pancakes
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Post by pancakes on May 15, 2018 4:15:36 GMT
I feel like Maghan has worked very hard to make it in Hollywood. From what I have read her home life sounds challenging and that she was not "privileged" with money and connections. I was surprised that she she went to Northwestern University since that is an elite school but she must of worked hard to get in. Imho Maghan has done the work to get where she is and took her own path and it sound like her father went on his own path too. While I am not getting the impression one or the other about her relationship with her Dad it seems like they just lived different paths. He isolated himself in Mexico and she a famous actress. I understand completely understand why she wanted her Dad to walk her down the aisle. The Dad though was so far removed from her life that he was not ready for all the parasites who were going to influence him negatively. He needed his own pr team to guide him through this process and if he wants any relationship with the couple he'll certainly need guidance. Hey now, private schools aren’t only for the “elite” in financial or social status. I went there for grad school and had to take out 100% student loans minus my scholarships, but nevertheless, I am definitely not from a rich family with connections. I wouldn’t put that on her list. You can come from a supportive family (or not at all) and still have to work hard to get wherever you want to be.
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on May 15, 2018 5:14:04 GMT
I am amazed at the number of people who are saying he should have hired a pr firm. I would think that a great many people do not have the means to do that. No I’m saying Megan or the royal family should have.
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Post by kernriver on May 15, 2018 8:18:10 GMT
She was right to not invite the rest of the clan. They really are making it difficult for her.
hope she’s very happy next weekend.
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Post by gillyp on May 15, 2018 9:22:10 GMT
I am sorry for both the bride AND groom if this is causing them distress before what should be such a happy time. Harry will no doubt be furious that he can’t protect Meghan from all the baggage, prying etc that comes with being a part of the Royal family, and those willing to take advantage of them. I’m not suggesting Mr Markle was doing that but definitely the press and probably estranged relatives.
There are photos of Meghan’s sister in law and nephews arriving at Heathrow earlier. They are apparently here to provide “insight and commentary” (my words) on proceedings and will feature in one of our breakfast television shows. I think it’s one Piers Morgan hosts so that’s a good enough reason to not watch it.
The Royal family have weathered worse than this and they will come through it, hopefully with a new member who will be a great asset to them and hopefully with the lovely bride being able to put any glitches behind her in the day and thoroughly enjoy herself. I, for one, would be very happy to see her mother walk her down the aisle.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 9:24:59 GMT
I feel like Maghan has worked very hard to make it in Hollywood. From what I have read her home life sounds challenging and that she was not "privileged" with money and connections. I was surprised that she she went to Northwestern University since that is an elite school but she must of worked hard to get in. Imho Maghan has done the work to get where she is and took her own path and it sound like her father went on his own path too. While I am not getting the impression one or the other about her relationship with her Dad it seems like they just lived different paths. He isolated himself in Mexico and she a famous actress. I understand completely understand why she wanted her Dad to walk her down the aisle. The Dad though was so far removed from her life that he was not ready for all the parasites who were going to influence him negatively. He needed his own pr team to guide him through this process and if he wants any relationship with the couple he'll certainly need guidance. I'm not sure where you get the idea that her home life was challenging. True that her parents divorced when she was around 6 years old but there's no indication that she not "privileged" if that is what you want to call being educated at a private school. I don't know where the story comes from that she didn't have a relationship with her father when she was younger either. There are many reports out there that says she was very often on set with him when they were filming various programmes where he worked as a lighting director. He's only lived quietly in Mexico since he's retired which wasn't that long ago. My guess at this whole story is that her step sister ( who's admitted it ) decided to have some better photographs of him than what had been posted in the media previously and the whole thing got out of hand. The photographer then sold these photographs on to the highest bidder around the world and the poor bloke now feels embarrassed about agreeing to be photographed in the first place. He's now decided not to attend the wedding rather than embarrass her further. Putting it in plain English he's now embarrassed that he was taken in and embarrassing her in the first place. The press are unscrupulous in their actions when they want a story with no thoughts about the hurt they cause people in their pursuit in getting it. I really hope that the press will leave him and the whole story alone and that he does come to the wedding, if that is what Meghan and he wants.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 9:30:11 GMT
I am amazed at the number of people who are saying he should have hired a pr firm. I would think that a great many people do not have the means to do that. No I’m saying Megan or the royal family should have. The can't control what everyone does that has access to her or her family and neither should she have to either. The step sister should have kept out of it. She has nothing to do with Meghan, she just happens to be the daughter of Meghan's father from his previous marriage. She just wanted her five minutes of fame at the expense of someones happiness.
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Post by gar on May 15, 2018 9:47:43 GMT
Latest suggestion is that Meghan's mother or Prince Charles will walk her down the aisle. I . think either would be lovely
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Post by gillyp on May 15, 2018 10:02:51 GMT
Latest suggestion is that Meghan's mother or Prince Charles will walk her down the aisle. I . think either would be lovely I can’t get my head around Prince Charles walking her down the aisle! I have it too ingrained in my brain that the person doing the walking is the person giving the bride away, iyswim, and it’s not Charles’s place to do that. If Mr Markle feels he can’t come over, which would be a terrible shame for him and Meghan if that’s what they both wanted, I do think her mother would be ideal if she felt she could. Or even a couple of page boys! I have a lovely vision of there being less pomp about this ceremony and her holding hands with two little page boys all the way to her prince. No matter what, what we see of the day will be wonderful and I hope they have a great life together. Man, I’m looking forward to the first baby already!
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Post by gar on May 15, 2018 10:19:07 GMT
Latest suggestion is that Meghan's mother or Prince Charles will walk her down the aisle. I . think either would be lovely I can’t get my head around Prince Charles walking her down the aisle! I have it too ingrained in my brain that the person doing the walking is the person giving the bride away, iyswim, and it’s not Charles’s place to do that. If Mr Markle feels he can’t come over, which would be a terrible shame for him and Meghan if that’s what they both wanted, I do think her mother would be ideal if she felt she could. Or even a couple of page boys! I have a lovely vision of there being less pomp about this ceremony and her holding hands with two little page boys all the way to her prince. No matter what, what we see of the day will be wonderful and I hope they have a great life together. Man, I’m looking forward to the first baby already! I agree, it would seem odd but apparently ( ) they have a great relationship so you never know! I do think her mother is the obvious choice though.
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Post by gar on May 15, 2018 10:57:40 GMT
Other members of Meghan's family have now arrived apparently! I do hope there's no drama for them... Telegraph
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 11:06:39 GMT
I hope her mother does. Seems fitting somehow if she has no other close relative such as an Uncle to do so. I'm with you gillyp in thinking it would be very strange to see Prince Charles do it. Bless her, I feel really sorry for her to have to go through all this. It's stressful enough getting married without the whole world watching you which is an added stress to her. I'm hoping against hope that her father will change his mind and be there for her.
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iluvpink
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Post by iluvpink on May 15, 2018 11:51:58 GMT
I don't know what to think of her Dad. I think he wasn't comfortable with the whole thing, gave in to a few pictures to get them off his back and then it blew up in his face and he used that (as an excuse?) to get out of going to London. I think he's just very uncomfortable/shy with being in the public eye and now he doesn't have to. As a person who hates attention, I get that. BUT he should have done it for his daughter and he damned sure shouldn't have told TMZ he wasn't coming, before he told her.
I am absolutely disgusted by her half siblings. Total attention/money seeking trash.
I think if someone is going to walk down the aisle with her, it should be her mom. She seems like a fabulous person and the one who really raised her daughter into the woman she is today.
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Post by used2scrap on May 15, 2018 12:03:25 GMT
No I’m saying Megan or the royal family should have. The can't control what everyone does that has access to her or her family and neither should she have to either. The step sister should have kept out of it. She has nothing to do with Meghan, she just happens to be the daughter of Meghan's father from his previous marriage. She just wanted her five minutes of fame at the expense of someones happiness. Sure the half siblings that keep making trouble and the crazy Aunt and nephews that have shown up uninvited are on their own. But someone should be guiding the bride’s parents at least up to and through the ceremony, since they are supposed to be part of it and dealing with the press and public in a manner they can’t possibly be expected to deal with on their own. Who knows though, maybe guidance was offered and declined. It does seem perhaps her dad is just too overwhelmed with it all and was looking for an out.
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Post by gar on May 15, 2018 12:12:11 GMT
I don't know what to think of her Dad. I think he wasn't comfortable with the whole thing, gave in to a few pictures to get them off his back and then it blew up in his face and he used that (as an excuse?) to get out of going to London. I think he's just very uncomfortable/shy with being in the public eye and now he doesn't have to. As a person who hates attention, I get that. BUT he should have done it for his daughter and he damned sure shouldn't have told TMZ he wasn't coming, before he told her. I am absolutely disgusted by her half siblings. Total attention/money seeking trash. I think if someone is going to walk down the aisle with her, it should be her mom. She seems like a fabulous person and the one who really raised her daughter into the woman she is today. It was the half sister who did the photos but she wouldn’t categorically deny that he was paid for them. What an awful mess. I wonder how much she anticipated happening!
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Post by Chips on May 15, 2018 15:11:00 GMT
I feel like Maghan has worked very hard to make it in Hollywood. From what I have read her home life sounds challenging and that she was not "privileged" with money and connections. I was surprised that she she went to Northwestern University since that is an elite school but she must of worked hard to get in. Imho Maghan has done the work to get where she is and took her own path and it sound like her father went on his own path too. While I am not getting the impression one or the other about her relationship with her Dad it seems like they just lived different paths. He isolated himself in Mexico and she a famous actress. I understand completely understand why she wanted her Dad to walk her down the aisle. The Dad though was so far removed from her life that he was not ready for all the parasites who were going to influence him negatively. He needed his own pr team to guide him through this process and if he wants any relationship with the couple he'll certainly need guidance. Hey now, private schools aren’t only for the “elite” in financial or social status. I went there for grad school and had to take out 100% student loans minus my scholarships, but nevertheless, I am definitely not from a rich family with connections. I wouldn’t put that on her list. You can come from a supportive family (or not at all) and still have to work hard to get wherever you want to be. I am not sure what your reply means - but I am certainly proud of you for getting into Northwestern for grad school. I 100% agree with what your saying about the rest but she does deserve credit for getting into Northwestern University - of about 35,000 first year applications only about 10% get in to the school. So anyone who makes it deserves recognition. I just wanted to put it out there that I think she is admirable. From what I have read her youth was not easy and she has humble beginnings. Works hard. I am sorry that her Dad won't walk her down the aisle. I wish her and Harry the best and hope her family can all enjoy this time. Lord only knows what nut jobs would come out of the cracks if by some miracle I was famous and married a prince! lol!!!
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tduby1
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Post by tduby1 on May 15, 2018 15:19:49 GMT
Is the trouble making sister half or step- I keep reading step here but I thought she was half? Just trying to place everyone.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on May 15, 2018 15:27:58 GMT
I just saw on CNN app, I believe, that the sister is now saying the dad had a heart attack?
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Post by gar on May 15, 2018 15:40:17 GMT
I just saw on CNN app, I believe, that the sister is now saying the dad had a heart attack? Last time I saw that hadn’t been confirmed. It may have been palpitations or something due to stress.
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Post by muggins on May 15, 2018 15:48:14 GMT
IMHO as a Brit, Meghan’s family drama pales in comparison to the lying and cheating Charles did to Diana when Camilla was his mistress. The Royal family have got where they are today through hundreds of years of fighting, blackmail, lies, murders, cheating, etc. I really don’t think anyone should be worried about a poorly thought out photo shoot - least of all Meghan.
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Post by iluvpink on May 15, 2018 16:13:09 GMT
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Post by Country Ham on May 15, 2018 16:25:33 GMT
I saw an article on Facebook that said "Meet Megan Markle's momma." Who the fuck writes that about a future princess. That is so racist I almost puked. This was a US site like Access Hollywood. That would be Megan Markle's mother ______ ________. I almost spat on the screen I was so livid. What am I missing? You have to fill in the blanks for me or provide a link. Who writes what about a future princess? What was the so racist thing? I honesty can't read between the lines here with the blanks.
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Post by peabay on May 15, 2018 16:27:36 GMT
I don't think I could care any less about this entire wedding. You and me both. That said, when they had this story on CBS This Morning today, I felt badly for her. I know she shouldn't be embarrassed, but to have this hanging over the wedding kind of sucks. She's joining a family made up of protocol and to have her own family look like losers is uncomfortable, to say the least.
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Post by Delta Dawn on May 15, 2018 16:41:50 GMT
I saw an article on Facebook that said "Meet Megan Markle's momma." Who the fuck writes that about a future princess. That is so racist I almost puked. This was a US site like Access Hollywood. That would be Megan Markle's mother ______ ________. I almost spat on the screen I was so livid. What am I missing? You have to fill in the blanks for me or provide a link. Who writes what about a future princess? What was the so racist thing? I honesty can't read between the lines here with the blanks. I don’t know what her ‘momma’s’ name was at the time but I was disgusted that they referred to the mother of a future princess as a momma and not her mother. My dad was disgusted too. It was Access Hollywood on Facebook. I called them out on it but who am I? Why would they change it?
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Post by used2scrap on May 15, 2018 16:42:47 GMT
I saw an article on Facebook that said "Meet Megan Markle's momma." Who the fuck writes that about a future princess. That is so racist I almost puked. This was a US site like Access Hollywood. That would be Megan Markle's mother ______ ________. I almost spat on the screen I was so livid. What am I missing? You have to fill in the blanks for me or provide a link. Who writes what about a future princess? What was the so racist thing? I honesty can't read between the lines here with the blanks. I think she’s taking issue with the usage of the word “momma” instead of mother? And used blanks because she doesn’t know her actual name? Whoops posted at the same time she clarified lol
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Post by Delta Dawn on May 15, 2018 16:44:11 GMT
What am I missing? You have to fill in the blanks for me or provide a link. Who writes what about a future princess? What was the so racist thing? I honesty can't read between the lines here with the blanks. I think she’s taking issue with the usage of the word “momma” instead of mother? And used blanks because she doesn’t know her actual name? Whoops posted at the same time she clarified lol Exactly. The Duchess of Cambridge has a mother as does Megan. Not a momma any longer.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 16:44:26 GMT
Is the trouble making sister half or step- I keep reading step here but I thought she was half? Just trying to place everyone. Sorry tduby1 that was an error on my part. I called her a step sister but she is in fact a half sister. Same Dad but different mothers.
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Post by Darcy Collins on May 15, 2018 16:55:12 GMT
I don't think I could care any less about this entire wedding. You and me both. That said, when they had this story on CBS This Morning today, I felt badly for her. I know she shouldn't be embarrassed, but to have this hanging over the wedding kind of sucks. She's joining a family made up of protocol and to have her own family look like losers is uncomfortable, to say the least. And all the drama - I just feel sorry for her that so much attention is being focused on the negative on what should be a day about her and her future husband. As someone who has more than my share of toxic family members - I can't even imagine dealing with all that while the world watches/gossips.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 15, 2018 16:56:21 GMT
are you saying 'momma' is somehow racist becasue Meghan Markle is bi-racial? is her mother black? 'Momma' is just a shorthand, casual way of saying mother... maybe it's more of an 'Americanism' than anything else- but I don't see it as that disrespectful, rude, or racist. After all, she's not a princess yet.
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Country Ham
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Post by Country Ham on May 15, 2018 17:01:00 GMT
What am I missing? You have to fill in the blanks for me or provide a link. Who writes what about a future princess? What was the so racist thing? I honesty can't read between the lines here with the blanks. I don’t know what her ‘momma’s’ name was at the time but I was disgusted that they referred to the mother of a future princess as a momma and not her mother. My dad was disgusted too. It was Access Hollywood on Facebook. I called them out on it but who am I? Why would they change it? Like i said earlier I didn't even recognize her name till I read the thread. I live in a small southern US town and everyone here has mommas and daddies here. I never heard anyone passed the age of 10 refer to their dads as Daddies till I moved here. What's the racist part? If she is from the south it might definitely have a stereotype attached to it. It has kind of grown on me moving here from the north and I now find it endearing. Access HOllywood is kind of an entertainment show so I guess I wouldn't be bothered by the use of a word like 'momma'. The headline of the new york times i might raise my eyebrows
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Post by Delta Dawn on May 15, 2018 17:08:18 GMT
I don’t know what her ‘momma’s’ name was at the time but I was disgusted that they referred to the mother of a future princess as a momma and not her mother. My dad was disgusted too. It was Access Hollywood on Facebook. I called them out on it but who am I? Why would they change it? Like i said earlier I didn't even recognize her name till I read the thread. I live in a small southern US town and everyone here has mommas and daddies here. I never heard anyone passed the age of 10 refer to their dads as Daddies till I moved here. What's the racist part? If she is from the south it might definitely have a stereotype attached to it. It has kind of grown on me moving here from the north and I now find it endearing. Access HOllywood is kind of an entertainment show so I guess I wouldn't be bothered by the use of a word like 'momma'. The headline of the new york times i might raise my eyebrows It's a regional thing I think. As a Canadian we would never refer to a member of the Royal Family as to having a momma nor a daddy. She is royalty now and has a mother and father. I just found it offensive.
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