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Wasn’t it you quoting individual teachers to infer that there are large groups of furious public school teachers opposing CRT?

People who live in glass peapods…

I'll say this again slowly. See if you can keep up. The law is written in an intentionally vague way so that teachers can be targeted based on anything or nothing at all. There's no specific verbiage for a reason. It allows them to cast a very wide net. It's subjective and doesn't define at all the things that teachers are supposed to avoid. It's written that way on purpose to put a target on teachers' backs and further undermine the public schools.

Define divisive teaching. What kind of teaching divides kids by race? How do you define "anguish" in the context of response to a class discussion. Is the teacher responsible for everything that is said in a classroom full of high schoolers? Exactly what kind of discussion is supposed to be shut down? If the student can support their opinion with facts from a variety of texts, does she still have to shut it down? Who decides?

Whoever this supposed professor is, he also has not been in a K-12 classroom possibly ever.

The law is written in an intentionally vague way so that teachers can be targeted based on anything or nothing at all. There's no specific verbiage for a reason. It allows them to cast a very wide net. It's subjective and doesn't define at all the things that teachers are supposed to avoid.

Define divisive teaching. What kind of teaching divides kids by race?

How do you define "anguish" in the context of response to a class discussion.

Is the teacher responsible for everything that is said in a classroom full of high schoolers? Exactly what kind of discussion is supposed to be shut down? If the student can support their opinion with facts from a variety of texts, does she still have to shut it down? Who decides?

Wrong.

How did that work in Tulsa? Juneteenth?

Where do you get your information? What is a lot? What is the percentage of people of color vs the percentage of white people?

www.apa.org/pi/ses/resources/publications/minorities

You act like racism has never occurred in our country. There are still people alive today who couldn't drink out of certain water fountains due to their race. Do you not think that this didn't help shape our country today?

Maybe this will help you understand. I doubt it though.

Understanding Associations between Race, Socioeconomic Status and Health: Patterns and Prospects

Research indicates that there are at least four reasons why race still matters for health after SES is considered. Firstly, in addition to being influenced by current SES, health is also affected by exposure to adversity throughout the life-course. Early life adversity, such as poverty, abuse, and traumatic stress, vary by race and SES, and has been shown to influence multiple indicators of physical and mental health later in life, including cardiovascular, metabolic and immune function (Shonkoff, Boyce et al. 2009

Secondly, race matters to health disparities due to the non-equivalence of SES indicators across racial groups. Compared to Whites, Blacks and Hispanics receive less income at the same education levels, have markedly less wealth at equivalent income levels, and have less purchasing power due higher costs of goods and services in the residential environments where they are disproportionately located ( Williams, Mohammed et al. 2010).

Thirdly, arguably the most critical distinctive social exposure experienced by racial minorities is the added burden of racism. Discrimination across both institutional and interpersonal levels remains pervasive in contemporary societies (Pager and Shepherd 2008).

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4817358/

Where do you get your information? What is a lot?

What is the percentage of people of color vs the percentage of white people?

You act like racism has never occurred in our country.

Therefore we do have to be hypervigilant about the way we, as white people, interact with people of color.

It’s not the skin color that’s a problem; it’s the negative characteristics that were assigned to the color over centuries.

It’s not an issue of melanin; it’s an issue of beliefs and the resulting attitudes of those beliefs that shaped societies and institutions, and became ingrained over time. That’s how racism became a structural problem and why its adverse effects became cumulative. That’s why the word “systemic” is often attached to the word “racism.”

When a problem is structural whereby laws, policies, education, housing, wealth opportunities, justice, employment, etc are intentionally fashioned to support those beliefs and attitudes, then the disadvantages that are the natural outcomes of that problem become much harder to overcome by the marginalized.

I think that’s what people here are trying to convey to you. You are seeing only skin color when skin color is not the problem.

It’s not the skin color that’s a problem; it’s the negative characteristics that were assigned to the color over centuries.

When a problem is structural whereby laws, policies, education, housing, wealth opportunities, justice, employment, etc are intentionally fashioned to support those beliefs and attitudes,

What disadvantage? Please elaborate as you are being vague. Give some examples here.

Just restating what I wrote.  Initially, I didn't feel qualified to comment on the exact wording of the bill.  I looked at the NH bill more closely and changed my mind.  I stated my objections to the actual wording.

Because it is a thing that has happened throughout time and in different parts of the world.

Since the days of slavery, skin color has been used as a tool of separation and preferential treatment within the black community. The residue of the "house" versus "field Negro" divide has long remained with us, even as we celebrated black pride in the '70s and hip-hop culture in the '80s. House slaves were usually products of a relationship between a master and a female slave, so they tended to have lighter skin. The boss's offspring would more than likely receive the special favor of doing work inside the house out of the hot sun. They'd eat better, often get taught to read and write, and enjoyed many of the liberties of nonslaves. Slaves with darker skin were usually stuck toiling in the fields. The anger over that old distinction has never quite gone away in African-American culture.

Why? Come on now, that is like saying why are people racist. What exactly are you looking for here? A dissertation?

No point in having a conversation if you're going to dismiss articles by more neutral, credible sources like NPR and AP.  Here are the words to the NH bill.  As I said before, a big part of the problem is how these bills will be implemented.  Teachers in fear of their jobs or fines will adjust what they teach and stay away from racial issues.

www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2021/HB0544.html

I'm going to try one more time, then I'm done.  I posted this in the Kyle Rittenhouse thread, but it seems unlikely that you read it.  

Many of the Republican bills or proposed bills specifically ban teaching about systematic racism.  This isn't made up, its not left leaning journalists talking about it.  They are actual bills written by Republican state legislatures.

www.npr.org/2021/05/28/1000537206/teachers-laws-banning-critical-race-theory-are-leading-to-self-censorship

In Texas, a bill that has passed both chambers of the Republican-controlled Legislature would impose restrictions similar to Oklahoma's, including banning public universities from requiring students to take diversity training. It would also require teachers who discuss ugly episodes in history, or controversial current events, to explore "contending perspectives without giving deference to any one perspective."

www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/07/02/why-are-states-banning-critical-race-theory/

Eight states (Idaho, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Iowa, New Hampshire, Arizona, and South Carolina) have passed legislation.

The legislations mostly ban the discussion, training, and/or orientation that the U.S. is inherently racist as well as any discussions about conscious and unconscious bias, privilege, discrimination, and oppression. These parameters also extend beyond race to include gender lectures and discussions.


apnews.com/article/business-wisconsin-education-race-and-ethnicity-racial-injustice-dc73ee7fd8962ea52f56eae2319055d5

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Wisconsin public schools would be prohibited from teaching students and training employees about concepts such as systemic racism and implicit bias under a Republican bill the state Assembly passed Tuesday on a party line vote.

www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2021/06/14/gop-lawmakers-intensify-effort-to-ban-critical-race-theory-in-schools

The resulting Tennessee bill, which was signed into law last month by Republican Gov. Bill Lee, bars schools from broaching a wide range of topics such as the existence of systemic racism, privilege, oppression and any criticism of meritocracy. It also grants the commissioner of education undefined discretion to withhold state funds from schools found to be in violation of the law.

“Instead of broadening our worldview, this legislation narrows it,” Jenny Miller, an elementary school librarian in Camden, Tennessee, told Chalkbeat. “How will this come across to teachers of color or those that are contemplating entering the profession?”

Because the color of your skin is a disadvantage that you're born with.  It's a disadvantage that affects you every single day of your life. And its not something you can overcome like poverty, a single parent etc.  I posted this before but seriously, please look at this.  It's worth your time.  

graphics.reuters.com/GLOBAL-RACE/USA/nmopajawjva/

No, not all of us have disadvantages.  There are many middle class and wealthy whites, especially men that do not have disadvantages.  At least recognize their privilege.  

Pixiechick there have been many articles that have been supported with research on this subject. Color of a person's skin and Hollywood came to my mind first. Here is an excerpt from an article when searching on color and Hollywood:

Throughout most of the history of American film and television, stories of people of color were more often than not told through the lens of a white creator. Many have sounded the alarm for years that by doing things this way, the nuance and culture of those being portrayed is lost or.

variety.com/2021/tv/features/producers-of-color-fighting-for-hollywood-seat-1235063212/

How many people were not able to be a producer because of their skin color?

Pew Research on Hispanics with darker skin are more likely to experience discrimination than those with lighter skin.

About two-thirds of Hispanics with darker skin colors (64%) report they have experienced discrimination or been treated unfairly regularly or from time to time, compared with half of those with a lighter skin tone. These differences in experiences with discrimination hold even after controlling for characteristics such as gender, age, education and whether they were born in the U.S. or abroad.

www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/07/02/hispanics-with-darker-skin-are-more-likely-to-experience-discrimination-than-those-with-lighter-skin/


Research Article A comparison of skin tone discrimination among African American men: 1995 and 2003

First, results suggest that skin tone matters in contexts outside of their racial group. As predicted, light-skinned men consistently perceived the best treatment from Whites, while dark-skinned men consistently perceived the worst treatment, supporting the first hypothesis.

Second, results indicate that skin tone matters within the racial group. In the in-group appraisals, it was hypothesized that medium-skinned men would report the least discrimination; this was supported in both datasets. The in-group appraisal finding has important implications for African American men who primarily reside in intra-racial settings, such as low SES neighborhoods.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4365794/

Even in other parts of the world skin color is a thing:

Colorism, the bias against people of darker skin tones, has vexed India for a long time. It is partly a product of colonial prejudices, and it has been exacerbated by caste, regional differences and Bollywood, the nation’s film industry, which has long promoted lighter-skinned heroes.

www.nytimes.com/2020/06/28/world/asia/india-skin-color-unilever.html

This is why I feel it is still a thing and holding people back. I even hear students putting each other down based on how dark their skin is in the halls of the school I teach at. The school I teach at is over 80% Hispanic.