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Post by Olan on Nov 9, 2024 0:21:15 GMT
53% of white women voted for Trump. I JUST DON'T GET IT! As others said human rights was my number one issue. There is no scenario that would have made me vote for Trump. Zero, zilch, nada, no way, no how. At this point I am so disgusted by and Republican that voted for Trump. They gave their party to him. At least there are some reasonable Republicans. I like the ones who were voting to save our Democracy. Project 2025 is the fascism handbook. I read Trump's plans for public education. Scary stuff. If half of what he plans takes place, I will quit teaching. The numbers were similar the last time he was elected. And this idea that there are reasonable Republicans cracks me up. He all put called for Pence to be hung and Nancy wasn’t the only person running for her life on January 6th. Republicans don’t give a flying fuck about being reasonable when they support that type of administration. M
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Post by Olan on Nov 9, 2024 0:12:07 GMT
Because folks would rather be seen as good than to actually do the work to be better people. The rest have parents who are first cousins.
Overall I think there is a lot of mediocrity and the desire to blame someone else for those shortcomings. And it never changes because society just keeps being okay with the same type of leadership.
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Post by Olan on Nov 7, 2024 15:29:09 GMT
C&P’d below is a think piece that I thought was a good read.
Of course white America chose Trump—a rapist, a convicted felon, a liar, a treasonist, a fraudster, a demagogue who fans the flames of division and race hate.
But why?
Because this is what a racist capitalist system requires. Trump is the perfect embodiment of an old, familiar narrative. He is an echo of the so-called pioneers of America, who were Europe’s outcasts and refuse: debtors, criminals, society's castoffs, and undesirables desperate to escape the consequences of their miserable lives back home in the Old World.
Trump’s appeal lies in this shared history and the unspoken understanding that his lawlessness and brazen disregard for norms are not deviations but reflections of the founding spirit of white conquest. He represents a lineage that celebrates taking by force, that glamorizes rule-breaking as a way to get ahead, and that justifies violence if it means securing dominance. He embodies the reckless ambition of their ancestors, who claimed ownership over lands that weren’t theirs, who built wealth on the backs of enslaved people, and who believed that might made right.
This is why Trump’s crimes and moral failures don’t deter his supporters. His deviance affirms his legitimacy. To them, he’s not a disgrace but a champion of the same ruthless entitlement that their ancestors wielded.
The lies he tells, the chaos he creates, the fear he sows—these are not flaws in their eyes but battle tactics in the ongoing fight to maintain white supremacy. In Trump, white America sees a reflection of the legacy they are unwilling to disown, a legacy built on theft, oppression, and unearned privilege, masked by myths of manifest destiny and divine right. He is their chosen vessel, their savior, carrying forward a tradition that has always valued dominance over justice, power over decency, and self-interest over the common good.
Trump is their daddy. He's the patriarch who gives them permission to be their worst selves without shame, who strokes their egos and tells them that their entitlement is justified, their ignorance is patriotic, and their cruelty is strength.
He’s the authoritarian father figure they crave because he validates their fears and insecurities, assuring them that they are the rightful heirs to America’s greatness. He gives them permission to blame everyone else—immigrants, Black people, liberals—for their grievances.
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If you’d be so kind as to….disarm the men in your life the whole of society would thank you. I’ve said this before search to find the year and context. It was before the daily school shootings BTW.
Lastly think about the one actionable thing you can do to help a vulnerable population.
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Post by Olan on Jul 22, 2024 0:34:40 GMT
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Post by Olan on Jul 22, 2024 0:32:59 GMT
Commander Biden has nipped snipped and or bit Secret Service on TWENTY FOUR occasions. He left the White House sometime in 2023. I remember coming here to see if anyone made the connection between Genocide Geaux’s mental capacity and the dog issue but nope guess it’s just my conspiracy theory. Wild it took this long if I’m right about when the decline began. Anyway before I sign out remember who Black women were to the 2020 election! Show up show out. Eras tour style!!!
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Post by Olan on Jun 29, 2024 18:24:37 GMT
Seems not! Biden is not perfect and with the present Congress and SCOTUS it is hard to get more done. He has done better then most with his hands tied. Go red? Many more of you and us will be dead! Can you live with that? What demographic could help me come to terms with NOT doing enough and having to live with the consequences? With his hands tied? Is that code for his cognitive abilities declining? Than most? Who is most?
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Post by Olan on Jun 29, 2024 17:32:53 GMT
I was shocked to watch him at the debate, but even more shocked to see how different he looked the next day at a rally. Either way, he has so many people with him with years of experience that I am not going to panic, although I did on Wednesday night! If he has so many people around him why isn’t one a highly skilled occupational therapist? His handlers oughta be ashamed. Anyway I’ve returned to let you know the doom and gloom predictions I had for last election season were premature. Nows the time. Additional predictions…liberals will blame Black people for Trump’s win ignoring the state of Michigan and how adamant the Muslim liberals were that Genocide Geaux was no longer their trusted leader. He played us with the police oversight committee but we have a hard time getting on one accord. I don’t see that being a problem for Muslim Americans. Thatll turn a lot of blue red. O and what do you know! A mediocre undeserving ass white man and everyone is all like no worries guys full trust that the VP will lead our country into continued democracy as Biden continues to leak fluid from his ears 👀reminds me of a Dr. I knew whose entire practice hinged on the Black women in the office maintaining his licensure. The mules of society. Clean up ladies. Perhaps one of the Black jobs don the con was talking about.
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Post by Olan on Aug 16, 2023 3:50:02 GMT
Because I wasn’t clear with my January 6th predictions and instead just left the country let me be really clear this time for I told you so sake…
Black Women are always tasked with cleaning shit up. But whenever it’s time to give a dark skinned woman an opportunity to ACTUALLY lead we instead elect a man whose brain is FOR SURE mush. Georgia is really showing us this. Again.
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Post by Olan on Mar 3, 2023 22:32:11 GMT
From Dictionary.com: verb (used with object) to put to death, especially by hanging, by mob action and without legal authority:In the 19th and 20th centuries, thousands of southern African Americans were lynched by white mobs. to criticize, condemn, etc., in public: He’s been unfairly lynched in the media.Hanging to carry out a lawful execution is NOT lynching. It is repugnant and certainly not something our government should use today, but it is not lynching. Words matter. Sensational but inaccurate headlines are not the way to argue a point that can be made just as readily by the truth. We complain about Fox News and their misrepresentations all the time. We should not accept similar behavior just because the author is making a point we want to be made. A lawful execution? Why were there no sentences handed down when my ancestors were lynched? Some pretty heinous shit has been considered perfectly fine in the eyes of the law you know. And it’s no wonder why. There will always be “good people” who aren’t actually. lynchinginamerica.eji.org/report/Even as lynchings became more frequently deadly, they differed greatly by region. An individual subject to a frontier lynching typically was accused of a crime such as murder or robbery, given some form of process and trial, and hanged without any additional torture or foul play.120 Southern lynchings, on the other hand, were commonly extrajudicial and employed to defend slavery.121 Between 1830 and 1860, Southern mobs killed an estimated 130 white individuals122 and at least 400 enslaved Black people. Most were lynched under suspicion of conspiring to mount a slave uprising—a growing but largely unsubstantiated fear among whites in slaveholding states.123 In addition, Southern lynchings of African Americans were distinct from lynchings of whites, and often featured extreme brutality such as burning, torture, mutilation, and decapitation of the victim.124 Southern lynching took on an even more racialized character after the Civil War. The act and threat of lynching became “primarily a technique of enforcing racial exploitation—economic, political, and cultural.”125 The character of the violence also changed as gruesome public spectacle lynchings became much more common. At these often festive community gatherings, large crowds of whites watched and participated in the Black victims’ prolonged torture, mutilation, dismemberment, and burning at the stake.130 Such brutally violent methods of execution had almost never been applied to whites in America. Indeed, public spectacle lynchings drew from and perpetuated the belief that Africans were subhuman—a myth that had been used to justify centuries of enslavement, and now fueled and purportedly justified terrorism aimed at newly-emancipated African American communities.131 A report published in 1905 explained that In 1906, Edward Johnson, a Black man, was convicted of raping a white woman and sentenced to death by an all-white jury in Chattanooga, Tennessee. His attorneys appealed the case and won a rare stay of execution from the United States Supreme Court. In response, a white mob seized Mr. Johnson from the jail, which had been vacated by the sheriff and his staff, dragged him through the streets, hanged him from the second span of the Walnut Street Bridge, and shot him hundreds of times. The mob left a note pinned on the corpse that read: “To Justice Harlan. Come get your nigger now.”134 Mr. Johnson used his last words to declare his innocence. Nearly a century later, he was cleared of the rape.135 Through lynching, Southern white communities asserted their racial dominance over the region’s political and economic resources—a dominance first achieved through slavery would now be restored through blood and terror.
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Post by Olan on Mar 3, 2023 16:19:22 GMT
Forgot to add the Unitarian Universalist church does a good job of not being too “churchy” while out helping the community.
I hope you find a great organization to donate your time to.
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Post by Olan on Mar 3, 2023 16:09:04 GMT
Bumping so you can see how much excusing you’ve already done for racist politicians. It’s literally the same topics being rehashed and reframed. Some people even have the audacity to switch sides🤨 Again. I marked it old
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Post by Olan on Mar 3, 2023 15:50:19 GMT
Olan, there are many here who could give divorce advice... In fact, IIRC, there was a long thread of just what to do to get things in order before filing---and how to get through those months that just seem to drag on and on and on as a person waits for the courts to hear the divorce case... Thank you. We are in the final stretches of the divorce and I’ve always felt strongly about peas sharing the business of their family members w/o consent so I just opted to pass on the pea advice I could recall. One tip that may not have been mentioned is using USPS Informed Delivery.
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Post by Olan on Mar 3, 2023 15:41:57 GMT
The fact that some on this thread are trying to justify semantics is repulsive. You all know what that old white southern man meant when he said "hanging by a tree". Repulsive? Yep. To be expected? Yep. These are the same women whose ancestors put on their Sunday best to watch life leave Black bodies. Nobody wants to talk about the why of it all either. Just coded language and circles. And history repeating itself.
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Post by Olan on Feb 20, 2023 18:06:18 GMT
Sounds like Civil War chatter. China is probably giddy with excitement😬
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Post by Olan on Feb 20, 2023 17:38:11 GMT
Is it really “layered” though. Most of it is a pretty clean cut story of good and evil no? Whenever I’d post about Jim Crow or how enslaved Africans were treated I got the sense that everyone wanted to shut me up and gloss over what had happened. If you go through my search history I say as much too. I forgot the pea who was introspective enough to acknowledge it was guilt but boy was that eye opening…critical race theory did not shock me because I saw it play out here first. So the real reason you’ve never learned about interment camps because if they taught it in an effective way, it could never happen again. And they don’t want that.
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Post by Olan on Feb 20, 2023 17:31:01 GMT
I have to admit, with all the bumped old threads lately, I almost didn't look and see you had come back! Hi, how are you doing? I wished I could report happy times but it’s on the horizon. Family crap. I contemplated coming back and asking for divorce advice but thought better of it 🤣
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Post by Olan on Aug 14, 2022 13:59:22 GMT
“Also everyone has to pretend to like me. No dissent. My BIL won’t allow for any ransom payments to come from their accounts so at that juncture a Go Fund Me would be in order. Give generously. He will skim from it.”
You are hell😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣! He would absolutely steal from it.
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This summer, my physical therapist and I bonded over our mutual contempt for our now former president. As she kneaded my muscles, the topic of race came up, as it was the peak of the George Floyd protests popping up all over the country. She said, “My brother-in-law, (ironically a cop), used to be very racist, but he changed.” This was intriguing to me, so I asked how that happened, a twinge of hope creeping into my heart that he might have the secret key to help solve our national shame. She said, “My sister decided that they were going to have a Fresh Air Fund kid stay with them.” For those who don’t know, the Fresh Air Fund arranges for kids who live in cities to spend a few weeks in the summer with suburban families who are often, but not always white. The kids are typically Black or Hispanic, and are introduced to typical suburban summer activities like day camps, swimming, and the family vacation etc. Ideally, the Fresh Air kids are paired with suburban children of similar ages. My PT said that his experience of actually getting to know a person of color transformed him. He began to know a real person, not a cardboard emblem of what his parents, the media, and the greater society told him about Black people. Black people became real human beings with real thoughts and feelings just like his. This child became one of his own, and returned to them subsequent summers until he was out of school. So here I am posting an epic-length post that I feel fairly certain that you won’t care about either. That’s OK. I am lately gripped with a need to communicate, to be seen and known. To be known by others, and by you, who view me as a cardboard cutout of a silly and cruel, and oblivious white woman, that you seemingly despise. I do this only for myself and my growth as a human being. To show that I am in fact, real flesh and blood. But the bottom line is I’m done with the back-and-forth derision, I’m done with the spreadsheet-keeping that causes conflict between us. It does nothing to promote better relations between white people and people of color. Because I realize that conflict, that derision is getting us nowhere. That viewing each other as cardboard representations of real live people is a dead-end street and does not promote the transformation that will be required to create true equality in this country. And that is “us” in the 2 Peas sense, but also the “us” of the larger society. I reviewed past posts of mine that I saw were filled with derision toward you. Derision that was a defense I erected at feeling criticized. Derision that I am now ashamed of and offer a genuine apology to you. I’ve been analyzing my habitual reactions to your posts to figure out why I felt criticized, why I found them such personal button-pushers. The pattern seemed to be that you started a thread or reacted to existing threads, linking articles (helpful and thoughtful articles that in a post the other day, you said you did not care that I had that reaction to them.) But then came a dig, then came derision. Derision for what we women of 2 Peas are, where we are in our journey. So how was I interpreting your posts? The best analogy I could come up with is the analogy of a toddler learning to walk. We don’t punish them when they fall down and their walking skills fall short of perfection. We, the women of 2 Peas, are mostly white, mostly economically comfortable and have been safely ensconced in our white privilege for our entire lives. We are where we are in our individual journeys of understanding, acknowledging, and acting, ranging from fairly woke to never gonna get there. I get your message. Kind of. “Wake up white people!” you exhort. But then in the next breath, after inviting us to join you, we fall up short and earn your derision. Jump, you say and in the next breath, you say, that’s not high enough. This is what is known as a double-bind. Double-binds make people feel crazy and paralyzed. It sometimes may take me a while to figure out that a double-bind has become part of communication with another, but when I do, I’m out. I don’t do double-binds. They are harmful to me and it is my right as a human being not to engage in unhealthy ways of communicating. The reality is, each of us has the human right to grow at an intellectual, a psychological and a moral rate at our own pace. And this leaves us open to criticism from Black people who will say this is the cop out of white privilege. But I will use a phrase I detest, because it seems apt. It is what it is. Wishing we are more enlightened than we are is an admirable goal, but we are where we are and getting there may be a life's work, and is definitely not subject to someone else's ideas of what is acceptable. I will read the Black history I want to read on my own timetable, I will choose the Black authors that resonate with me, rather than jumping on the bandwagon of the “white lady in the suburb book club” books that sprang up in the aftermath of the flurry of murders and other aggressions of Black people by cops in the spring and summer. I will read them slowly, savor them, let the unfamiliar messages permeate my body, let myself try to feel an infinitesimal amount of the rage and despair that I will never truly understand, as I do not have that history in my DNA. I will will myself to comprehend the extreme level of frustration and rage evidenced by the writer James Baldwin in Eddie Glaude Jr.’s book “Begin Again” which describes how he saw all the promises of change coming out of the Civil Rights movement in the late 1950s and early 1960s deflate into apathy as white people regrouped and retreated back into their protection of The American Lie that Black people are unequal to white people. I will delight in the poetry and prose of Ross Gay who in his “Catalog of Unabashed Gratitude” delivers the whimsy, the heartbreaking sweetness, and the sudden gut punch that comes from experiences living life as a Black man. Now to address the comments you’ve posted. The thread in which we discussed white women’s roles during the days of slave-owning and I suppose, post-slavery, I asserted that white women of that time who lived within that system did not have the power to dictate, criticize, or make substantive changes in the perverted system of slavery. You listed some references that asserted that indeed, women weren’t just innocent bystanders in a horrific system. I saw your response, and wanted to respond but life got in the way (yes, white privilege) and I never responded. I should have responded, but I didn't. My apologies. It is frustrating to have knowledge you want to convey seemingly ignored and overlooked. I suppose that one can always find the example that differs from the norm, and you did, in spades. Thanks for the information. I learned something. It gave me much to reflect upon. However, in doing some additional reflection up this, it seems to me that beyond the (peano, sit down and shut up warning ahead) examples you came up with, that another insidious role that white women played in the South was the myth that sprang up like a poisoned fruit. The myth of the white woman, the precious, pure flower of the South needing protection from the marauding and raping Black man, in the form of the hangman's noose wielded by men who "needed" to protect her. The idea that nothing more than the flick of her finger meant that Emmett Till (and countless others like him) would be left swinging from a tree, victim of a system built on lies. So, where are we? We are all real people, trying to muddle through our human weaknesses and shortcomings on the way to hopefully becoming better people working for a more just world. We are more complex, my joyous, more angry, more tender than a cardboard cutout. If you have made it this far, thanks for reading. This was the apology a teacher posted.
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Post by Olan on Aug 14, 2022 13:27:23 GMT
This bump means my older thread /topic moves to the top of the thread list. You have to click Olan to see my responses but you won’t find all the woke teacher threads that way. Indignant+revisionist.
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Post by Olan on Jul 25, 2022 15:27:44 GMT
I hope you guys have a great school year! Remember a box of skin tone crayons won’t make your classroom inclusive or anti-racist Elaine.
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Post by Olan on Jun 30, 2022 17:28:23 GMT
Bumping so you can see how much excusing you’ve already done for racist politicians. It’s literally the same topics being rehashed and reframed. Some people even have the audacity to switch sides🤨
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Post by Olan on Jun 30, 2022 14:10:06 GMT
I bet she is really excited to come back and give an update. Especially so she can receive more helpful and heartfelt advice from women she believes she is in community with.
Remember when we all donated so Liz could take that once in a lifetime Disney trip? It was such a worthy cause that everyone who could donate did.
To be financially able to give but instead offer your helpful advice must have really warmed this grieving widows heart. Y’all are such a solid supportive group of ladies!
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Post by Olan on Jun 30, 2022 13:56:18 GMT
Why is this a historic win for white life?
I know you girls love to tussle….and only with each other not the white men fucking everything up but who has that ever helped?
Also the co-opting of Black women phrases will forever tickle me. Nah fam? Really? Everything is catchy and worth stealing except the activism of Black folks.
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Also a connection you may be having trouble making....when you saw Black people “re-Fighting” for Civil Rights they had already secured that should have been your cue to begin actively rallying. A strong emphasis on the active part. Instead you post thread after thread of some judge giving a white man an attaboy for rape 😑 did you think only Black people were going to have to fight tooth and nail for rights so basic? I’m fighting for the right to birth and not die and you thought your daughter’s uterus was safe? Why?
I’ve been screaming about these connections for what seems like forever 🤷🏾♀️
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This article by Michael Moore popped up on my Facebook feed this morning, replete with photos from The Handmaid's Tale: The Forced Birth RulingOne hundred seventy million American women and girls were suddenly informed on Monday that they have been removed from the ranks of full citizenship, and that their rights are now diminished so severely they will heretofore be commanded to give birth, whether they want to or not. Once pregnant, the government will now make all women prisoners of their wombs, automatically forced for the full nine months to carry the fetus inside them to term, whether they intended to be pregnant or not, a 21st century version of house arrest.
And when it’s time to give birth, the woman who didn’t want to be pregnant in the first place is either virtually or physically held down until that fetus is forcibly removed from the incarcerated vessel that was ordered to carry it.
This Order by the Supreme Rulers gleefully violates the very first pronouncement of our Constitution’s First Amendment which clearly states, without equivocation, that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” The Ruling this week forces all Americans to now follow the strict religious beliefs of the Catholic Church and much of Christianity which has concocted a fantasy that a fertilized egg is a human being — even though their own founder and God, Jesus Christ, never said any such thing. In fact, the word “abortion” appears absolutely nowhere in the New Testament. This Supreme Ruling, from a Court consisting of a majority of Catholic Justices, has ordered the citizens of the United States of America to now obey a major tenet of the Catholic Church — or be found guilty of a crime.
This Supreme Ruling removes the right of all women to be equal citizens to men — men who will retain full 100% control over their own reproductive organs. Both men and women have five main bodily systems. Women will now be allowed to maintain control of only four of their top five bodily systems: their circulatory system, respiratory system, digestive system and their muscular/skeletal system. But not their reproductive system. That power now belongs to the government. Which makes women 4/5 of a citizen. The State of course exercises no legal control over whatever it is men want to do with their bodies, and no man is forced to reproduce or deal with any of its consequences as women are.
Our Supreme Robed Rulers have relegated women and girls to permanent second-class citizenship. The pretending that women are legally “equal” can now thankfully stop. The truth is they were always 2nd class citizens, thanks to unequal pay, no paid maternity leave, domestic abuse, etc. The fake mask of our American system of “equality” has been ripped off, no more pretending now, because the real slippery slope has begun. This Forced Birth decision is only the beginning. If these fascists are not removed from office, as President Biden has warned us this week, they will be emboldened and they will be on a rampage to undo other freedoms that are an affront to the State Religion they have now shoved down our throats in the Dobbs Case. Next up: ending same sex marriage. After that: the removal of the Plan B pill, aka “the morning after pill.” They have already eliminated the Violence Against Women Act and they will make that permanent. They have invaded school board meetings with threats of violence if the schools continue to teach that white Americans kidnapped, raped, lynched and enslaved Black Africans to build this country. They will continue to gerrymander, suppress the vote, and keep Black Americans on the lowest rung of the economic ladder. Your child will be forced to start the school day, every day, by standing and praying aloud to this Christian God Jesus Christ who never once condemned homosexuality, never once forced anyone to pray. They have made up this fake god to suit their totalitarian political agenda, to force women into the maternity ward, to send Black Americans to the back of the new bus where they are imprisoned by the millions along with other people of color.
Welcome to the New America. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, only the new boss no longer has to fake-sing his praises for “Democracy!” and “Freedom!” and “Equality!”
The New America is about to become a much scarier place. The Supreme Wealthy are going to take everything from you and they believe they’re going to get away with it. Only November stands in their way. Only November has a chance of stopping them. And that’s on you and me. MASSIVE ORGANIZING! EXPLOSIVE NONVIOLENT RESISTANCE! EVERYONE BRINGS FIVE VOTERS WITH THEM TO THE POLLS! EACH OF US PUTS A SIGN IN THE WINDOW OR THE YARD THAT SAYS “VOTE THE FASCISTS OUT!”
Then we might have a chance.
And I believe we do. Because there’s more of us than there are of them.
(Note: The ABC News poll this week showed 70% of Americans believe “abortion is a private decision between a woman and her doctor.” Only 27% of the country supports what the Trump Court is about to rule! C’mon people — let’s beat these traitorous bastards once and for all.)Why are white women trying to escape their culpability in all of this? I see so many of you talking about old white men as if all of you are married and caregiving for spry Black men. Are you? Who did you raise? Who raised you? The same can be said about the CRT threads. Like white guilt/shame and a Black person talking pointedly about Black suffering hasn’t already played out here. 👀 Domestic supply of infants? I’ve talked a lot of adoption, how that sibling group found themselves at the bottom of the ocean, transracial adoptions, social workers etc. In fact that was the last thread I actively posted on. Very easy to go back and see what the response was each time. Just a couple weeks ago you all were discussing Will Smith and the toxic masculinity of Black men. May I ask that you treat it like you do Black maternal health and let me worry it. It kills me not you. Meanwhile the toxic masculinity of the white male variety has and continues to fuck EVERYBODY over. Even you. How about you tackle that for once?
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