flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 28, 2018 23:31:33 GMT
What? No! Check back with Mom and come back here and let us know what's what, ok? She said CNN, and so far the only thing I've found on the site is this, which is not anything like what she heard. Which makes tons more sense. I don't trust The WH occupants as far as I can throw them, but they didn't make up these rules so they seemed...shocking, to say the least. I am trying to read other articles but the site keeps reloading itself. One of the reasons I rarely use them as a source, cause I can't get the dang site to load! The Show she was watching was on between 4-6cst. I plan on checking that out next. Even though I detest watching the news shows. Did anyone happen to catch it and can save me from the agony? It was The Situation Room best I can tell. I had it on but wasn’t listening carefully enough to be able to say if they did or didn’t say it.
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Sept 28, 2018 23:36:14 GMT
I saw this on fb and it was posted by a professor from Stanford I believe....maybe the senate should show this to the gop. Guys ask why women are so pissed off. Even guys with wives and daughters. Jackson Katz, a prominent social researcher, illustrates why. He's done it with hundreds of audiences: "I draw a line down the middle of a chalkboard, sketching a male symbol on one side and a female symbol on the other. Then I ask just the men: What steps do you guys take, on a daily basis, to prevent yourselves from being sexually assaulted? At first there is a kind of awkward silence as the men try to figure out if they've been asked a trick question. The silence gives way to a smattering of nervous laughter. Occasionally, a young a guy will raise his hand and say, 'I stay out of prison.' This is typically followed by another moment of laughter, before someone finally raises his hand and soberly states, 'Nothing. I don't think about it.' Then I ask the women the same question. What steps do you take on a daily basis to prevent yourselves from being sexually assaulted? Women throughout the audience immediately start raising their hands. As the men sit in stunned silence, the women recount safety precautions they take as part of their daily routine. Hold my keys as a potential weapon. Look in the back seat of the car before getting in. Carry a cell phone. Don't go jogging at night. Lock all the windows when I sleep, even on hot summer nights. Be careful not to drink too much. Don't put my drink down and come back to it; make sure I see it being poured. Own a big dog. Carry Mace or pepper spray. Have an unlisted phone number. Have a man's voice on my answering machine. Park in well-lit areas. Don't use parking garages. Don't get on elevators with only one man, or with a group of men. Vary my route home from work. Watch what I wear. Don't use highway rest areas. Use a home alarm system. Don't wear headphones when jogging. Avoid forests or wooded areas, even in the daytime. Don't take a first-floor apartment. Go out in groups. Own a firearm. Meet men on first dates in public places. Make sure to have a car or cab fare. Don't make eye contact with men on the street. Make assertive eye contact with men on the street.” "Don't dress too sexy" "Don't smile at strangers" ― Jackson Katz, The Macho Paradox: Why Some Men Hurt Women and How All Men Can Help (The first man to minor in women's studies at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst, holds a master's degree from the Harvard Graduate School of Education, and a Ph.D. in cultural studies and education from UCLA.) Found this over at TEDTalks, pretty impactful:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 23:36:46 GMT
Just saw a report that what is to be investigated by the FBI will be determined by the WH and they will report DIRECTLY back to the WH...not the committee! Trump totally controls what is discovered.
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 28, 2018 23:40:20 GMT
Just saw a report that what is to be investigated by the FBI will be determined by the WH and they will report DIRECTLY back to the WH...not the committee! Trump totally controls what is discovered. Well that excitement was short-lived. Someone must have explained to Trump what actually happened today.
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MizIndependent
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Quit your bullpoop.
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Post by MizIndependent on Sept 28, 2018 23:41:36 GMT
Just saw a report that what is to be investigated by the FBI will be determined by the WH and they will report DIRECTLY back to the WH...not the committee! Trump totally controls what is discovered. I'm actually not surprised by this. Both the Republicans and the Democrats are desperate for this Supreme Court seat...it will shape the country for at least the next 30 years.
Sadly, character seems to be falling second to attaining that goal.
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 28, 2018 23:43:10 GMT
Just saw a report that what is to be investigated by the FBI will be determined by the WH and they will report DIRECTLY back to the WH...not the committee! Trump totally controls what is discovered. Where can we find this? All I know is the judiciary committee cannot question him anymore in a hearing because he'd been voted out of committee.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 28, 2018 23:48:49 GMT
Just saw a report that what is to be investigated by the FBI will be determined by the WH and they will report DIRECTLY back to the WH...not the committee! Trump totally controls what is discovered. Well that excitement was short-lived. Someone must have explained to Trump what actually happened today. I think I read that when trump agreed to have FBI involved, he limited it to only what has already been reported/publicized—meaning no new women/info...
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 28, 2018 23:53:38 GMT
Is there anyone here who can provide the source?
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Post by dewryce on Sept 28, 2018 23:55:56 GMT
Well that excitement was short-lived. Someone must have explained to Trump what actually happened today. I think I read that when trump agreed to have FBI involved, he limited it to only what has already been reported/publicized—meaning no new women/info... That's not an investigation. At least, not a meaningful one. lizacreates I did not realize that. So, while I appreciate very much what Senator Flake did in demanding the FBI investigation, it seems he also set what could be impactful limitations on how we can proceed. I scoured CNN and could not find more to corroborate what my mom and allipeas reported. Only the quote I previously posted and the terms "limited scope" and "only 1 week" repeatedly mentioned. Could only find a clip from The Situation Room, not the full episode, and it's not addressed. Hopefully someone on the West Coast is watching.
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casii
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Post by casii on Sept 28, 2018 23:56:48 GMT
I've read through it all. Watched transfixed with many of you. Relived my own experience and have been highly stressed the past couple of days.
Unfortunately my father has chosen Kavanaugh as his golden calf, so I finally sat down and wrote out my story for him and my sisters and hit send. No response yet, but he's been known to publicly have facebook meltdowns when he feels we've been disobedient, so I told my children no to engage should their grandfather lash out, but be prepared. I was in grade school. It was the oldest son of family friends who were there for a visit. I have no proof, but rest assured, it happened.
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 28, 2018 23:58:36 GMT
Well that excitement was short-lived. Someone must have explained to Trump what actually happened today. I think I read that when trump agreed to have FBI involved, he limited it to only what has already been reported/publicized—meaning no new women/info... That's true, which is fine because that covers Ford, Ramirez and Swetnick.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 29, 2018 0:01:16 GMT
I've read through it all. Watched transfixed with many of you. Relived my own experience and have been highly stressed the past couple of days. Unfortunately my father has chosen Kavanaugh as his golden calf, so I finally sat down and wrote out my story for him and my sisters and hit send. No response yet, but he's been known to publicly have facebook meltdowns when he feels we've been disobedient, so I told my children no to engage should their grandfather lash out, but be prepared. I was in grade school. It was the oldest son of family friends who were there for a visit. I have no proof, but rest assured, it happened. We believe you, and I'm so very sorry. I hope writing and sending your experience turns out to be somewhat cathartic for you and the backlash is minimal.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 0:01:24 GMT
Just saw a report that what is to be investigated by the FBI will be determined by the WH and they will report DIRECTLY back to the WH...not the committee! Trump totally controls what is discovered. I'm actually not surprised by this. Both the Republicans and the Democrats are desperate for this Supreme Court seat...it will shape the country for at least the next 30 years.
Sadly, character seems to be falling second to attaining that goal.
I swear, I just want the truth. Not some political laced hack job...just the truth no matter what it is.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 29, 2018 0:04:13 GMT
I think I read that when trump agreed to have FBI involved, he limited it to only what has already been reported/publicized—meaning no new women/info... That's true, which is fine because that covers Ford, Ramirez and Swetnick. For potential victims it gives them more to work with than just Ford, which is great. But no new information? That's the antithesis of an investigation. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 0:05:09 GMT
I've read through it all. Watched transfixed with many of you. Relived my own experience and have been highly stressed the past couple of days. Unfortunately my father has chosen Kavanaugh as his golden calf, so I finally sat down and wrote out my story for him and my sisters and hit send. No response yet, but he's been known to publicly have facebook meltdowns when he feels we've been disobedient, so I told my children no to engage should their grandfather lash out, but be prepared. I was in grade school. It was the oldest son of family friends who were there for a visit. I have no proof, but rest assured, it happened. I hope and pray they will look past their political ideologies and see YOU. BIG (((hugs))))).
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Post by papersilly on Sept 29, 2018 0:05:16 GMT
I say this to DH everyone I hear BK speak!!!! it's Glenn! SNL will has to hire him for their opening skits
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 0:07:04 GMT
CNN Here it is. Hope this works. I am technically dyslexic!
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 29, 2018 0:11:40 GMT
That's true, which is fine because that covers Ford, Ramirez and Swetnick. For potential victims it gives them more to work with than just Ford, which is great. But no new information? That's the antithesis of an investigation. What do you mean no new information? Nothing I've read says anything like that.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 29, 2018 0:14:16 GMT
so I finally sat down and wrote out my story for him and my sisters and hit send. Sorry you had to go through that! ((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 29, 2018 0:19:51 GMT
Okay. The WH will limit the SCOPE; it will NOT dictate the questions. So, right now we do not know if it will include Ramirez and Swetnick. SarahHS will probably clarify that. The WH will get the results (which is standard because the FBI is in the Exec branch) and THEN share them with members of the committee. So, nothing to panic about.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 29, 2018 0:21:38 GMT
For potential victims it gives them more to work with than just Ford, which is great. But no new information? That's the antithesis of an investigation. What do you mean no new information? Nothing I've read says anything like that. The person you quoted said no new women/info.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 29, 2018 0:23:15 GMT
CNN Here it is. Hope this works. I am technically dyslexic! Worked fine, thanks!! I'll watch later! I had CNN on but a neighbor stopped in to visit and I turned it down. But not so bad, we had a great chat!! When she left she said it was great to have a good political talk!! Good to know I have to have real talk with!!
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 29, 2018 0:25:33 GMT
What do you mean no new information? Nothing I've read says anything like that. The person you quoted said no new women/info. Lol. We've probably had too much in one day. I was quoting you. Never mind. In any case, no such report says "no new information." At least not in the dozens I've already read.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 29, 2018 0:29:23 GMT
Okay. The WH will limit the SCOPE; it will NOT dictate the questions. So, right now we do not know if it will include Ramirez and Swetnick. SarahHS will probably clarify that. The WH will get the results (which is standard because the FBI is in the Exec branch) and THEN share them with members of the committee. So, nothing to panic about. I haven't finished the video, Preet just finished speaking, so perhaps it's answered later. Are they required to pass on all information they receive from the FBI, or do they have discretion to pass on only what they feel is pertinent? My concern, of course, is that the administration has not proven to be trustworthy. Something that stands out for me is when they censored both their feed and transcript from the Russian Summit to remove the question about whether Putin wanted Trump elected.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 29, 2018 0:32:29 GMT
The person you quoted said no new women/info. Lol. We've probably had too much in one day. I was quoting you. Never mind. In any case, no such report says "no new information." At least not in the dozens I've already read. Yes, way too much for one day. Beer's on me tonight. I have never had a beer in my life, and I have a drink maybe 2 times a year. But tonight, I feel it is both appropriate and necessary. To clarify, I meant the original person you quoted.
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 29, 2018 0:32:59 GMT
Okay. The WH will limit the SCOPE; it will NOT dictate the questions. So, right now we do not know if it will include Ramirez and Swetnick. SarahHS will probably clarify that. The WH will get the results (which is standard because the FBI is in the Exec branch) and THEN share them with members of the committee. So, nothing to panic about. I haven't finished the video, Preet just finished speaking, so perhaps it's answered later. Are they required to pass on all information they receive from the FBI, or do they have discretion to pass on only what they feel is pertinent? My concern, of course, is that the administration has not proven to be trustworthy. Something that stands out for me is when they censored both their feed and transcript from the Russian Summit to remove the question about whether Putin wanted Trump elected. FBI does not make any such determination. Whatever they gather has to be given to the WH. I understand your concern (oh, boy, do I!) but that's the way it works. Now, call Mom and tell her what the truth is. Lol. Tell her some Blue Hair on 2PR says hello.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 29, 2018 0:35:48 GMT
This picture actually gives me a bit of hope. The conflict on Flake's face is so apparent.
Here's a politician who is at least listening to his conscience.
Jeffrey Toobin had high praise for him tonight. Said he had completely changed his opinion on him. I saw a clip of him coming into the room after that experience in the elevator and he truly did look upset. But then didn't he continue to vote to move forward? I think he has a conscience, but I also think that he is conflicted on whether he should follow it or the Republican party.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 0:39:14 GMT
I specially want to address those peas that keep saying BK is fighting for his life. I was so very lucky that my attacker received a life sentence. He has gone on to commit three more sexual assaults while in prison, by the way. The truth is that he could have been given the death penalty and I would still not be made whole. He took my sense of security, the feeling of being safe in this world. No matter what debt he repays, I will NEVER get this back. NEVER! To this day, I cannot sleep in darkness. I have a very difficult time sleeping alone in the house. There were many, many years AFTER the trial that I suffered with sleeping problems because I was afraid to fall asleep. I hear you and my heart aches for you and all of the victims that have shared their painful experiences and destroyed bits of life. No one should have to go through that and anyone that destroys anyone in that way should be removed from society permanently, though I do understand it still won't give you back what was taken from you. I'm so sorry for your pain. I totally agree with you and want to assure you that isn't what I was doing.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 29, 2018 0:39:53 GMT
I haven't finished the video, Preet just finished speaking, so perhaps it's answered later. Are they required to pass on all information they receive from the FBI, or do they have discretion to pass on only what they feel is pertinent? My concern, of course, is that the administration has not proven to be trustworthy. Something that stands out for me is when they censored both their feed and transcript from the Russian Summit to remove the question about whether Putin wanted Trump elected. FBI does not make any such determination. Whatever they gather has to be given to the WH. I understand your concern (oh, boy, do I!) but that's the way it works. Now, call Mom and tell her what the truth is. Lol. Tell her some Blue Hair on 2PR says hello. LOL, already did! I mean does does the White House have the discretion as to what to pass on from the FBI to the SJC, or are they required to send all gathered information? I still trust the FBI
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Rhondito
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Post by Rhondito on Sept 29, 2018 0:40:54 GMT
He's going to sandbag any evidence that supports her claim..
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