happymomma
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Post by happymomma on Jul 9, 2015 12:09:18 GMT
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Post by elaine on Jul 9, 2015 12:16:17 GMT
I am so sorry! I was gasping out loud as I was reading your story! I am glad that she wasn't more seriously injured. I had 2 dogs, a shepherd huskie whippet mix and a corgi-shetland mix who were both attacked by a dog that was off leash. The dog also bit my husband. The owner tried to say that it was my dogs fault. Um no, your dog was off leash and mine were not. What happened with reporting the dog? Do you know who these people are? There are animal control reports and police reports. The AC officer put both dogs on quarantine for 10 days. I had a lengthy opthamologist work up yesterday, so didn't check to see if the woman actually did take her dog to the shelter to have him put down. I don't know the people, just know that they live somewhere in my neighborhood. Since we have both single family homes and townhouses, it is hard to know everyone. I hadn't seen them out walking the dog before, so I'm guessing he wasn't walked much. It is sobering to read how many people have had such horrific experiences with their pups being attacked by other dogs. I hope that everyone gives their furry friends an extra belly rub and a milk bone treat today.
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Post by blondiec47 on Jul 9, 2015 13:02:14 GMT
How horrible, I can't even imagine what I would do in that situation. The issue is not pits but the idiots that own them. We have bulldogs and they have the same type of bite hold. I think that when you register your dog (don't all cities require dog licenses, if not they should) if you have a pit then mandated training etc should be required. We had a pit attack at our dog beach a couple of years ago--the owners were idiots, we also had 2 pits with good owners they were wonderful. Pits are perceived as tough dogs so all the thug wannabes get them and think they don't need any training--ALL dogs need training. Sad thing is these owners will just get another one and it will be just as bad because the owners are the problem. Again I am so glad you and your dog are going to be OK.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 13:10:33 GMT
That's terrifying! I hope you both make a full, speedy recovery.
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gloryjoy
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Post by gloryjoy on Jul 9, 2015 13:12:33 GMT
I hope you and Maggie are doing better today. Poor baby.
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Post by mamastone on Jul 9, 2015 13:35:31 GMT
How terrible for you both! Hope you are both feeling better each day.
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mimima
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Post by mimima on Jul 9, 2015 14:05:31 GMT
I'm so glad you and Maggie are going to be ok. How terribly scary
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 14:08:42 GMT
elaine, I felt my heart beat faster just reading what happened. I am glad both of you are okay. so glad you are both okay :yourock:for getting in there and saving your baby.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 14:10:43 GMT
I'm so sorry this happened to you and your puppy. I hope you BOTH start feeling better soon. I can't even imagine how terrifying that was for you both.
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Post by mnmloveli on Jul 9, 2015 14:11:59 GMT
I was horrified by your story and so scared for your dog. I know there are a lot of pitbull fans out there, but I'm not one if them. The fighting gene is in their blood so, even if you get them from a puppy, it still a personality trait in the dog. Praying for your dog's full recovery, physically & mentally.
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Post by tyra on Jul 9, 2015 15:09:28 GMT
That's terrible. I'm glad you're both going to be ok. I did have to add, though, that when I first got my beautiful smiley yellow lab Gracie she tried to take a bite out of my cousin's fortunately very mild-mannered pit bull, who had an almost human look of surprise when his friendly greeting to Gracie almost cost him his nose. Any dog can be unpredictable. You're completely right though that no one who can't physically control their dog should ever walk it. That's my feeling on that. If you can't hold your dog back, you need a smaller dog. Yes, any dog may bite, but the difference is with a pit is that once they clamp down it is very difficult to remove them. They are no more difficult to remove than other large breed dogs, and in fact they are easier to remove than a German Shepard or a Rott. There have been many studies done about different dogs bites, the force, the way they bite, etc. Below is just one example that can be easily found doing a quick google search if anyone is actually interested. "One study conducted by Dr. Brady Barr of National Geographic showed that the average domestic canine has an average bite of 320 pounds of force. In one portion of the documented study, Dr. Barr tested three dog breeds: a German Shepherd, a Rottweiler, and an American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT). The Rottweiler bit with 328 pounds of force—the highest ever recorded from a domestic dog. The German Shepherd bit with 238 pounds of force, and the APBT bit with 235 pounds of force." I am SO sorry that this happened to you Elaine (and Maggie!). I can't even imagine how scary this was for you. I am so very thankful that Maggie wasn't more seriously injured (and she is loving on you again!). I do own a Pitt mix (Pitt and Shar Pei). He is our baby. But on the same token, I have put him through a LOT of training to make sure that he will *always* listen to me. He has his Good Samaritan Certification, he has had behavioral training, extensive obedience training. Not because he needed it, he has never been a problem. But it made me feel better knowing that he has it. He has never been aggressive to anyone or anything, not even to the idiot pizza delivery guy that just walked into our house a few weeks ago. Opie just ran up to him, tail wagging, and sat at his feet with his goofy grin wanting to be scratched behind the ears. I am NOT saying all Pitts are perfect dogs. But I am also not going to say that all dogs are perfect. TBH, I am more scared of small dogs than I am big ones (no joke, I am a baby around smaller dogs. Been bit too many times by the little ones). I am not a crazy Pitt advocate. I just stupid crazy about mine Picture of Opie this past Sat in my husbands squad car. My DH is an animal control office w/the police department. Saturday Opie was part of their 4th of July parade. He sat on my lap hanging out the window (fully leashed and controlled!) while in the parade, thinking that everyone was there to see him lol
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Post by Jili on Jul 9, 2015 15:17:30 GMT
This was horrifying to read! I'm so glad that you and your puppy are OK.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 9, 2015 15:18:43 GMT
Elaine, I'm sorry. I hope both you and the puppy feel better fast.
Haven't read all five pages, so I hope I'm not dropping into the middle of an argument about pit bulls or something.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 15:44:14 GMT
We had a pitbull that attacked our beagle in our own yard. Our dogs had on shock collars so that they could not leave the yard. This pit came into our yard and attacked Buddy. He had him on the ground by the neck and was literally choking him. It took 3 adults and a metal ball bat to get this dog off of buddy.
Our next door neighbor was the one that used the ball bat. She used to be an animal control office in Florida and she said the only thing that EVER got one to release was some sort of heavy object or being forcefully attacked by a person and thrown off of the other dog.
Scary day for sure.
Also, an elderly friend of mine was attacked about two months ago. He was also walking his dog and they were both attacked by this pit. His dog ran home but my friend had to have 87 stitches in his arm and had severe road rash on his hands, elbows and knees. The only thing that got him to let go was being wrestled by another man and pinned down until animal control could get there.
I am sure there are some pits that are perfectly sweet animals, but I will fully admit that I am terrified of them.
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Post by finsup on Jul 9, 2015 15:45:32 GMT
Your story gave me the chills, and then other posters' stories did the same and made me angry for so many of you. Time for some serious coloring therapy, Elaine!
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Post by genny on Jul 9, 2015 16:22:17 GMT
That is awful! I am so glad you and Maggie are going to be ok!
The Boston terrier we used to have was an escape artist. If the front door was open even a hair, he nosed it open and pushed the screen door and took off. He escaped one time and DS and I took off after him. He went straight to our new neighbors house (who didn't have a fence installed yet). They had a pit bull that was an inside dog, but they always had him chained when they were outside. My crazy dog instigated, I don't mind admitting. But he wasn't growling or snarling, just trying to get close enough to sniff then would bound away and come back when the pit would growl and lunge. We couldn't grab him. The homeowner (who I'd only met once and was a HUGE muscular military guy) grabbed the chain the dog was on to pull her back so I could get my dog without fear of getting bitten. The chain broke at the collar and the pit was on Wilbur in a flash. It happened so fast we were shocked. My ds (about 11 at the time) got to them first despite my screaming at him to stop and JUMPED ON THE PIT's BACK! ladies, I stopped worrying about the dumb dog right then - in a flash I saw my son dying by a pit bull right before my eyes. I grabbed him by the collar of his shirt and threw him off the dog. The neighbor tackled his dog to the ground like he was fighting a man while I grabbed my dog. He got the dog in a full nelson wrestling move to subdue it while I got away with my dog and my kid. I was out of breath, covered in dirt and scratches from wrestling around in the dirt…Wilbur was a little bruised and a lot scared, but the dog didn't even break the skin.
It was scary as hell. Minutes later the neighbor was at our house apologizing, wanting to inspect wounds and pay for any emergency care to either us or the dog. It was awful, and the dog was gone the next day. Although he said the dog had never attacked or bitten before and was sweet and docile with their family they wouldn't risk keeping it in a neighborhood after what had happened. I can't tell you how relieved I was.
That being said, we have a new neighbor with a pit bull now is the biggest baby and sweetest love I have ever seen. Calm and just the best dog. She and my cat have become BFF's and its the sweetest thing to watch.
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Post by molove on Jul 9, 2015 16:23:51 GMT
Wow Elaine--that's unbelievable!!
You and that sweet puppy are both very lucky. I will preface this with I have known a few pit bulls in my life that are gentle and sweet. Their owners have trained them beautifully. My little Mo can be a vicious little jerk because he's old and cranky. He looks like a puppy and not threatening at all. I don't let people near him to pet him anymore because he's snippy. I've seen pit bulls let kids crawl all over them and they play and are wonderful. Back in the day when Mo was a puppy (14 years ago) he let kids crawl all over him and loved playing. Those days are gone. He's super cute and looks like he wants to play all the time. He doesn't have near the strength of a pit bull, but still.
But this I know about pit bulls. When they attack, they go for the kill. I can't believe your Maggie survived. Especially since he had her around the neck. I hope your hand heals and you and your family can recover from this. It's very sad and traumatizing (big duh).
I, too, just cringed while reading your story. The thought of a dog getting hurt and almost killed one of the most disturbing and horrific things ever.
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Post by calgal08 on Jul 9, 2015 16:30:59 GMT
I'm sick to my stomach for you
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Post by casii on Jul 9, 2015 16:38:18 GMT
So frightening, I can't imagine.
We have a neighbor behind us that breeds Rottweilers. Listening to them tussle in their back yard scares me to death, so I have a healthy fear of big dogs, even though I have a 70 lb mutt.
I hope your wounds heal quickly, both physically and emotionally
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Post by coffeetalk on Jul 9, 2015 16:43:44 GMT
I'm shaking having read this. I hope you and your sweet Maggie are doing better today.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 9, 2015 16:46:13 GMT
So frightening, I can't imagine. We have a neighbor behind us that breeds Rottweilers. Listening to them tussle in their back yard scares me to death, so I have a healthy fear of big dogs, even though I have a 70 lb mutt. I hope your wounds heal quickly, both physically and emotionally ^^^ just have to comment on this-- our dogs do this too (they're Shelties, so much smaller, only about 30 lbs) and when they play, they can absolutely sound like the hounds of Hell. They're just playing, though- you can't really go by how they sound.
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Post by heartland on Jul 9, 2015 17:05:31 GMT
I'm so sorry that this happened to you - how awful and scary it must have been! (((hugs))) to you and your sweet Maggie...I hope you are both feeling better soon!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 17:52:19 GMT
I'm so, so sorry that happened Elaine, and I'm so glad your sweet furbaby survived.
I hate pitbulls too. I've heard of way too many attacks over the years to trust them, and my son is not allowed to go into a house with a pitbull. I hope your sweet girl recovers quickly!
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Post by elaine on Jul 9, 2015 17:56:20 GMT
Wow Elaine--that's unbelievable!! You and that sweet puppy are both very lucky. I will preface this with I have known a few pit bulls in my life that are gentle and sweet. Their owners have trained them beautifully. My little Mo can be a vicious little jerk because he's old and cranky. He looks like a puppy and not threatening at all. I don't let people near him to pet him anymore because he's snippy. I've seen pit bulls let kids crawl all over them and they play and are wonderful. Back in the day when Mo was a puppy (14 years ago) he let kids crawl all over him and loved playing. Those days are gone. He's super cute and looks like he wants to play all the time. He doesn't have near the strength of a pit bull, but still. But this I know about pit bulls. When they attack, they go for the kill. I can't believe your Maggie survived. Especially since he had her around the neck. I hope your hand heals and you and your family can recover from this. It's very sad and traumatizing (big duh). I, too, just cringed while reading your story. The thought of a dog getting hurt and almost killed one of the most disturbing and horrific things ever. Thanks, June! I think that I've held back on giving her a summer cut and left that very fluffy full puppy coat on is what prevented much worse damage. The vet thinks it helped shield her some. I really thought she was a goner when he was running with her and shaking her by the neck like she was a stuffed chew toy. We are so lucky. I am sitting here watching her sit on her window seat in our front bay window watching the world and very happy to have her.
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Post by Lexica on Jul 9, 2015 18:24:17 GMT
I too had a physical reaction when reading your post. My pup is 9 pounds, and I have a fear of him being attacked while we are out.
My neighbors had two enormous pit bulls that have attacked three times that I know of. It was horrible to watch and I was helpless to do anything other than to run down the street to get the owner of the dog being attacked.
Another attack was when a small boy was walking a friend's dog on a leash on the other side of the street. As he came to the pit bull house, the dogs inside the home actually broke through the glass on the front large window to get to the child and dog. Fortunately the child dropped the leash and ran screaming back to his home so he wasn't attacked. Neighbors and the owners eventually separated the dogs, but the victim dog was too badly injured to survive.
The couple have divorced and moved away, and the whole neighborhood was relieved to have those dogs gone. They were a menace, especially since keeping them inside the house wasn't enough to stop them if they decided to attack.
I would recommend you do what I do when out with my dog. I carry pepper spray as well as a stun gun just for this specific reason. I want to be able to protect my little guy if another dog were to go after him. My thoughts are to use the pepper spray before the dog gets close enough to bite, but if that isn't possible, I have no guilt over using the stun gun on it. I love dogs, but if one is hurting my dog, regardless of the breed of it, I'm going to do whatever I can to stop an attack.
I don't know if the stun gun would make a pit bull release their jaws, but I have to at least try. They are both legal in my community. You might want to see what the regulations are where you live and carry something with you on future walks. .
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 9, 2015 18:25:46 GMT
I hope that you and your pup can continue to heal long after the physical wounds mend. That would be so terribly frightening. Pitbulls are illegal in Denver but people still have them and manage to get away with calling them by another name in many cases. There are several breeds that look quite similar. It irritates me because that breed just doesn't belong in the city. I have met a few that are the sweetest, cutest dogs but I know that you should never trust them and I don't. Our local shelters always have a high number of Pit Bulls and I noticed recently that they are now listing them as American Staffordshire Terriers.
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Post by its me mg on Jul 9, 2015 18:36:51 GMT
i have to tell you that reading your story is heartbreaking. I have tears in my eyes and i got the adrenaline rush just reading your story. please don't blame it on the breed. that dog was bad, but pitbulls aren't. i realize you probably won't take this into consideration realizing the pit just attacked your pup, but i promise you, they're not all attack dogs born to fight.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 9, 2015 19:05:25 GMT
So frightening, I can't imagine. We have a neighbor behind us that breeds Rottweilers. Listening to them tussle in their back yard scares me to death, so I have a healthy fear of big dogs, even though I have a 70 lb mutt. I hope your wounds heal quickly, both physically and emotionally ^^^ just have to comment on this-- our dogs do this too (they're Shelties, so much smaller, only about 30 lbs) and when they play, they can absolutely sound like the hounds of Hell. They're just playing, though- you can't really go by how they sound. I agree While we were camping I was walking back to the rig from the restroom. I heard banging around and saw it moving. I figured dh was packing up early, nope, it was our GSD and Samoyed playing If our rig's rocking it's probably the dogs!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 19:12:12 GMT
i have to tell you that reading your story is heartbreaking. I have tears in my eyes and i got the adrenaline rush just reading your story. please don't blame it on the breed. that dog was bad, but pitbulls aren't. i realize you probably won't take this into consideration realizing the pit just attacked your pup, but i promise you, they're not all attack dogs born to fight. That's not a promise you have any right to make. www.dogsbite.org/
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Post by its me mg on Jul 9, 2015 19:19:18 GMT
im sure we can find a few of us refupeas who were owners or are owners. i can show you pics of me sitting as a baby with sunglasses on while my pitt Lady is hanging out next to me. I had a dog named Jake who was a pit and he was scared of his own tail. I shared a bed with him for several years, and I'm still here to tell you the story. my parents have a pitbull, and she does more tricks then my own chocolate lab! "All" pitbulls are not bad.
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