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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 17:38:45 GMT
You mean this meeting on security? Why should VP Harris go to a meeting about security when she is tasked with finding the root cause of why migrants are leaving their country? "A senior administration official said Harris' role would focus on "two tracks": BOTH curbing the current flow of migrants AND implementing a long-term strategy that addresses the root causes of migration. So yeah, I'd say skipping a border security meeting says she's not doing a very good job.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 8:39:22 GMT
Her absense at one meeting proves nothing. It's not about proof. I was asked what I based my opinion on. It's MY opinion and that's how I got there. You can disagree with me, but it's still just my opinion. That's not the same as saying "this is a fact". Do you NOT understand what an opinion is? It's isn't about proof. In the day and age, how and why do you need to actually see the border with your own eyes? There's really nothing to gain from a personal visit, Then why bother going to the other border? What was gained from it? There are 150 books about Trump. Many people are on the record. You don't need unnamed sources to document the chaos of his administration. Trump is not the president. What policies encourage people to try to cross the border? And where did the administration promise to house and feed them? I recall very specific statements from both VP Harris and Biden discouraging people. I already stated some policies. And saying "don't come" is meaningless when your policies encourage otherwise. The State department can only work so fast, especially when former decimated their ranks. They were also hampered by let's see, a global pandemic and an agreement made by the previous administration with a deadline. 17,000 interviews is not a reasonable expectation or task given those parameters. That's why I said that Biden should have gotten this all done BEFORE he pulled out protective troops.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 8:28:55 GMT
Nope. We were talking about blaming each other for failures. Your sentence about failures said nothing about the CNN article. I didn't want to jump to conclusions. The CNN article mostly refers to disagreements among aides and staff. And nothing substantive. Show me exactly where they blame each other for failures. My point about office management still stands. Squabbling among their staff might show that they're not perfect office managers, but I don't think translates to them not being qualified or not doing a good job. The chaos and problems in the White House during the former administration were well documented. I don't recall that you ever called him out for it so your criticism now rings false. Blaming Democrats and failing to call out Republicans for the same thing again. Double standards.
Another deflection. We could do this all night but you don't have anything other than Republican talking points, ignoring questions and deflections. Nope. We were talking about blaming each other for failures. Your sentence about failures said nothing about the CNN article. I didn't want to jump to conclusions. You're right, I got the wrong quote. The CNN article mostly refers to disagreements among aides and staff. And nothing substantive. Show me exactly where they blame each other for failures. I said "She and Biden SEEM to be blaming each other for failures," You know what they say about the attitude coming from the top...
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 8:04:52 GMT
Specifically what meeting was it? Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas Today's High-Level Security Dialogue marks an important new phase in the US-Mexico security partnership. We will work together under a new framework to guide our joint efforts, and work toward our shared goals of security and prosperity for our two nations. 12:27 PM · Oct 8, 2021·Twitter Web App Her not being at this important meeting when she's tasked with border security, doesn't look like someone doing a good job. I’m curious, was there a due date to release her finds that she missed? A due date isn't the issue in looking like she's not doing a good job when she hasn't even mentioned it since she went almost 6 months ago. That's NOT a doing a good job. Just exactly how is going to the southern border for a photo op going to solve the complexity of the immigration problem facing this country? How can you solve a problem you refuse to even go look at? That's not doing a good job. Oh well the news media is the so called experts on this stuff so they must be correct. Well I wasn't there, but CNN is reporting it. Are you telling me NOW CNN is not reliable? Curious any specific examples or was it gossip from an unnamed source? You didn't have a problem with gossip from unnamed sources when it was about Trump. What are you babbling about? What open door policies that she supports snd what policies does she support that contribute to sex trafficking? The policies that encourage people to make the dangerous trek to the border. Like getting rid of the remain in Mexico policy. Like promising to house and feed them when they get here. Border crossers saying they waited for Biden's policies before they came across. Those things give a market to human traffickers. Those policies are putting women and children in danger. You do know that it’s Republicans pushing the lie that Democrats support open borders don’t you? Jeh Johson, Obama and other Democratic officials I don't remember at the moment are not Republican's pushing the lie. You do know the remaining Americans there are working to get their Afghan family members out don’t you? Leaked Email: Biden State Department Obstructed Private Rescue Flights From Afghanistan But before that happens these folks need to be interviewed/vetted by the State Department before they can be allowed into the United States. We don’t want to let any budding terrorist in. The Biden Administration inherited a backlog, I think of 17,000 of these interviews mainly because the trump administration had no intention of letting the Afghans into the country when he had planned to leave Afghanistan so they quit doing the interviews. I posted about it with the details on another thread. Then Biden should have done that BEFORE he pulled American protection out.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 7:10:39 GMT
I'm going to assume you're referring to the CNN article Don't assume. Read. According to CNN her office is a dysfunctional operation. That certainly speaks to not doing the job very well.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 6:55:23 GMT
She was tasked with the border issue and wasn't even present during a major border security meeting recently. Seems like not doing the job very well. I haven't heard anything else about it other than looking for root causes, so what did she find out? Where has she said what the plans are for what she found out? Not doing a good job. Speaking of plans, are we still getting Trump's plan for healthcare in two weeks, or nah? It's coming, right after Obama's cost cut of a typical family's health insurance premium by up to $2,500 a year happens.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 6:44:44 GMT
The assertion from Kristin was that I said NO ONE was lionizing him and that is clearly not what I said. . You want to keep moving the goal posts, have at it. Nope, I didn't disagree with you or dispute what you said. Just pointed out that you conveniently sidestepped the post you quoted and the fact that elected officials and the former president are lionizing him. So what?
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 6:36:25 GMT
Again, read what I ACTUALLY wrote. I never said they PUBLICLY criticized each other. What I said was: You took the time to bold it and quote it, did you bother to read it? Playing semantics again and ignoring the question. Show me where President Biden or VP Harris personally, not through their staff or aides, blamed each other for failures. You want me to prove something I didn't say.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 6:32:55 GMT
Yes and you very conveniently sidestepped the fact that elected members of congress and the former president are absolutely lionizing him. The post you quoted referred to the country and elected officials. The assertion from Kristin was that I said NO ONE was lionizing him and that is clearly not what I said. . You want to keep moving the goal posts, have at it.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 6:25:45 GMT
She was tasked with the border issue and wasn't even present during a major border security meeting recently. Seems like not doing the job very well. I haven't heard anything else about it other than looking for root causes, so what did she find out? Where has she said what the plans are for what she found out? Not doing a good job. She tried to lie about having been to the border, that's really not doing a very good job. She had to be forced into going to the border and then when she did, she didn't even go to where the crisis was. Sure looks like not doing the job very well if you don't go where the actual crisis is. Avoiding the actual problem at every turn is not doing the job very well. According to CNN her office is a dysfunctional operation. That certainly speaks to not doing the job very well. She and Biden seem to be blaming each other for failures, that doesn't point to doing a good job.Open door policies for the border that she supports and policies that contribute to human trafficking is not REALLY doing a good job. She brags about being the the last one in the room for the colossal failure of pulling out of Afghanistan. We now know that Americans are still there. Still. Right now. Not really pointing to doing a good job. Again so many falsehoods, partial truths, spin and exaggeration. Not a lot of actual evidence. When have Biden and Harris ever publicly criticized or blamed each other during his presidency? She is not solely responsible for problems at the border. Nor is this administration solely responsible. Every administration, including the Obama one kicked the can down the road and Congress has failed to pass any immigration laws. President Obama, to his credit, did create DACA but it was only intended as a temporary measure until Congress could pass the Dream Act or something similar. Many of the current problems are a direct result of the previous administration, including the cancelation of critical aid to Central American countries and a failure to plan for a surge of migrants in the spring. Going to the border does not solve the problem, it's just a photo op for Republicans. This administration and the VP are not solely responsible for Afghanistan. VP Harris was the last person in the room when the decision was made to withdraw from Afghanistan back in April. The decision was one they were forced into by the previous administration. Some of the Americans in Afghanistan are not ready to come to the US. The US Embassy is continuing to work on getting people out, they have not abandoned anyone. When have Biden and Harris ever publicly criticized or blamed each other during his presidency? Again, read what I ACTUALLY wrote. I never said they PUBLICLY criticized each other. What I said was: You took the time to bold it and quote it, did you bother to read it?
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 6:10:21 GMT
Nope. You said: I DID share reasoning OTHER THAN LOW POLL NUMBERS. Stop trying to back peddle. Aside from your opinion and assertion with zero evidence that's she's not doing well and low poll numbers, what evidence did you provide? Sorry, your opinion and a general statement is not evidence. I have no reason to believe THIS particular woman would do any better as the president. I have reason to believe THIS particular woman might do better as the president. I have several reasons for my opinion, and would have shared them if you'd shared your reasoning - other than "low poll numbers" Aside from your opinion and assertion with zero evidence that's she's not doing well and low poll numbers, what evidence did you provide? Sorry, your opinion and a general statement is not evidence. I know you're obsessed with evidence, but the conversation was about our reasoning not "evidence".
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 5:58:27 GMT
Just exactly how is she not doing her job well? Do you have any examples or are just going by what the polls say? And that you really have no idea if she is doing a good job or not? She was tasked with the border issue and wasn't even present during a major border security meeting recently. Seems like not doing the job very well. I haven't heard anything else about it other than looking for root causes, so what did she find out? Where has she said what the plans are for what she found out? Not doing a good job. She tried to lie about having been to the border, that's really not doing a very good job. She had to be forced into going to the border and then when she did, she didn't even go to where the crisis was. Sure looks like not doing the job very well if you don't go where the actual crisis is. Avoiding the actual problem at every turn is not doing the job very well. According to CNN her office is a dysfunctional operation. That certainly speaks to not doing the job very well. She and Biden seem to be blaming each other for failures, that doesn't point to doing a good job. Open door policies for the border that she supports and policies that contribute to human trafficking is not REALLY doing a good job. She brags about being the the last one in the room for the colossal failure of pulling out of Afghanistan. We now know that Americans are still there. Still. Right now. Not really pointing to doing a good job.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 5:52:31 GMT
Do you even read the posts you make such incorrect claims about? Restating your opinion <> providing evidence for your opinion. Nope. You said: if you'd shared your reasoning - other than "low poll numbers"I DID share reasoning OTHER THAN LOW POLL NUMBERS. Stop trying to back peddle.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 5:51:45 GMT
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 5:51:05 GMT
I can’t get past dumb stuff like this. He can’t be serious, but this is awful. Sure, Congressman. This guy should get his own holiday. He already has his very own t-shirt and white power sign. And then he can intern for Gaetz. Wasn’t it just the other day that Someone (I think pixie chick) said that “nobody is lionizing Rittenhouse”? I very specifically said no one HERE is lionizing him. LINK
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 4:11:17 GMT
What are you basing that on? What are you basing yours on? Low poll numbers?
See how you constantly make assertions or state opinions (the latter in this case) w/o back-up, but when people disagree w/you you go right to "what are you basing that on?"
I have several reasons for my opinion, and would have shared them if you'd shared your reasoning - other than "low poll numbers" which has little correlation to her potential abilities as a president.
Do you even read the posts you make such incorrect claims about? She's polling in historically low numbers (in the 20s) BECAUSE she's NOT doing her job as vice president well, at all. I have no reason to believe THIS particular woman would do any better as the president.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 3:35:57 GMT
Cute. I've always done that, after years of watching sources be dismissed. That's why I've since been linking/quoting commonly accepted here Left leaning sites. Even those get dismissed when they don't back up what the Left is asserting. I've even posted the link on another occasion in the last couple of months. I found this: It's also still an ongoing case, so we can't really compare an outcome with this case. So far he’s spent more time in jail (without a conviction) than Kyle Rittenhouse ever will. Over a year. Who’s going to give that back to him even if he is acquitted? I guess I hadn’t noticed that you’d stopped posting stuff from the Daily Caller and such. My bad. This kid was arrested on a Wednesday and released the very next day on bail in what seems a very clear cut case of self defense.
It makes me think there are circumstances in the case you linked that we aren't aware of. The judge did say he was a flight risk in your case.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 3:10:09 GMT
I have no reason to believe THIS particular woman would do any better as the president. I have reason to believe THIS particular woman might do better as the president. What are you basing that on?
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 2:15:18 GMT
She's polling in historically low numbers (in the 20s) because she's NOT doing her job as vice president well, at all. I have no reason to believe THIS particular woman would do any better as the president.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 1:58:53 GMT
Those of you saying justice was served or that are ok with the verdict, what do you think about the judge? Are you ok with how he did his job in this case? I do believe he did his job well. It doesn't seem like you do, what do you think he did wrong?
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 0:51:34 GMT
I NEVER said that. When you can't respond to me without dealing with the words I've actually said and have to argue something I didn't say, anything YOU have to say is inconsequential to ANY discussion. I didn't say those were your exact words. But that was essentially your point. Just paraphrasing here - Everyone has the same opportunities to achieve wealth regardless of your race. I did argue with you about systematic racism with tons of evidence that not everyone can pull themselves up by the bootstraps. I argued with you until I conceded it was pointless, you will never admit you're wrong. Like being wrong about acquired immunity. Other peas also argued with you regarding systematic racism and you dismissed them, ignored them or argued semantics. Maybe if multiple people are telling you that systematic racism exists, they might be on to something. I forgot one other tactic that you frequently use - insult the other person. you will never admit you're wrong. When you flat out lie, anything YOU have to say is inconsequential to ANY discussion. The rest of what you say is just more of the same kind of lies.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 0:47:32 GMT
First thing this country needs to do is examine the definition of “self defense” ,“ I feared for my life” & “stand your ground” as a defense in a murder trial. I’m not saying people don’t have a right to defend themselves but IMO these terms are being manipulated to prevent individuals from being held accountable for their actions when maybe they should be. And if the Supreme Court rules the way many think they will on the New York gun law there could be a whole lot more of these cases. Kyle claims he went to the protest to protect some guys auto dealership. Did this owner specifically ask Kyle to come and protest his business and bring a gun? Apparently Kyle decided on his own to go to the protest that night and along with his bandages he made the decision to take a “cool” gun aka an AR-15 which he obtained illegally. It was that one decision he made to take the rifle to the protest & keeping in mind there was no reason for him to take a gun but he chose to. And that one decision set off a chain of events that had him shooting three people and killing two of them. Apparently he spent part of the time with other armed men I guess at the dealership. But at some point he left them to put out a fire. It was at this time he attracted the attention of the first guy he shot. The question is what did Kyle do to make this guy chase him? Did he say something to him? We know the guy had mental problems but there had to be some reason that set him off. So the guy comes up to Kyle and tries to take the gun away from him. And not knowing how to handle himself in this situation he shot him. Next Kyle starts to run, he said toward the police to tell them he shot someone. And I guess they just drove off. Meanwhile his actions catch the attention of the two other victims and they started to chase him. What I saw in the video and what was confirmed by the guy that survived in his testimony was what they saw was Kyle shooting someone and then running away. AKA an active shooter. They were not next to Kyle and the other guy when he was shoot. So they gave chase thinking he was running away after shooting someone. The fact is Kyle’s decision to bring a gun to the protest set off a chain of events that ultimately led to him shooting three people killing two of them. And it didn’t have to happen. Because he had absolutely no reason to bring a gun to that protest. In fact none of those with guns at that protest had a reason to bring guns. And what made it worse for Kyle is he has no idea how to handle himself in this situation. And because of that he certainly shouldn’t have there with a gun. The reality is if Kyle hadn’t brought that gun that night the 4 individuals would more then likely have just gone home at the end of the protest without running in to each other. If Kyle felt he was man enough to carry an AR-15 then he should be man enough to be held accountable for his actions with that gun. I’m not saying they should toss him in jail and throw away the key but getting off scot free wasn’t the answer either. That is why we need to re-examine the definitions of self-defense, I feared for my life and stand your ground when it comes to murder trials. IMO Kyle claims he went to the protest to protect some guys auto dealership. Did this owner specifically ask Kyle to come and protest his business and bring a gun? He says they asked him to protect the business. I doubt seriously they asked him to bring a gun. & keeping in mind there was no reason for him to take a gun but he chose to. A lot of overpowered and beaten within an inch of their life, or shot dead people in these mostly peaceful protests say otherwise. But at some point he left them to put out a fire. It was at this time he attracted the attention of the first guy he shot. The question is what did Kyle do to make this guy chase him? Did he say something to him? We know the guy had mental problems but there had to be some reason that set him off. What did he do that set off a mentally unstable guy? Kyle put out the fire he started. So the guy comes up to Kyle and tries to take the gun away from him. And not knowing how to handle himself in this situation he shot him. Earlier in the evening Rosenbaum said: "If I catch any of you fuckers alone I'm going to fucking kill you!" And later Rosenbaum said: "I'm going to cut your fucking hearts out!" Now the mentally unstable guy that threatened his life has caught him alone and is trying to take his gun from him. I think Kyle knew how to save his life in this situation. Meanwhile his actions catch the attention of the two other victims and they started to chase him. What I saw in the video and what was confirmed by the guy that survived in his testimony was what they saw was Kyle shooting someone and then running away. AKA an active shooter. They were not next to Kyle and the other guy when he was shoot. So they gave chase thinking he was running away after shooting someone. They actively threatened his life by trying to bash his face and skull in and point a gun at him while advancing on him. The reality is if Kyle hadn’t brought that gun that night the 4 individuals would more then likely have just gone home at the end of the protest without running in to each other. Or he would have put out the fires and the original mentally unstable guy would have killed him when he got him alone. He would have been stabbed to death or actually had his heart cut out as promised. If Kyle felt he was man enough to carry an AR-15 then he should be man enough to be held accountable for his actions with that gun. He WAS held accountable and went through a trial to prove it was self defense. And he proved it with the help of video and the testimony of the guy he shot who SAID it was self defense.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 0:20:59 GMT
You clearly know NOTHING about me. That’s a pretty strong accusation based on a few posts. I think the first post in this thread is when I personally had an inkling of who you are. She's a terrible person because she was driving in the left lane? Or because she cussed?
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 0:16:23 GMT
Oh FFS. In general I provide evidence, it's dismissed. I don't provide evidence and what I say is dismissed, That's why we have 'the scientific method' and evidence/data needs to be valid/quality/vetted in order for it to be considered reputable. Which is why people can't just pull anecdotal "evidence" out of their hindquarters and consider it equivalent to scientific studies by doctors, scientists, professors. So, when you provide "evidence" try providing STUDIES, from reputable sources vs. anecdotes. If you're going to make assertions (vs. state opinions), then provide evidence. When peas wanting to have a real discussion make assertions (vs. state opinions) we try to cite reputable sources w/peer-reviewed studies. Not "Well, my cousin's neighbor's friend's son..." or "I heard" or "There was a story...." Which is why people can't just pull anecdotal "evidence" out of their hindquarters and consider it equivalent to scientific studies by doctors, scientists, professors. Funny, I don't ever see you object to it when you agree with the person doing it.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 20, 2021 0:09:11 GMT
I wouldn't count on Merge to explain something with anything that resembles the reality of what took place. She seems to be trying to break a record or something between her and another pea in how much they can restate what was actually said into some version that no longer resembles anything close to what was said in reality in order to argue with the non reality version. I think you're the one out of touch with reality. You're in complete denial of systematic racism and you keep repeating the erroneous belief that everyone has the same opportunities and can pull themselves up by the bootstraps. And you can be counted on to ask questions without good faith, to ignore evidence that doesn't fit your narrative, change the goal posts, provide anecdotes as evidence, gaslighting, missing the forest for the trees, false comparisons, false equivalencies, whataboutisms and arguing semantics. Also guilty of frequently calling out Democrats but never calling out Republicans. And guilty of having different standards -providing evidence from sources with a clear bias like Fox and even more right leaning ones but disputing articles posted by others from more neutral sources like AP and NPR. Also double standards when it comes to evidence - you don't have to provide any, we should just take your word for it but you dismiss others that don't provide evidence. Then, when someone provides it, you find a way to dismiss it. Before you ask - nope, I'm not providing evidence. There's plenty - just look at your search history or mine. I have called you out for all of the above. Specifically regarding the NH divisive concepts bill, you keep ignoring all of the evidence that we have shown of the intended consequences of the law, including a bounty offered by a conservative group to turn in teachers for teaching divisive concepts. Your interpretation of the law is irrelevant. and can pull themselves up by the bootstraps. I NEVER said that. When you can't respond to me without dealing with the words I've actually said and have to argue something I didn't say, anything YOU have to say is inconsequential to ANY discussion.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 19, 2021 23:55:01 GMT
The site you linked doesn't get high marks in reliable reporting linkI'm going to google the case and see what's happening from a variety of sources. Which is why the first link I gave you was straight from the local news for that area. The second is opinion/analysis. But good for you, checking the reliability of your news sites. Way to turn over a new leaf. Cute. I've always done that, after years of watching sources be dismissed. That's why I've since been linking/quoting commonly accepted here Left leaning sites. Even those get dismissed when they don't back up what the Left is asserting. I've even posted the link on another occasion in the last couple of months. I found this: It's also still an ongoing case, so we can't really compare an outcome with this case.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 19, 2021 22:41:10 GMT
Show a case where a black teenager used lethal self defense and the video show that the person he shot pointed a gun at him and advanced on him before the black teenager shot him, and the one that got shot said yeas, I pointed my gun at him and advanced on him BEFORE he shot me and with all of that evidence or anything resembling that kind evidence and the black teenager went to jail for a clear case of self defense. When you can do that you might have a point. When you ask this question, I don't feel you're asking in good faith because an exact equivalent occurrence will not be available. We can come very close but it will not be exact so you will dismiss it out of hand. It's a pattern for you. I realize it will not be exact and can accept that, I even stated that. It is not a pattern for me to dismiss something like this as it's never come up. It' is a pattern for me to ask for proof of a very specific accusation made. And it's often dismissed not by me, but by the person making the accusation because they can't actually back it up. Much like your accusation here.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 19, 2021 22:37:41 GMT
Show a case where a black teenager used lethal self defense and the video show that the person he shot pointed a gun at him and advanced on him before the black teenager shot him, and the one that got shot said yeas, I pointed my gun at him and advanced on him BEFORE he shot me and with all of that evidence or anything resembling that kind evidence and the black teenager went to jail for a clear case of self defense. When you can do that you might have a point. www.wtoc.com/2021/09/23/day-2-marc-wilson-hearing-attorney-found-contempt-court/www.google.com/amp/s/newsone.com/4222087/ga-black-driver-stand-your-ground/amp/Marc Wilson was almost run off the road by a group of drunk white kids shouting racial slurs at him. He fired in self defense and killed one of them. Unlike Kyle, he was denied bond and has been sitting in jail for over a year. We’ll see if he is acquitted. The site you linked doesn't get high marks in reliable reporting linkI'm going to google the case and see what's happening from a variety of sources.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 19, 2021 22:19:12 GMT
What did I restate into some version that no longer resembles anything close to what was said in reality in order to argue with the non reality version? I’ll let you think about it. It’s all about inaccuracy. Nope. A vague accusation is cheap and meaningless. If you think I restated something into some version that no longer resembles anything close to what was said in reality in order to argue with the non reality version, then show where I did it.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 19, 2021 22:15:30 GMT
I think it’s bs. How can someone illegally possessing a gun, murdering two people and severely injuring a third be declared innocent? For one thing there is video showing that he was getting his skull and faced bashed in by a mob and the person he shot pointed a gun at him and advanced on him BEFORE Kyle shot him, and the one that got shot said "yes, I pointed my gun at him and advanced on him BEFORE he shot me." How are you STILL not getting that?
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