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Post by pixiechick on Jan 21, 2022 14:38:02 GMT
I have a hard time taking someone seriously when they didn’t criticize trump for what they are now accusing Biden of. I have been working and couldn’t watch the speech, but in general Biden is not always a great speaker. That being said, even if it was Obama I am sure the OP would be complaining. Is not saying something on here agreement? Is "silence" acceptance?
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 17, 2022 6:05:44 GMT
I love the not becoming your parents one. I wish there was a way to turn that into a show.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 17, 2022 5:27:06 GMT
Bill Clinton's sexual assault issues. No defense here. See how easy it is to be consistent and non-hypocritical in applying the rules to pols whether you agree w/their policies or not. You try it. Plenty here did. Apply that requirement to those people to the Left here that defended and/or excused him.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 17, 2022 5:25:43 GMT
The videos are not random videos posted on you tube. Neither were the videos I posted. They were not random people spouting their opinion, they were videos showing big name news people on the Left, opining about Biden's health. They're from local TV stations. So were mine. I'm not posting this as evidence or a diagnosis. I never suggested it was anything other than my opinion, speculation Neither did I. So, shall we apply those quotes, or some form of those, to your opinion that DeSantis seems unwell? And where? is DeSantis coughing a lot?
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 17, 2022 4:42:27 GMT
In regards to DeSantis, his latest press conference shows him out of breath and struggling to speak. Sounds like he's been sick recently. DeSantis videoHe definitely seems out of breath, even in the beginning of his speech, like he’s struggling to catch his breath. The video is from a local TV news station. This video from another local tv station shows the same thing. www.wfla.com/news/florida/desantis-florida-deo-head-to-speak-in-kissimmee/If he did have covid, I understand why he wouldn’t disclose that. I think it would look bad for his presidential bid if he was infected with covid after downplaying the seriousness and blocking mitigation measures. He’s also refused to answer the question if he received the booster. I think a lot of his latest stunts are attempts to deflect and detract from a potential illness and the 2 weeks he was MIA. Like his statement that Jan 6 is Christmas for media. apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-lifestyle-health-miami-florida-ea2f4f557acb1262621529ee1a9ad3ebIt could also just be a conspiracy theory. When it comes to DeSantis, I’m inclined to think the worst. A few other notes about DeSantis He and Trump seem to have ended their love affair, at least temporarily. Maybe they will destroy each other. www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2022/01/14/desantis-uses-conservative-lifeline-as-trump-sours-on-him-1405741And a sign of how far the Republican Party has fallen and how they have embraced crass, crude, vulgar behavior and speech. The DeSantis campaign sold golf balls with the slogan "Fortified in Florida". The packaging says Florida's Governor has a pair - hold the line. I'm sure the same childish supporters chanting Lets Go Brandon appreciated them. I'm not sure what's more offensive - the golf balls or his anti - Fauci merchandise (don't Fauci my Florida) He's also selling escape to Florida Lockdown Libs tour tees www.cltampa.com/news/florida-gov-ron-desantis-wants-you-to-know-that-he-does-in-fact-have-balls-12478853secure.winred.com/rondesantis/storefront/the-lockdown-libs-tour-tee/detailseta - And now I know more than I ever wanted to about DeSantis. I’m glad I don’t live in Florida. I strongly disagree with his politics and he just seems really sleezy. Regrettably, he’s a more polished, more likeable politician than trump with lots of ambition. was coughing a lot and seemed unwell. Still waiting for you to show where he's doing this. Based on your responses I’m guessing these only apply to people you agree with and never apply to people you disagree with... And "seemed unwell"? The thought process from the Left, when speaking of Biden seeming unwell: "Because honestly, it has nothing to do with his condition and everything to do with your frothing about politics." "Those are simply talking points." "so does this mean that you are an expert and can diagnose people from afar?" "When you post your opinions, post them along with reputable sources from professors, scientists, doctors, etc. as back up." "How do you know those YouTube videos weren’t edited? People are very good at editing videos to tell the story they want to tell instead of the real story.." "The fact is no matter how many videos you produce as your proof the only people who know for sure about his... state are his doctor and his wife and maybe close aids. Otherwise it’s pure conjecture by those who want it to be true." "Nattering talking heads are NOT "doctors, scientists, professors, etc"." "post EVIDENCE from SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS. Not news commentators who have to fill 24/7 airwaves nattering about Biden, Trump and everyone between."
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 17, 2022 4:38:20 GMT
You are the "ones" that defended and made excuses for Bill Clinton though. Make excuses for what? An affair? That's his and his wife's business. For lyiing about it? Nope. Not OK. Clinton's sex was consensual. Sexual assault, aka "grabbing by the pussy", is not. Bill Clinton's sexual assault issues.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 15, 2022 6:28:48 GMT
because of the "mental gymnastics" constantly going on to avoid admitting ANYONE on the Left could do something wrong Then you haven't been paying attention. Lots of ANYONES on the left have castigated those on the left who do wrong. For example, go back and read the Cuomo threads, or the Franken ones. Get a grip. We're not the ones who defend "grabbing by the pussy." I didn't defend that, not even a little. You are the "ones" that defended and made excuses for Bill Clinton though.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 15, 2022 6:24:57 GMT
I never suggested that DeSantis possibly having covid was anything other than an opinion, guess or speculation. DeSantis going to a ball game isn’t a problem, it’s just inconsistent with his excuse that he was taking care of his family. His sudden disappearance without any communication or advance notice is curious. But, go ahead and continue to defend him. If Cruz is the only Republican you’re willing to criticize after I posted a long list of Republicans guilty of hypocrisy, I’m not interested in a discussion about DeSantis or AOC. But, you might want to examine your own hypocrisy before you call out AOC. During time off for cancer care and the holidays, it's not unreasonable to take a break from the stress and go to a game to enjoy life for a moment. It doesn't mean it's inconsistent with taking care of his wife and kids. I also don't feel obligated to respond to your expanded list of whataboutisms in order to have an honest discussion. I agreed with the last whataboutism and you dismissed it as meaningless, so why bother. You can't seem to honestly discuss without constantly moving the goalposts and ever expanding lists of whataboutisms for me (or whoever) to jump through hoops for. You don't seem to want an honest discussion, you seem to want conformity.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 15, 2022 2:49:06 GMT
pixiechick , if you’re finished with AOC, can you please do Ted Cruz now? Please start with his dumbass tweet (see top of this page) about how California can’t maintain a working power grid. (Not true, btw, but that’s what he was claiming.) Then he runs to Cancun when the power grid fails in Texas and people start freezing to death. Crickets on that one, apparently. Yep, more asshattery. That time from Cruz.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 15, 2022 2:46:06 GMT
The problem isn't that he took care of his wife or that he took care of his children or even that he went to a ball game. The problem is that he mysteriously disappeared without any advance notice and when he returned, was coughing a lot and seemed unwell. The problem is that he may have been infected with covid but has not announced that. The problem is that he may have had a bad case of covid and he downplayed the seriousness of it and failed miserably at mitigation. The problem is that he was MIA during a covid spike in his state. And a governor's responsibilities are a lot different compared to a US Representative when the House is not in session. The problem isn't... that he went to a ball game. It was a problem for you yesterday afternoon. was coughing a lot and seemed unwell. I don't see anywhere where he was coughing. And "seemed unwell"? The thought process from the Left, when speaking of Biden seeming unwell: "Because honestly, it has nothing to do with his condition and everything to do with your frothing about politics." "Those are simply talking points." "so does this mean that you are an expert and can diagnose people from afar?" "When you post your opinions, post them along with reputable sources from professors, scientists, doctors, etc. as back up." "How do you know those YouTube videos weren’t edited? People are very good at editing videos to tell the story they want to tell instead of the real story.." "The fact is no matter how many videos you produce as your proof the only people who know for sure about his... state are his doctor and his wife and maybe close aids. Otherwise it’s pure conjecture by those who want it to be true." "Nattering talking heads are NOT "doctors, scientists, professors, etc"." "post EVIDENCE from SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS. Not news commentators who have to fill 24/7 airwaves nattering about Biden, Trump and everyone between." So, shall we apply those, or some form of those, to your opinion that DeSantis seems unwell? Or do they only apply to opinions you disagree with?
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 15, 2022 1:02:39 GMT
AOC didn't break any rules. No one's saying she did, but she's guilty of being a horrible human. She condemned Cruz with "fled his home state and responsibilities during a crisis to seek refuge in Mexico" and "maybe Mexico shouldn't let YOU in next time you try to run away from your job to sip umbrella drinks in Cancun." Then she turned around and did the same damn thing she condemned him for during her state's historic record of Covid cases hitting, just substitute Miami for Cancun as she's snapped "fleeing her crisis state to sip cocktails" and "avoid any of her responsibilities". She fled her own state with "such great covid policies" for a state with policies she condemns. She's a hypocrite. Then she accuses DeSantis of being missing from HIS job. During the holidays. Turns out he was assisting his wife with her cancer treatments and attending to their 3 small children. Did she apologize for condemning him when she didn't know wtf she was talking about? Then when people point out her hypocrisy and basically being the asshat she accuses others of being, her answer is "people are only mad because they want to date her?!!!" She really doesn't do herself any favors in her asshattery or her response to it being pointed out. Are you really equating a short term emergency like the Texas freeze and covid? We've been dealing with covid for almost 2 years. No one is supposed to take a vacation or visit out of state family during that time? Yes, omicron is spiking, but it's definitely not the first spike. False comparison, false equivalency. DeSantis was AWOL for 2 weeks. And his explanation was full of holes. He took his wife to a cancer treatment but they went to a football game another day. If he can attend a football game, he can work from home. And why did he disappear for 2 weeks? Why didn't he say in advance that's what he was doing? There's speculation that he had covid. DeSantis's staff started everything with a taunting post, possibly to distract or deflect from their boss who was MIA. I agree she could have responded in a better way. However, that's really the only thing she did wrong in this situation. You can disagree with her politics, but this is basically the conservatives flipping out over nothing. Still waiting for you to answer these... No one is supposed to take a vacation or visit out of state family during that time? No one is supposed to take care of their spouse during cancer treatments and pick up the slack with their 3 small children? And his explanation was full of holes. He took his wife to a cancer treatment but they went to a football game another day. You're saying it's full of holes because during time off for cancer care and the holidays they took a break from the stress and went to a game to enjoy life for a moment? That's what you call "full of holes"? If he can attend a football game, he can work from home. How do you know he didn't get work done from home? What didn't get done?
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 15, 2022 1:02:01 GMT
You really do suck at your comparisons. I’m not even sure why you dragged Ted Cruz into this because you are, once again, comparing apples to oranges. It's not just me and my comparisons. It's been my experience, that NOTHING is comparable here because of the "mental gymnastics" constantly going on to avoid admitting ANYONE on the Left could do something wrong. Not because the comparisons are honestly so far off the mark. But whatever keep claiming it, it's becoming comical at this point. Her crime she was seen in an outdoor restaurant or bar and wasn’t wearing a mask. Nope. I don't care that she was outdoors eating without a mask. Her other crime was she “gasp” flew to Florida. I don't care that she flew to Florida either. I also DON'T care that she left her state during a crisis. The issue is that SHE cares. But only if someone she doesn't like is doing it. More of her hypocrisy is that she condemns the state as terrible with not having enough rules and then goes there and doesn't follow her own convictions. She was also seen in a crowded bar partying maskless, not eating or drinking and definitely not distancing, by any stretch of the imagination. That's my opinion, since you asked me to label it. It's okay to let a different opinion stand.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 14, 2022 21:59:23 GMT
It's mental gymnastics when you try to justify what Republicans are doing these days. It may be. It's also mental gymnastics when you try to justify hypocrisy of AOC and hypocrisy in general. And if everyone around you disagrees with you, maybe you need to reconsider. Not everyone around me disagrees. If you mean here on the board, this is not representative of the rest of the world, so the echo chamber here could hardly be the deciding factor of reality. If it's mental gymnastics for me to justify, it's certainly mental gymnastics for you to justify when your girl is being a major turd of a hypocrite. You're right. In this instance I won't. I have yet to see her consider or internalize any points that are made to show her the idiocy of false equivalences. Sorry you missed the times when I have admitted I got it wrong. Doesn't mean I have not done so.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 14, 2022 21:16:47 GMT
She said she was too embarrassed. She said they didn't get vaxxed not for political reasons, she said she and her husband were just too nervous of this new vaccine. She says she regrets it so much and she feels terrible that all could have been avoided. She said she didn't admit it to anyone, so instead they just stayed inside and suffered together. Unfortunately, because people judge so harshly, people in situations like this are less likely to tell their stories, and we need more and more people like them to tell their stories. We do see some families showing videos of people who were against the vaccine and then got sick and changed their minds; but we're not allowing those messages to do good because too many people inundate those videos with hateful responses instead of sympathy for the family and gratitude that they are now trying to help others. I wish that every single unvaccinated person who did have to suffer through COVID and who did then change their mind about the vaccine could feel safe enough to come forward and say "Hey, I was wrong about this. I was afraid of the vaccine just like so many of you, but now I've changed my mind and I will be getting vaccinated." We need to see many people saying this but we don't, and who could blame them? No one really wants to invite people to respond to them with nasty, hateful messages. So those people, whose stories are so important to beating back this damn pandemic, are not being told in numbers nearly as high as they could or should be. So, yes, I understand people feeling frustrated, angry, anguished, but I still really believe that there needs to be a safe space for people like this to come forward with their stories. Very well said.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 14, 2022 20:05:29 GMT
Leaving for warmer climates while people died from the weather. Leaving for laxer covid restrictions while people died and hospitalized at record numbers. Taking care of his kids. Visiting her mother. Yeah, it's all in how you frame it. He didn't "blame" his kids, he simply said "he was being a dad". Occasionally, when you're a dad/mom, that will happen. The dad or mom hat comes on. He also admitted it was a mistake to go at that time. He should have known that before he made that choice, but at least he admitted it was a mistake to do and not defending it. The mental gymnastics that you do to convince yourself that you are right and everyone else is wrong is just mind boggling to me. I did exactly what skellington and aj2hall did. Interesting it's mental gymnastics only when I do it.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 14, 2022 12:36:46 GMT
Are you really equating a short term emergency like the Texas freeze and covid? We've been dealing with covid for almost 2 years. No one is supposed to take a vacation during that time? Yes, omicron is spiking, but it's definitely not the first spike. False comparison, false equivalency. DeSantis was AWOL for 2 weeks. And his explanation was full of holes. He took his wife to a cancer treatment but they went to a football game another day. If he can attend a football game, he can work from home. And why did he disappear for 2 weeks? Why didn't he say in advance that's what he was doing? There's speculation that he had covid. DeSantis's staff started everything with a taunting post, possibly to distract or deflect from their boss who was MIA. I agree she could have responded in a better way. However, that's really the only thing she did wrong in this situation. You can disagree with her politics, but this is basically the conservatives flipping out over nothing. And I believe AOC was visiting her mother, correct? A little bit different then fleeing your state for a warmer climate during a freezing weather event that killed over 200 people and left millions without power. And AOC did not respond appropriately, IMHO, but TC blamed his kids for his little trip. Leaving for warmer climates while people died from the weather. Leaving for laxer covid restrictions while people died and hospitalized at record numbers. Taking care of his kids. Visiting her mother. Yeah, it's all in how you frame it. He didn't "blame" his kids, he simply said "he was being a dad". Occasionally, when you're a dad/mom, that will happen. The dad or mom hat comes on. He also admitted it was a mistake to go at that time. He should have known that before he made that choice, but at least he admitted it was a mistake to do and not defending it.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 14, 2022 12:30:39 GMT
AOC didn't break any rules. No one's saying she did, but she's guilty of being a horrible human. She condemned Cruz with "fled his home state and responsibilities during a crisis to seek refuge in Mexico" and "maybe Mexico shouldn't let YOU in next time you try to run away from your job to sip umbrella drinks in Cancun." Then she turned around and did the same damn thing she condemned him for during her state's historic record of Covid cases hitting, just substitute Miami for Cancun as she's snapped "fleeing her crisis state to sip cocktails" and "avoid any of her responsibilities". She fled her own state with "such great covid policies" for a state with policies she condemns. She's a hypocrite. Then she accuses DeSantis of being missing from HIS job. During the holidays. Turns out he was assisting his wife with her cancer treatments and attending to their 3 small children. Did she apologize for condemning him when she didn't know wtf she was talking about? Then when people point out her hypocrisy and basically being the asshat she accuses others of being, her answer is "people are only mad because they want to date her?!!!" She really doesn't do herself any favors in her asshattery or her response to it being pointed out. Are you really equating a short term emergency like the Texas freeze and covid? We've been dealing with covid for almost 2 years. No one is supposed to take a vacation or visit out of state family during that time? Yes, omicron is spiking, but it's definitely not the first spike. False comparison, false equivalency. DeSantis was AWOL for 2 weeks. And his explanation was full of holes. He took his wife to a cancer treatment but they went to a football game another day. If he can attend a football game, he can work from home. And why did he disappear for 2 weeks? Why didn't he say in advance that's what he was doing? There's speculation that he had covid. DeSantis's staff started everything with a taunting post, possibly to distract or deflect from their boss who was MIA. I agree she could have responded in a better way. However, that's really the only thing she did wrong in this situation. You can disagree with her politics, but this is basically the conservatives flipping out over nothing. No one is supposed to take a vacation or visit out of state family during that time? No one is supposed to take care of their spouse during cancer treatments and pick up the slack with their 3 small children? And his explanation was full of holes. He took his wife to a cancer treatment but they went to a football game another day. You're saying it's full of holes because during time off for cancer care and the holidays they took a break from the stress and went to a game to enjoy life for a moment? That's what you call "full of holes"? If he can attend a football game, he can work from home. How do you know he didn't get work done from home? What didn't get done?
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 13, 2022 15:19:51 GMT
AOC didn't break any rules. No one's saying she did, but she's guilty of being a horrible human. She condemned Cruz with "fled his home state and responsibilities during a crisis to seek refuge in Mexico" and "maybe Mexico shouldn't let YOU in next time you try to run away from your job to sip umbrella drinks in Cancun."
Then she turned around and did the same damn thing she condemned him for during her state's historic record of Covid cases hitting, just substitute Miami for Cancun as she's snapped "fleeing her crisis state to sip cocktails" and "avoid any of her responsibilities". She fled her own state with "such great covid policies" for a state with policies she condemns. She's a hypocrite.
Then she accuses DeSantis of being missing from HIS job. During the holidays. Turns out he was assisting his wife with her cancer treatments and attending to their 3 small children. Did she apologize for condemning him when she didn't know wtf she was talking about? Then when people point out her hypocrisy and basically being the asshat she accuses others of being, her answer is "people are only mad because they want to date her?!!!" She really doesn't do herself any favors in her asshattery or her response to it being pointed out.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 13, 2022 3:04:59 GMT
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 12, 2022 19:44:47 GMT
So what? Why does that bother you so much. I'm building a new history after 5 years and 20,000+ posts. And after another 5 years and 20,000+ more posts, I may do it again - in case you want to make any plans based on my posting habits. I don't get being SO INVESTED in other peas' posting histories. And why not the chastisement to the many others who've done the EXACT same thing - and, no I will not be dogging them about it by naming them? I am genuinely curious who else has done this without hair flipping out first? I don't recall anyone else making a habit of this type of behavior, honestly I did not hairflip out with my old name. I simply closed my account and stopped participating for a while.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 12, 2022 19:41:33 GMT
I hardly consider a new user name an alter, particularly when you deleted the prior account AND told us all who you are. I am not sure anyone would really care about the new name and letting people know it was a new name, *if* that action didn’t come with deleting a substantial portion of your prolific posting history here. I seem to remember a couple of years ago someone did exactly that and people were up in arms about that too. I believe a thread like this was started then too.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 11, 2022 3:40:06 GMT
My facts are not wrong. CNBC- U.S. reaches 70% Covid vaccine milestone for adults about a month behind Biden’s goal
There's more, NY Times, CNN, etc. That was in August. Many, many, many more have been vaccinated since then. The ONLY reason we're "not at 70%" or more NOW is because they moved the goal posts. Read this and comprehend it: If 70% produced the effective result in August, it's still an effective result now. And we've added even more vaccinated adults to the count. Adding in children is icing on the cake, but it did not change the effectiveness of the 70%. Reality just doesn't work like that. No one is disputing that we reached 70% of adults last summer. That was Biden's July 4th goal and has nothing to do with herd immunity. Biden's July 4th goal was similar to his 100 day goals. A goal for the whole population at the time was impossible because children were not eligible yet. Maybe you need to read this again and try to comprehend. I posted this at least 3-4 times in this thread alone, without insulting your intelligence or reading comprehension, except for repeating your words back to you and asking you how many times do we need to repeat something. Not an unreasonable question because its been posted 5-6 times already. Other posters also tried to explain it to you. Herd immunity has always been the whole population. No one added them, they are not icing on the cake. They are part of the whole population and have always been. Excluding them makes no sense unless you isolate all of them together somewhere. Feb 2021 www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/02/22/covid-vaccine-children-herd-immunity/April 2021 childrenshospital.northwell.edu/news/insights/kids-are-the-key-to-herd-immunity-from-covid-19Children comprise 23 percent of the US population, so a good portion of them will need to be vaccinated to achieve herd immunitynews.northeastern.edu/2021/04/01/why-kids-hold-the-key-to-herd-immunity/It mostly comes down to the numbers needed for herd immunity, Maniar says. Children make up 22.1 percent of the US population, and, given that some adults won’t get vaccinated because of vaccine hesitancy or underlying conditions, that is a significant portion of the population that still could be contracting and transmitting the virus that causes COVID-19March 2021 www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210322/fauci-says-child-vaccinations-needed-for-herd-immunity Mar. 22, 2021 -- The United States probably won’t reach herd immunity until children are vaccinated, Anthony Fauci, MD, said. .
"We don't really know what that magical point of herd immunity is, but we do know that if we get the overwhelming population vaccinated, we're going to be in good shape,” Fauci said Thursday during a hearing of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee. “We ultimately would like to get and have to get children into that mix."You are right, I was wrong. My sincere apologies.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 11, 2022 2:03:14 GMT
At some point you have to realize that Trump is not a good excuse for anything. For everything? I think that he has contributed to the radicalization of the GOP, so yes, he is that bad. And unless you have found some current info on Hunter Biden’s laptop-I looked, but found nothing new-I’m done. I will cheerfully admit that he sounds like a screwup, but I do not believe that his father did anything wrong. So good night to you. You can't excuse Biden, because Trump.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 11, 2022 2:00:36 GMT
I don't care how you feel about mandates. How many times do we need to repeat this? Your "facts" are wrong. No, we have not reached the needed percentage. Only 62% of the whole population has been vaccinated. Look it up. By anyone's standards, that is not herd immunity. Excluding children from the whole population is ignoring science and manipulation. My facts are not wrong. CNBC- U.S. reaches 70% Covid vaccine milestone for adults about a month behind Biden’s goal
There's more, NY Times, CNN, etc. That was in August. Many, many, many more have been vaccinated since then. The ONLY reason we're "not at 70%" or more NOW is because they moved the goal posts. Read this and comprehend it: If 70% produced the effective result in August, it's still an effective result now. And we've added even more vaccinated adults to the count. Adding in children is icing on the cake, but it did not change the effectiveness of the 70%. Reality just doesn't work like that.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 11, 2022 1:28:37 GMT
Yes, it was proven. Hunter Biden not holding office isn't the issue. The issue was circumventing elections in order to make sure their candidate wins. They certainly did that. I have not seen that. Is there a link? And seriously, you are talking about circumventing elections? After what TFG’s people did? At some point you have to realize that Trump is not a good excuse for anything.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 11, 2022 1:25:52 GMT
I'm not objecting to adding children. I'm saying that the percentage needed was reached this past summer. Without the children. That was what we needed to reach herd immunity and we reached it and then some since then. That goal post WAS moved by adding children to the percentage of people in order to say that we haven't reached the goal needed. If we reached the goal NEEDED this past summer, then WE HAVE REACHED THE GOAL. To now say we haven't reached a goal that we already reached, is not honest and not based on science. Unbelievable, the crap you get worked up about. You’re mad because they want more people vaccinated and you think they’re only doing it so they can claim we haven’t reached our goal yet? That doesn’t even make sense in crazytown, let alone the real world. Do you ever actually listen to yourself? I don't agree with a mandate. Can't justify mandating vaccines if the population has complied and reached the needed percentage. Which they have. That's not following the science. That's manipulation.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 10, 2022 15:44:51 GMT
That's what I'm saying. Wellllllll... there was the Hunter Biden story held back and a disinformation campaign against it, just for one instance. Until AFTER the election when then they said oh, yeah, it's not Russian disinformation. Was that ever proven? If so, I missed it. ETA: Also, what office does Hunter Biden hold? And really, if we are going to start trashing the progeny of Presidents, TFG’s kids have some dirty laundry of their own, so I hear. Yes, it was proven. Hunter Biden not holding office isn't the issue. The issue was circumventing elections in order to make sure their candidate wins. They certainly did that.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 10, 2022 15:21:47 GMT
Ok, Democrats can be sore losers. That's what I'm saying. I guess that the difference for me is that they are not actively trying to circumvent elections in order to make sure that their preferred candidate wins. Wellllllll... there was the Hunter Biden story held back and a disinformation campaign against it, just for one instance. Until AFTER the election when then they said oh, yeah, it's not Russian disinformation.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 10, 2022 15:15:48 GMT
No one with a functioning brain disagrees with this. Everyone HERE agrees with this. This is where the goal posts WERE moved. And not because of science. We had reached the objective of 70 percent not to mention we've surpassed that and more than likely are nearing, if not at the high of 80-90. What changed our percentage reached, is the moving of the goal posts. They moved the goal posts by adding children to the expectation of vaccinations. If it was herd immunity to reach 70-80% without the children factored in, WE ARE THERE. Add the children in to get vaccines, but we're still at the number they needed to reach herd immunity. That's where they moved the goal posts. Can't justify mandating vaccines if the population has complied and reached the needed percentage. I have no idea where you’re getting 80-90%. Of which population? Children are part of the herd. They’re literally everywhere. Why wouldn’t they count in population counts? I'm not objecting to adding children. I'm saying that the percentage needed was reached this past summer. Without the children. That was what we needed to reach herd immunity and we reached it and then some since then. That goal post WAS moved by adding children to the percentage of people in order to say that we haven't reached the goal needed. If we reached the goal NEEDED this past summer, then WE HAVE REACHED THE GOAL. To now say we haven't reached a goal that we already reached, is not honest and not based on science.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 10, 2022 14:41:11 GMT
So what “mass violence in several instances - just in the last few years “ are you talking about? The DC riot I linked NYC Minneapolis Portland Kenosha Philadelphia At least 13 instances of violence against Trump voters that I linked in July. Possibly incited by Maxine Waters' speech that was clearly going to incite violence. Win was the wrong word. A better term is “to make your point”. No, that was exactly what you meant to impart when you said "And let me give you a piece of advice, you are always going to lose" and told me to "sit down" the other day via a tweet you posted. You accuse others of needing the last word, but it is you that needs to disagree and have people sit down and shut up when you have said they are wrong. If anyone stands by their statement and backs it up with why they don't agree that they are wrong, you don't like that, so that's when you start smearing in order to get them to acquiesce or smear them more if they don't. The current point you are trying to make is the left is just as violent as the right when it comes to protests The point I AM making is that the Left is not morally superior since they DO commit violence. And they're not always so gracious at loosing.
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