We will not pay for that wall

All I'm going to say is that Vincente Fox kicks ass!

Not sure.  But then again, if you consider the "savings" in welfare monies, educating, providing medical care for and the costs of crimes committed by illegal aliens, it'll get paid a lot quicker.

Logic? Hahahahahahahahaha *deepbreath* hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Oh girl, my cousin told me today that Trump was going to deport my liberal snowflake ass when I expressed doubt that that Mexico could be made to pay for a wall, so a lot of people believe in it. 

What the plan is essentially to rob Peter to pay Paul. We'll be paying for it however Trump tries to market it. I'm curious if anyone watched his interview this evening and how that might've been addressed. 

Yep. But he will give us an "alternate fact" to explain it. 

I thought I read that this stupid wall will take over 700 years to pay off? Anyone else see that?

Somebody needs to sit him down and watch the video of the tunnels from Mexico to the US. He can build all the wall he wants, but they are still going to be able to come to America illegally.. I believe it was ABC that showed one tunnel some time in the last month or so. It was huge, had electric and there was a motorcycle in it to get from one end to the other. The drug lords should be able to make a fortune charging people to use their tunnel to the US.

He's just wasting our hard earned tax dollars building the damn wall.

Yep, I did but don't recall where. What I recall- It was written by a person who is for tighter immigration laws but also a stats guy and if we "made Mexico pay" for the wall by with holding $ going there now it would take 737(?) years to pay it off.

That's from my overloaded brain that can't recall details other than "insane".  Maybe I'll try google 

So, can someone answer a serious question I have? You're against the wall; you're against deporting people who are here illegally. How do you propose to deal with the never ending influx of people here illegally? How do you propose to deal with the financial drain on border states? How do you propose to deal with the crimes, the death, the injury and the losses caused by people who are here illegally (some of them whom have entered the country illegally several times?)

I think people are turning to a wall because no solutions to these issues are proposed or enacted. Merely saying "enforce the laws better" means nothing, especially when you have cities refusing to abide by those laws.

I don't think this will be as easy as he thinks. I've read some articles about the true hawks in the Republican party that aren't too keen on the billions it will cost to build then maintain (not to mention the billions in lost revenue - through taxes immigrants pay and their role in the economy). That also doesn't take into account other issues like potential lawsuits from eminent domain land grabs.

I think his supporters can understand a wall, but don't understand more nuanced immigration reform, which is really what is needed. The wall is flashy, but it's not a true solution. And I hope they do thorough vetting of companies bidding on contracts to make sure all their workers are legal. Don't want to be like the firm in San Diego that won a contract to bid a wall, then were found to be using illegal immigrants. Oops!

As for getting Mexico to pay. Yea, good luck with that. And anything we impose on Mexico can have unintended consequences. Does he really think all countries are going to bow down to us and give into our demands without any kind of repercussions?

As long as there are jobs here and people are trying to escape desperate circumstances, they will keep coming.

And many illegal immigrants don't even come through Mexico - they overstay visas. I read something that looked at the logistics of mass deportation and that would cost a fortune just in plane tickets alone (not to mention housing/feeding/taking care of people while cases worked through the system and the money needed to staff and train personnel).  

I think people would be surprised if they knew how many illegal immigrants Obama deported (focusing on those who commit crimes).

I think reform is needed to account for the huge part illegal immigrants play in the economy. 

Frankly, I think the drug thing is a lost cause. As long as there is a market here for it - it will keep coming. I think any solutions to the drug problem have to go to the root of the problems, rather than trying to prevent drugs from coming in the country (not that we should just let drugs flow freely, but I think it is a losing battle - especially when much the current opiate epidemic is a result of legal painkillers anyway).

I read a quote today from a Mexican newspaper humorist that said something like "Not to worry. The Mexican people are not stupid. When Trump went low, Michelle Obama taught Americans to go higher. For us when Trump builds high, no problem. We just go under!"

But supposing we do these things.  How do we prevent even more illegals from just slipping into our country?