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Post by pixiechick on Jan 10, 2022 14:36:04 GMT
Trump may be the biggest sore loser ever, but that doesn't mean the Left was gracious in their loss. Gracious in their loss of what election? Wait, are you talking about Hillary? She was gracious. We weren’t. I own that. We protested, but didn’t quite work up to storming the Capitol and trying to prevent an election from being certified. To this day I have no regrets. I might not have liked previous Republican Presidents, but I never felt like any of them thought that they were king. Trump is a horror show. Hillary was not gracious. Oh, she said all the right things in her concession speech. But then, she called Trump an illegitimate president. She was whining embarrassingly on a video conference BEFORE she even lost about not being 50 points ahead. She wrote a book whining about her loss. She went on a blame game tour to whine and blame every thing and everyone ELSE for her loss. People got sick of hearing her whine about her loss. She's still publicly whining about it almost a year after Trump has been out of office. That's not gracious, that's a sore loser. Stacey Abrams, Andrew Gillum, Bill Nelson... all sore losers.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 10, 2022 0:37:21 GMT
The entire point of the OP was to show how virtuous the left is, as opposed to the right. I was responding to your comment that the Left is not gracious at losing. Trump may be the biggest sore loser ever, but that doesn't mean the Left was gracious in their loss.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 10, 2022 0:35:57 GMT
Poor old pixiechick everyone is picking on her. Quit playing the victim. Its getting old. Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say that or insinuate that. When you do that it says more about you. You were simply asked to provide the facts to what you were claiming and refused to do so and then you get all pissy because no one is buying what you are selling. I provided a link in my very first post, the very first response to the OP. I have repeatedly told you that and you have repeatedly "missed" it. Now if you want to claim what you are spouting is just your opinion then fine. My response would be you are entitled to your opinion and I disagree with your opinion. End of discussion. Do you really need to be told that someone is stating their opinion? My response would be you are entitled to your opinion and I disagree with your opinion. End of discussion. But you can’t do that can you because you always have to be right.And let me give you a piece of advice, you are always going to lose when making comparisons using trump, the majority of his supporters and the majority of Republicans who hold elected offices. Who is it again that always has to be right? Is this like the time you told me I didn't know when to walk away, AFTER I had walked away and hadn't responded to a post in 5 days?
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 22:05:45 GMT
No, what I said is the Left is not morally superior since they DO commit violence. And they're not gracious at loosing. YOU ALL tried to dismiss that by citing numbers. Despite your repeated attempts to dismiss the above, it still stands true. Irony is not dead. How can you type that with a straight face? Trump lost and invented a lie that is being perpetuated to this day. Many people are bad losers. I don’t think that it’s a left/right thing. But Trump takes the cake for being the biggest sore loser ever. I don’t think that it’s a left/right thing. The entire point of the OP was to show how virtuous the left is, as opposed to the right.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 22:02:10 GMT
Thought this was very appropriate to the way some on this thread are posting: I see a lot of people who I follow responding to this tweet (substitute post), so maybe it’s time to talk about outrage trolls. These accounts are not bots; they’re people who post intentionally inflammatory, over-the-top statements... They want you to respond. That’s the whole point.... Outrage trolls don’t want dialogue, and you aren’t going to get one. They exist to waste your time and your followers’ time, to pollute your feed, to distract you from more important issues, and to make you angry enough to say something you regret. These people exist to hijack your attention — and if you’re a large account, to hijack your followers’ attention, too. When you engage with them, you are giving them control of the discourse and allowing them to decide what you (and your followers) talk (or don’t talk) about. Caroline Orr Bueno, Ph.D @rvawonk Honest-to-goodness dialogue. Yes, please. Posters who have no interest in reading and responding to specific points in the direct line of the discussion. No, thank you. Just stop. Disagreeing with your assessment that the Left is virtuous and the Right is evil does not make me a troll. Smearing those with opposing opinion vs. arguing the topic, is not honest-to-goodness dialogue on your part.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 21:56:48 GMT
from the horse’s pixie’s mouth: And I stand by my statement: Hundreds arrested for storming the capitol on January 6th and hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only.The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances -just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP. Biden calling Trump an illegitimate president, along with many others doing so publicly, trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power for 4 years even before he was even sworn in and when he was days away from leaving office, defies your claim of the Left being gracious in defeat. YOU are the one who brought comparative numbers into the discussion. Then you went on to say “the left is just as guilty of mass violence …. ” No, actually, we aren’t nearly as prone to violence as the right. And when our outliers do get violent, we decry the violence, we don’t call them great patriots. So please stop claiming we are misconstruing your statements. Showing vague numbers to show that the Left is violent too is not the same as attempting to dismiss that fact by adding up actual numbers.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 21:52:56 GMT
Much as the virus has changed form and presented new challenges, our fight against it has also needed to evolve. No one with a functioning brain disagrees with this. Our best plays? Get vaccinated, get boosted and wear masks. Everyone HERE agrees with this. Most experts predicted early on that herd immunity could be reached at somewhere between 80 and 90 percent of the population vaccinated. Some suggested it could be as low as 70 percent. But we’ve suffered from both poor luck and poor effort. A year after covid vaccinations become available in the United States, our vaccination rate sits at a dismal 62 percent — far from even the most optimistic estimates of herd immunity. This is where the goal posts WERE moved. And not because of science. We had reached the objective of 70 percent not to mention we've surpassed that and more than likely are nearing, if not at the high of 80-90. What changed our percentage reached, is the moving of the goal posts. They moved the goal posts by adding children to the expectation of vaccinations. If it was herd immunity to reach 70-80% without the children factored in, WE ARE THERE. Add the children in to get vaccines, but we're still at the number they needed to reach herd immunity. That's where they moved the goal posts. Can't justify mandating vaccines if the population has complied and reached the needed percentage.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 21:16:27 GMT
The first 2 statements were pre-delta. Based on the evidence available at the time, vaccines did prevent 90% of infections. Dr Walensky's and Dr Fauci's statements were 90% accurate at the time. Timing and context matters. Furthermore, the CDC walked back Dr Walensky's comments and corrected or clarified them. www.nytimes.com/2021/04/01/health/coronavirus-vaccine-walensky.htmlthehill.com/changing-america/well-being/546234-cdc-reverses-statement-by-director-that-vaccinated-people-are-no Sure but again at least 5 posters jumped on iamkristinl16 for pointing out that at the time the messaging was different - all she said was: that's why I stated people are absolutely trying to rewrite history on this thread. Last summer pre-delta messaging was very different as the varietal was very different and a bunch of let me tell you don't remember it right was some serious bullshit.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 21:11:00 GMT
That's great, that's not an argument I am making so you and your strawman can sit and wait together. oh, BS. You’ve been insisting this entire thread that Democratic violence is equivalent to Republican violence. Only you can’t back up that claim with actual facts, so now that’s not the argument you were making. Your video clips of random small bits of rioting are in no way equal to an attempt to overthrow a lawful election. Sorry. No, what I said is the Left is not morally superior since they DO commit violence. And they're not gracious at loosing. YOU ALL tried to dismiss that by citing numbers. Despite your repeated attempts to dismiss the above, it still stands true.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 6:30:28 GMT
Let me try again, since it's not getting through to some: MILLIONS OF MEN AND WOMEN PROTESTED THE ELECTION OF TRUMP w/peace, w/no attack on the capital, no desecration of our system of government. SEVERAL THOUSAND PROTESTED THE ELECTION OF BIDEN with death, destruction and an attempted coup. And I stand by my statement: Hundreds arrested for storming the capitol on January 6th and hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only. The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances -just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP. Biden calling Trump an illegitimate president, along with many others doing so publicly, trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power for 4 years even before he was even sworn in and when he was days away from leaving office, defies your claim of the Left being gracious in defeat.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 6:29:30 GMT
twitter.com/i/status/822520685054394369 Violent protests Biden called Trump an illegitimate president and the Left spent 4 years trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power. Starting before Trump was ever sworn in. Your high horse is pretty low to the ground. From PolitiFact.. linkClaim by Jody Hice… “Democrats “spent 4 years refusing to acknowledge Trump’s 2016 victory.”We rate this claim False.”Again, not a claim I'm making. What I DID say is "trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power for 4 years even before he was even sworn in and when he was days away from leaving office". 2 different things.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 2:15:23 GMT
You seemed to have missed this. JFC, "you" ask a question meant to imply an untruth, then you smear the person who cleared up the misinformation. With that kind of mentality running so rampant, we ARE doomed. Lord help us all. I’m still waiting for the results of your research into how many cops were killed, injured, or permanently disabled by the widespread, massive, violent protests by anti-Trump forces in January 2017. You know, the ones that were totally equivalent to the organized, armed attempt to overthrow our democratic government and execute any leaders who didn’t fall into line with the former president on 1/6/21. That's great, that's not an argument I am making so you and your strawman can sit and wait together.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 1:17:59 GMT
pixiechick Science is a continual and ongoing process of change. With a new virus, it has and will continually change as scientists learn more and more. It's also akin to progress. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with saying something that was said by the experts, wasn't said. Nothing.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 9, 2022 1:15:47 GMT
All of the responses to this are essentially "Yeah, but the fact that "our side" commits violence too doesn't matter because, blah blah blah." So I stand by the facts I stated. Yes, and it's verifiable, even through left leaning sources. And here's video for you: My very first post, for one.From your post. ”hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only. The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances - just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP.” So your proof is…You seemed to have missed this. Oh, JFC. He’s a monster, he’s always been a monster, he’s only gotten more monstrous since he lost the 2020 election, and yet he still has that flag-waving fan club. Lord help us all. JFC, "you" ask a question meant to imply an untruth, then you smear the person who cleared up the misinformation. With that kind of mentality running so rampant, we ARE doomed. Lord help us all.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 8, 2022 20:07:08 GMT
Yeah, a handful of idiots (who I hope were arrested and convicted) is EXACTLY the same as MILLIONS of people peacefully protesting in 2017 and thousands destructively protesting in the Capitol. Hundreds arrested for storming the capitol on January 6th and hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only. The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances -just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP. Biden calling Trump an illegitimate president, along with many others doing so publicly, trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power for 4 years even before he was even sworn in and when he was days away from leaving office, defies your claim of the Left being gracious in defeat. All of the responses to this are essentially "Yeah, but the fact that "our side" commits violence too doesn't matter because, blah blah blah." So I stand by the facts I stated. Did trump ever concede defeat? Yes, and it's verifiable, even through left leaning sources. And here's video for you: 1. Where are your examples of “mass violence” by the left. Mass violence that had to do with the election or specifically the trump presidency. My very first post, for one.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 8, 2022 19:57:29 GMT
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 8, 2022 6:59:33 GMT
Yep, vaccine efficacy in trials was always measured vs death and severe illness/hospitalization. Sterilizing immunity is entirely different. Well, I disagree. My perception was that they initially said that vaccines were going to be the answer to stopping the virus, and that vaccinated people wouldn't get it. That is why they made such a big deal of professional athletes and other vaccinated people testing positive. Perhaps the drug companies didn't focus on that, but the media sure did. I'm sure that there were threads here that discussed that as well. But, you can go on thinking that I and others who thought that initially are idiots like you want to portray. It really doesn't matter. That isn't where we are at with the vaccines now, but trying to say that there hasn't been different information given about the vaccine and how effective it is at preventing infection (or if people who were vaccinated could be spreaders) has changed is false. Your perception is absolutely correct. Fauci "When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community. In other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere. And that's when you get a point that you have a markedly diminished rate of infection in the community." Head of the CDC "Our data from the CDC today suggests that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick, and that it's not just in the clinical trials, but it's also in real-world data." Biden "You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations."All said in 2021.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 8, 2022 6:49:10 GMT
Yeah, a handful of idiots (who I hope were arrested and convicted) is EXACTLY the same as MILLIONS of people peacefully protesting in 2017 and thousands destructively protesting in the Capitol. Hundreds arrested for storming the capitol on January 6th and hundreds arrested for violently protesting Trump defies your claim of immorality on one side only. The Left is just as guilty of mass violence in several instances -just in the last few years, despite the claim of your OP. Biden calling Trump an illegitimate president, along with many others doing so publicly, trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power for 4 years even before he was even sworn in and when he was days away from leaving office, defies your claim of the Left being gracious in defeat.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 7, 2022 16:25:19 GMT
twitter.com/i/status/822520685054394369Biden called Trump an illegitimate president and the Left spent 4 years trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power. Starting before Trump was ever sworn in. And TRUMP spent more than 4 years ranting about how the 2020 election was going to be rigged. He started before he even was sworn in. He talked about primaries he lost being rigged. He spent years drilling this into peoples heads, with zero proof. But yeah, of course, you will defend him. You always do. None of that erases the BS being spouted as moral superiority in the OP.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 7, 2022 16:20:01 GMT
twitter.com/i/status/822520685054394369 Violent protests Biden called Trump an illegitimate president and the Left spent 4 years trying to undo a peaceful transfer of power. Starting before Trump was ever sworn in. Your high horse is pretty low to the ground.
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Post by pixiechick on Jan 7, 2022 6:01:37 GMT
they said I could wear theirs over mine What was their reasoning for this?
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 15, 2021 22:37:16 GMT
I stand corrected, pat yourself on the back ...no need for the massive bolding though Well, you missed it when it wasn't bolded. Thought it might help.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 15, 2021 21:22:40 GMT
I didn't come here to argue, so I'm not. I'm just sharing how happy I am for him that he is getting help and learning other stuff on the way. So what was your point in posting? Since you don't care to engage in any meaningful conversation, just throwing random updates at us, it seems pretty obvious you just wanted to stir the pot, maybe test us to see how we'd respond or whatever. There is a happy medium between arguing and just ignoring people. So - you had some incredibly kind words and support from the Peas as we always do when someone is down, but there's been no thanks from you, no recognition of that, just obtuse posts about chess etc. So, are you happy now? Did you achieve what you wanted? So - you had some incredibly kind words and support from the Peas as we always do when someone is down, but there's been no thanks from you, no recognition of that, just obtuse posts about chess etc. Dec 9, 2021 7:41pm- Thank you all for your responses. I was able to talk to him yesterday and he sounded good. It breaks my heart to think of how this great kid really has been abandoned by his parents. His bio mom left when he was two years old, took a plane to California, and never looked back. Then my daughter married his father (way too soon, I think) and cared for him since then. His father was cheating on my daughter several times and she finally divorced him. When she left him she took both kids (she and he had a child together as well) and he was ok with it. Over time he visited less and stopped calling. Now he doesn't visit or call and my daughter even emailed him several times and mentioned that he was in the hospital. No response. My grandson told the therapist that the only reason he is still alive is because of my daughter. He knows that she loves him. I always tell him that I do too. I'm so thankful that he asked for help, and we have an opportunity to show him that we love him no matter what. He's a really good kid. <3
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 15, 2021 21:18:40 GMT
In a perfect world it wouldn't, but we humans are a messy bunch. I'm sure you've noticed many, many instances where people from all walks don't do the most logical, or correct, or appropriate thing right away. It's just the way the mind works sometimes.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 15, 2021 21:14:13 GMT
It's not splitting hairs. It's you ignoring the facts stated by focusing on and dismissing an opinion. I also said "That doesn't do anything to prevent or even explain away the deaths in companies of less than 100." Not an opinion. and "The reality is: caveats put in the mandates by Biden contradict the so called importance of the mandates." Also not an opinion. Another fact. After saying he wouldn't mandate vaccines, Biden put mandates in place when the fallout hit from his colossal failure in Afghanistan that left so many people behind. Right when he was getting condemnation from all sides that wouldn't let up. When the fallout from refusing to listen to his military experts cost people their lives. Again, right when he was getting condemnation from all sides that wouldn't let up. Interesting timing for something that he "wasn't going to do". Yes, and I’m glad that he did. It gave businesses the backbone to demand Covid vaccines. So in the end, in my opinion, it was the right thing to do. See, that’s an *opinion.* As has been explained to you a tiresome number of times, and yet you keep ignoring it, smaller companies were exempt because it was felt that many of them lacked the administrative setup to enforce it. I am ok with that. Oh look, another opinion of mine. Biden changed course after it was clear that a lot of jackasses were not getting that “newfangled vaccine.” Hey, they’re fine with taking those monoclonal antibodies-also newfangled-once they get sick, aren’t they? Odd how that works. So we have established that Biden changed his mind and decided that mandates were needed. Yes, those are facts. Clearly you disapprove of mandates and feel that all companies should have been included. That is your opinion. See the difference? You keep repeating the same things. Obviously you are Big Mad about the mandates. Hey, there’s my opinion again. As for Afghanistan, where did that come from? Are you just free-ranging ranting about Biden? Now, I can see that you are going to keep typing the same things over and over, interspersed with words like “nope” and “lies.” It’s all very tedious, so go ahead and have the last word. You keep repeating the same things. Obviously you are Big Mad about the mandates. Hey, there’s my opinion again. As for Afghanistan, where did that come from? Are you just free-ranging ranting about Biden? Now, I can see that you are going to keep typing the same things over and over, It came from the oddly political timing of his about face on mandates. Biden put mandates in place only when the fallout hit from his colossal failure in Afghanistan that left so many people behind. Right when he was getting condemnation from all sides that wouldn't let up. When the fallout from refusing to listen to his military experts cost people their lives. Again, right when he was getting condemnation from all sides that wouldn't let up. Yes I repeated myself again.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 15, 2021 20:01:24 GMT
You made a list. Where are your facts to back up what you are claiming. If you want to play games knock yourself out.👋🏻 I'm not playing games. You made an accusation about my list. My list is common knowledge facts so, I'm unclear which part of it you need back up of. That's why I asked which of them you need back up for and your answer is that I'm playing games? It's obvious I'm not the one playing games.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 15, 2021 17:31:28 GMT
Which part did I get wrong? I'll correct it. You made a list. Where are your facts to back up what you are claiming. By the way my feelings about Nate Silver has to do with basketball and the Golden State Warriors and not politics. In case you missed it, last night Steph Curry became the player with the most three point baskets in the NBA and he did it faster then the previous holder of that title Allen. This is my list. Which ones are not facts?
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 15, 2021 7:30:19 GMT
That's a switch from "I suppose you do have a valid point." That along with all of the other things that don't follow science that I mentioned. That remains an extremely lazy ass, meaningless excuse for Biden doing anything. Biden's contradicting policies, contradicting messages about the vaccines, artificially changing percentages to "change the science", not following the science, divisiveness, seemingly using mandates as political cover, etc. are all contributing to vaccine resistance. Yes, the gap is a logical and valid question. So is the lack of consistency across the board. That’s why I’ve already posted many replies to you addressing your points. And aj2hall answered your question about consistency: The private company and the health care workers mandate will cover 2/3 of all workers. The private company one was aimed at companies with more than 100 employees because they have the structure and employees to administer a mandate. And like she said, there’s nothing stopping smaller employers from imposing their own vaccine mandates. If you don’t agree with anything I’ve said, that’s perfectly fine. You just simply do not like our answers. So, I’m not inclined to continue engaging with you endlessly. You’re not after discussion; what you’re after is a brawl. And I’m not interested in a brawl. I've already addressed aj2hall and I explained what I found lacking in that. I'm not after a brawl. I simply disagree with your excuses for Biden and stated why. That's not a brawl, that's a discussion.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 15, 2021 6:56:23 GMT
Amazing how that happens here whenever a previously Pea valued source goes against "your" narrative. Things start to twist and unravel Things like sites publicly rated as "least biased, center & factual" are suddenly called "right leaning" when they go against Pea narrative. The Hill... Right leaning. Oh, it's honest, you just don't like it. When the actual Left leaning news is calling them out, when the people in their own party are calling them out, when his military experts are testifying and telling the world he didn't listen to them, when other world leaders are calling them out, when her staff in multiple arenas are calling her out and quitting, when the poll numbers are so low and historically low and low coming from both sides, it's nothing but denial to say it's someone else's fault. You are making assumptions & accusations with no facts to back them up once again. Without facts they are just meaningless words. Which part did I get wrong? I'll correct it.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 15, 2021 6:52:51 GMT
You don't have to agree for it to be so. I watched it happen. Your gaslighting isn't going to change truth. Nor will your insistence that people have been driven out of Refupeas. It just didn't happen. If people chose to leave, it's on them, no matter how much you wish it were otherwise. Yes, it absolutely did happen. And still does. We've actually seen the posts from several former peas saying why they were leaving a few years back. That's not counting the ones that just quietly left. We've seen the thread S full of posts saying why they don't want to participate anymore. Saying "it just didn't happen" is a flat out lie. Yes, THEY made the choice, but those choices were based on being called a troll, a crazy, telling people don't respond to that person, smear campaigns, hateful dehumanizing, dismissal of sources no matter what, purposefully derailing threads with jello molds and tv shows, all because they have facts that go against Pea narrative, dare correct misinformation that certain Peas don't want corrected, come to different conclusions, have the "wrong point of view" or agree with someone else that has done any of that. OR they have watched that all happen to others.
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