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Post by Olan on Mar 9, 2021 5:34:09 GMT
Nordstrom Rack particularly Robin Piccone. She has some t-shirt bikinis that I think check the adult two piece box.
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Post by Olan on Mar 9, 2021 4:41:32 GMT
I doubt there was a discussion when Kate was pregnant about the color or complexion of her child. They have similar hair and skin color. I know for sure it was brought up all through my pregnancies. I have dark olive skin and dark hair and dark eyes and my husband has curly red hair and freckles and green eyes. If I heard one conversation about wondering who the children would resemble, I heard 100. No one care beyond being curious. Almost any woman who is married to someone who is different from her in coloring or size has heard those comments. Almost any? Where do y’all come up with this shit? Seriously?
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Post by Olan on Mar 9, 2021 1:30:09 GMT
The level of manipulation that would require is expert level and pretty sick. No?
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Post by Olan on Mar 9, 2021 0:40:32 GMT
I’m okay if demonstrators decide peacefully protesting is the route they’d like to take.
I’ve found that only Black people get admonished for protesting in less than peaceful ways while white people are given permission to fuck shit up if their college team wins.
My only issue is the lack of organization. It makes no sense to loot a target and leave the police precinct untouched.
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 23:58:15 GMT
the Gold Award as part of GSUSA is not equivalent to the Eagle, it is a different kind of award.. sort of comparing a Nobel prize to a pulitzer.. they are just not in the same ballpark.. though both are the highest awards of a youth organization.these two organizations are very very different in many ways. in the early years of GS, the highest award was Golden Eaglet.. and there were ranks very much like boy scouts. they left that behind and made the program more flexible.. so the troops develop their own interests or at least are able to...so backpacking may be the focus or robotics, or mariner. or service or fun or whatever. Boy scouts are focused on rank.. though you don't have to earn ranks to be part of a troop. The Gold award has been around since the 1980's.. I got the highest award in the 1970's--First Class. Thank you for weighing in.
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 23:52:58 GMT
She was pregnant with Archie, but wanted to commit suicide?! I mean I would have half way of believed it if she said after Archie was born. Diana threw herself down a flight of stairs when she was pregnant with Harry. As a Black woman who wasn’t welcomed into the family a large part of why I walked away is because my parents are dead and the only set of grandparents my future children would have had would have been my ex-partners. One morning I realized how selfish it would be bringing kids into that type of environment and just cried and cried. I bet Meghan had a similar dilemma which contributed to feeling suicidal. Everyone wants the best for their children and when you know you are birthing into a racist shit show I can’t imagine the angst. Another thing to note not giving his parents the pleasure actually prolonged the relationship. We were together for 6 years and it was probably 3 years too long. O and guess who still married a Black woman. His wife looks a lot like me minus our hairstyle choice so I bet his mom can’t believe her luck. 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 23:36:34 GMT
I'm not sure how Olan's comment doesn't flow with the conversation, what on earth? Am I missing something? Her link is about BSA selling art to pay for their sex abuse claims. My post, that she quoted, was about why girls wanted to be eagles because of the money they get from scholarships. BSA isn't the ones giving out all the money. Its colleges. Her OP was about why girls wanted to be Eagles. So I replied the answer that had been given to me. That wasn’t at all what I gathered from your response which is why I went in search of the full picture myself.
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 23:34:27 GMT
And this is why I hesitated before I posted. I thought you were wanting to discuss why girls joined the boys. My bad. I'm not sure how Olan's comment doesn't flow with the conversation, what on earth? Am I missing something? People take great offense to my posting informational links. That’s all I got. Again if you are hesitant or think you know how I’ll respond...stand down. The perspective she provided would not have been missed. And I don’t say that rudely but from an informational stand point.
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 23:26:23 GMT
I can’t imagine what the defense will say to defend this and I hope and pray that there is a conviction. I know it won’t change what happened. There is also no way his sentence will be equal to what he deserves and it won’t fix the systemic racism rampant in the police force (and regular citizens) but for the love of everything holy let him be convicted and serve time for the murder he committed.* Sorry for the massive run on sentence I think part of the defense is that his “technique” is used and sanctioned by the police force. Which is why I am prayerful my ancestors will come up with punishment for Derek Chauvin before the system let’s him walk away. I hope it involves his airway.
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 23:19:56 GMT
Scholarships don't come from BSA tho - they are typically given because the kid earned Eagle. My daughter earned the Gold, and I don't expect any money/scholarships because of it (maybe we are looking in the wrong places!). And it seems there are a very few select Eagle Scout specific scholarships that my son wouldn't be applicable for either (ie, we are not Jewish, he didn't cure cancer through his Eagle project, etc) BUT there may be schools or other institutions that give scholarships because the boy earned Eagle. The BSA has actually going through a huge lawsuit due to sexual misconduct, we've had huge increases in dues because of it. Thanks I thought she was trying to say the award money given to Eagle Scouts is the reason girls weren’t allowed to become ES until recently. So the reason would be a money issue not that they were necessarily trying to keep girls out of the ranks. I read it as the award money comes from BSA.
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 23:16:39 GMT
And this is why I hesitated before I posted. I thought you were wanting to discuss why girls joined the boys. My bad. Your bad? Unsure of what you are trying to say. You posted that the reason for no inclusion is because award money is attached to ES honor. I went to google to see how much the award was so as not to make you responsible for educating me on a topic. I typed in award money+ Boys scouts and hit the news tab to see what I could find. The story is from 5 days ago. It’s an article about how they’ve had to liquidate Rockwell paintings to pay off debts. If ever you feel “hesitant” posting on my threads please know it’s not like I’ll notice if in your hesitation you decide against posting.
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 23:05:26 GMT
My sons are Eagle Scouts. And when everyone was discussing letting girls join and earn their Eagle instead of just staying with Girl Scouts, we were told they didn't want to because so much more scholarship money comes with earning an Eagle vs. Gold Award. I don't know if that is true or not. But I do know my sons were given a bunch of scholarship money because they were Eagles. Money does seem to be an issue with the BSA. www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/boy-scouts-norman-rockwell-paintings-help-pay-sex-abuse-claims/
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 23:01:49 GMT
O Georgia! On the Monday following Bloody Sunday’s 56th anniversary. *bangs head*
I wonder what this generation of people will have to say for themselves when asked “so grandma/grandpa what did you do then” 👁
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 22:42:47 GMT
Knowing there is an equivalent makes me even more mad. Feminists who scream smash the patriarchy all while dying to be the patriarchy make me wanna punch air.
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 22:17:20 GMT
Because you revel in your hate for them. It’s like you get off on it. Then when you’re called out on your bizarre,hateful obsession, you get very defensive. As for your hate of Harry, well, he had the audacity to marry a black woman you despise. Carry on with your hatefest. I don't think this is anything new of her style. She made a comment once about Australia not having a history of bringing in slaves and when I posted links to the truth (including from government websites acknowledging the history of it), she called me an idiot and said I was Olan Thread with those posts: 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/107937/racism-countries?page=2&scrollTo=2960789Whether she's racist or not, I don't know, but she's definitely bloody minded when she decides on an opinion. I missed that thread and just read it. Not sure why there was talk about me being banned or not around but the way that pjaye spoke of me like a troll illustrates what happens when bullying pea behavior goes unchecked around here. No one hesitates in going toe to toe with me about something or so why the hesitation in calling out someone behaving like pjaye often does. This would not be the first time a pea was accused of being my alter. I’m a pea with no history of alters or mincing words. Notice no one accused Gabby of being another pea
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 18:27:29 GMT
How does one benefit from being treated poorly based on the color of their skin? One doesn't. But they have found a way to market every slight and cause, real or imagined, that they have the least little claim to. Racism is bad so don't twist my words. But someone who I assume is a close family member simply wondering what an unborn child might look like - will he or she resemble the mom or dad - isn't something that is automatic racism. Unless you want it to be for some personal benefit - media attention, another cause to champion, etc. There isn't a pregnant couple who hasn't wondered or had a discussion before their baby is born about what the child might look like. Racism is bad? 😂😂 Wow we can tell you’ve got a strong stance. And enough with accusing me of twisting words. You were the one who mentioned personal benefits from experiencing racism. I didn’t place any words in your mouth I simply asked what is the benefit you were speaking of. My favorite thing about 2peas is the quote feature and making sure people have to stand by the words that they feel comfortable typing. My reputation should be one of receipts because there is no need to twist someone’s word. Even coded it’s clear the intent.
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 18:14:18 GMT
So you are saying you don’t believe Meghan when she says she was suicidal pregnant and told she couldn’t seek help for fear of optics? Does that strike you as heartless when you see it worded that way? You gonna answer that question about racism in the UK? Also you mentioned not having seen the interview in it’s entirety....did you see the link of royal commentators who did the same thing? Thoughts? I see that you briefly commented on racism in the UK. Your response was vague care to expound? You said it has no place? But is there space? You are really twisting everything your read Olan. I haven't once said I don't believe what she is saying. For starters I haven't seen the whole interview so it would be impossible for me to comment on a big part of it. What I don't understand (and that isn't the same as not believing her) both Megan and Prince Harry together with Prince William and Kate have done so much in promoting mental health over the years and had had great success and praise for their work, why was it not there for her and why did she not seek help from the organizations that she was working in covering mental health. It's common knowledge that Prince William persuaded Prince Harry to finally seek help ( before he met Meghan) so the contacts must be there for her. The bigger question here is why was it not there for her when she needed it, having taken such an active part in promoting such help. I didn’t twist anything. You’ve quoted me so I’m assuming you can read the “So are you saying” part of the question.
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 18:13:06 GMT
And her treatment by the media? And it going unchecked? That has nothing to do with what I posted. And for the record the media goes unchecked on a lot of shitty biased reporting. You said the coloring comment could be innocent enough and shouldn’t lead anyone to believe Meghan was treated like umm a Black woman and I asked well what about the media and it going unchecked by the family. She was quoted as saying like “..... would lie to protect one another but couldn’t tell the truth to protect me and my husband” Of course the media is often unchecked but if Harry believes it contributed to his mothers death the fact that he couldn’t depend on his very powerful family to at the very least not invite them into the castle....well we can see why he felt he needed to leave to protect his family.
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 18:05:58 GMT
I am sorry I was not more clear about the scope of what I was referring to. I'm talking about feelings and experiences, not constitution and governance. And I do believe there is a lot of value in listening to others about that. Are we now only discussing the racism accusation and not what was covered in the rest of the interview? Sorry my mistake I thought we were discussing all that was said. I admit I've only seen snippets on some of what has been shared on line. Ah right you wanna talk about everything but just like Americans! Sorry I’ll let you get back to telling us the inside scoop from a Brit perspective. All before seeing the interview like those royal commentators
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 17:55:35 GMT
What do you think about racism in the UK? The same as in the rest of the world, there is no place for it here or anywhere else. That’s it?
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 17:55:09 GMT
I imagine “The Firm” could also include the network of royal aides, many of whom personally and professionally prioritize image and/or “their” royal - a network not unlike the Vatican Curia: old guard, hierarchal, tradition-bound, conservative, jockeying, class-conscious. I imagine family members might have much more daily contact with/advice from this network than with actual family members. Related: I would not be at all surprised that racism exists within this structure - family members or aides. Why is it so hard to believe people make offensive - if veiled - comments or innuendo? Isn't it also possible that someone wondered out loud "I wonder what color hair he or she will have?" and now it is being interpreted as being a racist comment. Not every curious thought is rooted in racism but you can certainly turn it that way if it benefits you (them) How does one benefit from being treated poorly based on the color of their skin?
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 17:52:03 GMT
Also related: I can also imagine that seeking emergency mental health treatment within this structure - or even deciding whether to access the help yourself - would be fraught. Again: image, protocol, tradition, media. How could that not create hesitance, indecision, reluctance? This would be a far different situation than morning sickness. Harry has had mental help in the past though and both he and Prive Eilliam and Kate have been championing mental health and how important is is for someone's well being for the last 5 years and more recently over the last year before H & M left they championed another charity they founded. They were very active in promoting it, all four of them. So the help was there and certainly the contacts. So you are saying you don’t believe Meghan when she says she was suicidal pregnant and told she couldn’t seek help for fear of optics? Does that strike you as heartless when you see it worded that way? You gonna answer that question about racism in the UK? Also you mentioned not having seen the interview in it’s entirety....did you see the link of royal commentators who did the same thing? Thoughts? I see that you briefly commented on racism in the UK. Your response was vague care to expound? You said it has no place? But is there space?
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 17:47:35 GMT
I imagine “The Firm” could also include the network of royal aides, many of whom personally and professionally prioritize image and/or “their” royal - a network not unlike the Vatican Curia: old guard, hierarchal, tradition-bound, conservative, jockeying, class-conscious. I imagine family members might have much more daily contact with/advice from this network than with actual family members. Related: I would not be at all surprised that racism exists within this structure - family members or aides. Why is it so hard to believe people make offensive - if veiled - comments or innuendo? Isn't it also possible that someone wondered out loud "I wonder what color hair he or she will have?" and now it is being interpreted as being a racist comment. And her treatment by the media? And it going unchecked?
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 17:43:45 GMT
Offensive? Really? What does what you’ve said have anything to do with someone suggesting you look for an online presence that will give you a different viewpoint. You’ve mentioned not an ounce of racism went into not giving Archie a title but didn’t touch on the shit ton of other accusations of racism and colorism the interview mentioned. What do you think about even the one instance where she describes being asked about the coloring of a child she hadn’t yet given birth to. Listen anyone not acknowledging Meghan being a Black woman contributed to her negative reception should stop lying to themselves. Do note one doesn’t have to be British to have the same knowledge of its inner workings. Pjaye is in Australia and obsessed so you dismissing the idea that the Black community could have an informed opinion about the Meghan and Harry debacle says a lot. Yes, I do find it offensive and insulting when someone from another country tells me to go look on line and benefit from some strangers knowledge about the constitution and governance of my own country. ETA and for the record I haven't watched the whole show so I am not prepared to comment on something that I haven't seen or heard as yet. There have been extract shared on social media regarding Archie's title. It was that and that alone I was commenting on from a constitutional aspect only. What do you think about racism in the UK?
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 17:41:39 GMT
Other countries like to pretend as if America is the only country with a marked history of troubled race relations.
Ummm duh her experience is just as she relayed it because anti-blackness is global lovelies!!!
No one harping on how little Americans know about “the firm” has touched on racism in the UK or even stated an argument that racism isn’t the culprit for them upping and leaving the UK.
What a missed opportunity a Black women in the Royal family was. But better for their family that they can walk away from it all and find real community. The type that will house you when your own family withdraws protection and support.
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 17:25:33 GMT
I would encourage everyone to look online at the responses in the Black community to the interview. Of course there’s diversity of opinion there, because no demographic group al thinks the same. But on the whole, the reactions are very different than what we’re seeing here. I think we could all benefit from seeking out other viewpoints and giving real thought to them and why reactions are so divergent. I find it quite offensive that you should suggest that we, as Brits and others who know how the constitutional Monarchy and the Governance of this country is laid down would benefit from the viewpoints of others online when we're actually pointing out the constitutional anomalies in some of the things Meghan has said. What possible benefit would be gained through their view point when most of them know nothing about the workings of this country? There was not an ounce of racism in the fact that Archie wasn't given a title, not one bit. It's shocking that no one on that production team didn't fact check this, the details are easy to find. Yet, they were quite happy to let it go and share it with others so they could form their own opinion, viewpoint and reactions on something that wasn't true, especially when she linked it to the accusation of racism from one unnamed person. But I guess to do so would not make such sensational viewing figure and would continue perpetuating falsehoods that they so readily accuse the RF of. Offensive? Really? What does what you’ve said have anything to do with someone suggesting you look for an online presence that will give you a different viewpoint. You’ve mentioned not an ounce of racism went into not giving Archie a title but didn’t touch on the shit ton of other accusations of racism and colorism the interview mentioned. What do you think about even the one instance where she describes being asked about the coloring of a child she hadn’t yet given birth to. Listen anyone not acknowledging Meghan being a Black woman contributed to her negative reception should stop lying to themselves. Do note one doesn’t have to be British to have the same knowledge of its inner workings. Pjaye is in Australia and obsessed so you dismissing the idea that the Black community could have an informed opinion about the Meghan and Harry debacle says a lot.
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 15:37:18 GMT
If you don’t see the correlation between the two threads I have no desire to walk you through it. 😀. I love it when people don’t disappoint. You certainly never do. Your predictable nature is one I don’t think any pea would argue with. Anyone reading the threads knows what point I am trying to get across even if you want to feign ignorance
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