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Post by elaine on May 10, 2017 20:45:35 GMT
Well then someone is lying. link
Who is to say that the Russian Photographer isn't also a member of the Russian Media? Even though the White House photographer isn't a member of the media and can't release anything to the public, just to White House officials to decide what to do with them, why would you assume that a Russian photographer is bound by the same constraints? Eta: The White House photographer should have been enough for both parties if it was truly a "closed" event.
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Post by friendly on May 10, 2017 21:16:22 GMT
Well then someone is lying. link
I'll give you the benefit of doubt that you're not lying because I don't know you in person, but it would seem that what I said was correct, not you.
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Post by missbennet on May 10, 2017 21:16:45 GMT
Now the rumors are flying that Spicey is in trouble and may be next. I can see it now: "Mr. Spicer, come out of the hedge, sir. The boss wants to see you." My outrage gland is overtaxed today, and I'm getting punchy.
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Post by mollycoddle on May 10, 2017 21:18:41 GMT
u Yep, if Trump said it, it must be true. It has nothing to do with the investigation of the Russian connection. Nope, absolutely not.
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Post by happymomma on May 10, 2017 21:22:12 GMT
u Yep, if Trump said it, it must be true. It has nothing to do with the investigation of the Russian connection. Nope, absolutely not. Oh of course not! Geez I'm pretty gullible and even I can't buy that. I do think this is going to bite him in the ass. Bigly.
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Post by mollycoddle on May 10, 2017 21:22:36 GMT
In October, Keith Olberman was so outraged he wanted Comey to resign or be fired. Now he's outraged that he's been fired. In July Comey was the greatest thing since he "cleared" Hillary. In October he was terrible because he brought up the existence of more classified but unsecure emails from Hillary. Now, in May, he's the greatest again, because Trump fired him. I can't keep up with the flip flopping outrage. Again, as others have said, it is the timing and the "reason" that are suspicious. I am no fan of Comey, but this looks bad.
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Post by mollycoddle on May 10, 2017 21:23:30 GMT
u Yep, if Trump said it, it must be true. It has nothing to do with the investigation of the Russian connection. Nope, absolutely not. Oh of course not! Geez I'm pretty gullible and even I can't buy that. I do think this is going to bite him in the ass. Bigly. We can only hope!
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Post by femalebusiness on May 10, 2017 21:56:34 GMT
I believe Comey's announcement about the emails before the election did indeed sabotage Clinton and change the election. However, I think he was in a no win position. If he didn't say anything he would be accused of covering up for Clinton. If he did announce, like he did, they would say he did it to help trump. In reality I think he was just trying to cover his own ass and made the wrong call. I do not really question Comey's integrity. He blew it but would have blown it either way.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 22:06:01 GMT
Well then someone is lying. link
Who is to say that the Russian Photographer isn't also a member of the Russian Media? Even though the White House photographer isn't a member of the media and can't release anything to the public, just to White House officials to decide what to do with them, why would you assume that a Russian photographer is bound by the same constraints?
Eta: The White House photographer should have been enough for both parties if it was truly a "closed" event. They're obviously not bound by the same constraints. The Russians have posted 12 photos on their mfarussia flicker account
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Post by oaksong on May 10, 2017 22:14:09 GMT
Yes, Democrats were outraged by Comey and called for his removal. Trump was happy not to oblige them, but now he is. I wonder what could have caused him to suddenly change his mind? That darn Hillary!
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Post by lindas on May 11, 2017 1:06:05 GMT
Well then someone is lying. link
I'll give you the benefit of doubt that you're not lying because I don't know you in person, but it would seem that what I said was correct, not you. I hope you didn't think I was implying that you were lying. The article I linked said just the photographers were there so one of the articles got it wrong.
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Post by elaine on May 11, 2017 1:13:56 GMT
I'll give you the benefit of doubt that you're not lying because I don't know you in person, but it would seem that what I said was correct, not you. I hope you didn't think I was implying that you were lying. The article I linked said just the photographers were there so one of the articles got it wrong. Not necessarily. What the Russians call a "photographer" may be what we would call a member of the media. For all we know that individual was/is primarily a reporter who can also take pictures, and the Russians said he was a photographer. If the media weren't allowed, the White House photographer should have been the only one there.
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Post by PLurker on May 11, 2017 1:37:18 GMT
In October, Keith Olberman was so outraged he wanted Comey to resign or be fired. Now he's outraged that he's been fired. In July Comey was the greatest thing since he "cleared" Hillary. In October he was terrible because he brought up the existence of more classified but unsecure emails from Hillary. Now, in May, he's the greatest again, because Trump fired him. I can't keep up with the flip flopping outrage. Again, as others have said, it is the timing and the "reason" that are suspicious. I am no fan of Comey, but this looks bad. Comey is the common denominator but two different subjects really. 1) Should Comey resign (back then) and 2) Why Trump fired Comey. Comey the main subject in first, Trump in 2nd.
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Post by busy on May 11, 2017 1:49:31 GMT
Just putting this here because it's too good to miss
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 1:57:36 GMT
I was beginning to think that I imagined the outrage against Comey going back to last July, and even in the past month. I joked with the managing partner today and said "so basically, all of the people that were screaming for Comey to resign or be fired are now screaming because he was?" He laughed. It's just more of the same and sadly, I'm not even a little bit surprised at the hypocrisy.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 2:11:03 GMT
I cannot speak for much of the "timing" of the firing but some of you question the reason? Our elected leaders (on both sides) lost all confidence in Comey. (including Chuck Shumer) I think much of America lost confidence in James Comey and questioned his ability to do the job.
The fixation from the left on Russia has yet to produce anything of substance. There was a hell of a lot more evidence regarding Clinton and Obama's disaster and cover-up in Benghazi than there is regarding Russia. Pretty soon the fixation from the left on Russia will surpass the alleged nuttiness the left now mocks the right for regarding Benghazi.
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Post by rodeomom on May 11, 2017 2:20:20 GMT
I cannot speak for much of the "timing" of the firing but some of you question the reason? Our elected leaders (on both sides) lost all confidence in Comey. (including Chuck Shumer) I think much of America lost confidence in James Comey and questioned his ability to do the job. The fixation from the left on Russia has yet to produce anything of substance. There was a hell of a lot more evidence regarding Clinton and Obama's disaster and cover-up in Benghazi than there is regarding Russia. Pretty soon the fixation from the left on Russia will surpass the alleged nuttiness the left now mocks the right for regarding Benghazi. Wow
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Post by lucyg on May 11, 2017 2:50:55 GMT
I cannot speak for much of the "timing" of the firing but some of you question the reason? Our elected leaders (on both sides) lost all confidence in Comey. (including Chuck Shumer) I think much of America lost confidence in James Comey and questioned his ability to do the job. The fixation from the left on Russia has yet to produce anything of substance. There was a hell of a lot more evidence regarding Clinton and Obama's disaster and cover-up in Benghazi than there is regarding Russia. Pretty soon the fixation from the left on Russia will surpass the alleged nuttiness the left now mocks the right for regarding Benghazi. This all sounds hauntingly similar to how Republicans were laughing off the Watergate burglary back in 1972 and mocking Democrats for wanting to dig deeper. And yes, I do actually remember. I voted for the first time in 1972. I think I'll just sit back and see what comes of the investigations, while you and your boss continue to laugh. We'll see who laughs last. Your boy is going down, if not for Russia, then eventually for something. He just can't seem to help himself.
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Post by PLurker on May 11, 2017 2:51:38 GMT
I cannot speak for much of the "timing" of the firing but some of you question the reason? Our elected leaders (on both sides) lost all confidence in Comey. (including Chuck Shumer) I think much of America lost confidence in James Comey and questioned his ability to do the job. The fixation from the left on Russia has yet to produce anything of substance. There was a hell of a lot more evidence regarding Clinton and Obama's disaster and cover-up in Benghazi than there is regarding Russia. Pretty soon the fixation from the left on Russia will surpass the alleged nuttiness the left now mocks the right for regarding Benghazi. Yet. Time will tell. I have no problem with them investigating (past or present) and coming to the facts and truth on either. (Russia/Benghazi) Let them investigate. Let the truth be found. With 45, in my mind the "timing"= reasons, as in self-interest or country's interest. I'm afraid the first may be of more interest and importance to him.
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Post by PLurker on May 11, 2017 3:10:14 GMT
just saw this tweet-exactly!
Adam SchiffVerified account @repadamschiff 5h5 hours ago
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Adam Schiff Retweeted Donald J. Trump
Mr. President, we do believe Director Comey erred in his handling of Clinton investigation. We just don't believe that's why you fired him.
PS How do you embed a tweet instead of just copy/paste? tried and failed! before
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Post by lucyg on May 11, 2017 3:12:37 GMT
just saw this tweet-exactly! Adam SchiffVerified account @repadamschiff 5h5 hours ago More Adam Schiff Retweeted Donald J. Trump Mr. President, we do believe Director Comey erred in his handling of Clinton investigation. We just don't believe that's why you fired him.
PS How do you embed a tweet instead of just copy/paste? tried and failed! before Damn. I wish Adam Schiff would run for senate. I'm dying to vote for him.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on May 11, 2017 3:21:50 GMT
In October, Keith Olberman was so outraged he wanted Comey to resign or be fired. Now he's outraged that he's been fired. In July Comey was the greatest thing since he "cleared" Hillary. In October he was terrible because he brought up the existence of more classified but unsecure emails from Hillary. Now, in May, he's the greatest again, because Trump fired him. I can't keep up with the flip flopping outrage. Because you refuse to look at it as any way but "flip flopping". It's not that he was fired, it's the "why now" under the current circumstances and what Trump has said about Comey during campaigning around the election and up until this last week, where most people have changed their view.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on May 11, 2017 3:26:51 GMT
PLurker1. Open the tweet 2. Copy the URL. IMPORTANT: If I'm on myiPad, I have to first delete the word "mobile." (including the period) from the beginning of the URL. 3. On the top of your post, click the icon with opposite-facing arrows. Then click the tweetie bird. 4. Paste in the URL and hit "embed." You might just see the code or a textless box, but it should display correctly in your post. (It took a whole long torturous thread for people here to teach me that...so I'm paying it forward.) Exhibit A:
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on May 11, 2017 3:27:42 GMT
Well then someone is lying. link
Well...it's not friendly who's lying! Based solely on the article you linked-- "Members of the U.S. press were not allowed into President Trump's Oval Office meeting Wednesday with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. Though the official White House schedule that was released Tuesday night said that the meeting would be closed to press, photos of it did emerge on Russian state-owned media TASS." It CLEARLY states that US press were not allowed, and then states that photos were released by Russian state owned media.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 3:28:56 GMT
just saw this tweet-exactly! Adam SchiffVerified account @repadamschiff 5h5 hours ago More Adam Schiff Retweeted Donald J. Trump Mr. President, we do believe Director Comey erred in his handling of Clinton investigation. We just don't believe that's why you fired him.
PS How do you embed a tweet instead of just copy/paste? tried and failed! before Damn. I wish Adam Schiff would run for senate. I'm dying to vote for him. You might get your chance to vote for him. I think it's time Diane Feinstein hang up her suits and come home to CA for good. You can see age is starting to take it's toll.
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Post by bc2ca on May 11, 2017 3:46:17 GMT
I cannot speak for much of the "timing" of the firing but some of you question the reason? Our elected leaders (on both sides) lost all confidence in Comey. (including Chuck Shumer) I think much of America lost confidence in James Comey and questioned his ability to do the job. The fixation from the left on Russia has yet to produce anything of substance. There was a hell of a lot more evidence regarding Clinton and Obama's disaster and cover-up in Benghazi than there is regarding Russia. Pretty soon the fixation from the left on Russia will surpass the alleged nuttiness the left now mocks the right for regarding Benghazi. Convening 2 grand juries tells me there is something of substance there. Time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 3:54:49 GMT
I cannot speak for much of the "timing" of the firing but some of you question the reason? Our elected leaders (on both sides) lost all confidence in Comey. (including Chuck Shumer) I think much of America lost confidence in James Comey and questioned his ability to do the job. The fixation from the left on Russia has yet to produce anything of substance. There was a hell of a lot more evidence regarding Clinton and Obama's disaster and cover-up in Benghazi than there is regarding Russia. Pretty soon the fixation from the left on Russia will surpass the alleged nuttiness the left now mocks the right for regarding Benghazi. I think you should read @merge's post where she pointed out that gosh darn us liberals have the capability to walk and chew gun at the same time. That we can be pissed at Comey but also understand the reason to keep him around for now. We are also smart enough to understand there may be a big fat nothing between trump, his band of merry little wreckers, and the Russians. But, as a country, we also need to know one way or the other, if the current occupant of the Oval Office or any member of his campaign colluded with the government of a foreign country to win the election. If you don't understand how important that is to this country well what can I say. But I have to say, regardless if there is anything "there" or not, your boy is sure acting suspicious, like he is indeed hiding something.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on May 11, 2017 4:10:36 GMT
The Washington Post just put up a veeeeery interesting article. The whole thing is worth a read. A source claims Rosenstein threatened to resign over the WH narrative that he initiated the Comey firing...many Justice and FBI employees are angry...Trump was furious at Comey for lots of things, including not backing up his Obama wiretap claims...the WH staff were completely unprepared for the firing, largely because the president didn't prepare them...and now he's mad at everybody but himself. Fascinating stuff. Inside Trump's Anger and Impatiencebtw: I posted earlier today that my husband works a lot with the FBI. Tonight he's saying that there's a lot of unhappiness about the manner in which Comey was fired. Culturally, federal law enforcement puts a high value on respect, and the way this played out profoundly violated that expectation.
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