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Post by Olan on Jun 6, 2020 17:07:41 GMT
The Confederate flag argument always baffled me. When I was in HS some people were calling it the “rebel flag”. Whatever meaning it has to it’s owner I’m glad the Marine Corp has finally taken a side.
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Post by Olan on Jun 6, 2020 16:47:27 GMT
Making the case that our economy is rooted in racial oppression and that when black people are brutalized by state violence, the system is working exactly as it should. Bingo!
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Post by Olan on Jun 6, 2020 16:32:00 GMT
Well, there are some poster's on this thread whose opinions haven't aged well. Goodall still hasn't done enough. He needs to apologize personally to Kaepernick, you know, using his name. All Goodall is doing with his generic apology is to calm down his employees. Considering that about 70% of football players are black he had to say something. His bank account depends on it. A lot of pea opinions haven’t aged well. I’m sure it’s why folks hate it when I bump old threads and would love it if I was banned or stopped posting. www.knowyourrightscamp.com/who-we-arewww.cnn.com/2020/04/17/us/colin-kaepernick-coronavirus-donation-spt-trnd/index.html
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Post by Olan on Jun 6, 2020 16:06:13 GMT
www.cnbc.com/2020/06/05/reddits-ohanian-resigns-from-board-in-support-of-black-community.htmlReddit Co-founder Alexis Ohanian on Friday announced his resignation from the company’s board, saying he was stepping down and urging the company to replace him with a black candidate. “I’m writing this as a father who needs to be able to answer his black daughter when she asks: ‘What did you do?’” Ohanian wrote in a blog post. Ohanian, who is married to professional tennis player Serena Williams, also committed to using future gains from his Reddit stock to serve the black community and focus on curbing racial hate. To start, Ohanian said he would donate $1 million to former NFL player and activist Colin Kaepernick’s Know Your Rights Camp. “I believe resignation can actually be an act of leadership from people in power right now. To everyone fighting to fix our broken nation: do not stop,” Ohanian said. Reddit plans to honor Ohanian’s request that his board seat be filled by a black candidate, CEO and Co-founder Steve Huffman said in a post on Friday. Huffman thanks Ohanian for his service to the company, and he added that Reddit will update its content policy, which will include a statement on hate.
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Post by Olan on Jun 6, 2020 13:29:15 GMT
The other two men were accused because they "fit the profile"...FIT THE PROFILE...Just like many black men who are falsely accused, arrested, brutalized, and killed because they "fit the profile". I felt like this when the Ahmaud Arbery thread I posted turned to “don’t stereotype all white Southern men”. Racism is a public health issue for this reason. Imagine walking through life not knowing who means you harm and having everyone tell you the threat you’ve readily identified is actually an American hero. It’s a mind fuck that probably accounts for a lot of the bitter black woman I’m accused of being. To see how protected and safe white women are and to know I could be killed as I sleep really sucks.
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Post by Olan on Jun 6, 2020 13:21:33 GMT
I hope ole Dre becomes the most tackled QB in the history of the game. But my biggest hope is EVERY single black player who committed to PWI instead come play for an HBCU. How many games would your fav team win without a single black player? 🤷🏾♀️ Same with HS football. Create all black teams and use them as additional opportunities to mentor black youth. Too much racism in sports that white saviors will have you believe “bridge gaps”. Nah. Black athletes make racists so much money. Agents, owners etc. Or racists who love football but hate Black people. They aren’t deserving of entertainment and should probably take their asses to church on Sunday instead.
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Post by Olan on Jun 5, 2020 17:21:42 GMT
Not at all. In fact that’s what we are protesting.
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Post by Olan on Jun 5, 2020 17:18:33 GMT
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Post by Olan on Jun 5, 2020 17:13:54 GMT
It seems that many people, including here, are screaming about “defunding the police” without really having an idea of what that would look like. I can see that there needs to be a change and we need specific actions. But simply saying and demanding to defund the police is not actionable or helpful. You speak about things from such a limited perspective. It’s like you want people to think you are well versed but the words that you type betray you every time.
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Post by Olan on Jun 5, 2020 17:07:17 GMT
My tone is often policed here at 2peas but I want to preface what I’m about to say with “no snark intended”. Just so you know for certain no snark was used in the formulation of this here pretty simple sentiment.....
Black people don’t have a DAMN about how you’d like us to protest.
Layla Saad just posted a beautiful piece about how the revolution will look.
I bet the re-reading of the many Kaepernick threads posted might provide some insight as to why Black people have ran out of fucks to give.
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Post by Olan on Jun 5, 2020 16:53:07 GMT
I'm going to play Uno with my husband! Kinda boring with 2 people, but we still love a good Skip/Draw 4 war. (We don't have Skip-Bo, which the article mentioned was one of her favorites). ❤️ I was happy to see it be so specific. Many of my friends have ancestral altars and it’s helpful to know what items the ancestors might find familiar or pleasing. The only card game I know is Uno. That and Go Fish. Uno is my favorite though. I hope you win!
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Post by Olan on Jun 5, 2020 13:57:00 GMT
I am, by the screen name, assuming the OP is a teacher. That breaks my heart. IME, when people want women to give them respect, they often claim to be teachers. Only once was the person actually a teacher.SAdly, She was an unrepentant racist who taught kindergarten. I’ve posted studies about how inherently racist school systems are and how damaging it is to black children....it didn’t go over well. I think after the PD gets defunded school systems should be the next racist institution we get together. My nephew attends an all white school and his self esteem has shot up since COVID-19 and not being exposed to it daily.
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Post by Olan on Jun 5, 2020 13:52:09 GMT
I wrote this three times and chickened about posting it. Then decided to go ahead as we need to be open and honest here about how we feel. I know I am going to be lambasted and labeled with ugly words, but please look at the video with an open mind, think of the policeman in question as a son or brother and watch again. You would find excuses for him then just like you are now finding fault with him now because he is a policeman. I hate that this happened and it is a rough world out there. Yes they were rough with the gentleman, BUT if someone gets in my face to yell at me like he was, I am not apt to act peacefully. Then I saw an officer get on his mic and I hope it was to call in for help for him. There were voices saying get a medic, it might have been an officer or it might have been another protestor. I am not saying he asked for it, but what was the gentleman expecting to happen? The police line had to move forward, did he think that by getting in the way he would be able to stop it? He would not get out of the way. He was pushed, but how hard? The fact he tripped and fell could have been cause he was pushed too hard, or could have been cause he stumbled, or there might have been a crack in the pavement. I am not supporting anything I saw there, nor am I saying he asked for it, but please look again at the video and see if you can see other ways to interpret what you are seeing. Gestapo officers were sons, brothers, husbands. Now this is a word!!!!! They won’t like it though.
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Post by Olan on Jun 4, 2020 19:52:03 GMT
Ijeoma Oluo is another. Also Tomi Adeyemi who wrote Children of Blood and Bones
Eloquent Rage by Brittney Cooper is another good read.
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Post by Olan on Jun 4, 2020 17:29:45 GMT
His father is a former police officer.
I will continue to pray for peace in the heart of Ahmaud’s mother. Learning those details won’t be easy.
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Post by Olan on Jun 4, 2020 17:23:24 GMT
That’s great news.
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Post by Olan on Jun 4, 2020 14:05:53 GMT
The case would look a lot better if they had hired a different lawyer. . .not saying they should not get justice. But by hiring the lawyer they did, it looks like they are seeking publicity instead of justice. The police knew where the suspect was and it was NOT in that house - no excuse for breaking down the door like they did. 😳 Are you kidding me? If your daughter was murdered by the police in her own home because the cops went to the wrong place, you wouldn’t want every damn person in the world to know? You wouldn’t be screaming from the rooftops? I sure as hell would. I’d want those fuckers in jail AND the world to know. Jesus with judging the victims. If you looked in the comments section of the news stories surrounding Philando Castile murder you saw a huge number of commenters saying his girlfriend’s motive was notoriety or she was a “welfare queen” looking for a payout. Apparently a lot of racists think black people want to bury their loved ones so they can hire uppity attorneys and cash out. Pretty sad but surprisingly not uncommon. A very hard watch: Philando Castile’s daughter and girlfriend following his murder: www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-video-diamond-reynolds-daughter-20170622-story.html
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Post by Olan on Jun 4, 2020 0:24:24 GMT
Audre Lorde and Toni Morrison are my fav black authors. I’m currently reading Paradise.
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Post by Olan on Jun 3, 2020 14:04:09 GMT
Don’t just be sad and angry. Be our mama allies. For those who want to know where to begin: --Call/write/email your representatives. Tell them you’re not going to tolerate anymore police brutality and that they have to make this a priority in legislation. We all know all politicians want to be re-elected and if enough people voice their demands, they’ll do something about it, even if it’s incremental. Go to the district offices of your politicians and ask for an appointment for a sit-down to discuss your concerns and demands. Participate in townhalls. Tell every single one of them to step up and make this one of their topmost priorities. Talk to the people in your orbit – your family, friends, co-workers, colleagues, and ask them to team up with you and make calls and put their names on your letters and petitions. --The young are particularly livid about what’s been happening. The problem is too many of them do not vote. Encourage those young people in your families to always vote. Is your state routinely suppressing the votes of blacks and other minorities? You can help by joining organizations and coalitions that facilitate minority voting. Contact your state and local officials, the ACLU, the League of Women Voters and they’ll give you the facts and guidance as to how you can help. --Join or volunteer in local organizations that advocate for civil rights. Support them with whatever funds you can afford. --If you’re surrounded daily by mostly white people who never hear the black perspective, widen your world – for example, visit a black church every now and then (if you’re a person of faith) and get to know some of the people there (who knows, you might even meet my mother; she’s the sweetie with the six violets on her church hat; and honestly, these black church people are fun). Are there black-owned business near you? Patronize those businesses and chat up the owners. Do you sometimes see black parents when there’s a school function? Approach them, introduce yourself, talk about children stuff, school stuff, whatever. Make an effort to get to know as many different black people as possible in your lives. --Do you have black friends? Call them. Don’t saddle them with how you’re feeling right now. You’re sad and angry at this moment? Trust me, they’re feeling worse. Just tell them you care about them and that you’re available if he/she needs you. --Be honest with your kids. Depending on their age, help them understand in terms that won’t confuse them that everybody in this country is not treated equally because of their skin color. I know that could be too abstract for some kids so just encourage them to befriend more children of color. Children are smart, sometimes smarter than adults, and in my experience they’re the ones who usually “get it.” --Don’t be afraid to speak up. If you see something unfair occurring right before your eyes and you know it’s racially-motivated, don’t go rushing to your social media. Say something right there and then and endeavor to intervene without endangering yourself. --Don't punish yourselves for feeling conflicted right now. That doesn't help anything. There’s nothing wrong with being dismayed about the violence currently happening. Any decent human being can be cognizant of the rage undergirding all this AND at the same time not condone the destruction of property. Feeling this way doesn’t make you insensitive and it doesn’t make you a racist. Fury isn’t even close to describing what I feel about the state-sanctioned killings and brutality toward blacks, but I am also saddened for the people who have to pick up the pieces afterwards and whose livelihoods have been destroyed. Yes, property can be replaced and dead people will remain dead. Yes, some of the damage was on high-end retail stores that may be able to easily recover, but I’ve seen plenty of small neighborhood businesses set on fire that are unlikely to have the resources to rebuild. We are fighting and clamoring against the savagery of too many officers; how could the solution be savagery in the destruction of communities? --Finally, understand that this is not just one moment. For some of us, racism has been a lifetime legacy. Whatever effort you put into helping requires a sustained commitment. So, commit. There'll be times (many) when you'll be discouraged. Just don't lose hope. And keep asking questions. This is great. Thank you.
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Post by Olan on Jun 3, 2020 2:21:57 GMT
Raleigh peas did anyone catch the clip of the flippant protestor speaking to the live reporter. It’s a good laugh. I can’t post videos from my phone so if anyone finds its I’d love it if you shared.
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Post by Olan on Jun 3, 2020 0:44:46 GMT
I know it's not about me but I stand with those it is about. Like Chris Rock said (paraphrased): Some occupations don't get to have bad apples. Like airline pilots. You can't have a few that like to fly into mountains... Ha! I hadn’t heard that.
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Post by Olan on Jun 3, 2020 0:43:38 GMT
I’ve felt that way a lot in the past 5-6 years and it just happened to coincide with the timeframe I really needed to make family planning decisions. I’m 35 now and dating the most suitable co-parent I’ve ever loved so it’s a real sore spot nowadays. Just this weekend we were outside laying on a blanket and I starting crying. My angry/sad cries are silent hot fast flowing tears so when we got up he complained that the oil in my hair ruined another of his shirts LMAO. I didn’t have the heart to tell him it would dry. Glad it wasn’t apparent because we haven’t seriously discussed children yet though I have ruined all of his shirts with my castor oil drenched locs.
May I share a relevant bible verse?
“Cast thy bread upon the waters; for thou shalt find it after many days. Give a portion to seven, yea, even unto eight; for thou knowest not what evil shall be upon the earth. If the clouds be full of rain, they empty themselves upon the earth; and if a tree fall toward the south, or toward the north, in the place where the tree falleth, there shall it be. He that observeth the wind shall not sow; and he that regardeth the clouds shall not reap. As thou knowest not what is the way of the wind, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child; even so thou knowest not the work of God who doeth all. In the morning sow thy seed, and in the evening withhold not thy hand; for thou knowest not which shall prosper, whether this or that, or whether they both shall be alike good.
Yea, if a man live many years, let him rejoice in them all; but let him remember the days of darkness, for they shall be many. All that cometh is vanity.” Ecclesiastes 11:1-6, 8 ASV
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Post by Olan on Jun 2, 2020 20:15:16 GMT
And now could be a great opportunity to say “Hey thanks for answering my question. Sorry I read your response wrong.” No? I think you are the last person to tell someone to apologize. But I did just add an apology while you were posting. Am I the last person because you believe I’m someone who never apologizes or you just mad? And yes I did see my response may have prompted an apology though anyone else “watching” should also see your reluctance and how long it took. You were just talking about kindness you know.
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Post by Olan on Jun 2, 2020 20:07:44 GMT
Sorry, but I was really thinking you were asking a question and I was thinking of possible answers for you. If you weren’t looking for an answer, then I don’t get your comment. I’m thinking you jumped down my throat pretty quickly. Edited to add: he said it in conversation and not in a rehearsed speech so maybe it does sound like strange terminology. I WAS asking a question. I took your use of question marks as “duh? Why don’t you know that?” And now could be a great opportunity to say “Hey thanks for answering my question. Sorry I read your response wrong.” No?
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Post by Olan on Jun 2, 2020 19:54:29 GMT
Any explanation that I give about how I am feeling will he met with negativity so there really isn’t a point. I’ve already been told several times that my feedback is not important. And no, that is not me being a victim. It is a fact of how people have been acting. People try to share their POV and they are torn apart and told they are wrong. People ask questions or say they want to learn and are treated like they are idiots for not knowing in the first place. People are constantly posting things (whether their own opinion or an article or the title of a post) that are said in an aggressive tone, whether that is coming from a black person or a white person that thinks he or she is so much more enlightened than everyone else. It is true that looking at our own biases and history is uncomfortable. That is hard enough as it is, why would anyone do it if they are met with aggression and resistance along the way?a little kindness goes a long way. From the thread on the black square, you were answered in the most passive way someone can, with question marks after the answer. You perceived that as aggressive and mocking. Could it be worthwhile to consider if you are misinterpreting answers as more aggressive than they are meant? Or asking why it makes you feel defensive? As to why anyone should bother - we should bother because black people deserve to be safe, even if the process is painful for me. And because as a white person, the literal least I owe is to listen and try to understand and learn, even if what I hear hurts my feelings. Thank you. Really.
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Post by Olan on Jun 2, 2020 19:50:45 GMT
I understand. I have felt like that. I keep this book at hand, TBH, because it helps me reflect. White Fragility, chapter 8, "Why it's so hard for White People to Take Feedback" This part resonates with me ALL the time. Literally have it highlighted. The quote is: Racism is the norm rather than an aberration. Feedback is key to our ability to recognize and repair our inevitable and often unaware collusion. In recognition of this, I try to follow these guidelines: 1. How, where, and when you give me feedback is irrelevant - it is the feedback I want and need. Understanding that it is hard to give, I will take it in any way I can get it. From my position of social, cultural, and institutional white power and privilege, I am perfectly safe and I can handle it. If I cannot handle it, it's on me [emphasis author's] to build my racial stamina.2. Thank you.ETA: I'm sharing this more about showing up outside of this place than here, so it's not necessarily a commentary on this particular thread or any thread here. More about what has been helpful to me as I think about ways to be more anti-racist in my life. Any explanation that I give about how I am feeling will he met with negativity so there really isn’t a point. I’ve already been told several times that my feedback is not important. And no, that is not me being a victim. It is a fact of how people have been acting. People try to share their POV and they are torn apart and told they are wrong. People ask questions or say they want to learn and are treated like they are idiots for not knowing in the first place. People are constantly posting things (whether their own opinion or an article or the title of a post) that are said in an aggressive tone, whether that is coming from a black person or a white person that thinks he or she is so much more enlightened than everyone else. It is true that looking at our own biases and history is uncomfortable. That is hard enough as it is, why would anyone do it if they are met with aggression and resistance along the way?a little kindness goes a long way. I think the reason why they would be inclined to change even if they were met with resistance is because 1. It’s important to them. 2. It’s time. 3. It’s the right thing to do. And dangling the “right thing to do” over my head and demanding I perform a certain way to get your help or response doesn’t make me feel comfortable. I don’t think I’m lacking kindness when my response is “that’s okay then”.
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