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Post by Sassenach on Aug 28, 2022 0:28:20 GMT
I’m curious to. Can someone send me YT name? Thx
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artbabe
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Post by artbabe on Aug 28, 2022 14:44:25 GMT
The Mitchell & Webb Look and Peep Show (also starring Webb) are wonderful! Highly recommended. Have you ever watched the UK game show Would I Lie To You? Mitchell is one of the team captains. I had never heard of him before watching Upstart Crow. I looked him up and watched some of his Would I Lie To You? stuff on YouTube. He is a very funny man. I'm looking forward to seeing more of his stuff. US peas, if you don't subscribe to Britbox (and Acorn), I highly recommend it. Except for The Office I don't watch a lot of American TV. There are so many good shows on Britbox and Acorn. Also, I don't own a bottle of gin but feel like I must now go out and buy one. Sometimes I like it and sometimes it tastes like I'm drinking pinecones.
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Aug 28, 2022 16:50:24 GMT
Also, I don't own a bottle of gin but feel like I must now go out and buy one. Sometimes I like it and sometimes it tastes like I'm drinking pinecones. I had a not so pleasant experience with gin and tonics (overindulged and had the worst hangover for almost 2 days) so now when I smell gin or even pine trees I get nauseous. That being said, I do enjoy an occasional gin Moscow Mule because they don't taste over "gin-y". Here's a link to the recipe we use: Gin Gin Moscow Mule
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Post by elegantsufficiency on Aug 28, 2022 17:42:47 GMT
I looked him up and watched some of his Would I Lie To You? stuff on YouTube. He is a very funny man. If you enjoy Would I lie to you, then do try and find an episode with Bob Mortimer in it. Oh my word....
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Post by hop2 on Aug 28, 2022 18:30:51 GMT
I don’t like it when people offer their ‘factual’ opinions on what they did not witness. As if they did witness the occurrence.
I don’t like it when people act like know it alls.
And sorry I’m not terribly fond of most gins. Especially gin paired with tonic but I’ll take a gin lemonade if your serving.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 28, 2022 18:55:07 GMT
And sorry I’m not terribly fond of most gins. Especially gin paired with tonic but I’ll take a gin lemonade if your serving. Girl, whatever you want. Doesn't need to involve gin. "Bartender, give her a tall one!"
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anaterra
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Post by anaterra on Aug 29, 2022 22:06:38 GMT
She's baaaacccckkkkk.... lol or at least her youtube videos are back up...
I still sub to her yt and 2 new videos popped up today... so i looked at her channel and the old videos are back up...
Im sure all the prayers helped Jesus bring her back... the fb group must be all twitter pated
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Post by mom on Aug 29, 2022 22:17:22 GMT
She's baaaacccckkkkk.... lol or at least her youtube videos are back up... I still sub to her yt and 2 new videos popped up today... so i looked at her channel and the old videos are back up... Im sure all the prayers helped Jesus bring her back... the fb group must be all twitter pated She just sent out a long ass letter, and you are right. Jesus and his Army brought her back. She just doesn't under why people are so mean to her. She came to Patreon get away from meanies but she's just gonna show them more kindness.
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anaterra
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Post by anaterra on Aug 29, 2022 22:30:31 GMT
I dont follow her patreon so i didn't see the letter
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pantsonfire
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Take a step back, evaluate what is important, and enjoy your life with those who you love.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 30, 2022 0:55:12 GMT
Anyone care to share? Curious what it says.
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Post by rune2484 on Aug 30, 2022 1:00:22 GMT
"Scrapbooking is more than just a hobby.
I think alot of us feel that way. And I think alot of us utilize scrapbooking as a way to deal with the 'not-so-happy' fragments of real life. Scrapbooking provides us with a happy place to take our mind and emotions.
Recently, some people within our own scrapbooking community decided to throw some unkindness my way. I don't know why. I certainly don't understand why. I stay in my own lane, I mind my own business, and I try to encourage others as much as I can. Most of us that share anything about our hobby online are used to negative comments and you learn to let that roll off your back. But, when people attack you personally, that is a line you don't cross. And to know that this particular unkindness came from other scrappers (whom I adored), it completely crushed my spirit.
I don't do the 'drama' thing in life; but one thing I loathe even more than drama- it is nastiness. Because I don't understand that concept. We are taught in grade school that if you don't care for something or someone, you just move on. It's not hard. So why people in our hobby and our scrapbooking community don't grasp that idea; I will never understand. And I certainly don't understand why I am such an easy target for people. I truly thought that my coming here to Patreon, I would not have to deal with this type of behavior. I guess unkindness is everywhere; even within our hobby. A hobby in which we focus on the good things in life. Negativity has no room here.
So long story short- I have cried many, many tears and said many prayers. My spirit was crushed so harshly that I truly thought scrapbooking was over for me. Not just online, but in my personal life as well. That fact upset me even more, because scrapbooking is way more than just a hobby for me, and I am sure, for you too.
But....GOD sent me an Army. His Army. He sent many people in this hobby and our community that helped me carry this burden and try to get my mind, spirit and my scrappy heart back to the right place. I feel that He has laid it on my heart as to how to lift this sadness and this unkind burden. And that is to 'SHOW EVEN MORE KINDESS'. . .
That's God for ya. Take something unkind and make it MORE kind.
And that is what I will do.
I simply cannot let these people take away my happy place, my joy and what I feel I am led to do. Thank you being that Army for me. Thank you for helping my carry this burden. Thank you for showing me who to focus on. Thank you for standing up for me. Thanks for speaking out. Thanks for having my back. Thank you for being someone who BUILDS this hobby; rather than tear it down. Thank you...
We are going to KEEP ON, as scrapbooking is more than just a hobby for us!
And the ones that don't like my videos, my voice, my accent, my personality, my hosting platforms, what we do here at RTS, and can't encourage others; they can simply MOVE ON...
Plus, I have too much paper to stop now. Lol.
Can I get an AMEN?
Giddy Up.
xoxoxo
Janet"
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Post by hop2 on Aug 30, 2022 1:16:42 GMT
Lots of playing the victim card in that statement.
And a few contradictions
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Post by quinmm14 on Aug 30, 2022 1:33:56 GMT
Lots of playing the victim card in that statement. And a few contradictions Yep lot's of let's blame the other guy mindset there. And poor little me going on. And can someone please explain why you couldn't continue to personally scrapbook if you really wanted to? If you really loved this hobby so much what the hell difference does or would it make? Other than money. And adoring fans.
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Elsabelle
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Post by Elsabelle on Aug 30, 2022 1:41:09 GMT
Her comments about what she's led to do remind me of when I was watching one of her series and she said that as she was designing the layouts for the series she felt it wasn't her that the inspiration came from suggesting that God inspired her to design the series. Ever since then DD has been calling her Prophet Janice.
I was curious to see if her return would have any self reflection. Any 'maybe I overreacted' or 'maybe what was said wasn't as offensive as I originally thought.' No. Just more theatrics. "My spirit was crushed so harshly"? Her behavior and influence led to her followers bullying, harassing, and threatening someone. No mention of that. I cancelled my Patreon sub. I don't want to be a part of the army that she imagines God sent her. I won't be calling down fire and sulfur on anyone who comments about how she moves her hands.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 30, 2022 3:04:00 GMT
Her comments about what she's led to do remind me of when I was watching one of her series and she said that as she was designing the layouts for the series she felt it wasn't her that the inspiration came from suggesting that God inspired her to design the series. Ever since then DD has been calling her Prophet Janice. I was curious to see if her return would have any self reflection. Any 'maybe I overreacted' or 'maybe what was said wasn't as offensive as I originally thought.' No. Just more theatrics. "My spirit was crushed so harshly"? Her behavior and influence led to her followers bullying, harassing, and threatening someone. No mention of that. I cancelled my Patreon sub. I don't want to be a part of the army that she imagines God sent her. I won't be calling down fire and sulfur on anyone who comments about how she moves her hands. Her videos on you tube were all hands so if that bothers someone then Janet is not their cup of tea. Period. It’s not mean. It’s just a preference. If you state that preference without naming names it is not bullying or mean. There’s any number of people who make hand gestures in crafting videos. I mostly listen to scrapping videos when I’m working on other things so for me I have to enjoy the persons voice. No offense to anyone but if your voice gets on my nerves then your video won’t serve my need of background noise while I’m working. It’s not mean to state that preference especially if I don’t add a name to it. There are people I follow on Instagram that I’m not going to listen to videos from them. Love their work that I see on Instagram but the videos don’t fit what I’m looking for. I’m not asking anyone to change. They should be themselves. That how it is, it is fine. But my preferences are different than other peoples preferences and not every video is going to match all of that at once. It’s fine. That’s how life works. People are different. People like different things. It is just how it is. I mean really, wouldn’t it be boring if we were all the same & liked the same things?
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scrapmommy3
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Post by scrapmommy3 on Aug 30, 2022 3:34:28 GMT
Phew finally caught up on the thread. We were too busy the last couple of weeks for me to keep up.... so happy for the drink recipes and memes! You all are the funnest part of this site!
I am thankful I left the Facebook group when it all began. Oh my... if someone could share the YT with me I will definitely support. TIA...
I recently got my first gin it is empress and infused with butterfly pea flowers. Very yummy mixed with lavender and honey.
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Post by Embri on Aug 30, 2022 5:27:26 GMT
Holy cognitive dissonance, Batman!
Does Janet hear herself? I don't think she does, because that letter is a textbook example of performative hypocrisy. Blech. Oh, and a massive victim complex. If "I don't like you" is enough to 'crush her spirit' (and for clarity, I don't think what the YTer said was even CLOSE to that, but more a "I don't care for this trait", which isn't a personal attack!) then in all kindness Janet needs to get away the internet, permanently. Like hire a media manager and never touch e-mail, directly interact with forums/blogs/followers, or read anything that hasn't been checked for content levels of informational insulation.
But I'm pretty sure we all know what's actually going to happen, and it ain't that.
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Chinagirl828
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Aug 30, 2022 9:19:44 GMT
Well the "I don't do the 'drama' thing" comment made me laugh, I considered the "was it me, I know it was me, tell me it's me" series of comments from Janet on the original fb post to be rather dramatic. As was making all her youtube videos private. The comments on the post on Patreon are also way over the top for what I feel is warranted in this situation, every other post starts with "amen" or falls back on "they must be jealous of you", one of the comments even says "times of persecution like these"
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Post by riversong1963 on Aug 30, 2022 11:32:16 GMT
Well the "I don't do the 'drama' thing" comment made me laugh, I considered the "was it me, I know it was me, tell me it's me" series of comments from Janet on the original fb post to be rather dramatic. As was making all her youtube videos private. The comments on the post on Patreon are also way over the top for what I feel is warranted in this situation, every other post starts with "amen" or falls back on "they must be jealous of you", one of the comments even says "times of persecution like these" SMH. Like they even know what persecution really is. Sadly, they aren't the only ones who use this term so loosely. And, yes, we must all be jealous. "It's not me; it's everyone else." That explains it. What a delusional, isolated world they live in.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 30, 2022 11:53:53 GMT
I don't do the 'drama' thing in life; but one thing I loathe even more than drama- it is nastiness. Because I don't understand that concept. We are taught in grade school that if you don't care for something or someone, you just move on. It's not hard. So why people in our hobby and our scrapbooking community don't grasp that idea; I will never understand. ummm... this sounds a lot like what she, and her "Army" of followers, did / didn't do to START the whole freaking thing. She doesn't do drama in real life-- just on FB and Patreon, then?
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christinec68
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Post by christinec68 on Aug 30, 2022 12:15:06 GMT
Bless her heart
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naby64
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Post by naby64 on Aug 30, 2022 13:28:50 GMT
I have so much I could say. But last night I got called out by my DH that I was too invested in this thread. I told him true but I had been bit by the spider and I wanted to see what happened. It hit me this morning that before our fall-out, she had been looking for a die set of banners. Really cute banners. I was on vacation in FL and went to TM looking for those gosh darn banners for her. AND FOUND THEM! AND SENT THEM TO HER!! I wish I had kept them because banners came back full swing! She was kind enough to send me a handful of white ones to color as needed, so I'll give her that.
So all of this to say, I will read and hope that more see her true colors. That her "Army" will read and see the world does not revolve around Janet. And that this lowly Christian(me) will see that her persecution is nothing like true persecution of Christians around the world. Look up the definition Janet. People don't like traits of certain people. That doesn't mean you were persecuted. YOUR "Army" went after someone that just mentioned a trait and didn't even mention your name! If there was persecution anywhere it was directed towards the YTer. Lordy if y'all were around me enough, I am positive there is something you would find to dislike. I talk too loud, I laugh really loud, my southern drawl becomes syrupy at times, I like a good dirty joke and fly the F word with abandon. Sometimes in my church office. God knows my heart. But I will fight tooth and nail for those I love and know. Heaven help you if you cross my children. I just told my YDS I was ready to fly out to Norfolk on my broom and give some XO's a piece of my mind for screwing up some career papers. He said he wished it was that easy. He knows his momma bear and what she is capable of.
Anyway, I look forward to seeing the next ongoing saga. I need to not get so invested in this one. My spite comes out too quickly these days.
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scrapmommy3
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Post by scrapmommy3 on Aug 30, 2022 15:50:37 GMT
Lots of playing the victim card in that statement. And a few contradictions Lately on YT and TT, at least, creators are pulling out their Victim Cards and playing them with hour long videos. Sometimes it's in the form of recent trauma, past trauma or self created/invented trauma. But it is all some sort of trauma. I always swear I'm not going to click on another video of someone giving me the tea or telling the story or whatever their tag line is to suck me in. I am usually able to scroll on by but every once in awhile I get to a video of someone announcing a split from a significant other or a company they can no longer represent or that there were some really mean comments, and they just aren't sure they can continue. This seems to be a growing trend, more times than not, to play on they sympathies of their followers. It's sad to me to watch people pander to their audience by being a victim, maybe that means I am uncaring, but it makes me itchy and keeps me away from these platforms for awhile until I forget (a couple of days, I forget often ).
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Post by kmage on Aug 30, 2022 16:10:58 GMT
I am extremely uncomfortable with the "called by God" and "Army sent by God" mentality...
Many horrifying events and atrocities have been committed by people who decide they have been "Called by God" to act upon others.
Mobilizing a hate mob against someone else, and feeling like this mob was justified by God/Jesus/Higher Power isn't Christian or scrapbooking...it's freaking creepy AF.
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dlb
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Post by dlb on Aug 30, 2022 16:40:36 GMT
really... 540 people have commented on her Patreon post, as I had to go see.... I canceled by sub, but I can still see the things until the end of the month... up to 541. In my guess, she was/is raking in over $1000/month from people. Would love to see how many have left this month!
She is full of crap.
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Post by mom on Aug 30, 2022 17:16:13 GMT
really... 540 people have commented on her Patreon post, as I had to go see.... I canceled by sub, but I can still see the things until the end of the month... up to 541. In my guess, she was/is raking in over $1000/month from people. Would love to see how many have left this month! She is full of crap. I canceled my membership as well.
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beatrix
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Post by beatrix on Aug 30, 2022 17:57:22 GMT
Delusion at its finest
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anaterra
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Post by anaterra on Aug 30, 2022 19:18:15 GMT
Do I have to turn in my pea card if I choose to stay in the fb group and participate in the swaps???
I really do enjoy that aspect of the fb group...
I did snooze it for 30 days to get past all this brohaha... lol i love that word... but as far a scrapbook fb groups go... its pretty active and i like the layout shares...
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 30, 2022 20:39:49 GMT
A persecution complex in the name of one's god. Where have I heard this before? Hmm... I'm so happy to hear the divine army is here to assist here against these imaginary attacks. If the divine psychiatrist could now come and give her a check-up, wouldn't hurt.
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Post by infochick on Aug 30, 2022 20:58:27 GMT
I am extremely uncomfortable with the "called by God" and "Army sent by God" mentality... Many horrifying events and atrocities have been committed by people who decide they have been "Called by God" to act upon others. Mobilizing a hate mob against someone else, and feeling like this mob was justified by God/Jesus/Higher Power isn't Christian or scrapbooking...it's freaking creepy AF. I'm with you on this. I currently sub, just because I like the mindless chatter about scrapbooking and I can put it on to listen while I'm doing other things, but this whole thing and the letter have left a bad taste in my mouth. Seriously considering unsubscribing, because while I've gotten some really good organizational ideas from Janet, I'm pretty sure I don't want to feed into validating her or supporting her with my money.
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