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Post by pjaye on Jan 7, 2021 2:25:39 GMT
I'd don't support Trump, but I don't support Biden even more. I don't think he's fit and I don't want Harris This is what so many people struggle to comprehend, after 4 years of seeing that vile narcassist destroy your country both internally and on the world stage, you can look at two nice, decent people like Biden and Harris and think Trump is more fit and a better option as a leader. That defies all logic, Biden LESS fit than Trump?? how? in what ways? And it's completely mind boggling to the rest of us how you can never give concrete reasons for voting for that man, everything is always "BUT Hilary did, BUT Biden isn't, BUT Harris..." I doubt that anyone in a democratic country as ever voted for a side where they agree with every single policy that party has, but at the very least everyone should want a fundamentally decent person in the top job. Trump is about as far as you can get from a good, kind, decent person as you can get. |
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Post by luckyjune on Jan 7, 2021 2:28:21 GMT
BULLSHIT! It should have ended HERE!  100%. I remember thinking, "He's done." I think that was my first, "Wait, what?" moment, when nobody held him accountable for mocking a disabled person. Oh so many more to come. |
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Post by AllieC on Jan 7, 2021 2:35:18 GMT
I'm not American so ignore me if you wish...but being Conservative/voting Republican in any previous election has not been met with this reaction - consider why that is. I don't think people generally have a problem with people voting Conservative, but voting for Trump...voting that way this time...has had predictable and terrible results. The writing was on the wall - 10 feet high. THAT is the issue I believe. Absolutely agree. Watching this shitshow from the beginning from overseas and it was blatantly clear what was ahead. Then we looked on in absolute disbelief when 70m Americans voted for him again. And then our spineless PM became his friend and I’m hoping we never forget that either. |
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Post by Legacy Girl on Jan 7, 2021 2:40:04 GMT
We may not have known how completely mentally ill he was in 2016, but we did know that he was running for president of the greatest nation in the world without having served a single day in his life as an elected official in any office. As such, he was never fit (read: completely unqualified) to serve.
By 2020, there could be no doubt of how mentally unhinged he was and/or had become. He was never fit to be reelected and America as a nation rejected him.
And in case it matters, I am a life-long R who did not vote for him in either election and denounces the actions of Trump, Trumpsters and the Republican leadership who have enabled him.
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Post by scrapngranny on Jan 7, 2021 2:43:15 GMT
Donald Trump has nothing to do with conservatism, the Republicans, healthcare, social security, or immigration. He is about Donald Trump.
Anyone can be a proud Republican, conservative, if they had denounced Donald Trump, because he is nothing you stand for. He took over your party and drug it to an unbelievable low.
Donald Trump has tried to overthrow our government, I don’t blame the Republicans, I blame Donald Trump. If you agree with his actions to overturn the election, then I blame you too.
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Post by dewryce on Jan 7, 2021 2:48:42 GMT
Donald Trump has nothing to do with conservatism, the Republicans, healthcare, social security, or immigration. He is about Donald Trump. Anyone can be a proud Republican, conservative, if they had denounced Donald Trump, because he is nothing you stand for. He took over your party and drug it to an unbelievable low. Donald Trump has tried to overthrow our government, I don’t blame the Republicans, I blame Donald Trump. If you agree with his actions to overturn the election, then I blame you too. But Republican politicians have enabled and even assisted him. If you’re going to blame someone who just agrees with them, then shouldn’t you blame them too? |
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Post by Just T on Jan 7, 2021 2:54:30 GMT
But Republican politicians have enabled and even assisted him. If you’re going to blame someone who just agrees with them, then shouldn’t you blame them too? I know that I do. I have said here on this board many times that I have mostly voted Republican throughout my life. Until this election, I have only voted for a Democrat for president twice, and I have been voting since Reagan was president. I honestly don't see myself doing so ever again. I did not vote for Trump in 2016, but when he won, I do remember thinking, "Well, it can't be too bad, there are checks and balances." After watching everyone kiss his a$$, bow to everything he wanted, ignore all the shit. I have been so completely disgusted over the last four years, and I don't see how I can ever support a Republican ever again. |
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Post by PLurker on Jan 7, 2021 2:55:10 GMT
Donald Trump has nothing to do with conservatism, the Republicans, healthcare, social security, or immigration. He is about Donald Trump. he didn't at first. Until they (or many/most) hitched their wagon(s) to him. |
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jan 7, 2021 2:56:57 GMT
I didn't vote for Biden because I don't support abortion at will and without parental consent. I own it. You do realize Biden supports more Catholic values than Trump does do you not? I’m Catholic. I do not understand how people will support (and if you voted for Trump that is supporting him) a candidate only because at the moment he says he is against abortion. There are so many more people harmed by Trumps decisions. people need to stop having abortion be the ONLY thing they base their vote on. Bingo. There isn’t a word for how much more in tune Joe Biden is with Catholic values compared to Donald Trump, with the added small detail that Biden is a life-long, practicing Catholic. I’m constantly amazed at Catholics on this board who seem to think that Catholic reverence for life is limited solely to abortion - or worse, that Catholicism itself is simply a crusade against abortion. Forget all that Jesus stuff. (And I respect Biden’s commitment to ensuring women of all beliefs have the right to choose. And I say that as someone who would probably choose not to have an abortion.) Donald Trump started beating the anti-abortion drum when he became Republican. And he became Republican so he could win. My guess is he even had to be instructed that abortion opposition was part and parcel of his political conversion, along with a new-found “piety.” My other guess is that an exegesis of his lifestyle would uncover a very different personal relationship with abortion. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Jan 7, 2021 2:57:41 GMT
2020 wouldn’t have happened if you and others like you, and for full disclosure that includes my husband, didn’t vote for him in 2016. FWIW, who could have know it would turn out to be such a shit show? And please, with the "we told you!" No way you could have known either. 😂🤣😂 You have to be kidding. Anyone paying attention knew where this was going and we did tell you so. Still making excuses. |
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Post by prapea on Jan 7, 2021 3:01:41 GMT
FWIW, who could have know it would turn out to be such a shit show? And please, with the "we told you!" No way you could have known either. 😂🤣😂 You have to be kidding. Anyone paying attention knew where this was going and we did tell you so. Still making excuses. What she said. We all knew and we told you so. |
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Post by pinklady on Jan 7, 2021 3:21:17 GMT
And pretty much any conservative that comes crawling back to the pod is accepted with open arms as long as they have a puppy or a painting to post 👀 And when the open arms are done, they drag back their hair flip return, 11 day old thread, to affirm they “won’t engage” misspellings and all. Look at me look at me. |
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Post by pjaye on Jan 7, 2021 3:29:23 GMT
And then our spineless PM became his friend and I’m hoping we never forget that either. I won't. At least Turnbull still had some guts and he spoke out against Trump by name on Titter (ETA: tWitter!) today. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 3:32:31 GMT
2020 wouldn’t have happened if you and others like you, and for full disclosure that includes my husband, didn’t vote for him in 2016. FWIW, who could have know it would turn out to be such a shit show? And please, with the "we told you!" No way you could have known either. I knew. |
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Post by Sarah*H on Jan 7, 2021 3:35:03 GMT
After what happened today, why in the world would you come onto this board and defend why you voted for that man? Why would you think this post has any valuable contribution or relevance to our current situation? Trump lost. He lost for innumerable good reasons. And you can have whatever justification you think you do but if you are a person who can watch what transpired in this country today and then come onto this board to try to defend your vote... basically it just reinforces what we already know about Trump voters. You go on with your bad self. The rest of the country will move on and do our best to rebuild from this travesty. It's like the living breathing Dunning Kruger effect. And I mean that as every bit of the insult it seems.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 3:35:24 GMT
Who could have known? Give me a break. What do you think Trump was promising with his “drain the swamp” rhetoric and his courting of white nationals? Today was 100% predictable. You all just didn’t want to listen because it was more fun to laugh about liberal tears and decry the supposed crassness of pussy hats. We knew. It’s why we marched. Oh, my god. I marched too, for goodness sake. I'm saying that no one knew we'd be HERE. Like, HERE. So, just take a breath. I knew. I was screaming about what a dangerous narcissist he was from the beginning. I knew this would happen today. |
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Post by sideways on Jan 7, 2021 3:46:12 GMT
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Sounds like a lot of excuses. Trying to get out of taking responsibility.
“BUT, TEH BABIES!!!!!”
Stop focusing on other people’s pussies and what they do with them. You care about the “unborn”? Quit voting for people who make it harder to bring and care for a person into the world. That would be republicans. But, we know it’s not really about babies. It’s about controlling people with pussies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 3:51:30 GMT
Blah, blah, blah, blah. Sounds like a lot of excuses. Trying to get out of taking responsibility. “BUT, TEH BABIES!!!!!” Stop focusing on other people’s pussies and what they do with them. You care about the “unborn”? Quit voting for people who make it harder to bring and care for a person into the world. That would be republicans. But, we know it’s not really about babies. It’s about controlling people with pussies. Agree wholeheartedly! Start caring about the baby who is burned by a cigarette because they cry. Or the baby that that is hung on a hook in a closet and denied food until they die hanging there. Start caring about the young child who is fucked and strangled. Sound sick? Stop your blather and do something about it!!! |
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Post by valincal on Jan 7, 2021 3:56:46 GMT
I’m so confused on how being pro-birth equates to support for Trump? 🤔
I have never seen a photo of him playing or interacting with his own young son. My DH loves to golf and often plays with our kids...it’s his favourite thing to do.
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Post by prapea on Jan 7, 2021 4:00:26 GMT
And then our spineless PM became his friend and I’m hoping we never forget that either. I won't. At least Turnbull still had some guts and he spoke out against Trump by name on Titter today. Thanks for making me giggle finally. I don’t know if it was intentional or not but you using the word “Titter” for Twitter had me giggling like a juvenile🤣 |
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Post by h2ohdog on Jan 7, 2021 4:01:38 GMT
2020 wouldn’t have happened if you and others like you, and for full disclosure that includes my husband, didn’t vote for him in 2016. FWIW, who could have know it would turn out to be such a shit show? And please, with the "we told you!" No way you could have known either. OMG, before he was elected in 2016 he did many things that showed he was unfit for office. Among them, mocking a disabled man on a stage in public and talking about grabbing a woman by the p**sy. Yeah, plenty of us knew when he was running that this type of crazy would inevitably happen. eta sorry I wrote before I read the entire thread! |
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Post by pjaye on Jan 7, 2021 4:05:54 GMT
I won't. At least Turnbull still had some guts and he spoke out against Trump by name on Titter today. Thanks for making me giggle finally. I don’t know if it was intentional or not but you using the word “Titter” for Twitter had me giggling like a juvenile🤣 lol...sometimes you need a good typo to lighten the mood! |
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Post by femalebusiness on Jan 7, 2021 4:12:11 GMT
Blah, blah, blah, blah. Sounds like a lot of excuses. Trying to get out of taking responsibility. “BUT, TEH BABIES!!!!!” Stop focusing on other people’s pussies and what they do with them. You care about the “unborn”? Quit voting for people who make it harder to bring and care for a person into the world. That would be republicans. But, we know it’s not really about babies. It’s about controlling people with pussies. Absolutely this. |
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Post by LiLi on Jan 7, 2021 4:25:13 GMT
2020 wouldn’t have happened if you and others like you, and for full disclosure that includes my husband, didn’t vote for him in 2016. FWIW, who could have know it would turn out to be such a shit show? And please, with the "we told you!" No way you could have known either. But wait, "we" did know, right? Because, we knew and screamed it from the rooftops. "They" didn't listen and here we are. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 4:27:06 GMT
After watching everyone kiss his a$$, bow to everything he wanted, ignore all the shit. I have been so completely disgusted over the last four years, and I don't see how I can ever support a Republican ever again. And let's not forget that if we had a GOP house right now, they'd be joining w/the GOP Senate to throw away the hard fought votes of 81 MILLION Americans and overturn the will of the people. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 7, 2021 4:30:01 GMT
Who could have known? Give me a break. What do you think Trump was promising with his “drain the swamp” rhetoric and his courting of white nationals? Today was 100% predictable. You all just didn’t want to listen because it was more fun to laugh about liberal tears and decry the supposed crassness of pussy hats. We knew. It’s why we marched. Right? Anyone who knows Trump’s history, has paid any attention to his life before this, or who watched him campaign knew that he would be awful and irresponsible. In December he tweeted that Jan 6th was gonna be wild and told his followers to come to DC. If you have paid any attention since he lost the election, you realized that he was furious and did not believe that he lost. People around him said that he was obsessed with losing. There was that phone call to Raffelsperger. It was entirely predictable. |
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Post by hop2 on Jan 7, 2021 4:42:36 GMT
We’re not just arm chair quarterbacking. We’ve been complaining for 4 plus years. And no, the details and specifics of covid or today’s insurrection were not clear. But, Trump’s mishandling of a crisis has always been abundantly clear. After the hurricane in Puerto Rico, he threw paper towels. Just a small example, but very telling. He can’t even lose at golf, it was entirely predictable that there would not be a peaceful transition of power if he lost the election. He refused to commit to that in 2016 and again in 2020. As derwyce said, the only unpredictable piece is how the Republicans would enable and encourage him to the extent that they have. I have to disagree, the details of today’s insurrection were pretty clear ahead of time. They have been bragging all over the internet for weeks. I’m not even on a lot of social media, I haven’t been to Parler, I don’t have access to secret government data on wackos, but these thugs made it pretty clear what they were coming to DC to do. You don’t post a photo on social media standing with your guns and say your going to storm DC and take your government back from the ‘stolen’ election if your going to wear pink knitted hats and hug your neighbors and hope the powers that be will listen. For the capital to not be prepared is appalling. Their intent has been all over social media for a few weeks |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 4:47:22 GMT
I’m so confused on how being pro-birth equates to support for Trump? 🤔 I have never seen a photo of him playing or interacting with his own young son. My DH loves to golf and often plays with our kids...it’s his favourite thing to do. It's not about Trump on this issue. It's the Republican platform that vows to outlaw abortion or at least overturn Roe v Wade. It's the single issue voter. Period. Life in the womb is all that matters to them politically. |
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Post by hop2 on Jan 7, 2021 4:48:54 GMT
Some people need to sit down and shut up. Chris Christie is that you? |
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