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Post by Bridget in MD on Oct 28, 2022 0:58:53 GMT
I'm kind of shocked by the cover. I had hoped (and thought) it was going to be toned down, not quite so fanning the flames, esp after the Queen's death. Now I see kind of why they pushed back the release. I really wonder if Pr Harry is going to regret this. I know people have called the brothers "the heir & the spare" but a part of me really hoped that once he broke away from the BRF he was going to be his own man, and really own himself/make something of himself. Instead, it seems he keeps reaching back to the drama to make himself relevant. I guess he really has nothing else to write about that people are interested in, so if he's going to do this, he's got one shot. http://instagram.com/p/CkOCElRLSAH
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Post by kate on Oct 28, 2022 1:06:18 GMT
I will read it. I'm a sucker for a good memoir.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Oct 28, 2022 1:18:36 GMT
I've always liked Harry. My view of him-them has changed in the past year or so. With that said, I think Meghan is the controlling factor behind everything that the Prince is or isn't doing.
I think had he not met Meghan, his current life would be very different, and I think he'd still be a working member of the Royal Family.
I think Meghan expected to be the next Princess Diana, and when she wasn't worshipped, and when she was told what she can and cannot do as a member of the Royal Family, she didn't like it. I think she then said-decided I'm done, and Harry is along for the ride.
This book is a final passive aggressive petulant act of "burning the proverbial royal bridge". Exactly how Meghan wants it, because she didn't get her way.
Edited to add: I'll read it, because I want to see what it says.
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Post by pjaye on Oct 28, 2022 1:30:03 GMT
When I saw that on Twitter yesterday, I honestly thought that was a pretend cover someone made up to mock this book. Then I looked at some other sites and discovered that it seems to be the real thing.
"Spare" - what a joke, clearly he hasn't matured at all and we're going to get 400 pages of poor old Harry (the world's oldest, whiniest teenager) blaming everything on his birth order and everyone else in his family for his own failures. As a second son he had the freedom and finances to do almost anything he wanted with his life, and instead he's chosen a life of petty bitterness and to focus on the one thing he will never be, but his brother will. The fact that at 40yo and with 2 kids, he makes this the title of his book tells us everything we need to know. It should be called "Spare...us"
And that cover? I had to laugh when I read a comment that said: "that photo looks like one of those facial reconstruction jobs that forensic anthropologists do when they find the skull of a neanderthal man in some ancient burial pit"
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Post by Bridget in MD on Oct 28, 2022 1:35:03 GMT
This book is a final passive aggressive petulant act of "burning the proverbial royal bridge". Exactly how Meghan wants it, because she didn't get her way. Edited to add: I'll read it, because I want to see what it says. I totally agree. I’m not sure I’ll read it. It’s not really my thing. I don’t mind reading articles and blogs and SM stuff but just not sure a whole book when he’s really not done anything compelling appeals to me.
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Post by mom on Oct 28, 2022 1:36:00 GMT
Well I won't read it as I refuse to give him a dime. But I will read what others say about it.
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Post by myshelly on Oct 28, 2022 1:36:32 GMT
Does anyone else enjoy the subreddit Saint Meghan Markle (our lady of perpetual victimhood)?
I have been THOROUGHLY entertained by the threads on this book there.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Oct 28, 2022 1:36:34 GMT
When I saw that on Twitter yesterday, I honestly thought that was a pretend cover someone made up to mock this book. Then I looked at some other sites and discovered that it seems to be the real thing. "Spare" - what a joke, clearly he hasn't matured at all and we're going to get 400 pages of poor old Harry (the world's oldest, whiniest teenager) blaming everything on his birth order and everyone else in his family for his own failures. As a second son he had the freedom and finances to do almost anything he wanted with his life, and instead he's chosen a life of petty bitterness and to focus on the one thing he will never be, but his brother will. The fact that at 40yo and with 2 kids, he makes this the title of his book tells us everything we need to know. It should be called "Spare... us" And that cover? I had to laugh when I read a comment that said: "that photo looks like one of those facial reconstruction jobs that forensic anthropologists do when they find the skull of a neanderthal man in some ancient burial pit" Lmao spare us!!! I love it! I saw people comparing it to Andre Agassi’s book cover, Open.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Oct 28, 2022 1:36:57 GMT
Does anyone else enjoy the subreddit Saint Meghan Markle (our lady of perpetual victimhood)? I have been THOROUGHLY entertained by the threads on this book there. Omg no but looking it up immediately!!!!!
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Post by belgravia on Oct 28, 2022 1:40:12 GMT
I have to admit I don’t really get the vitriol towards Meghan and Harry (not just here…they seem pretty universally despised). I’m sure I’ll read the book…$47 on Amazon.ca for the hardcover! Having said that, I kinda feel badly for him. He has made some crappy choices, but who hasn’t. I’d imagine living your life publicly while always being referred to as “the spare” would fuck you up a bit.
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Post by mom on Oct 28, 2022 1:43:19 GMT
When I saw that on Twitter yesterday, I honestly thought that was a pretend cover someone made up to mock this book. Then I looked at some other sites and discovered that it seems to be the real thing. "Spare" - what a joke, clearly he hasn't matured at all and we're going to get 400 pages of poor old Harry (the world's oldest, whiniest teenager) blaming everything on his birth order and everyone else in his family for his own failures. As a second son he had the freedom and finances to do almost anything he wanted with his life, and instead he's chosen a life of petty bitterness and to focus on the one thing he will never be, but his brother will. The fact that at 40yo and with 2 kids, he makes this the title of his book tells us everything we need to know. It should be called "Spare...us"And that cover? I had to laugh when I read a comment that said: "that photo looks like one of those facial reconstruction jobs that forensic anthropologists do when they find the skull of a neanderthal man in some ancient burial pit" 100%. He could have been in a position to change the world, for good. And what's he doing? Bitching and complaining because he is the 'Spare'. Since he's left the Royal Family, he has done what? Not much other than an Oprah interview and this will be the second book whining about his past (but for sure not mentioning dressing up in a Nazi uniform or when he referred to other soldiers with racist names and then filmed it).
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Post by mom on Oct 28, 2022 1:43:41 GMT
Does anyone else enjoy the subreddit Saint Meghan Markle (our lady of perpetual victimhood)? I have been THOROUGHLY entertained by the threads on this book there. Ha. I will need to go find this. Sounds like something I'd love.
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Post by KiwiJo on Oct 28, 2022 1:44:06 GMT
I have no interest in reading it, Although I am very interested in all things Royal (British royalty, that is). It is no secret that Harry has suffered mentally for many years and has not fully recovered, and I think it is a huge mistake for someone in his position (both mentally, and as a member of his family) to ‘go public’ like this. I would take anything written in the book with a grain of salt - it could be a well-written and balanced account of things, or it could be the writings of someone wanting to score points, or be anywhere in between. The thing is that we, the general public, will have no way of knowing.
I agree with ScrappinMyLife that Meghan found things were not as she had imagined they would be, and that she has enormous influence over him. I don’t really have much time for either of them these days, but I very sincerely hope that things work out for them and that they remain a close couple because otherwise I am afraid that Harry will suffer hugely.
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Post by mom on Oct 28, 2022 1:46:12 GMT
I have no interest in reading it, Although I am very interested in all things Royal (British royalty, that is). It is no secret that Harry has suffered mentally for many years and has not fully recovered, and I think it is a huge mistake for someone in his position (both mentally, and as a member of his family) to ‘go public’ like this. I would take anything written in the book with a grain of salt - it could be a well-written and balanced account of things, or it could be the writings of someone wanting to score points, or be anywhere in between. The thing is that we, the general public, will have no way of knowing.I agree with ScrappinMyLife that Meghan found things were not as she had imagined they would be, and that she has enormous influence over him. I don’t really have much time for either of them these days, but I very sincerely hope that things work out for them and that they remain a close couple because otherwise I am afraid that Harry will suffer hugely. I would imagine Her Majesty would say 'recollections may vary' (again) if she was around to see this book.
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Post by chaosisapony on Oct 28, 2022 1:59:37 GMT
I enjoy a good memoir from time to time so I might decide to read this. It's currently listed at $18 for the Kindle version on Amazon. I wouldn't pay that much for ANY ebook, ever. If/when the price comes down or I find it available at the library then I'll consider it.
I was supportive of Harry leaving his role as a working royal a couple of years ago when I thought he was seeking some healing and privacy. In working towards that I could even understand and support the Oprah interview or even this book as a once off. But when all of these different things keep coming up over and over again it starts to just look like a money grab from one of the most privileged people on Earth. I hope that eventually he's able to let go of his animosity towards his family and enjoy some peace in life.
ETA: Is anyone else put off as "Prince Harry" being listed as the author? I'd take it a little more seriously if it wasn't a giant close up of his face and used whatever his full name is.
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Post by amp on Oct 28, 2022 2:02:54 GMT
I don't see how being "spare" can be used as an excuse...look at Prince Edward and Sophie...he was the forth child, and he works hard and follows all the BRF expectations. Also, Princess Anne was the second, like Harry, and a female (not in the line of succession) and she is one of the hardest working royals. And neither of them whine constantly...they don't whine at all.
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Post by pjaye on Oct 28, 2022 2:27:40 GMT
Does anyone else enjoy the subreddit Saint Meghan Markle (our lady of perpetual victimhood)? I have been THOROUGHLY entertained by the threads on this book there. No...I'll have to check it out. I've been calling them The Duke & Duchess of Perpetual Grievances
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Post by pjaye on Oct 28, 2022 3:06:23 GMT
I have to admit I don’t really get the vitriol towards Meghan and Harry (not just here…they seem pretty universally despised). I’m sure I’ll read the book…$47 on Amazon.ca for the hardcover! Having said that, I kinda feel badly for him. He has made some crappy choices, but who hasn’t. I’d imagine living your life publicly while always being referred to as “the spare” would fuck you up a bit. He hasn't been referred to that his whole life. When he was born someone (and it might have even been Diana said she produced an heir and a spare) but apart from that he hasn't regularly been referred to in that way. "Third" would have been more accurate as for most of his life he was third in line (to the throne) to William's second, and that seems to be what he's really bitter about. And I don't get why he's so bent out of shape about it anyway, he's just one in long line of "spares"...because that's exactly what the line of succession is, why is he acting as if he's the only one? William could just as easily have taken a petty lifelong offence to that line because it was basically saying that if he dies it's no big deal because Harry is there to replace him...but he didn't. Unlike Harry who will obviously never get over being jealous of his brother.
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Post by christine58 on Oct 28, 2022 3:13:17 GMT
I still don’t think that Prince Charles or rather King Charles is his father. Would that be something
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Post by pjaye on Oct 28, 2022 3:35:50 GMT
I still don’t think that Prince Charles or rather King Charles is his father. Would that be something I am 100% certain Harry knows who his biological father is, there's been too many rumors and for sure he had a DNA paternity test long ago. FTR, I think it is Charles, if it wasn't I'm sure Harry wouldn't be continuing with all these court cases about security etc and ongoing emotional blackmail of his family, because they (the royals) could easily let it get out that he was just a commoner and wasn't entitled to any of it anyway. Nope, Harry knows it's Charles otherwise he'd be a lot more careful.
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Post by belgravia on Oct 28, 2022 3:47:10 GMT
I have to admit I don’t really get the vitriol towards Meghan and Harry (not just here…they seem pretty universally despised). I’m sure I’ll read the book…$47 on Amazon.ca for the hardcover! Having said that, I kinda feel badly for him. He has made some crappy choices, but who hasn’t. I’d imagine living your life publicly while always being referred to as “the spare” would fuck you up a bit. He hasn't been referred to that his whole life. When he was born someone (and it might have even been Diana said she produced an heir and a spare) but apart from that he hasn't regularly been referred to in that way. "Third" would have been more accurate as for most of his life he was third in line (to the throne) to William's second, and that seems to be what he's really bitter about. And I don't get why he's so bent out of shape about it anyway, he's just one in long line of "spares"...because that's exactly what the line of succession is, why is he acting as if he's the only one? William could just as easily have taken a petty lifelong offence to that line because it was basically saying that if he dies it's no big deal because Harry is there to replace him...but he didn't. Unlike Harry who will obviously never get over being jealous of his brother. I don’t know, I’ve always heard Harry referred to as the spare…but he’s certainly not the first royal to have that unfortunate nickname. I’m not a devotee of the monarchy but I am kinda interested to read his book.
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Post by sueg on Oct 28, 2022 6:45:20 GMT
I don't see how being "spare" can be used as an excuse...look at Prince Edward and Sophie...he was the forth child, and he works hard and follows all the BRF expectations. Also, Princess Anne was the second, like Harry, and a female (not in the line of succession) and she is one of the hardest working royals. And neither of them whine constantly...they don't whine at all. Princess Anne is in the line of succession, just she comes behind her two younger brothers because she is female. BTW - that law has been recently changed (but not made retrospective) so Princess Charlotte wasn't 'demoted' when Prince Louis came along. I won't be reading the book. There will be enough of the 'highlights' reported in the press to give a general sense of the tone of the book anyway.
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Post by gillyp on Oct 28, 2022 7:53:27 GMT
I still don’t think that Prince Charles or rather King Charles is his father. Would that be something If you see the amount of media coverage we get here and see Charles and Harry together, their similarity is clear. Harry looks far more like Charles than William does and no, I’m not alluding to anything with regard to William. I like the point that had a DNA test been done and ruled against Charles, that would have been a bargaining point for the Royal Family. I can’t think of any reporters, biographers etc who now comment on this, I think it’s old hat and gossip. I think the title of the book is ridiculous and petty. The term heir and spare has been used for donkeys years, even centuries. He’s certainly not the first to be so described. The title could at least have been original. My first thought, too, on looking at the cover yesterday was that it was an ancient man scientific reconstruction. Will I read it? I’ll not buy it but I’ll happily read any extracts in the press. I don’t believe he can be truly happy with how things have turned out, his family yes but not the course of his life. Would he have been any happier had he and Meghan stayed and continued as the Fab Four? Who knows. I think the comment that Meghan expected to be feted like Diana is not far from the truth. I would still be happier for the whole family if bridges could be mended.
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Post by gar on Oct 28, 2022 7:54:50 GMT
It just all makes me so sad. Sad that it's come to this, sad that he (and William) lost their mother at such a young age which obviously affected them terribly, sad that he and William don't have a great relationship any more when they were so close, sad that our Royal family is going to be dragged through the mud again with this book... As ScrapbookMyLife said (can't get the quote to work) "I think had he not met Meghan, his current life would be very different, and I think he'd still be a working member of the Royal Family. I think Meghan expected to be the next Princess Diana, and when she wasn't worshipped, and when she was told what she can and cannot do as a member of the Royal Family, she didn't like it. I think she then said-decided I'm done, and Harry is along for the ride. This book is a final passive aggressive petulant act of "burning the proverbial royal bridge". Exactly how Meghan wants it, because she didn't get her way." This is exactly how I feel and I guess I feel bitter towards Meghan for that reason. I was thrilled when it seemed he'd met the love of his life, I loved the wedding and the prospect of new royal babies etc but it quickly went sour sadly and things are forever tainted now, whether or not the brothers ever become close again. And the book? Well it's just going to make it all worse.
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Post by wellway on Oct 28, 2022 8:20:54 GMT
I'm another who won't be spending my money on this, I'm sure it will be quoted and discussed to death on all the media platforms.
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Post by gillyp on Oct 28, 2022 8:36:29 GMT
This is exactly how I feel and I guess I feel bitter towards Meghan for that reason. I was thrilled when it seemed he'd met the love of his life, I loved the wedding and the prospect of new royal babies etc but it quickly went sour sadly and things are forever tainted now, whether or not the brothers ever become close again. And the book? Well it's just going to make it all worse. I felt exactly the same. Thrilled that “our Prince” had found his love and looking forward to both of them playing an important role in the family. It is such a shame how it turned out. I think the biggest catalyst was the birth of his children. As a new parent his own upbringing would be forefront in his mind and he would be thinking that no child should have been treated the way he was and the resentment just grew and grew, fanned by Meghan. I really believe with the passing of time and becoming more mature, Harry will come to realise just how hurtful all this mess is - to many, not just the RF, but by then it will be too late.
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 28, 2022 9:56:19 GMT
He’s now a married man with 2 kids. In other words, an adult. At this point, he is starting to sound whiny. How many times is he going to whine about past grievances? Seeking help if he has unresolved issues would be productive and helpful. This looks like a money grab.
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Post by joelise on Oct 28, 2022 10:14:14 GMT
I would like to read the book but I won’t buy it. I’m sure the papers will give us plenty of excerpts!
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Post by unknown pea on Oct 28, 2022 10:19:40 GMT
As a second son he had the freedom and finances to do almost anything he wanted with his life, and instead he's chosen a life of petty bitterness and to focus on the one thing he will never be, but his brother will. The fact that at 40yo and with 2 kids, he makes this the title of his book tells us everything we need to know. It should be called "Spare... us" 100%.
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Post by leannec on Oct 28, 2022 11:25:26 GMT
My 75 year old mum and I share an e-reader account ... I hardly ever read these days and she is voracious! She loves books about the Royal Family so I have already preordered this one ... she will drink it up! I doubt that I will read it ... I think Harry is a spoiled baby these days ... Meghan rules the roost!
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