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Post by shescrafty on Jun 27, 2016 19:10:53 GMT
There are some posters that regularly post what I feel are articles or opinions just to bait others into arguments, and it works!
I often read the chaos that follows and wonder why people engage knowing that their opinions will fall on deaf ears and likely just make the person who starts the post to feel good about what they have done. The constant posts that seem to be purposefully obtuse or intentionally missing the point.
I often wonder why people just don't put people they *always* argue with on ignore. I don't mean disagree with, I mean just flat out those who can't ever make coherent posts and really argue just for the sake of arguments.
So if you can't help yourself-why do you argue with someone or respond to people that you know will make you nuts? Lol π
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Post by mom on Jun 27, 2016 19:16:07 GMT
My only is guess is that they get some sort of high off instigating crap. Or maybe they see annoying people as a hobby.
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Post by annabella on Jun 27, 2016 19:18:07 GMT
I saw a new troll start a thread the other day and it stayed on page one for a whole day going 2 pages, I didn't get it! Why would you respond to that? Let it die and disappear.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 19:19:20 GMT
I attempted a discussion in the past week but after the first response by the poster I could feel the trap I had fell into and stopped posting. The perfect situation would be a thread started by the person with no responses...just crickets and tumbleweeds as the post fell off to page 100.
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Post by shescrafty on Jun 27, 2016 19:20:32 GMT
My only is guess is that they get some sort of high off instigating crap. Or maybe they see annoying people as a hobby. I am wondering more about the people who respond to what typically can be seen as "here we go" posts rather than those who start them. I kind of know why they do it, lol
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Post by shescrafty on Jun 27, 2016 19:22:17 GMT
I attempted a discussion in the past week but after the first response by the poster I could feel the trap I had fell into and stopped posting. The perfect situation would be a thread started by the person with no responses...just crickets and tumbleweeds as the post fell off to page 100. Exactly!!!! or if they start to post stupidity in another thread they could just be 100% ignored. again I don't think disagreeing with someone is bad-but there are a few posters that seem to post just to piss people off.
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Post by padresfan619 on Jun 27, 2016 19:22:24 GMT
I often wonder the same thing and usually want to post asking, but then I realize I'm just contributing to the madness in the particular thread. I never thought to start a brand new one, so thanks! Now I don't feel bad about asking the same thing.
No one is going to change anybody's mind when the discussion is that rabid, so what's the point?
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jun 27, 2016 19:26:46 GMT
OMG! You read my mind!! Half the time I am like. ah..WHY would anyone respond to that? why?? Here, let me just get a brick wall for you to beat your head against, so you can move on.
The other WTF? moments on here are there are a few mean, nasty posters, and they post mean and nasty responses all the time. Yet when they come on here and ask a question, people are ALL over giving them help. It's a WTH? moment? It's like giving a naughty kid a treat or rewarding their bad behavior. I say just ignore them.
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Post by sharlag on Jun 27, 2016 19:26:49 GMT
The perfect situation would be a thread started by the person with no responses...just crickets and tumbleweeds as the post fell off to page 100. I concur!
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Post by ilikepink on Jun 27, 2016 19:26:50 GMT
I might open the thread and read it for amusement, but try not to take it seriously. I'm sure that some people are not as stupid as they sound, but maybe not. I have a FB friend who will post political things to my wall that he know I disagree with, just to get me to respond. Most of the time I acknowledge the post, and decline to comment. Other times, if I'm up for it, I'll argue it - just for the joy of the argument, knowing I won't change his mind any more than he'll change mine.
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Post by gar on Jun 27, 2016 19:31:35 GMT
I think initially there's a"Well, it's worth a try!" moment, then when your point of view is deliberately being skewed or ignored it's hard not to reply because in most walks of life you'll get a reasoned response. I can see through it completely now because it's beyond my frame of reference to see/hear someone think or argue in that way in real life. It is futile, completely, and I refuse to be fodder for that any more. Watching can still be fun though!
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Post by cmpeter on Jun 27, 2016 19:36:27 GMT
Yes! I wonder the same thing. I also wonder about the "passes" some of the really nasty peas tend to get and why the heck that recent troll thread got so much traction.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jun 27, 2016 19:42:46 GMT
I often wonder the same thing and usually want to post asking, but then I realize I'm just contributing to the madness in the particular thread. I never thought to start a brand new one, so thanks! Now I don't feel bad about asking the same thing. No one is going to change anybody's mind when the discussion is that rabid, so what's the point? I've wondered the same thing. I used to respond to one person but then realized it always just ended up being us going back and forth. She will never accept anyone having a different opinion than hers. I put her on ignore because it was pointless to 'try' to have a discussion with her. Now I clearly see it wasn't just me, she does it to everyone. She is like a dog with a bone and can not let go. I wish others would put her on ignore too, but it's not for me to tell them what to do.
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Post by Country Ham on Jun 27, 2016 19:44:25 GMT
If something sparks my interest I figure why not. I don't know who are trolls, or who are people with way different views then I have. Just because someone has extreme views then the general norm doesn't make them trolls, just different. I also like to treat everything the same on the board as I am not better then any other poster.
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Post by Zee on Jun 27, 2016 19:44:59 GMT
OMG! You read my mind!! Half the time I am like. ah..WHY would anyone respond to that? why?? Here, let me just get a brick wall for you to beat your head against, so you can move on. The other WTF? moments on here are there are a few mean, nasty posters, and they post mean and nasty responses all the time. Yet when they come on here and ask a question, people are ALL over giving them help. It's a WTH? moment? It's like giving a naughty kid a treat or rewarding their bad behavior. I say just ignore them. Well, not everyone hates yubon. Some people are willing to look beyond the crusty, urine-soaked exterior to see the heart of gold (bwahaha!) underneath. Not that she'd ever do the same for anyone else, but some people just enjoy being helpful.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jun 27, 2016 19:46:22 GMT
I almost posted this the other day. I agree with you 100%. It's basic behavioral psychology 101. The more you engage, the longer the behavior will occur because you're reinforcing the behavior. Stop engaging and eventually the behavior will cease.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 19:47:33 GMT
I'm going to go out on a limb here...
When I started the thread about being nervous traveling to the States, I have real genuine anxiety about it. Some of you on this thread posted that I am a "shit-stirrer" and that really bothered me. I KNOW that there is a lot of anxiety about Muslims right now and I understand that. I HONESTLY try and show that most Muslims are normal people.
I do agree that there are a few Peas that will post flat out flameworthy stuff to just burn it up. But how people perceive posts is completely objective to the individual. What you deem "unworthy" might not be to others. Kind of an objective thing, don't you think?
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Post by brandy327 on Jun 27, 2016 19:47:40 GMT
The other WTF? moments on here are there are a few mean, nasty posters, and they post mean and nasty responses all the time. Yet when they come on here and ask a question, people are ALL over giving them help. It's a WTH? moment? It's like giving a naughty kid a treat or rewarding their bad behavior. I say just ignore them. YES!!! I've wondered this every single time I've seen it!!!
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Post by Zee on Jun 27, 2016 19:50:21 GMT
And another thing I hate are these passive-aggressive "call out"threads. You want to tell everyone to ignore rainbow or Lauren, go right ahead, that's your right...but you don't get to dictate who responds to whom around here, so you should maybe taking your own advice and ignore. I say that not unkindly, btw.
My scrolling finger works really well when I want it to. Mostly I find rainbow to be a very boring, and very bored, individual who thrives on any attention at all whether it's positive or negative. She's found that the latter is easier to get, so that's what she does.
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Post by annabella on Jun 27, 2016 19:53:43 GMT
Mostly I find rainbow to be a very boring, and very bored, individual who thrives on any attention at all whether it's positive or negative. She's found that the latter is easier to get, so that's what she does. I put her on ignore when the board started because she writes in colored font which on the blue background is hard to see. I have wondered does she have to change the font every single time she writes? Seems like a lot of effort. I don't know if that's supposed to make her posts stand out, but it just reminds me of a kid writing in crayon and I can't take it seriously.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 27, 2016 19:54:22 GMT
I saw a new troll start a thread the other day and it stayed on page one for a whole day going 2 pages, I didn't get it! Why would you respond to that? Let it die and disappear. Was Jello involved? You know how Peas and Jello go together.
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Post by gar on Jun 27, 2016 19:56:43 GMT
But how people perceive posts is completely objective to the individual. What you deem "unworthy" might not be to others. Kind of an objective thing, don't you think? In the majority of cases, yes. However there are some that are seen the same way almost unanimously. When that happens.....that idea really doesn't hold water any more.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jun 27, 2016 20:04:20 GMT
And another thing I hate are these passive-aggressive "call out"threads. You want to tell everyone to ignore rainbow or Lauren, go right ahead, that's your right...but you don't get to dictate who responds to whom around here, so you should maybe taking your own advice and ignore. I say that not unkindly, btw. My scrolling finger works really well when I want it to. Mostly I find rainbow to be a very boring, and very bored, individual who thrives on any attention at all whether it's positive or negative. She's found that the latter is easier to get, so that's what she does. I thought this was about both ornery just out to fight threads and arguing with people within threads. Mostly the political, gun or hot button issue threads. I answered about arguing within the threads, I don't really respond to the baiting threads, unless I was caught off guard and didn't realize that's what they were.
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Post by kellybelly77 on Jun 27, 2016 20:08:44 GMT
This is why my blocked poster list is soooo long!
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Post by shescrafty on Jun 27, 2016 20:19:29 GMT
And another thing I hate are these passive-aggressive "call out"threads. You want to tell everyone to ignore rainbow or Lauren, go right ahead, that's your right...but you don't get to dictate who responds to whom around here, so you should maybe taking your own advice and ignore. I say that not unkindly, btw. My scrolling finger works really well when I want it to. Mostly I find rainbow to be a very boring, and very bored, individual who thrives on any attention at all whether it's positive or negative. She's found that the latter is easier to get, so that's what she does. If I had wanted to tell people what to do I would have, lol. I wondered why people go back to argue constantly with the same posters with the same circular logic. It was a question and just like you can use your scrolling finger to go past those posts, you can also do it to mine. Recently my capacity for extending grace to others in what I see are bullshit situations has greatly diminished to the point that I often want to tell folks to f-off. So far I haven't, but have been pretty close.π My question was something that I regularly wondered about, so I asked.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jun 27, 2016 20:21:31 GMT
It's all about your perspective. What's trolling and inflammatory to you is right up someone else's alley. Most political threads I don't even open. I'm not interested in changing anyone's mind. They always devolve into entrenched camps on either side saying the same thing over and over in every post for pages. Now the dog pee on lawns thread was amusing at first, but after a while it was pretty repetitive. And I just can't come around to one of those sides. Our realities don't match and never will.
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Post by elaine on Jun 27, 2016 20:24:11 GMT
And another thing I hate are these passive-aggressive "call out"threads. You want to tell everyone to ignore rainbow or Lauren, go right ahead, that's your right...but you don't get to dictate who responds to whom around here, so you should maybe taking your own advice and ignore. I say that not unkindly, btw. My scrolling finger works really well when I want it to. Mostly I find rainbow to be a very boring, and very bored, individual who thrives on any attention at all whether it's positive or negative. She's found that the latter is easier to get, so that's what she does. If I had wanted to tell people what to do I would have, lol. I wondered why people go back to argue constantly with the same posters with the same circular logic. It was a question and just like you can use your scrolling finger to go past those posts, you can also do it to mine. Recently my capacity for extending grace to others in what I see are bullshit situations has greatly diminished to the point that I often want to tell folks to f-off. So far I haven't, but have been pretty close.π My question was something that I regularly wondered about, so I asked. This is me ^^^^ I know what the end result will be, but sometimes the posts are just so offensive that it takes more effort NOT to say something than go through the inevitable song and dance.
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Post by Country Ham on Jun 27, 2016 20:25:05 GMT
How is calling people out by name, analyzing their personalities etc make things any better. It's like a form of online bullying making threads like this where people can gather as a group and gang up on certain posters. The OP didn't go that far but by half way through names were slung around.
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Post by shescrafty on Jun 27, 2016 20:30:28 GMT
If I had wanted to tell people what to do I would have, lol. I wondered why people go back to argue constantly with the same posters with the same circular logic. It was a question and just like you can use your scrolling finger to go past those posts, you can also do it to mine. Recently my capacity for extending grace to others in what I see are bullshit situations has greatly diminished to the point that I often want to tell folks to f-off. So far I haven't, but have been pretty close.π My question was something that I regularly wondered about, so I asked. This is me ^^^^ I know what the end result will be, but sometimes the posts are just so offensive that it takes more effort NOT to say something than go through the inevitable song and dance. My friend and I have started saying "oh boy" when one of us is about to lose our shit. I accidentally said it outloud at a mega church at a funeral for somebody I didn't really know and got the stinkeye from the lady in front of me (and rightfully so! ). I totally thought it was just a whisper to myself but clearly it wasn't. In my defense it was 2 weeks after my daughter's funeral and I was in the way back corner of the ginormous mega-church with my husband and probably not really fit to be in public yet! But it has given us a good "here we go" phrase when crazy stuff is said, lol.
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Post by shescrafty on Jun 27, 2016 20:31:32 GMT
How is calling people out by name, analyzing their personalities etc make things any better. It's like a form of online bullying making threads like this where people can gather as a group and gang up on certain posters. The OP didn't go that far but by half way through names were slung around. I am sorry that happened.
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