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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 27, 2019 18:20:54 GMT
Not to pick on you, but I keep wondering if people are reading the thread before responding. This is not about simple political differences of opinion. And people are being harmed by this administration. And I can guarantee you that the difference in views between many of us and Trump supporters is definitely extreme. I understand what you are saying, but I think I left out a few words. Yes, there are some extreme differing views, but I don't feel that a person's political beliefs or religious beliefs should be a factor to a relationship unless that belief contains extreme conditions, such are murdering people ie, Hitler, What about racism? Sexism? Discriminating against other groups? Encouraging that And making policies that reflect that. Those are all things that have been going on, and why people say that this is not "just political differences" now.
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Post by rodeomom on Sept 27, 2019 18:42:47 GMT
I understand what you are saying, but I think I left out a few words. Yes, there are some extreme differing views, but I don't feel that a person's political beliefs or religious beliefs should be a factor to a relationship unless that belief contains extreme conditions, such are murdering people ie, Hitler, What about racism? Sexism? Discriminating against other groups? Encouraging that And making policies that reflect that. Those are all things that have been going on, and why people say that this is not "just political differences" now. How about babies dying in their care? There have been at least 7 children die while in these concentration camps. How many have to die before it's extreme?
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Post by muggins on Sept 27, 2019 18:43:38 GMT
I imagine there’s quite a lot of discussion amongst the expats in Spain regarding their status after Brexit. Most of this has already been dealt with to cover the transitional period, which there will be whether there's a deal or not. Spain has agreed to adopt the same as the UK has put in place towards EU citizens. The EU has left it to each individual member country to sort their own out. linkMy comment was regarding political discussion among Brits living abroad. Something the poster doesn't do with friends often. And since nothing is set in stone yet, I imagine many expats are still discussing Brexshit and the current useless administration.
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Post by elaine on Sept 27, 2019 19:02:02 GMT
Not to pick on you, but I keep wondering if people are reading the thread before responding. This is not about simple political differences of opinion. And people are being harmed by this administration. And I can guarantee you that the difference in views between many of us and Trump supporters is definitely extreme. I understand what you are saying, but I think I left out a few words. Yes, there are some extreme differing views, but I don't feel that a person's political beliefs or religious beliefs should be a factor to a relationship unless that belief contains extreme conditions, such are murdering people ie, Hitler, Neo-Nazis (you know, the movement based on Hitler and his ideology) marched in Charlottesville in 2017. Carrying torches and chanting anti-Semitic and racist White Supremacist chants. One of them murdered someone with his car. A group of them beat the shit out of a Black man in a parking garage. Trump’s response: “There were fine people on both sides.” No condemnation of the Neo-Nazis involved. That appears to fit your description of beliefs that contain extreme conditions. To support Trump is to support White Nationalism/Neo-naziism and the murder rampage during his administration they started at Charlottesville and continued on in Pittsburgh at the Synagogue to the murders in an El Paso Walmart and on and on. 49 people were murdered in 2018 alone by far-right extremists/white nationalists. time.com/5647304/white-nationalist-terrorism-united-states/If you don’t see the very conditions that you described as transpiring right now this very moment in our country, you are making a very concerted effort to be unaware of what goes on in the world...
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 27, 2019 19:10:57 GMT
I don’t get it. So if people don’t agree on one area they can’t be friends wow. What about religion. Parenting. I mean if you disagree in one area and can’t be friends how do you have any friends. Tolerance is so not acceptable by people anymore. What about respecting the other person enough to agree to disagree. The question was regarding politics, not parenting or religion. However to indulge, take religion. I never would force my region on anyone, nor say that mine is the only one or better. It’s their personal decision. I wouldn’t say that I “tolerate” others religious choices, but rather respect their choices. The big exception to that is when anyone inserts their religion into politics as the be all/do all/end all. Do not pressure your religious beliefs on me to control what I do with my life, my health, my family. No tolerance for that bullshit. Period. Trump eg al., is attempting to make Christianity the ONLY “acceptable” religion in the US and I think that’s absolutely wrong. Religious zealots have spent a lot of money on politicians (also wrong) to make this so, each year more aggressively.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 27, 2019 19:16:38 GMT
I am a trump supporter so I guess I wouldn’t be anyone’s friend. Lol. I actually hate all politicians at this point. They all lie and have zero integrity. Funny how everything was Obama’s fault and now it is Trump. I meN the sky is cloudy today. Obama’s fault. It rained today. Trumps fault. Lol I don’t believe that ALL politicians lie to the public and I see many politicians who have integrity. I believe that President Obama has volumes of integrity. I felt the Same with John McCain. I think trump has absolutely zero integrity or honesty. And we are all smart enough to know that the sky being cloudy or rainy has nothing to do with a political motivation—I say tongue in cheek because most of us have the tools and ability to seek out the truth and factual information to prove or confirm what us real and what is not, yet there are some who will plant themselves in front of their TV and repeat as gospel whatever certain channels or personalities spew, regardless of facts, truth, or integrity.
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Post by sunshine on Sept 27, 2019 19:23:26 GMT
It seems by a lot of responses that "associating" with Republicans and conservatives is okay and doable if its differences with taxes, etc. Does that change if those same people then vote for the Republican, Trump? It seems to me anyone that votes for the republican is automatically supporting Trump, and those that "support" Trump are off limits.
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Post by rodeomom on Sept 27, 2019 19:36:18 GMT
It seems by a lot of responses that "associating" with Republicans and conservatives is okay and doable if its differences with taxes, etc. Does that change if those same people then vote for the Republican, Trump? It seems to me anyone that votes for the republican is automatically supporting Trump, and those that "support" Trump are off limits. If your talking about a "good" in real life friendship. I can be friends with a republican but not a Trump supporter. If you vote for Trump that would make you a supporter. ETA: It's not that Republicans are "off limits" it's that I would not be able to form a bonding friendship with someone who believes that Trump is doing the right things. There is a whole list of things he has done and people that support him believe that I could never look past in building a friendship.
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Post by elaine on Sept 27, 2019 19:37:38 GMT
It seems by a lot of responses that "associating" with Republicans and conservatives is okay and doable if its differences with taxes, etc. Does that change if those same people then vote for the Republican, Trump? It seems to me anyone that votes for the republican is automatically supporting Trump, and those that "support" Trump are off limits. Yes. If they choose to vote for Trump after this, and don’t denounce what he is doing to our country, then yes. I don’t care what political party he belongs to. Not all Republicans voted for Trump. As a group, most of them possess the intellectual skills to judge candidates on their merits and vote accordingly. And many Republicans who voted for Trump have since denounced him. A number of people on this thread have talked about that. If you read the posts, that is. People who support Trump support the evil he has unleashed on anyone who isn’t white, Christian and male. Your post seems like a feeble attempt to abdicate any personal responsibility for your/Trump supporters’ voting choices. If you vote simply for the political party and not for the actual candidate, you are part of the problem, not the solution. Most people are smarter than that.
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Post by sunshine on Sept 27, 2019 19:44:41 GMT
It seems by a lot of responses that "associating" with Republicans and conservatives is okay and doable if its differences with taxes, etc. Does that change if those same people then vote for the Republican, Trump? It seems to me anyone that votes for the republican is automatically supporting Trump, and those that "support" Trump are off limits. Yes. If they choose to vote for Trump after this, and don’t denounce what he is doing to our country, then yes. I don’t care what political party he belongs to. Not all Republicans voted for Trump. As a group, most of them possess the intellectual skills to judge candidates on their merits and vote accordingly. And many Republicans who voted for Trump have since denounced him. A number of people on this thread have talked about that. If you read the posts, that is. People who support Trump support the evil he has unleashed on anyone who isn’t white, Christian and male. Your post seems like a feeble attempt to abdicate any personal responsibility for your/Trump supporters’ voting choices. If you vote simply for the political party and not for the actual candidate, you are part of the problem, not the solution. Most people are smarter than that. I'm not attempting to do anything. If someone is a republican or conservative, chances are they might not vote for the democrat, especially if the nominee is a progressive. If people don't vote at all because they don't feel good about either candidate, it's been said they will contribute to Trump possibly winning again.
I'm wondering how those that can associate with a republican or conservative now if they just have simple political differences will continue to do so if they vote for the candidate they align with politically which just might be Trump.
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 27, 2019 19:47:15 GMT
I don’t get it. So if people don’t agree on one area they can’t be friends wow. What about religion. Parenting. I mean if you disagree in one area and can’t be friends how do you have any friends. Tolerance is so not acceptable by people anymore. What about respecting the other person enough to agree to disagree. For me it is about the line. One of my very dear friends is highly religious but rarely mentions it. If she were proselytizing in every conversation I would cut ties as I despise organized religion. I have actually cut ties with two people over their methods of parenting. One was because she thought that it was cute that her hellions came into my house and destroyed my property quite a few times. The other was a person who told her six year old that it was his responsibility to make her life happy. That same child was born with a heart condition that needed surgery. Instead she took him to a psychic surgeon. Her radical and in my opinion stupid metaphysical beliefs put his life in danger. I was done. Couldn’t stick around and watch that crap go down. I have friends who go to church and I have friends whose children drive me nuts. So for me it is when a person crosses over a line that I have drawn in the sand. trumpers crossed that line for me when they voted for that slime ball. That is unforgivable in my book.
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 27, 2019 19:53:34 GMT
I keep imagining living 160 years ago, and calling pro slavery “just a difference of opinion, nothing to lose a friendship over”. Or 1930’s Germany as you watch your Jewish neighbors persecuted and carted off. Politics are the power behind some terrible actions. They are worth taking a stand over. Eta: and anybody who thinks such things couldn’t happen here and now are not paying attention. This! Exactly!
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Post by elaine on Sept 27, 2019 20:04:30 GMT
Yes. If they choose to vote for Trump after this, and don’t denounce what he is doing to our country, then yes. I don’t care what political party he belongs to. Not all Republicans voted for Trump. As a group, most of them possess the intellectual skills to judge candidates on their merits and vote accordingly. And many Republicans who voted for Trump have since denounced him. A number of people on this thread have talked about that. If you read the posts, that is. People who support Trump support the evil he has unleashed on anyone who isn’t white, Christian and male. Your post seems like a feeble attempt to abdicate any personal responsibility for your/Trump supporters’ voting choices. If you vote simply for the political party and not for the actual candidate, you are part of the problem, not the solution. Most people are smarter than that. I'm not attempting to do anything. If someone is a republican or conservative, chances are they might not vote for the democrat, especially if the nominee is a progressive. If people don't vote at all because they don't feel good about either candidate, it's been said they will contribute to Trump possibly winning again.
I'm wondering how those that can associate with a republican or conservative now if they just have simple political differences will continue to do so if they vote for the candidate they align with politically which just might be Trump.
There is a huge difference between not voting democrat/progressive resulting in a Trump win and being a Trump supporter and casting a vote for him. Are you reading the responses people are taking the time to write here? People have been *very* clear about differentiating between people who are Republican and hold conservative views and being Trump supporters. If you voted for Trump because your views align with his - and his views include White Nationalism, sexism, racism - then own up to it and yes, those people are the ones people have issues with. Trump administration’s hate of all things not white, male, straight and Christian is not the Republican platform. If you voted for him because your views align with his, well, there you have it. If you don’t care about the hate and violence he has unleashed on others, let alone trying to get foreign powers interfere with our elections, and choose to vote for him anyways, then yes, you are deplorable. And are as anti-the-teachings-of-Christ as imaginable. People on this thread have the ability to differentiate between Republicans and Trump supporters. You can be the former without being the latter. It is somewhat disingenuous to support your vote for someone who encourages hate and violence against anyone he disagrees with and isn’t a White Christian Straight REPUBLICAN (seriously, do you not hear the daily rantings and ravings against ALL Democrats?) and then complain when people call you out (without threatening violence) on your support of Trump? Is okay for you when Trump - the freaking President of the United States - does it publicly, but you hold women on a message board to a higher standard? Seriously?
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 27, 2019 20:10:41 GMT
elaine, you are the picture of patience and have way more than I do. 💕
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Post by mustlovecats on Sept 27, 2019 20:32:05 GMT
Obama’s family detention policy only separated children in very limited circumstances such as when a parent was arrested for a serious crime, but Trump’s zero tolerance policy is much more extensive. Some of those pictures were from a period during 2014 in which many unaccompanied minors arrived and were held in facilities. Trump’s pushing that back on Obama and there’s a lot more to this story.
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Post by tincin on Sept 27, 2019 23:49:26 GMT
What about racism? Sexism? Discriminating against other groups? Encouraging that And making policies that reflect that. Those are all things that have been going on, and why people say that this is not "just political differences" now. How about babies dying in their care? There have been at least 7 children die while in these concentration camps. How many have to die before it's extreme? What about refusing to administer basic immunizations, refusing soap and toothbrushes, refusing basic menstruation supplies? All of twitler’s crap? Moscow Mitch and his destruction of our government? If a person is okay with these things,, we cannot be friends.
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Post by snyder on Sept 28, 2019 0:01:57 GMT
It is obvious this thread into a true political thread, but geez, I don't judge my friends so harshly. just because your friend is one party or the other does not mean they believe 100% of what that party supports or represents. I don't like what either party does on many occasions, but if you are this or that, I'm not dumping you as my friend.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 28, 2019 0:09:47 GMT
It is obvious this thread into a true political thread, but geez, I don't judge my friends so harshly. just because your friend is one party or the other does not mean they believe 100% of what that party supports or represents. I don't like what either party does on many occasions, but if you are this or that, I'm not dumping you as my friend. Whether they believe 100% of what he does is immaterial. Someone voting for Trump puts their support, their true political power, behind his atrocities at the border, not just the parts they believe in or agree with.
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Post by elaine on Sept 28, 2019 0:39:15 GMT
It is obvious this thread into a true political thread, but geez, I don't judge my friends so harshly. just because your friend is one party or the other does not mean they believe 100% of what that party supports or represents. I don't like what either party does on many occasions, but if you are this or that, I'm not dumping you as my friend. Yeah, I’m Jewish and if you are a White Supremacist or support them, you threaten me and my children and are absolutely no friend of mine. I’m going to guess you don’t fit into any of the groups targeted by the hates crimes that have skyrocketed since Trump came into office. Do you mean to tell me if a group of people marched down the Main Street of your town carrying torches and chanted calling for the murder of “Snyder’s children” you wouldn’t judge them? You’d invite them into your home so they wouldn’t have to go through the trouble of hunting your children down in their place of worship or when they are back-to-school shopping in Walmart? Because, you know, you wouldn’t want your narrow-minded “political views” to get in the way of your friendship with them. Bullshit. Real people are being harmed by Trump’s administration and not caring because it isn’t you or yours is deplorable.
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Post by likescarrots on Sept 28, 2019 0:42:55 GMT
I'm sure some can but not any of mine. I have no interest in being friends with anyone who considers themselves conservative.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 28, 2019 0:56:19 GMT
It seems by a lot of responses that "associating" with Republicans and conservatives is okay and doable if its differences with taxes, etc. Does that change if those same people then vote for the Republican, Trump? It seems to me anyone that votes for the republican is automatically supporting Trump, and those that "support" Trump are off limits. In my house... I cannot/will not “tolerate” anyone who supports or votes for eradicating LBGTQ rights and is trying to render them extinct. I cannot/will not “tolerate” anyone who supports or votes to make determinations on what can or cannot be done to my body—my body, MY choice. My healthcare should always be between me and my medical staff. I cannot/will not “tolerate” anyone who supports or votes to do nothing about gun control measures. There are fucking shootings everywhere, in my city they’re happening almost exactly every day. We do not need any military style weapons on the streets. Our police are advocating for changes, and I wholeheartedly agree. I cannot/will not “tolerate” anyone who uses their “religious freedom” as a means to make Christianity the only religion and are using it as a weapon to cast shame on abortion, rape victims, immigrants, POC, etc. or use religion as their cover to be racist, misogynistic, hateful. I cannot/will not “tolerate” anyone (men mostly) who treat women as second class, not to be heard, or as objects to do what they wish. I cannot and will not tolerate politicians who are paid by lobbyists, NRA, religious groups, insurance company’s, pharmaceutical companies, oil/gas/electric to put their wants and special interest before the needs of our communities as a whole. As for taxes and stuff like that, I tend to be a tad more middle/conservative. It’s a new day and given the damage done by trump administration in the last 2-3/4 years, I really don’t need to keep or be friends that don’t share the same core values as I do. And it’s their prerogative to feel the same about me if they choose. My church is largely republican as is the neighborhood in which I reside. I can certainly coexist with people of a different party, but I don’t need people in my life that lack humanity. I think this election will be a big test to see how largely/widely he is supported. Will republicans vote for him just because he’s on the ballot? I think that other republicans running might pull away from him, which is great!! I think that the reason he and the RNC have been closing down on primaries or supporting any other republican candidates is because they know it will divide their votes and take them away from him. This tells me that there is corruption and election interference going on—the more candidates running against him, harder to swing the votes his way without raising suspicions of vote tampering (Whois a huge concern right now).
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 28, 2019 1:11:03 GMT
It is obvious this thread into a true political thread, but geez, I don't judge my friends so harshly. just because your friend is one party or the other does not mean they believe 100% of what that party supports or represents. I don't like what either party does on many occasions, but if you are this or that, I'm not dumping you as my friend. I get what you are saying and I don’t think it’s that anyone is really judging (as a whole) others, it boils down to core beliefs and values. For example, I had a conservative friend who was against anything LBGTQ. Actively supported the religious attacks, Republicans who were/are attempting to paint anyone who is LBGTQ as less than human shit, mocks and makes disparaging comments about LBGTQ. Echos politicians who feel the same. One of my siblings is gay. Another nephew is trans. One of my bff’s is gay. I work in a very diverse LBGTQ environment. Nope—she’s no longer a friend because of her hatred for people I love—my family and her mission to eradicate them and destroy them. Yep, judging her all the way to hell for being so hateful towards other human beings, just because they don’t conform to her beliefs. She’s free to be her awful, hateful self, spewing misinformation, lies and hatred as much as she chooses, she can rock that vibe all she wants, but she’ll never ever set foot anywhere near me again because of it.
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Post by PLurker on Sept 28, 2019 1:23:46 GMT
I find it smug to say that agreeing to diagree is about "maturity". It sounds more like just ignoring what doesnt affect them. Politics is about people and power. "Politics" is being used as a euphemism for racism, sexism, authoritarianism and that's not okay with me. I dont have friends who can support an administration that cages children and argues they don't deserve soap or toothpaste (among many other things). If that's maturity then fuck it. exactly. and as another said to be able to go days or even a week without talking politics it tells me you aren't affected by the above mentioned bolded and more, are probably privileged in some way, not a member of or care about anyone oppressed and marginalized, or are not empathetic in the ways that it infuriates me how other people are mistreated and/or ignored just for who they are or where they came from. To go days or weeks in blissful oblivion is days or weeks of fear and/or hurt of many not lucky enough to be you or in your same lucky (because that's all it is- luck) birth or current situation. I won't shut up. Sorry. ETA I should have read rest of threads, saved my breath and just agreed with many above that stated in better than me. I could have just repeatedly used the
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Post by snyder on Sept 28, 2019 2:02:51 GMT
It is obvious this thread into a true political thread, but geez, I don't judge my friends so harshly. just because your friend is one party or the other does not mean they believe 100% of what that party supports or represents. I don't like what either party does on many occasions, but if you are this or that, I'm not dumping you as my friend. Yeah, I’m Jewish and if you are a White Supremacist or support them, you threaten me and my children and are absolutely no friend of mine. I’m going to guess you don’t fit into any of the groups targeted by the hates crimes that have skyrocketed since Trump came into office. Do you mean to tell me if a group of people marched down the Main Street of your town carrying torches and chanted calling for the murder of “Snyder’s children” you wouldn’t judge them? You’d invite them into your home so they wouldn’t have to go through the trouble of hunting your children down in their place of worship or when they are back-to-school shopping in Walmart? Because, you know, you wouldn’t want your narrow-minded “political views” to get in the way of your friendship with them. Bullshit. Real people are being harmed by Trump’s administration and not caring because it isn’t you or yours is deplorable. I said extreme and what you described is extreme.
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Post by snyder on Sept 28, 2019 2:09:03 GMT
It is obvious this thread into a true political thread, but geez, I don't judge my friends so harshly. just because your friend is one party or the other does not mean they believe 100% of what that party supports or represents. I don't like what either party does on many occasions, but if you are this or that, I'm not dumping you as my friend. Whether they believe 100% of what he does is immaterial. Someone voting for Trump puts their support, their true political power, behind his atrocities at the border, not just the parts they believe in or agree with. To me that is being very narrow minded. No one leader is going to be 100% spot on.
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Post by PLurker on Sept 28, 2019 3:04:20 GMT
Whether they believe 100% of what he does is immaterial. Someone voting for Trump puts their support, their true political power, behind his atrocities at the border, not just the parts they believe in or agree with. To me that is being very narrow minded. No one leader is going to be 100% spot on. It's not just regular 'policy politics' anymore. It's not just Dems vs Reps trump changed that like it or not. Just because you directly don't feel the pain doesn't make it any less real. People have been crying out in fear and pain since election night. Everyone is someone's child. They should all be treated equally. Have the same rights. Where do you draw the line to hold onto your other benign policy political beliefs? Supporting a politician with a few opposing views to yours that harm no one? Supporting a politician with a few opposing views to yours that harm only other people's children? Supporting a politician with a few opposing views to yours that harm children including your own? Supporting a politician with a few opposing views to yours that harm most children including yourself? How far does the harm to people have to reach to outweigh those other favorable to you policies? Because people are being verbally and physically threatened, harmed and killed. Not mine yet, thankfully, but I've already drawn my line. I choose to draw the line way before it crosses my home threshold. Sometimes a small percentage of "policies" outweighs the larger percent. Especially when it comes to mistreatment of people. If you are okay with politics that allows and nourishes that, no thanks. Don't need you as a friend. all "you" above general, royal you. Also, I don't consider trump a leader in any true since of the word.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 28, 2019 3:15:58 GMT
Yes. If they choose to vote for Trump after this, and don’t denounce what he is doing to our country, then yes. I don’t care what political party he belongs to. Not all Republicans voted for Trump. As a group, most of them possess the intellectual skills to judge candidates on their merits and vote accordingly. And many Republicans who voted for Trump have since denounced him. A number of people on this thread have talked about that. If you read the posts, that is. People who support Trump support the evil he has unleashed on anyone who isn’t white, Christian and male. Your post seems like a feeble attempt to abdicate any personal responsibility for your/Trump supporters’ voting choices. If you vote simply for the political party and not for the actual candidate, you are part of the problem, not the solution. Most people are smarter than that. I'm not attempting to do anything. If someone is a republican or conservative, chances are they might not vote for the democrat, especially if the nominee is a progressive. If people don't vote at all because they don't feel good about either candidate, it's been said they will contribute to Trump possibly winning again.
I'm wondering how those that can associate with a republican or conservative now if they just have simple political differences will continue to do so if they vote for the candidate they align with politically which just might be Trump.
IMO, if they vote for trump because they value something like taxes over how people are treated and the many other issues that come with having him in office, that still means that we don’t have the same values, and probably not someone I want to have a close relationship with.
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Post by LiLi on Sept 28, 2019 3:31:08 GMT
To me that is being very narrow minded. No one leader is going to be 100% spot on. Minimalism at its finest. There is a point where ignoring things that someone (Trump) stands for, changes from a difference in political beliefs to a difference in morality. That has happened. If you support Trump, your morality is different than mine. THAT is why I can't be your friend. It has nothing to do with conservatives beliefs. With that, I have no issue. (Royal you, of course)
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Post by snyder on Sept 28, 2019 3:37:11 GMT
To me that is being very narrow minded. No one leader is going to be 100% spot on. Minimalism at its finest. There is a point where ignoring things that someone (Trump) stands for, changes from a difference in political beliefs to a difference in morality. That has happened. If you support Trump, your morality is different than mine. THAT is why I can't be your friend. It has nothing to do with conservatives beliefs. With that, I have no issue. I find it amusing that most everyone that has commented on my comments assumes I'm a Trump supporter. Shameful for thinking that because I do not support him in the least.
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Post by LiLi on Sept 28, 2019 3:39:24 GMT
I find it amusing that most everyone that has commented on my comments assumes I'm a Trump supporter. Shameful for thinking that because I do not support him in the least. I didn't assume that, at all. /shrug I actually recognized your named and assumed you weren't a trump supporter from older threads.
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