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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 23:24:12 GMT
How many "job interviews" have you had where they accuse you of attempted rape, cause your family to be threatened with death, get smeared in the press, declare your guilt without due process and make people think of you as a potential pedophile. Can I ask you something in all sincerity ricky? You have been respectful to me and I am asking you this to have a dialogue between me and you. Do you believe Dr. Ford was assaulted? If you don’t, I respect that is your opinion. I can move on from that. I still don't know who to believe at this point. So many things that discredit and so many things that bolster each side. I am, I have stated over and over again that I would like for their to be an investigation.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 23:29:12 GMT
Exactly, because it was at a hearing about the accusations that he got emotional -not at a job interview. A confirmation hearing is a job interview for SCOTUS. The confirmation hearings and the sexual assault hearing are two different things. One is to confirm or deny him the bench, the other is to make determinations on the sexual assault accusation.
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 1, 2018 23:35:59 GMT
How many "job interviews" have you had where they accuse you of attempted rape, cause your family to be threatened with death, get smeared in the press, declare your guilt without due process and make people think of you as a potential pedophile. Can I ask you something in all sincerity ricky? You have been respectful to me and I am asking you this to have a dialogue between me and you. Do you believe Dr. Ford was assaulted? If you don’t, I respect that is your opinion. I can move on from that. But if you believe her...then why is it a stretch to believe she remembers with clarity that it was Brett? Much like Ford, I waited in a closet (I should share an incredible power of prayer about this) listening for the attacker to leave. I have very little recollection of how I got out of the apartment. Evidently I went to the neighbors and called the police. But before I called the police, I called my aunt that raised me. I must have told her someone just attacked me and she told me to hang up and call 911. I have no memory of making these calls. I was shocked my aunt showed up a few minutes after the police until she grabbed me and told me that I had called her. My attack happened in May of 1992 and I can still very clearly see his face. A face that I saw for a split second before he punched me in the cheek and put a pillowcase over my head. There are certain smells and sounds that will immediately remind me of that horrific time. I am open to the FBI findings, as long as they are fair and impartial. Can you be? Thank you for relating your experience so eloquently.
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 1, 2018 23:37:31 GMT
It doesn’t matter that there are dozens of jurists of better temperament and morals than Kavanaugh. The reason Trump chose him and refuses to withdraw his nomination is simply because Kavanaugh believes a sitting president should not be indicted or prosecuted. Kavanaugh will be his bro in the SC. Trump will stick by him especially now that Cohen and Manafort are spilling their guts to Mueller. The mere fact that Kavanaugh dodged Feinstein’s question as to whether a president has to respond to a subpoena is enough to cement Trump’s loyalty. It’s the Faustian bargain of quid pro quo. It really is that simple. I think that I should just follow you around the pod and click “like” whenever you post.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 23:54:28 GMT
How many "job interviews" have you had where they accuse you of attempted rape, cause your family to be threatened with death, get smeared in the press, declare your guilt without due process and make people think of you as a potential pedophile. I remember a woman who sat calmly, and answered questions thoroughly and thoughtfully, during an 11-hour ordeal in which several people accused her of murdering servicemen overseas. I remember a woman who didn't flinch when a political opponent threatened to jail her without due process on live television, who had to listen to that opponent accusing her of multiple crimes in his rallies and leading the chant to "lock her up," and who had been accused in the media of running a child sex ring out of a pizza parlor. I remember when she got a little heated in a speech and referred to some of the people supporting her opponent as 'deplorables,' and the right lost its collective mind. Can you imagine if she had thrown a tantrum like Kavanaugh did during the Benghazi hearings or at any time before or afterward? I'm guessing you wouldn't have excused it away, oh poor Hillary, as you're doing with him. Maybe examine why that is. Discussion, speculation and determination of his guilt before anything has been proven abounds on this board. Which is fine, everyone should be allowed to have their opinion, but then any speculation or discussing of unanswered questions, contradictions and things that leave you scratching your head, pertaining to her is not acceptable and you lose your collective mind. Maybe examine why that is, yourself.
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Post by lizacreates on Oct 1, 2018 23:54:35 GMT
I think that I should just follow you around the pod and click “like” whenever you post. Kind of you to say…thanks. However, I’ll bet anyone who watched days 3 and 4 of his confirmation hearing (the Q&A parts) figured it out straight away. It was that obvious.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 23:56:39 GMT
imsirius Thank you but the real heros are Dr. Ford and the two ladies who stopped Flake in the elevator. Putting everything on the line in front of the world. I am in awe of their courage. We are all linked together. I can only hope it has not been in vain. I appreciate and respect your opinion but I will say I disagree with you. It is going to take all of us to fight this. People often disregard things they see in the media as something that happens to "other people," but learning of an assault on a women they know personally makes a great impact. Countless different layers of support and change are needed and I don't think one is necessarily more important than the next. I agree with you....we ARE stronger in numbers!
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Post by scrappinmama on Oct 2, 2018 0:04:20 GMT
How many "job interviews" have you had where they accuse you of attempted rape, cause your family to be threatened with death, get smeared in the press, declare your guilt without due process and make people think of you as a potential pedophile. Can I ask you something in all sincerity ricky? You have been respectful to me and I am asking you this to have a dialogue between me and you. Do you believe Dr. Ford was assaulted? If you don’t, I respect that is your opinion. I can move on from that. But if you believe her...then why is it a stretch to believe she remembers with clarity that it was Brett? Much like Ford, I waited in a closet (I should share an incredible power of prayer about this) listening for the attacker to leave. I have very little recollection of how I got out of the apartment. Evidently I went to the neighbors and called the police. But before I called the police, I called my aunt that raised me. I must have told her someone just attacked me and she told me to hang up and call 911. I have no memory of making these calls. I was shocked my aunt showed up a few minutes after the police until she grabbed me and told me that I had called her. My attack happened in May of 1992 and I can still very clearly see his face. A face that I saw for a split second before he punched me in the cheek and put a pillowcase over my head. There are certain smells and sounds that will immediately remind me of that horrific time. I am open to the FBI findings, as long as they are fair and impartial. Can you be? Thank you for sharing your story.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 2, 2018 0:34:32 GMT
ETA2: his 6 background checks only went back to 1993... Now THAT'S interesting. "the FBI has conducted six full field background investigations going back 25 years to 1993." So he could very well have cleaned up his act when he KNEW the FBI would be looking at him... A former FB agent stated somewhere said that they do not go back to the beginning for the next background check unless something has come up. They are consecutive, picked up where they left off, or possibly a few years back and then forward.
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 2, 2018 0:52:24 GMT
I think that I should just follow you around the pod and click “like” whenever you post. Kind of you to say…thanks. However, I’ll bet anyone who watched days 3 and 4 of his confirmation hearing (the Q&A parts) figured it out straight away. It was that obvious. It was indeed. But you write better than most.
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Post by jayfab on Oct 2, 2018 1:13:00 GMT
How many "job interviews" have you had where they accuse you of attempted rape, cause your family to be threatened with death, get smeared in the press, declare your guilt without due process and make people think of you as a potential pedophile. I remember a woman who sat calmly, and answered questions thoroughly and thoughtfully, during an 11-hour ordeal in which several people accused her of murdering servicemen overseas. I remember a woman who didn't flinch when a political opponent threatened to jail her without due process on live television, who had to listen to that opponent accusing her of multiple crimes in his rallies and leading the chant to "lock her up," and who had been accused in the media of running a child sex ring out of a pizza parlor. I remember when she got a little heated in a speech and referred to some of the people supporting her opponent as 'deplorables,' and the right lost its collective mind. Can you imagine if she had thrown a tantrum like Kavanaugh did during the Benghazi hearings or at any time before or afterward? I'm guessing you wouldn't have excused it away, oh poor Hillary, as you're doing with him. Maybe examine why that is. Spot fricking on!!!
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Post by megop on Oct 2, 2018 2:00:42 GMT
And yet only one President for all and look at jerk we got. From my chair the alternative wasn’t without “cream of the crop” issues of her own. They can do better, we can do better. At least I still hope so. Can you imagine if either one of the last presidential candidates faced the Judicial Committee? Egads, what a shit show. ETA: And I’m lost as to a solution of that beyond we the people banding together across ideology and demanding better. We've already begun. Everyone is welcome in the resistance. Several prominent Republicans have already joined. I truly don't mean that in a snarky way. I hope you'll consider this a warm invitation and not a recrimination. In the current political climate, with a warped version of the GOP led by a crazy man in power, I believe that demanding better means voting in a change in power. Our current system is binary, so I believe that means voting for Democrats, even if their fiscal ideology is not what you might prefer. Once we have rid ourselves of the crazy wing of the GOP, then we can go back to being the loyal opposition with two valid parties. We can go back to being reasonable people who disagree about some things. We can't do that as long as our country is controlled by people who do not see reason. (You may recall that Clinton faced multiple investigations, including 11 hours of questioning and character assassination that turned up no evidence of wrongdoing, so please forgive me if I don't buy the "both candidates were equally bad" narrative. They weren't.) Thank you for your thoughtful post and invitation Merge. I always enjoy your posts. I don't consider it a recrimination at all. And I agree with you regarding the warped version of the GOP. I don't even recognize the party I worked so hard for back in the day. Please know, even when my paycheck came not from a candidate or elected official but from the party itself, I did not vote straight ticket in any election. Not one. I think there has only been one off year election that it just so happened I did so based on persons running. I have no issue toward voting across party lines or even third party for that matter. Just to be clear, I should go back and read, but I don't think I stated I found Clinton "equally bad." If I did, that is certainly not what I meant to say. She certainly was the lessor of two evils from my chair, but I still had enough reasons why I didn't want to vote for her either. I certainly will join you in resisting DC as it is functioning now and there is no way in Hell I would even consider casting a vote for Trump. Couldn't do it before, most certainly will not EVER. This does not, however, translate in an automatic vote for the Democratic Presidential nominee the next go around either. I also extend an invitation to you to consider perhaps another option of resistance. It may not viably present itself the next go around, but the possibility could arise and that is of an independent centrist. The reason I bring this up as an option is because I go back to the 1980 election between Reagan and Carter. John Anderson left the party to run as an independent and if I recall correctly in the summer prior to the election he was polling at capturing around 23-25% or so of the popular vote. While I certainly agree with you for someone to actually win a seat in Congress or the White House, they would have to be from one of the traditional parties as many voters (actually a great majority of voters I think) believe a third party vote is a waste. And ultimately that did happen to Anderson as he lost support as the election drew nearer. However, I submit a transparent, charismatic (sane) third party centrist (taking pieces and portions from both platforms) could be a game changer in forcing both parties to behave better and shift more toward center and meaningful compromise provided they gain enough of a following. Interjecting the possibility of a dark horse influencing beyond the base vote of the two powerhouses could disrupt to the point of them actually paying attention to the top center of the bell curve of voter ideology. I fully admit, it is hard for me to subscribe to the notion of voting for the "lessor of two evils" with a sole eye on the "win." I've always held that my voting responsibility is not so much for the win, but for me to vote what and who I believe in no matter the outcome. I know, pretty Pollyanna thinking, but that is who i am, or at least who I've been. Perhaps this will change for 2018-2020 because I am certainly fed up with the entire lot of them now and could see myself take a stance of not voting for any incumbent as a matter of principle so my vote represents my current belief that they all have forgotten what a sacred honor it is to hold public office and they should behave as such in their verbiage, actions and conduct. I'm just trying to hang in there and not throw my hands up in lost hope that nothing short of catastrophe will get our political system back on a working track. [/quote]
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Post by Merge on Oct 2, 2018 2:02:44 GMT
I remember a woman who sat calmly, and answered questions thoroughly and thoughtfully, during an 11-hour ordeal in which several people accused her of murdering servicemen overseas. I remember a woman who didn't flinch when a political opponent threatened to jail her without due process on live television, who had to listen to that opponent accusing her of multiple crimes in his rallies and leading the chant to "lock her up," and who had been accused in the media of running a child sex ring out of a pizza parlor. I remember when she got a little heated in a speech and referred to some of the people supporting her opponent as 'deplorables,' and the right lost its collective mind. Can you imagine if she had thrown a tantrum like Kavanaugh did during the Benghazi hearings or at any time before or afterward? I'm guessing you wouldn't have excused it away, oh poor Hillary, as you're doing with him. Maybe examine why that is. Discussion, speculation and determination of his guilt before anything has been proven abounds on this board. Which is fine, everyone should be allowed to have their opinion, but then any speculation or discussing of unanswered questions, contradictions and things that leave you scratching your head, pertaining to her is not acceptable and you lose your collective mind. Maybe examine why that is, yourself. My response was to what you said about his behavior in the face of accusation, contrasted with her behavior in the face of the same. Nothing to do with discussion or speculation.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 2, 2018 2:04:29 GMT
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Post by megop on Oct 2, 2018 2:10:23 GMT
Well I really messed up my last post apparently as my response "merged" with Merge's post I was quoting. Sorry about the hard reading. I'll try and go back and fix.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 2, 2018 2:11:31 GMT
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 2, 2018 2:12:15 GMT
Well I really messed up my last post apparently as my response "merged" with Merge's post I was quoting. Sorry about the hard reading. I'll try and go back and fix. Quoting feature messes up more frequently—It’s been happening for over a week now!!
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Post by megop on Oct 2, 2018 2:15:09 GMT
Well I really messed up my last post apparently as my response "merged" with Merge's post I was quoting. Sorry about the hard reading. I'll try and go back and fix. Quoting feature messes up more frequently—It’s been happening for over a week now!! Well that makes me feel better. I was like dang, I need to get my glasses checked or something. Ugg. Thanks Papercrafteradvocate!
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Post by dewryce on Oct 2, 2018 2:18:11 GMT
Well I really messed up my last post apparently as my response "merged" with Merge's post I was quoting. Sorry about the hard reading. I'll try and go back and fix. When you are replying/editing there are two tabs at the bottom 'Preview' and 'BBCode'. Select the BBCode tab and look for "[/quote]" Move the entire phrase from where it is (at the end of your comments) to right after Merge's comments. i will often start typing in the quote box without realizing it and can't just click out of it.
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Post by megop on Oct 2, 2018 2:28:04 GMT
Well I really messed up my last post apparently as my response "merged" with Merge's post I was quoting. Sorry about the hard reading. I'll try and go back and fix. When you are replying/editing there are two tabs at the bottom 'Preview' and 'BBCode'. Select the BBCode tab and look for " " Move the entire phrase from where it is (at the end of your comments) to right after Merge's comments. i will often start typing in the quote box without realizing it and can't just click out of it. I'll give it a try. Thanks! ETA: Dang, it messed up again on this one. Giving it a try then giving up. LOL. ETAA: Fixed and fixed. You are a Rockstar! Thank you so much.
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Post by Merge on Oct 2, 2018 2:56:57 GMT
Well I really messed up my last post apparently as my response "merged" with Merge's post I was quoting. Sorry about the hard reading. I'll try and go back and fix. It's OK - I saw your post up in there with mine. Just now getting back to respond. I agree with you that a viable third party is needed, and I hope with you that the day will come soon. We're just not there yet. I grew up around conservatives, I'm married to a conservative, and I live in Texas. The resident Republican supporter in our neighborhood is a very nice elderly man who came by and invited me to his national night out picnic tomorrow evening. I don't think conservatives are evil and I think the two sides need each other for this country to succeed. I guess for now, while a viable third party is a future hope, I'd like to think that each of us can vote for the best, most sane candidate regardless of party. I think there are candidates out there on both sides - and even some incumbents - who show inklings of true bipartisanship. I think that's where we start. For my part, I have decided to vote for the moderate Republican incumbent for the state house. Her policy preferences don't align exactly with mine, but she favors no further restrictions on abortion and letting people pee where they want, and in Texas, that's pretty darn moderate. I think she can be talked around to a more liberal stance on public education. And I have to say that the Democratic challenger seems a wee bit unhinged. So, yeah. (And I'll say that my fervent hope is that Beto is right, and Texas will lead the way on this. Our state is the future of this country in so many ways.)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 3:23:16 GMT
Discussion, speculation and determination of his guilt before anything has been proven abounds on this board. Which is fine, everyone should be allowed to have their opinion, but then any speculation or discussing of unanswered questions, contradictions and things that leave you scratching your head, pertaining to her is not acceptable and you lose your collective mind. Maybe examine why that is, yourself. My response was to what you said about his behavior in the face of accusation, contrasted with her behavior in the face of the same. Nothing to do with discussion or speculation. I think their situations are vastly different and not at all comparable. She didn't receive death threats, her children and grandchildren didn't receive death threats. Totally different accusations in that none of hers destroy her reputation in the way that she is considered okay to banish from society. And some are so comically absurd that to consider them a threat to her reputation is asinine, so none of her situations would produce a reaction anywhere near or comparable to someone that has been accused of something that you would be removed from society for.
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Post by Merge on Oct 2, 2018 3:32:57 GMT
My response was to what you said about his behavior in the face of accusation, contrasted with her behavior in the face of the same. Nothing to do with discussion or speculation. I think their situations are vastly different and not at all comparable. She didn't receive death threats, her children and grandchildren didn't receive death threats. Totally different accusations in that none of hers destroy her reputation in the way that she is considered okay to banish from society. And some are so comically absurd that to consider them a threat to her reputation is asinine, so none of her situations would produce a reaction anywhere near or comparable to someone that has been accused of something that you would be removed from society for. Death threats against Hillary: www.google.com/amp/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/jasonaleopold/this-is-how-the-secret-service-reacted-to-threats-against-hiAgainst both Hillary and Chelsea: www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/world-news/hillary-chelsea-get-death-threats-26101251.htmlShe was accused of being directly and personally responsible for the deaths of Americans in Benghazi - both in the public sphere and on this board. She and her husband were regularly accused, without any evidence, of murdering several people right here in the US. You don’t think those things had an impact on her reputation? They were so widely believed that people refused to vote for her because of them. And yes, the whole point of the “lock her up”’ chants was to say that people thought she had committed a crime for which she should be removed from society. Are you telling me now that was all a big joke? Please don’t minimize any of that in your attempt to apologize for Kavanaugh. Again, if she had reacted to her accusers the way he has, she would have been laughed out of serious contention for any public office.
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Post by mom26 on Oct 2, 2018 3:53:23 GMT
I am sure I will regret weighing in on this, but here goes....
Whether Ford was truthful or Kavanaugh was, the damage goes far beyond whoever wins in this current battle for power.
The very foundation of our constitution - on which this amazing country was built - has been shredded beyond recognition and I fear we will never, ever recover.
Blame the Dems, blame the Reps. Doesn't matter. Politics has become a blood sport and the blood is on everyone's hands.
The only way to change the course of our nation's imminent death is to stop demanding political blood at any cost. Stop hating each other over ideological differences. Common ground is easy to find, if you step out of the echo chambers and truly want to find it.
Lincoln said it best:
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
It seems Lincoln may have been right. We're doing more damage to ourselves and America than any terrorist group could ever hope to.
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Post by elaine on Oct 2, 2018 3:56:31 GMT
I think their situations are vastly different and not at all comparable. She didn't receive death threats, her children and grandchildren didn't receive death threats. Totally different accusations in that none of hers destroy her reputation in the way that she is considered okay to banish from society. And some are so comically absurd that to consider them a threat to her reputation is asinine, so none of her situations would produce a reaction anywhere near or comparable to someone that has been accused of something that you would be removed from society for. Death threats against Hillary: www.google.com/amp/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/jasonaleopold/this-is-how-the-secret-service-reacted-to-threats-against-hiAgainst both Hillary and Chelsea: www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/world-news/hillary-chelsea-get-death-threats-26101251.htmlShe was accused of being directly and personally responsible for the deaths of Americans in Benghazi - both in the public sphere and on this board. She and her husband were regularly accused, without any evidence, of murdering several people right here in the US. You don’t think those things had an impact on her reputation? They were so widely believed that people refused to vote for her because of them. And yes, the whole point of the “lock her up”’ chants was to say that people thought she had committed a crime for which she should be removed from society. Are you telling me now that was all a big joke? Please don’t minimize any of that in your attempt to apologize for Kavanaugh. Again, if she had reacted to her accusers the way he has, she would have been laughed out of serious contention for any public office. Thank you. I started to type out a response and then decided I didn’t want to waste time looking up links for someone who didn’t care about facts related to Hillary. Of course Hillary, and all the various Clintons (Bill and Chelsea), have received an equal number, if not exponentially more, death and other threats than wannabe Supreme Court Justice Liar Kavanaugh. (And anyone in the field can tell you that lying about your drinking and its impact on your daily life - including memory - is the biggest red flag there is that you have a serious drinking problem).
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Post by elaine on Oct 2, 2018 3:59:14 GMT
I am sure I will regret weighing in on this, but here goes.... Whether Ford was truthful or Kavanaugh was, the damage goes far beyond whatever is decided in this current battle for power. The very foundation of our constitution - on which this amazing country was built - has been shredded beyond recognition and I fear we will never, ever recover. Blame the Dems, blame the Reps. Doesn't matter. Politics has become a blood sport and the blood is on everyone's hands. The only way to change the course of our nation's imminent death is to stop demanding political blood at any cost. Stop hating each other over ideological differences. Common ground is easy to find, if you step out of the echo chambers and truly want to find it. Lincoln said it best: "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."It seems Lincoln may have been right. We're doing more damage to ourselves and America than any terrorist group could ever hope to. Would have a been an epic post if it was posted when Garland was nominated. Now, I’m not buying it at all. Trash talk.
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Post by PeachStatePea on Oct 2, 2018 4:10:18 GMT
I have a question for all who think Kavanaugh has a drinking problem, anger issues and has committed numerous sexual assaults, possibly including organized gang rape of drugged girls in high school.
Brett Kavanaugh has undergone 6 FBI background checks. He has worked as a clerk for the Supreme Court, was on the White House counsel team under George W. Bush and was on the US Circuit Court for 12 years.
None of the issues mentioned above were discovered during any of these background checks or during any job performance reviews while serving in the WH or judicial system. That leads me to conclude the following:
1. The FBI is completely incompetent and unable to discover the most basic personal failings and serious criminal activity of those it investigates even when done by dozens of agents over the course of several years,
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2. Brett Kavanaugh doesn't have a drinking problem or anger issues and isn't guilty of sexual assault, including organized gang rape of drugged girls while in high school.
Which is it? Answer 1 or Answer 2? There is no reasonable Answer 3. Either the FBI completely failed or Kavanaugh is innocent of these accusations.
This is a serious question.
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Post by elaine on Oct 2, 2018 4:17:16 GMT
I have a question for all who think Kavanaugh has a drinking problem, anger issues and has committed numerous sexual assaults, possibly including organized gang rape of drugged girls in high school. Brett Kavanaugh has undergone 6 FBI background checks. He has worked as a clerk for the Supreme Court, was on the White House counsel team under George W. Bush and was on the US Circuit Court for 12 years. None of the issues mentioned above were discovered during any of these background checks or during any job performance reviews while serving in the WH or judicial system. That leads me to conclude the following: 1. The FBI is completely incompetent and unable to discover the most basic personal failings and serious criminal activity of those it investigates even when done by dozens of agents over the course of several years, OR 2. Brett Kavanaugh doesn't have a drinking problem or anger issues and isn't guilty of sexual assault, including organized gang rape of drugged girls while in high school. Which is it? Answer 1 or Answer 2? There is no reasonable Answer 3. Either the FBI completely failed or Kavanaugh is innocent of these accusations. This is a serious question. Or 3. The previous FBI checks only went back to 1993 - after college and high school - and didn’t cover the years that he exhibited gross issues with drinking, anger, and attitudes towards women. I know that the above is true. The previous FBI checks only went back to after he finished law school.
ETA: and now, regardless of accusations, etc., my issues are with Kavanaugh lying to the Senate and on national television about the meaning of those yearbook references and also the possible impact of all that drinking on his memory. I know how alcohol impacts my memory, and I drink a heck of a lot less than Kavanaugh appears to have. I would NEVER testify under oath that I was certain that my memories, while under the influence, were 100% accurate and complete.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 2, 2018 4:26:03 GMT
I have a question for all who think Kavanaugh has a drinking problem, anger issues and has committed numerous sexual assaults, possibly including organized gang rape of drugged girls in high school. Brett Kavanaugh has undergone 6 FBI background checks. He has worked as a clerk for the Supreme Court, was on the White House counsel team under George W. Bush and was on the US Circuit Court for 12 years. None of the issues mentioned above were discovered during any of these background checks or during any job performance reviews while serving in the WH or judicial system. That leads me to conclude the following: 1. The FBI is completely incompetent and unable to discover the most basic personal failings and serious criminal activity of those it investigates even when done by dozens of agents over the course of several years, OR 2. Brett Kavanaugh doesn't have a drinking problem or anger issues and isn't guilty of sexual assault, including organized gang rape of drugged girls while in high school. Which is it? Answer 1 or Answer 2? There is no reasonable Answer 3. Either the FBI completely failed or Kavanaugh is innocent of these accusations. This is a serious question. There is a very reasonable and logical 3. 3. The FBI only went back 25 years. This was reported and could be reason why they did not catch it. His college classmates are stating (and willing to talk to the FBI) that kavanaugh lies about his drinking.
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Post by dewryce on Oct 2, 2018 4:33:50 GMT
I am sure I will regret weighing in on this, but here goes.... Whether Ford was truthful or Kavanaugh was, the damage goes far beyond whoever wins in this current battle for power. The very foundation of our constitution - on which this amazing country was built - has been shredded beyond recognition and I fear we will never, ever recover. Blame the Dems, blame the Reps. Doesn't matter. Politics has become a blood sport and the blood is on everyone's hands. The only way to change the course of our nation's imminent death is to stop demanding political blood at any cost. Stop hating each other over ideological differences. Common ground is easy to find, if you step out of the echo chambers and truly want to find it. Lincoln said it best: "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."It seems Lincoln may have been right. We're doing more damage to ourselves and America than any terrorist group could ever hope to. Let's start with appointing someone who is ethical (honest) and non-partisan to the Supreme Court.
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