YooHoot
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Post by YooHoot on Jul 9, 2015 0:40:18 GMT
Oh my god. How horrible for you and your baby! I'm glad Maggie is okay!
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Post by amandatx on Jul 9, 2015 0:49:11 GMT
I am so so sorry!!! I agree with you about pitbulls, our sweet neighbor heard what she thought was a knock one evening on her door and her little dog was with her as she opened the door and a pit grabbed her dog!!! It was terrible, my husband her husband and another neighbor came over to help pry the little dog out of the pit's mouth, my neighbor had several bites requiring stitches, as did all 3 men and the owners were upset that it counted as 4 incidents and the dog needed to be put down! My neighbor's little dog (I have no clue on breeds he was tiny like 6lbs or so) did not survive.....T
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Post by chaosisapony on Jul 9, 2015 0:54:27 GMT
IME, it comes down to three main reasons. Someone wants to feel big and bad and having a tough dog makes them feel tough. Drug dealing. In my area this is very much the case. I ride my horse on dirt roads (public ones) near my mom's house. It seems like lately every other house in that part of the county has become a pot farm. Fine, whatever. Problem is, these farms are being protected by HUGE, aggressive dogs. These dogs seem to be specifically chosen because they look intimidating. One house even put large, wide leather collars on them and has the collars padlocked shut. I don't understand any functional reason to do that except it looks intimidating. I was riding my horse one day when two of the huge pit bulls ducked under the fence and came after us. They could have been more aggressive but the size of the horse made them a little uneasy and they did not immediately attack, thank god. I swung my horse around and ran straight at the dogs and they ran off. But I noticed they didn't go far, they stayed hidden under trees and bushes and stalked us. It was incredibly unnerving. I had to chase them back 3 times and by that third time they were not very afraid anymore. I was able to ride part way up to the owners house and screamed as loud for them as I could until they came out. I pointed out the problem with the fence and we haven't had a repeat of that situation since. It could have so easily gone wrong though. And to top it all off about ten minutes later a little boy of 8 or 10 was jogging down the road. They would have torn him apart before he knew what happened. I shudder to think of what might have happened to that little boy had I not been able to get the owner's attention. OP, I'm so sorry for what you and Maggie went through. I hope she recovers quickly.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 9, 2015 0:59:28 GMT
I am so sorry that this happened to you and to your Maggie. Extra treats and hugs and loving on her!! I hope that pit is put down.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 1:05:22 GMT
Oh, no...I'm so sorry for you all. I'm glad everyone is going to be okay (if not quite emotionally for a while). Give that little sweetie a smooch for me.
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 9, 2015 1:30:05 GMT
What an awful experience elaine, for both you and Maggie. I hope you both heal quickly and you will not take too long to be comfortable out walking again. Our Maltipoo was attacked by a Boxer Chow a year ago and it is truly one of the most terrifying things I have ever experienced. I'll never forget the sounds and the terrified look in our pup's eyes.
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Post by gailoh on Jul 9, 2015 1:38:43 GMT
I am so sorry to hear of this...hugs and prayers to you...and your pup...
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jul 9, 2015 1:53:34 GMT
I just read this thread. What a horrible experience Elaine. I'm glad you and your pet are going to be okay.
There was a story in the news this morning about a six-year-old boy mauled to death by a pit bull in North Carolina. He climbed a chain link fence into the neighbors's yard to "play with the dog". It's heartbreaking to hear of children killed by dogs like that.
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Post by marimoose on Jul 9, 2015 2:37:46 GMT
I hope that you and your pup can continue to heal long after the physical wounds mend. That would be so terribly frightening.
Pitbulls are illegal in Denver but people still have them and manage to get away with calling them by another name in many cases. There are several breeds that look quite similar. It irritates me because that breed just doesn't belong in the city. I have met a few that are the sweetest, cutest dogs but I know that you should never trust them and I don't.
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Post by Zee on Jul 9, 2015 2:38:15 GMT
That's terrible. I'm glad you're both going to be ok.
I did have to add, though, that when I first got my beautiful smiley yellow lab Gracie she tried to take a bite out of my cousin's fortunately very mild-mannered pit bull, who had an almost human look of surprise when his friendly greeting to Gracie almost cost him his nose. Any dog can be unpredictable.
You're completely right though that no one who can't physically control their dog should ever walk it. That's my feeling on that. If you can't hold your dog back, you need a smaller dog.
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Post by annabella on Jul 9, 2015 2:51:27 GMT
Wow I'm so sorry that happened to you and Maggie! How scary! Did the owners call animal control? I agree with you on pitbulls. The other day I went to go visit a friend and was walking down the sidewalk and saw a woman my age with a large pitbull. The woman was on the left and the dog on the right so I moved to the left so I would be on the same side as the human. But then she switched sides, and the dog saw me and looked interested. She had her leach very long and me and the dog had a very long staring match as his leach was diagonal over the whole sidewalk and I was not about to walk by the dog. I was beyond pissed at the owner, did she think I was going to pet her dog, I didn't say anything because I didn't want to anger the owner, but the whole time I was thinking WTF move your dog out of my way, how long do I have to stand here staring at her? People like that should not own dogs.
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Post by Gravity on Jul 9, 2015 2:57:50 GMT
I'm so sorry Elaine. Hope your baby heals quickly. This is one of my fears. Not a just with pits, but any large, aggressive dog. We have 2 four pound chihuahuas, so they wouldn't stand a chance. Does anyone carry dog spray like mace that works well? I need to look into getting something to protect my little guys. My vet told me to carry a can of wasp spray after my Maltese was attacked by a neighborhood Chow mix. He said it works well because it shoots far and makes their eyes burn. Unfortunately, it does not poison the attacking dog. Elaine, I am so sorry this happened to you and your sweet pup. ((HUGS))
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Post by Really Red on Jul 9, 2015 3:07:14 GMT
That scared me. A dog on a leash with three adults, the cone of shame and still could attack.
I'm sure that one pit bull out of 40 has a great owner and is a great dog. Not worth it for the other 39 who suck. Stop saying it's about the owner. STOP it! It is the breed. Period. I hope they ban them.
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Post by jenn on Jul 9, 2015 3:21:44 GMT
That's terrible. I'm glad you're both going to be ok. I did have to add, though, that when I first got my beautiful smiley yellow lab Gracie she tried to take a bite out of my cousin's fortunately very mild-mannered pit bull, who had an almost human look of surprise when his friendly greeting to Gracie almost cost him his nose. Any dog can be unpredictable. You're completely right though that no one who can't physically control their dog should ever walk it. That's my feeling on that. If you can't hold your dog back, you need a smaller dog. Yes, any dog may bite, but the difference is with a pit is that once they clamp down it is very difficult to remove them.
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Post by Mary Kay Lady on Jul 9, 2015 3:43:53 GMT
I am so sorry that happened to you and your sweet dog. I'm sure that you were terrified, I know that I would have been. I hope that the both of you recover quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 3:44:44 GMT
I'm so sorry Elaine. Hope your baby heals quickly. This is one of my fears. Not a just with pits, but any large, aggressive dog. We have 2 four pound chihuahuas, so they wouldn't stand a chance. Does anyone carry dog spray like mace that works well? I need to look into getting something to protect my little guys. I have been tempted to buy bear spray for walking my dogs. My dad has some for when he goes hiking in the mountains. Obviously it is used to stop bear attacks. If it can stop a black bear or grizzly bear then it should be able to stop an aggressive dog. I think camping and sporting goods stores sell it.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 9, 2015 4:18:33 GMT
IME, it comes down to three main reasons. Someone wants to feel big and bad and having a tough dog makes them feel tough. Drug dealing. Lastly, it's becoming very un-PC to say anything about a particular breed. All the "it's not the breed, it's the owners" BS. So some people want to show how "with it" they are and prove they're right by having a sweet pit. Problem is, behavior is CLOSELY related to genetics in dogs. That's why you can say that a Golden is typically laid back and great with kids. A toy poodle is nervous and high-strung. A German Shepherd is decisive. Pits and other bully breeds were bred to be on the attack. And unfortunately, due to dog fighting, they were bred over and over for fighting other dogs. I saw an interview about research being done to breed out aggressive behavior. It takes at least 8 generations of very selective breeding (which I doubt any of the people mentioned on this board can actually do themselves) to breed out aggressive behavior. Yes, that is true for all animals without the brains that humans do, and a large frontal cortex. Think of bees, for example, they have very complex sets of behavior that is all genetically controlled. They live in hives and build bee hives all due to genetic code. Dogs have been been bred for over a thousand years to do different kinds of work - from herding to ratting to guarding to being companions to fighting. A large portion of their behavior is controlled by genetics. You "might" be able to train a golden to herd sheep, but it will take a LOT of work and effort. Meanwhile, a border collie will exhibit many of those desirable behaviors with little training, mostly shaping. One often has to train borders NOT to herd the family or groups of kids running pell-mell at the playground. Pitbulls are bred to have fighting encoded in their genetics. That is who they are, just as herders are who border collies are (my first dog was a border, I had him 13 years). There are plenty of Pitbulls who are sweet to their owners, but their genetics shape who they are at a basic core level. And I don't want that strolling my neighborhood any more than I want coyotes or bobcats out walking the sidewalks. In their need to disprove the pitbulls reputation people tend to forget their gentics and breeding Depending on the source, pits have the strongest jaw/bite with the German Shepherd Dog having the second strongest. We have a guy that walks two very well behaved pits in our neighborhood. I always worry that they or our GSD will somehow get loose and get into a fight. Our dog is not aggressive but they are both dominate, strong breeds.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 9, 2015 4:33:04 GMT
My pup was chased by a coyote in December. He has such a great, fun personality, but when we go for walks, he is checking over his shoulder still. I hate that is still scares him. He did go postal on the coyote and then the coyote went after my sheltie.
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Post by buckeyegirl on Jul 9, 2015 5:05:42 GMT
I am getting pissed off just reading about what happened to your sweet pup and all the other dogs on this thread. I am glad Maggie is going to be ok. My sweet shih tzu Tyson was attacked by our neighbor's pit bull who jumped our fence to get to him. It is truly horrible to hear your dog screaming for their life. This is especially hard for me to read because he just passed away in March and he was the best dog ever. I will never forget that day and hearing my doggie screaming and running out to pry a pit bull off of him at 9 months pregnant. I love dogs more than most people, but I truly hate most pit bulls. The one that attacked Tyson was owned by a police officer and had his AKC Good Citizen Award. Big F@#$%&* deal!
I read recently where over the last 10 years 65% of all attacks by dogs against children were from pit bulls. We just recently moved in part to get away from our pit bull loving neighbors (they recently got 2 more.) What do you know at our new house, our neighbor's daughter and son-in-law moved in with them and they have a pit bull puppy that they promised us would always be taken out on a leash and now they have broken that promise and are letting him out off leash. I am very angry and do not want a repeat of what happened to Tyson. I am trying to decide how I am going to approach this with them.
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Post by JoP on Jul 9, 2015 5:43:18 GMT
I'm so sorry elaine that you and your pup suffered such an awful ordeal . I'm so glad that you'll both be okay sending you (((hugs))) for a speedy recovery
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jul 9, 2015 5:48:44 GMT
Crikey! I am so sorry. Poor little Maggie. Another one who firmly agrees that killer dogs have no place in a residential area. Am glad that the dog's owner has taken responsibility, and hope that she is true to her word re covering your costs. xx
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 5:57:43 GMT
These stories are horrifying. I just adopted a little dog on July 4th and I haven't taken her out yet. I'm waiting til Friday when she has her spay stitches removed. We saw the vet on Monday, she weighs just over 4 pounds. She'd never survive an attack of any kind.
Thankfully I have a huge backyard that's fully fenced. I think I'll just run her there.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jul 9, 2015 5:58:56 GMT
How terrible! I hope you and Maggie both make full recoveries quickly.
I agree with your OP, Elaine. I've been blasted on here before for saying I don't think pits make good pets.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jul 9, 2015 6:23:30 GMT
(((HUGS))). I'm so sorry that happened. I too fear pit bulls. Glad that you were able to save her. I've heard puppy screams and it's horrible. Once, not long after we adopted our Meeka (shih tzu) the neighbors dogs got in our fence gate and chased her. They are labs and usually pretty friendly but one did manage to get it's mouth on her (no bite marks etc, just slobber). Not sure if they wanted to play or hurt her. Either way she was screech horribly while running with dd trying to grab her and me opening the door to the house as I heard the commotion and yelled for her to run inside. I will never forget it. Poor baby shook for a long time and is now terrified if she even sees them on the other side of the fence and even a bit if she hears them barking. Anyway (((HUGS))) for you and Maggie and fast recovery vibes. I've had labs, and it's very possible it was in retrieve mode since it used a soft mouth (no teeth). That's why hunters use them to go get birds they shoot. That is not an excuse to go after another dog. And in your own yard, no less!
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Post by cawoman on Jul 9, 2015 6:28:52 GMT
I too am so sorry this happened to you and Maggie. I am terrified of pit bulls. Unfortunately some family members think they are the sweetest dogs (not immediate family). I won't go to their house to visit. And they have a newborn. Scares me to death.
One of my friends and her husband have a Pitt. When I visit them they put her in the backyard because they know I'm not comfortable around her. I just don't understand how people can take the chance with kids or other dogs.
I sure hope you both recover soon!
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Jul 9, 2015 6:56:25 GMT
All good thoughts for healing for Maggie and for you. Healing from the physical and the emotional trauma. How very scary for you all.
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Post by Marina on Jul 9, 2015 6:58:07 GMT
I am so nervous of stray dogs for this reason when I walk my dog. How simply horrible. I had a dog go after my golden recently but no injuries and I was shaking afterwards. I can't imagine your ordeal.
I hope both you and your sweet Maggie heal quickly.
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Post by heartcat on Jul 9, 2015 9:49:09 GMT
Oh elaine I am sooo sorry to read this! {{Hugs}} I am glad that Maggie is going to be all right. I am glad that the other dog is being put down. I have no tolerance for pets that are a danger to other people or other pets. I do not believe that pit bulls are inherently 'bad dogs'. But I think it is dangerous and naive for people to say that it is 'all' about how you train and socialize a dog. The reality is that some dogs have a higher prey drive built into them than others. Some dogs present a greater potential physical danger than others because of their size and build. Pit bulls are a combination of both. In the debates we used to have on the old board I have always advocated for breed specific legislation, as well as tougher laws for 'all' dog owners, including criminal liability if your dog injures someone else or their pet. It might make people reconsider some of the breeds of dogs we own now. I have also maintained that in general they present a greater danger to other animals, than they do to people. Not all, or even most, pit bulls are going to prove to be dangerous. But if and when they are, because of their strength and the fact that it is very difficult to end an attack, the potential is there for maximum damage. I don't believe in rounding up and destroying all pit bulls, most are wonderful, gentle, loving dogs, like all dogs. But I do not think they should be legal to own in urban and suburban areas. Continued good thoughts for Maggie, and you, as you recover from this ordeal.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jul 9, 2015 11:37:00 GMT
I am so sorry! I was gasping out loud as I was reading your story! I am glad that she wasn't more seriously injured. I had 2 dogs, a shepherd huskie whippet mix and a corgi-shetland mix who were both attacked by a dog that was off leash. The dog also bit my husband. The owner tried to say that it was my dogs fault. Um no, your dog was off leash and mine were not.
What happened with reporting the dog? Do you know who these people are?
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Post by ingrid6 on Jul 9, 2015 11:49:08 GMT
How horrifying! Just reading this made my heart hurt. I can't even begin to imagine what it would have been like to actually witness the attack. I hope you both heal quickly.
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