018/9/27/17906644/sixteen-candles-rape-culture-1980s-brett-kavanaugh"Sixteen Candles isn’t a college sex romp like Revenge of the Nerds or Animal House. It’s a high school love story. It’s been celebrated for 34 years for its sweet, romantic heart. Yet it is entirely willing to feature a lengthy, supposedly hilarious subplot in which a drunk and unconscious girl is passed from one boy to another and then raped. The drunk girl in question is Caroline (Haviland Morris), the girlfriend to romantic hero Jake Ryan, and if you know one thing about Sixteen Candles, it’s that Jake Ryan (Michael Schoeffling) is perfect. He is the impossibly cool, impossibly beautiful senior guy who is dating the impossibly beautiful senior girl — and yet as soon as Jake Ryan hears that gawky, awkward sophomore Samantha (Molly Ringwald) has a crush on him, he immediately begins to like her back, defying all the laws of God, man, and high school popularity. Jake Ryan is the embodiment of a fantasy so compelling it instantly made Sixteen Candles iconic: What if the object of all your romantic high school dreams decided to pursue you without you having to expend any effort whatsoever, just because they could see that you were, like, deeper and more special than the rest of the school? What if they somehow saw that without you ever having to have a conversation or interact with them in any way? “Jake stands the test of time,” wrote Hank Stuever in the Washington Post in 2004. He quotes a 34-year-old woman who grew up on Jake Ryan: “Oh, gosh, Jake Ryan. Just thinking about it now, I get … kind of … It’s all just too good to be true.” Jake Ryan’s reputation as the ideal dream boy of every teenage girl’s deepest fantasies has lasted for decades. Jake, writes Stuever, “is Christ, redeeming the evil sins of high school. Jake as the ideal. Jake as the eternal belief in something better.” Yet Jake Ryan cold-bloodedly hands a drunk and unconscious Caroline over to another guy and says, “Have fun.” In 1984, you could be a perfect dream boy and also be an accessory to date rape. They were not mutually exclusive ideas. In fact, they reinforced each other. "
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 6:00:36 GMT
I keep wondering what is going to happen with the other allegations against Kavanaugh. Will there be another hearing? Are those allegations going to be ignored? I think as far has the confirmation hearings go they'll be ignored. The women could bring criminal charges against him if they want to though...
They really should.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 6:12:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 6:23:51 GMT
It isn't like there aren't plenty of other qualified women or men who could fill this seat who haven't had the issues this man has had. Until they try to fill this seat, then the issues will come out of the woodwork. Really? What were the issues dragged out for Neil Gorsuch? Well other than the fact he was given a stolen seat. What personal issues did they drag out about him?
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