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Post by mrssmith on Sept 30, 2018 15:23:25 GMT
Check out the opening ofSaturday Night Live tonight........... Worth it! I can’t stop laughing to myself about “I’m gonna start at an 11...and I’m gonna take it to about a 15 REAL QUICK!” The opening gave me some much needed laughter after a tough week. "I'm a keg half-full kinda guy."
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Post by hop2 on Sept 30, 2018 15:27:58 GMT
Dan Rather : 2 hrs · News is what the powerful want to keep hidden. By limiting the scope of the FBI investigation on Kavanaugh, the White House is daring the press to shed more light on what's lurking in the shadows. I expect my colleagues will not disappoint. Hold on to your hats. the clock is ticking ....
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Post by quinlove on Sept 30, 2018 15:36:15 GMT
I can’t stop laughing to myself about “I’m gonna start at an 11...and I’m gonna take it to about a 15 REAL QUICK!” The opening gave me some much needed laughter after a tough week. "I'm a keg half-full kinda guy." Loved it so much. Spot on. I just kept hoping he would do the thing with his tongue. That was super annoying - but sadly comical.
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Post by moodyblue on Sept 30, 2018 15:40:15 GMT
Matt Damon nailed Kavanaugh. It was a much-needed laugh.
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Post by pyccku on Sept 30, 2018 15:58:16 GMT
Dan Rather : 2 hrs · News is what the powerful want to keep hidden. By limiting the scope of the FBI investigation on Kavanaugh, the White House is daring the press to shed more light on what's lurking in the shadows. I expect my colleagues will not disappoint. Hold on to your hats. Yeah, this is the crazy thing. The very first unit in my newspaper/journalism class this year was about the freedoms and the responsibilities of the press. It took 2 seconds for the kids to come to the conclusion that the people who fear a free press are those who are corrupt and trying to keep it hidden. We talked about Watergate and how Woodward & Bernstein investigated until they found the truth. We talked about how they never once got anything from the White House itself, but through following the leads, making phone calls, and not giving up until they had talked to everyone who might be able to help them they were able to break the story.
Every single journalist out there (note that I said journalists - NOT entertainers or pundits) is imagining themselves as the next W&B. They are imagining their names on the byline for the big story that changes the course of US history. If Trump - or anyone else in the government - thinks that the press isn't salivating at the thought of exposing whatever they find, they're bonkers. This is like waving a red flag at a bunch of bulls, then realizing that you aren't calling enough attention to the topic so you get an even bigger red flag and try to attract a few more bulls.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 30, 2018 16:37:08 GMT
Every single journalist out there (note that I said journalists - NOT entertainers or pundits) is imagining themselves as the next W&B. They are imagining their names on the byline for the big story that changes the course of US history. If Trump - or anyone else in the government - thinks that the press isn't salivating at the thought of exposing whatever they find, they're bonkers. This is like waving a red flag at a bunch of bulls, then realizing that you aren't calling enough attention to the topic so you get an even bigger red flag and try to attract a few more bulls. We can hope!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 17:39:56 GMT
I'm sure it was some nut job. This is not mainstream thinking. Kind of like the Pizza Gate nut jobs on your side. I went to look this claim up because our resident troll Ricky/Izzy frequently lies and constantly puts words where no one said them or posts out of context. (She hit the trifecta this time—all 3 are wrapped up in her post!!) I cannot find anything where USA TODAY called/inferred/implies that kavanaugh was a pedophile. In fact, the ONLY place that mentions the “pedophile” verbiage are the following “so called news outlets” —Fox, RT, National aReview, Red State, American Thinker, Chicks on the Right. So...it’s that right wing/conservatives base who is making those ugly, vile insinuations. AGAIN—USA TODAY did not claim (nor use the word) pedophile. There WAS a tweet from a USA Today reporter who made this statement: “The U.S. Senate may yet confirm Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, but he should stay off basketball courts for now when kids are around,” reads the article by a staff sportswriter.” It is a known fact that ANYONE working with kids—teachers, counselors, school staff, coaches, volunteers who have any criminal and/or sexual allegations are temporarily removed from serving in those capacities—they ALWAYS err on the side of caution when it comes to any allegations. This is just not a “picking on kavanaugh thing” NO WHERE did the reporter state or insinuate that he was a pedophile. So ricky/izzys claim is 100% false and irresponsible gaslighting and right wing propaganda bullshit (not surprised though). From the accompanying article in USA Today: "the nation is newly vigilant on who coaches and trains it's children given recent scandals in gymnastics and other sports" and ends the article with "credibly accused sex offenders should not coach youth basketball, girls or boys, without deeper investigation." As we have learned from the too numerous to count allegations of "dog whistles" you don't have to say anything outright or even remotely racist for it to be deemed racist. You also don't have to come out and say the word pedophile to be very clearly insinuating that. But even without the newly minted "dog whistle" rules, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand what the hell the point is they're making in USA today. It wasn't even a dog whistle. They are clear and pointed and unmistakable by anyone with a functioning brain who doesn't have an agenda.
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Post by imsirius on Sept 30, 2018 18:12:33 GMT
Omg..that open was classic! I loved the Alyssa Milano gag too lol..but Damon was perfect!
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Post by PLurker on Sept 30, 2018 18:32:55 GMT
Dan Rather : 2 hrs · News is what the powerful want to keep hidden. By limiting the scope of the FBI investigation on Kavanaugh, the White House is daring the press to shed more light on what's lurking in the shadows. I expect my colleagues will not disappoint. Hold on to your hats. Yeah, this is the crazy thing. The very first unit in my newspaper/journalism class this year was about the freedoms and the responsibilities of the press. It took 2 seconds for the kids to come to the conclusion that the people who fear a free press are those who are corrupt and trying to keep it hidden. We talked about Watergate and how Woodward & Bernstein investigated until they found the truth. We talked about how they never once got anything from the White House itself, but through following the leads, making phone calls, and not giving up until they had talked to everyone who might be able to help them they were able to break the story.
Every single journalist out there (note that I said journalists - NOT entertainers or pundits) is imagining themselves as the next W&B. They are imagining their names on the byline for the big story that changes the course of US history. If Trump - or anyone else in the government - thinks that the press isn't salivating at the thought of exposing whatever they find, they're bonkers. This is like waving a red flag at a bunch of bulls, then realizing that you aren't calling enough attention to the topic so you get an even bigger red flag and try to attract a few more bulls.
isn't the "W" in W&B the one who went from pulitzer prize level reporting to fake news these days as per direction of the WH. It's weird how that kind of thing just happens around trump&comp.
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Post by cade387 on Sept 30, 2018 19:45:10 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 30, 2018 20:53:13 GMT
Excerpt from above posted article.
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Post by lindas on Sept 30, 2018 21:40:31 GMT
Excerpt from above posted article. Clinton was not unjustly impeached over a consensual affair, he was impeached for lying to a grand jury and obstruction of justice. If the person that wrote the article couldn't get that right it gives pause to the accuracy of the rest of it.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 30, 2018 21:46:23 GMT
All I can say in defense is if I and my senators are part of the “gamesmanship,” I have no problem with it. I’m not lying awake at night lamenting how I and my representatives have ruined Washington. At the end of the day, this is politics, with two main parties of divergent values. Rarely shall the two meet, often shall the two joust. If anyone is bothered by how the Democrats are now opposing a lying and belligerent SC nominee, they have to look no farther than themselves to understand why. What’s happening right now is no aberration. It’s a continuation of the hardball tactics the Republican Party saw fit to employ for ten years now. It just galls them that Democrats know how to hardball as well. Denying a president his statutory protected right and privilege to seat a justice was just one part of the loud and ugly obstructionism that birthed and animated the Tea Party. As if the damage wasn’t enough, they saw fit to hand power to Trump, a man who eats gamesmanship for breakfast and regards sexual assault as the privilege of the rich and powerful male. So, no, I'm not going to shame myself for what’s happening now, especially after being accused by a Republican senator of “the most unethical sham” he’s seen in politics. It’s revolting that the man who spewed this was the same man who stood in defiance with his colleagues against everything a Democratic president was constitutionally empowered to do. And then crowed about it. THAT is what I consider THE most unethical sham. Gamesmanship? I say bring it on. So well said!
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Post by dewryce on Sept 30, 2018 21:47:55 GMT
Excerpt from above posted article. Clinton was not unjustly impeached over a consensual affair, he was impeached for lying to a grand jury and obstruction of justice. If the person that wrote the article couldn't get that right it gives pause to the accuracy of the rest of it. I was about to post the same thing about Clinton not being impeached for having the affair, but rather for the lie. However, the impression I had was that the author felt it was unjust because of the way he was set-up. "Unjust" to me is an opinion, and while I don't agree with him (he lied to grand jury, no matter the reason, I'm not okay with that) I don't necessarily think it makes everything else he said inaccurate.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 30, 2018 21:51:47 GMT
@ricky that is such drivel. This has everything to do with kavanaugh opinions that the president is above the law. And that should scare the shit out of every single American. He has lied, he has refused to answer questions, he has been antagonistic. And this is the first supreme Court nominee on I've seen where it has been so ridiculously partisan. A supreme Court judge needs to behave with decorum. They need to treat each case fairly and on it's merits. And did Democrats pull any stunts with Neil gorsuch nomination? Nope. Which should tell you something about this one. I don’t know that it is. I just read a tweet from USA Today that insinuated Kavanaugh is pedophile! Based on evidence? No. Allegations? No. Even a vile rumor? No. What caused them to insinuate such drivel, you ask. He coaches kids basketball. Do you have a link?
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Post by cade387 on Sept 30, 2018 22:16:37 GMT
Clinton was not unjustly impeached over a consensual affair, he was impeached for lying to a grand jury and obstruction of justice. If the person that wrote the article couldn't get that right it gives pause to the accuracy of the rest of it. I was about to post the same thing about Clinton not being impeached for having the affair, but rather for the lie. However, the impression I had was that the author felt it was unjust because of the way he was set-up. "Unjust" to me is an opinion, and while I don't agree with him (he lied to grand jury, no matter the reason, I'm not okay with that) I don't necessarily think it makes everything else he said inaccurate. I agree, which is why I posted it. The idea of a club (which the author was a part of) with this end goal makes sense. It is the checkers/chess discussion.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 30, 2018 23:21:05 GMT
I went to look this claim up because our resident troll Ricky/Izzy frequently lies and constantly puts words where no one said them or posts out of context. (She hit the trifecta this time—all 3 are wrapped up in her post!!) I cannot find anything where USA TODAY called/inferred/implies that kavanaugh was a pedophile. In fact, the ONLY place that mentions the “pedophile” verbiage are the following “so called news outlets” —Fox, RT, National aReview, Red State, American Thinker, Chicks on the Right. So...it’s that right wing/conservatives base who is making those ugly, vile insinuations. AGAIN—USA TODAY did not claim (nor use the word) pedophile. There WAS a tweet from a USA Today reporter who made this statement: “The U.S. Senate may yet confirm Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, but he should stay off basketball courts for now when kids are around,” reads the article by a staff sportswriter.” It is a known fact that ANYONE working with kids—teachers, counselors, school staff, coaches, volunteers who have any criminal and/or sexual allegations are temporarily removed from serving in those capacities—they ALWAYS err on the side of caution when it comes to any allegations. This is just not a “picking on kavanaugh thing” NO WHERE did the reporter state or insinuate that he was a pedophile. So ricky/izzys claim is 100% false and irresponsible gaslighting and right wing propaganda bullshit (not surprised though). From the accompanying article in USA Today: "the nation is newly vigilant on who coaches and trains it's children given recent scandals in gymnastics and other sports" and ends the article with "credibly accused sex offenders should not coach youth basketball, girls or boys, without deeper investigation." As we have learned from the too numerous to count allegations of "dog whistles" you don't have to say anything outright or even remotely racist for it to be deemed racist. You also don't have to come out and say the word pedophile to be very clearly insinuating that. But even without the newly minted "dog whistle" rules, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand what the hell the point is they're making in USA today. It wasn't even a dog whistle. They are clear and pointed and unmistakable by anyone with a functioning brain who doesn't have an agenda. Again, because your reading comprehension sucks/is non-existent —-USA TODAY REPORTER DID NOT INSINUATE THAT—Your right wing reading outlets are the ones ramping that bullshit up. anyone with a brain KNOWS if someone is accused of sexual assault/violence—you keep them the fuck away from children, regardless of who they were accused of assaulting. THAT is not a dog whistle—it fucking common sense. (Cannot believe that even you don’t understand that..but then again....)
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Post by flute4peace on Oct 1, 2018 1:17:40 GMT
@ricky that is such drivel. This has everything to do with kavanaugh opinions that the president is above the law. And that should scare the shit out of every single American. He has lied, he has refused to answer questions, he has been antagonistic. And this is the first supreme Court nominee on I've seen where it has been so ridiculously partisan. A supreme Court judge needs to behave with decorum. They need to treat each case fairly and on it's merits. And did Democrats pull any stunts with Neil gorsuch nomination? Nope. Which should tell you something about this one. I don’t know that it is. I just read a tweet from USA Today that insinuated Kavanaugh is pedophile! Based on evidence? No. Allegations? No. Even a vile rumor? No. What caused them to insinuate such drivel, you ask. He coaches kids basketball. I’m way behind but have to say that that’s ridiculous and out of line. Whoever made that insinuation should be ashamed.
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Post by flute4peace on Oct 1, 2018 1:20:25 GMT
On the entire drinking in HS and college. If Kavanaugh has an issue, I hope it comes out under the FBI investigation. O do have a bit of issue, however, that if excessive drinking occurred during that period of his life, but did not continue over the next three decades, that it is used as the sole blockage of confirmation when we’ve had Presidents of both parties admit to use of alcohol, pot, cocaine and other illegal drugs during same time period. These activities they did to themselves and to me takes away from where primary focus needs to stay and that is did Kavanaugh ever assault/victimize women or not. Just my opinion. I agree with you. If he had owned the behavior, apologized and shown that he had changed his ways, it would have gone a long way towards changing minds. His belligerent denials, under oath, were very telling.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 2:55:15 GMT
I don’t know that it is. I just read a tweet from USA Today that insinuated Kavanaugh is pedophile! Based on evidence? No. Allegations? No. Even a vile rumor? No. What caused them to insinuate such drivel, you ask. He coaches kids basketball. I’m way behind but have to say that that’s ridiculous and out of line. Whoever made that insinuation should be ashamed. Yes it is out of line and they must be ashamed because they deleted the tweet and edited the article.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 1, 2018 3:17:46 GMT
On the entire drinking in HS and college. If Kavanaugh has an issue, I hope it comes out under the FBI investigation. O do have a bit of issue, however, that if excessive drinking occurred during that period of his life, but did not continue over the next three decades, that it is used as the sole blockage of confirmation when we’ve had Presidents of both parties admit to use of alcohol, pot, cocaine and other illegal drugs during same time period. These activities they did to themselves and to me takes away from where primary focus needs to stay and that is did Kavanaugh ever assault/victimize women or not. Just my opinion. I agree with you. If he had owned the behavior, apologized and shown that he had changed his ways, it would have gone a long way towards changing minds. His belligerent denials, under oath, were very telling. I agree with this. I drank quite a bit in college and would totally own that now. I also don't think that him drinking a lot in college means that he drinks a lot now. I rarely drink now. The way he focused on liking beer makes me think that drinking is not a rare occurence for him now, but I don't automatically think it makes him an alcoholic, either. The main reason I think his drinking matters is because he seems to be lying about it, and it could also be an issue of him not remembering something because of being drunk.
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No connections to Yale? "Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh said underoath that he had “no connections” to Yale prior to attending, arguing that hard work and ambition were the sole factors leading him to study at the prestigious institution of higher education. However, that statement is verifiably untrue. In fact, Kavanaugh would be classified as a legacy student, because his grandfather Everett Edward Kavanaugh also attended Yale as an undergraduate student, The Intercept reported on Saturday, sharing an image of a 1928 yearbook..... While none of this necessarily means that Kavanaugh got into Yale unfairly, or that he did not have the required qualifications to attend or succeed, his statement about lacking “connections” is untrue. It’s unclear why the Supreme Court nominee would feel the need to make such a false statement. But as The Intercept reported, this is only one of numerous inaccurate statements the judge has made. He said that drinking was “legal for seniors” during the time in high school when Dr. Christine Blasey Ford has accused of him of drunkenly sexually assaulting her. While drinking was legal for 18 year olds in Maryland at the time, Kavanaugh was still 17 when the alleged assault occurred." www.newsweek.com/kavanaugh-said-he-had-no-connections-yale-he-was-legacy-student-1145286What was that upthread about lying under oath?!?!?
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 1, 2018 4:33:20 GMT
No connections to Yale? "Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh said underoath that he had “no connections” to Yale prior to attending, arguing that hard work and ambition were the sole factors leading him to study at the prestigious institution of higher education. However, that statement is verifiably untrue. In fact, Kavanaugh would be classified as a legacy student, because his grandfather Everett Edward Kavanaugh also attended Yale as an undergraduate student, The Intercept reported on Saturday, sharing an image of a 1928 yearbook..... While none of this necessarily means that Kavanaugh got into Yale unfairly, or that he did not have the required qualifications to attend or succeed, his statement about lacking “connections” is untrue. It’s unclear why the Supreme Court nominee would feel the need to make such a false statement. But as The Intercept reported, this is only one of numerous inaccurate statements the judge has made. He said that drinking was “legal for seniors” during the time in high school when Dr. Christine Blasey Ford has accused of him of drunkenly sexually assaulting her. While drinking was legal for 18 year olds in Maryland at the time, Kavanaugh was still 17 when the alleged assault occurred."www.newsweek.com/kavanaugh-said-he-had-no-connections-yale-he-was-legacy-student-1145286What was that upthread about lying under oath?!?!? The statement that drinking was legal for 18 year olds when he was a senior is factual incorrect. It was true for the class ahead of him, but Kavanaugh turned 18 in Feb 1983. The drinking age Maryland was raised to 21 in 1982, before he turned 18. Those born before June 30, 1964 were grandfathered in, but he was born after that date. If you are lying about the little things that are easy to fact check, your credibility is gone as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 1, 2018 6:43:02 GMT
I’m way behind but have to say that that’s ridiculous and out of line. Whoever made that insinuation should be ashamed. Yes it is out of line and they must be ashamed because they deleted the tweet and edited the article. USA TODAY did the responsible thing, unlike all your right wing reading outlets —they edited the story because they saw what the right wing outlets were stating—those right wing rags using the term pedophile, when it was NEVER stated by USA TODAY to begin with, nor did their reporting intend to imply that. The article was edited and tweet removed to further clarify that it was NOT what the reporter said/meant in the first place. They as well have received threats of violence against the reporters too. Funny that your hypocritical bullshit is so one sided. You harping on USA Today (who didn’t say what you right wingers have tried to say they did, and who actually were being responsible and publicly clarified) yet not once have you denounced or criticized all the right wing outlets who did and continue to perpetuate the pedophile lies and bullshit. You attempt to bash/discredit anything you deem as liberal, yet cannot and will not hold any conservative/Republican view that is absolutely in the wrong accountable for the same or worse. Where’s your outrage and contempt for Fox, RT, National Review and other right wing news? Where’s your denouncing them as “they should be embarrassed” at their reporting—those who actually DID and WERE using the term pedophile? You are so one dimensional and right wing biased that you are blind to the facts and truth. But then again, everyone knows you’re a troll who from day one of your ALT ID creation was for the sole purpose of spreading lies, misinformation, right wing talking points, sowing discord, bashing liberals, lying, and spreading the poison that you do every time you post.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 1, 2018 12:43:27 GMT
Yes it is out of line and they must be ashamed because they deleted the tweet and edited the article. USA TODAY did the responsible thing, unlike all your right wing reading outlets —they edited the story because they saw what the right wing outlets were stating—those right wing rags using the term pedophile, when it was NEVER stated by USA TODAY to begin with, nor did their reporting intend to imply that. The article was edited and tweet removed to further clarify that it was NOT what the reporter said/meant in the first place. They as well have received threats of violence against the reporters too. Funny that your hypocritical bullshit is so one sided. You harping on USA Today (who didn’t say what you right wingers have tried to say they did, and who actually were being responsible and publicly clarified) yet not once have you denounced or criticized all the right wing outlets who did and continue to perpetuate the pedophile lies and bullshit. You attempt to bash/discredit anything you deem as liberal, yet cannot and will not hold any conservative/Republican view that is absolutely in the wrong accountable for the same or worse. Where’s your outrage and contempt for Fox, RT, National Review and other right wing news? Where’s your denouncing them as “they should be embarrassed” at their reporting—those who actually DID and WERE using the term pedophile? You are so one dimensional and right wing biased that you are blind to the facts and truth. But then again, everyone knows you’re a troll who from day one of your ALT ID creation was for the sole purpose of spreading lies, misinformation, right wing talking points, sowing discord, bashing liberals, lying, and spreading the poison that you do every time you post. I wish some of the people here were as discriminating with their right wing media as they were with the "rest" of the media. There are a few here who will find any way to discredit anything that doesn't go along with their agenda, even if it is true.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 1, 2018 12:53:07 GMT
Let's see (some but not limited to.)
Lied about connections to get into Yale. Lied about legal drinking age in Maryland. (18 was legal in DC at the time) Lied about excessive drinking. Lied about Devil's Triangle, and other entries in his HS bio! Lied about Renata ... His supposed friend.... Lied about possession/usage of stolen documents. Lied about possible sexual assault.
Not so equal are they?
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Post by annabella on Oct 1, 2018 13:48:23 GMT
I heard a clip this morning with comments Senators had made regarding why they don't believe Dr. Ford. One person said her testimony can't be believed when she can't remember other details such as how she got home that night.
I went to Peru 10 years ago and recently read on a facebook group someone ask how to get to Machu Picchu and someone said train + bus. I remember taking the train only because there were dancers on the train who wore scary masks. I have no recollection of taking a bus afterwards. I wasn't drunk. I only remember the ride to the airport in Lima because my friend asked me to pay her parents $50 for gas. But I don't remember them picking us up at the airport when we arrived or sitting next to my friend on the plane. I have lots of memories of what I saw and experienced in Peru, but these minor details of how I got from point A to B I don't remember. So I can imagine a woman who was attacked 35 years ago, is not going to remember minor details that happened afterwards of how she got home.
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