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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 9, 2015 19:22:07 GMT
i have to tell you that reading your story is heartbreaking. I have tears in my eyes and i got the adrenaline rush just reading your story. please don't blame it on the breed. that dog was bad, but pitbulls aren't. i realize you probably won't take this into consideration realizing the pit just attacked your pup, but i promise you, they're not all attack dogs born to fight. That's not a promise you have any right to make. www.dogsbite.org/yeah, because that website is totally objective. (not)
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 9, 2015 19:29:24 GMT
Guys, I appreciate that this is a free board and all, but with what Elaine has just gone through, could we possibly keep this as a thread for her and start a new thread to defend pit bulls and/or attack their owners?
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Post by its me mg on Jul 9, 2015 19:58:04 GMT
i agree, freecharlie ..... i didn't mean to hijack your thread elaine. i'm glad your puppy is going to recover, and i'm sorry it was attacked.
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Post by ilikepink on Jul 9, 2015 20:12:01 GMT
I'm not a dog person at all, but I felt horrible reading what happened - I hope you both recover quickly and completely!
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Post by azredhead on Jul 9, 2015 20:27:24 GMT
What a horrifying attack for your puppy and I hope for a quick recovery. I hope you and her are both okay. I am so glad for a happy outcome. I can't imagine how scared you were!! I hope she continues to recover keep us posted on how things go. My heart goes out to you and her!! It was so hard to read your story!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 20:32:02 GMT
Until very recently, my brother was dating a pitpull lover nazi--she was ALWAYS campaigning about how it's the owner, not the breed, and to think otherwise is discriminatory, blah blah blah. I realize that logically, she might have been right, but I was never comfortable around her dogs and didn't let my son spend much time with them. I was relieved when she and he broke up (for many reasons).
My friend was jogging in her neighborhood and a pit broke out of its yard and attacked her. Anyway, all that to say, I share your feelings. I'm sorry your poor pup was hurt and I'm glad he will be ok.
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Post by imsirius on Jul 9, 2015 20:54:49 GMT
Funny I should come on here and read this after what happened in a neighbourhood in my city late last night.
A man was out on his front lawn pruning his bushes. Out of NOWHERE, came a pitbull charged at him and attacked. The man was being dragged and the neighbours were out full force after hearing his screams. The people struggled with the dog and finally got the dog off the man. The man's throat was ripped to shreds and he died after 911 was called. Dog was shot by police after deeming that he was too out of control to handle. It took THREE grown men to pull the dog off this poor man who was doing nothing and was attacked from behind.
I'm so sorry for your puppy Elaine. I am also sorry for the breed who when treated properly, can be a lovely dog but they are very aggressive and I'm hearing more and more about pitbull attacks.
It's a shame all way round.
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Post by jenn on Jul 9, 2015 21:44:01 GMT
Yes, any dog may bite, but the difference is with a pit is that once they clamp down it is very difficult to remove them. They are no more difficult to remove than other large breed dogs, and in fact they are easier to remove than a German Shepard or a Rott. There have been many studies done about different dogs bites, the force, the way they bite, etc. Below is just one example that can be easily found doing a quick google search if anyone is actually interested. "One study conducted by Dr. Brady Barr of National Geographic showed that the average domestic canine has an average bite of 320 pounds of force. In one portion of the documented study, Dr. Barr tested three dog breeds: a German Shepherd, a Rottweiler, and an American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT). The Rottweiler bit with 328 pounds of force—the highest ever recorded from a domestic dog. The German Shepherd bit with 238 pounds of force, and the APBT bit with 235 pounds of force." I am SO sorry that this happened to you Elaine (and Maggie!). I can't even imagine how scary this was for you. I am so very thankful that Maggie wasn't more seriously injured (and she is loving on you again!). I do own a Pitt mix (Pitt and Shar Pei). He is our baby. But on the same token, I have put him through a LOT of training to make sure that he will *always* listen to me. He has his Good Samaritan Certification, he has had behavioral training, extensive obedience training. Not because he needed it, he has never been a problem. But it made me feel better knowing that he has it. He has never been aggressive to anyone or anything, not even to the idiot pizza delivery guy that just walked into our house a few weeks ago. Opie just ran up to him, tail wagging, and sat at his feet with his goofy grin wanting to be scratched behind the ears. I am NOT saying all Pitts are perfect dogs. But I am also not going to say that all dogs are perfect. TBH, I am more scared of small dogs than I am big ones (no joke, I am a baby around smaller dogs. Been bit too many times by the little ones). I am not a crazy Pitt advocate. I just stupid crazy about mine Picture of Opie this past Sat in my husbands squad car. My DH is an animal control office w/the police department. Saturday Opie was part of their 4th of July parade. He sat on my lap hanging out the window (fully leashed and controlled!) while in the parade, thinking that everyone was there to see him lol According to my vet and trainer it is true. I had a pit from birth (brother brought home a pregnant dog) and Lu Lu was very loved and very well trained. She won many obedience awards and we all trusted her. One horrible afternoon she attacked my neighbor and clamped onto her knee. I could not open or remove her jaw. This attack was unprovoked and she my neighbor loved the dog. My vet knew and loved my dog and she agreed that we needed to put her down, since she could no longer be trusted around people. According to both the vet and the trainer, pits have a way of clamping and locking their jaws which makes it impossible to remove the jaw until the dog is ready to let go. OP... How are you and your pup doing today?
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Post by scrappinmom3 on Jul 9, 2015 22:14:23 GMT
I am so sorry that you and Maggie had to go through something as horrible as that. I hope she is quickly on the mend!
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Post by Dixie Lou on Jul 9, 2015 23:02:56 GMT
What a horrific thing to happen to you and your pup! How are you both today?
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Post by marimoose on Jul 9, 2015 23:25:14 GMT
I hope that you and your pup can continue to heal long after the physical wounds mend. That would be so terribly frightening. Pitbulls are illegal in Denver but people still have them and manage to get away with calling them by another name in many cases. There are several breeds that look quite similar. It irritates me because that breed just doesn't belong in the city. I have met a few that are the sweetest, cutest dogs but I know that you should never trust them and I don't. Our local shelters always have a high number of Pit Bulls and I noticed recently that they are now listing them as American Staffordshire Terriers. That is exactly the name I have been hearing. Our shelters would not allow up pit bulls for adoption, even before the laws changed or at least at the one I am most familiar with. There were a couple of other breeds that were unadoptable if there were any chance of children in the household. I just don't understand how a shelter could in good faith try to adopt out an animal, especially if they need to call it by another breed's name. Too risky and too dumb.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 23:50:54 GMT
I hope Maggie is doing better today, as well as you.
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Post by yoursweetwhimsy on Jul 9, 2015 23:55:53 GMT
Our local shelters always have a high number of Pit Bulls and I noticed recently that they are now listing them as American Staffordshire Terriers. That is exactly the name I have been hearing. Our shelters would not allow up pit bulls for adoption, even before the laws changed or at least at the one I am most familiar with. There were a couple of other breeds that were unadoptable if there were any chance of children in the household. I just don't understand how a shelter could in good faith try to adopt out an animal, especially if they need to call it by another breed's name. Too risky and too dumb. A pit bull is either a Stafforshire Terrier or an American Bull Terrier. In America, this is their official breed name.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 9, 2015 23:56:07 GMT
elaine (and everyone else) I apologize for my response upthread; I knew better, shouldn't have done it, but did it anyway. I truly am sorry, and I hope you and Maggie both make a speedy recovery!
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Post by elaine on Jul 10, 2015 0:00:32 GMT
What a horrific thing to happen to you and your pup! How are you both today? Thanks for asking! We are both on the mend. The meds are upsetting her tummy, but the bites don't look infected, so I'll take that. She doesn't want to walk outside, but her breeder encouraged me to get her back outside asap and not reinforce scared behavior, so we have gone out for a block twice today. She stops every 10 paces and checks around, and then practically runs when we head for home. Here she is right now chewing on a rawhide (if you click on it, she becomes huge):
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Post by elaine on Jul 10, 2015 0:02:01 GMT
elaine (and everyone else) I apologize for my response upthread; I knew better, shouldn't have done it, but did it anyway. I truly am sorry, and I hope you and Maggie both make a speedy recovery! No worries!
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Post by Dixie Lou on Jul 10, 2015 0:07:55 GMT
Oh Bless her little heart! Poor baby, she is scared! But I agree with your breeder about getting her back on that horse! I so so hope she recovers emotionally as well as physically as quickly as possible. Same for you! That was just a horrific thing to have happen.
Several years ago I was walking my "then" puppy and two dogs ran from their yard and were fully intent on attacking. I picked my puppy up and started kicking at them and their owner came running out and got them. Then another time I was at DOG OBEDIENCE class (of all places) and one of the dogs, a sharpei, jumped out of their car before the owner got the leash on her and attacked my puppy (same one.) I was so shocked, with my dog on his leash trying to get away from her, and she going after him , that I was about to kick the crap out of that dog. The owner came up and grabbed her. That was the last class that dog was at, unfortunately, because she obviously needed some training! Fortunately both times my dog was not hurt but it was traumatic.
Keep us updated on how your sweet doggie is doing!
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Post by pmk on Jul 10, 2015 0:51:10 GMT
That was just awful to read, I can't imagine the horror for you and Maggie. Hope you both recover from your injuries soon.
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Post by scrapperal on Jul 10, 2015 1:20:30 GMT
Happy to hear you both are on the mend. What a horrible event.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 1:41:28 GMT
What a horrific thing to happen to you and your pup! How are you both today? Thanks for asking! We are both on the mend. The meds are upsetting her tummy, but the bites don't look infected, so I'll take that. She doesn't want to walk outside, but her breeder encouraged me to get her back outside asap and not reinforce scared behavior, so we have gone out for a block twice today. She stops every 10 paces and checks around, and then practically runs when we head for home. Here she is right now chewing on a rawhide (if you click on it, she becomes huge): What a sweet face, and I'm glad to see she has her smile back! I'm glad you both survived and are on the mend. [[hugs]]
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 10, 2015 2:42:47 GMT
That is exactly the name I have been hearing. Our shelters would not allow up pit bulls for adoption, even before the laws changed or at least at the one I am most familiar with. There were a couple of other breeds that were unadoptable if there were any chance of children in the household. I just don't understand how a shelter could in good faith try to adopt out an animal, especially if they need to call it by another breed's name. Too risky and too dumb. A pit bull is either a Stafforshire Terrier or an American Bull Terrier. In America, this is their official breed name. True, but up until a year or so ago the shelters always listed these dogs as pit bulls and could not get anyone to adopt them. Most people don't know that pit bull isn't a breed and choosing to identify all these dogs as American Staffordshire Terriers is misleading.
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Post by elaine on Jul 10, 2015 2:56:24 GMT
I am sitting here with Maggie curled up next to me and thinking that in some ways it easier to bond deeply with dogs after you have kids. You realize how little they ask for compared with humans for all their gratitude and affection and loyalty.
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Post by yoursweetwhimsy on Jul 10, 2015 3:00:04 GMT
What is upsetting is that people don't research what kind of dog they are bringing home whether it be a Staffordshire, Shepard or whatever. Each breed has their own needs and issues. That is the reason, in many cases, that we get returns through the rescue. People don't do their homework and the dog isn't a good fit for their family.
I was at the vet last week and a man came in with his Staffordshire Terrier. Another woman asked him if the dog was, in fact, a Staffordshire. He got pissed and said, "No, it's a pit!". So he obviously had not done his research when choosing his dog.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 10, 2015 3:27:57 GMT
I'm glad Maggie is feeling better. She'll get less afraid as time goes on just like she started coming back to you How is your hand doing today?
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Post by keknj on Jul 10, 2015 3:29:27 GMT
I'm so sorry that you and your pup had to go through that awful experience. I hope she heals quickly and gets over her, truly deserved, fear of the outside.
My pup was attacked at the vets office by a pit mix. Luckily for the both of us I was able to snatch her up and she was not hurt. The vet was boarding the dog for the day and was letting it run around the office. I was ticked. The vet disappeared with the dog and the office ladies were upset with her. I got a phone call from her later apologizing but I never, ever went back to her office.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 10, 2015 3:30:04 GMT
What is upsetting is that people don't research what kind of dog they are bringing home whether it be a Staffordshire, Shepard or whatever. Each breed has their own needs and issues. That is the reason in many cases that we get returns through the rescue. People don't do their homework and the dog isn't a good fit for their family. I was at the vet last week and a man came in with his Staffordshire Terrier. Another woman asked him if the dog was, in fact, a Staffordshire. He got pissed and said, "No, it's a pit!". So he obviously had not done his research when choosing his dog. Training and breed research are two of the most important parts of dog ownership and also to often the most overlooked things
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Post by 2peafaithful on Jul 10, 2015 3:36:51 GMT
Oh my gosh. I am so very, very sorry. That sounds incredibly scary. I am so glad your dog is OK. I mean I know OK is relative but it could have ended much differently.
I had a pit attack my Sheltie before and I have witnessed it before. Both times the owner ran after them, yelling and the dog would only back off once it was injured from the male owner kicking it with everything they had.
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Post by Baseballmom23 on Jul 10, 2015 4:55:35 GMT
I'm so sorry this happened to you. Glad to read you both are doing better today
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Post by SallyPA on Jul 10, 2015 4:59:37 GMT
Oh your poor girl dog. Makes me so sick and I worry about dog attacks all the time. I'm so sorry you and she had to go through that - so terrifying.
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Post by JoP on Jul 10, 2015 6:13:12 GMT
Morning elaine, I hope you and Maggie are continuing to improve (((hugs)))
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