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Post by mom on Aug 30, 2022 21:05:37 GMT
I am extremely uncomfortable with the "called by God" and "Army sent by God" mentality... Many horrifying events and atrocities have been committed by people who decide they have been "Called by God" to act upon others. Mobilizing a hate mob against someone else, and feeling like this mob was justified by God/Jesus/Higher Power isn't Christian or scrapbooking...it's freaking creepy AF. I'm with you on this. I currently sub, just because I like the mindless chatter about scrapbooking and I can put it on to listen while I'm doing other things, but this whole thing and the letter have left a bad taste in my mouth. Seriously considering unsubscribing, because while I've gotten some really good organizational ideas from Janet, I'm pretty sure I don't want to feed into validating her or supporting her with my money. This is how I feel. I actually got a lot of organization ideas from her as well but could not continue to support her when she is using God the way she did. Im usually a 'you do you' kind of Christian...but for me, this is a line in the sand. God would never approve of the mob mentality that she is supporting and to suggest otherwise is just wrong. Had she come back and just said 'you know, my feelings were hurt but I've taken some time and thought about it and upon reflection, I am choosing to move forward and as a group, I encourage you to as well. Now lets scrapbook' --- I would have totally supported her and continued to be a subscriber.
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Post by KelleeM on Aug 30, 2022 23:00:31 GMT
I cancelled my subscription right after this all started and didn’t realize that I could still access Patreon until the month is over. I just read a few comments to her post. Seriously, what’s she putting in the Kool-Aid (although it was actually Flavor Aid because he bought the cheap stuff)? I wonder what would happen if there was a negative comment left.
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Post by mom on Aug 30, 2022 23:03:28 GMT
I cancelled my subscription right after this all started and didn’t realize that I could still access Patreon until the month is over. I just read a few comments to her post. Seriously, what’s she putting in the Kool-Aid (although it was actually Flavor Aid because he bought the cheap stuff)? I wonder what would happen if there was a negative comment left. Ha! I wondered the same thing. I actually posted last week over there asking if there would be new content for Sept and if not, should I cancel now. I got hand slapped and told that the best way to support our friend was to pay for my membership even if she didn't post.
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Post by KelleeM on Aug 30, 2022 23:06:06 GMT
I cancelled my subscription right after this all started and didn’t realize that I could still access Patreon until the month is over. I just read a few comments to her post. Seriously, what’s she putting in the Kool-Aid (although it was actually Flavor Aid because he bought the cheap stuff)? I wonder what would happen if there was a negative comment left. Ha! I wondered the same thing. I actually posted last week over there asking if there would be new content for Sept and if not, should I cancel now. I got hand slapped and told that the best way to support our friend was to pay for my membership even if she didn't post. Because she needs the money? Or just to know that her “army” is with her? Oh my…
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Post by MichyM on Aug 30, 2022 23:25:36 GMT
“Crazy Patreon Scrapbooker has Major Martyr Syndrome”
I know no one involved, and have only read this thread and watched several of tour Youtubers videos to show support, but even I can see that. All I can do is read updates and shake my head.
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Post by quinmm14 on Aug 31, 2022 0:15:08 GMT
Ha! I wondered the same thing. I actually posted last week over there asking if there would be new content for Sept and if not, should I cancel now. I got hand slapped and told that the best way to support our friend was to pay for my membership even if she didn't post. Because she needs the money? Or just to know that her “army” is with her? Oh my… Both?
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Post by mom on Aug 31, 2022 0:28:02 GMT
“Crazy Patreon Scrapbooker has Major Martyr Syndrome” I know no one involved, and have only read this thread and watched several of tour Youtubers videos to show support, but even I can see that. All I can do is read updates and shake my head. Off topic, but I am so glad to see you posting. I've missed you! Edit: I just looked and apparently I'm just not going to the right section of the Boards as you have been posting, but I just wasn't seeing it!
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 31, 2022 0:35:03 GMT
Do I have to turn in my pea card if I choose to stay in the fb group and participate in the swaps??? I really do enjoy that aspect of the fb group... I did snooze it for 30 days to get past all this brohaha... lol i love that word... but as far a scrapbook fb groups go... its pretty active and i like the layout shares... We should all be free to do what we want! I do enjoy the layout shares too. I also enjoy my eye-rolls with some people posting. Too much. Way too much, but I am sure that I can be way too much for some people too. I am of the camp that if it makes you happy, stay. If it doesn't make you happy, leave. I often try to put myself in other people's shoes to understand them. My guess is that Janet was offended because she doesn't make negative comments about people and does try to remain positive on her videos. So she felt very hurt whether any comment was intentional or not. I know I could sit for 12 hours at parent teacher conferences and have 28 great conferences and the one I would remember would be the one parent that wasn't happy. It is how I am wired. But I also know that if you are putting yourself out there on YouTube or Patreon (or any social media) you are going to have situations that aren't all positive. It happens here. You have to learn how to navigate things when they don't go your way (real or imagined). I am also of the camp that you don't go looking to be offended. I would love to have seen Janet extend the olive branch and show how Christianity was taught in my church. I feel like her message just created a bigger divide, but that isn't my call. There are posters on the NSRB that are wonderful at clarifying, apologizing if needed, admitting they were having a bad day (or even been tipsy), and moving past a disagreement. I think it shows a person's morality, religion, or whatever they choose to call it. It is being human at its finest.
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Post by cbscrapper on Aug 31, 2022 4:11:11 GMT
Do I have to turn in my pea card if I choose to stay in the fb group and participate in the swaps??? I really do enjoy that aspect of the fb group... I did snooze it for 30 days to get past all this brohaha... lol i love that word... but as far a scrapbook fb groups go... its pretty active and i like the layout shares... Of course it’s ok if you stay there! (But you have to report any shenanigans. 😉🤣) I was amused at how many people asked “Who’s Janet?” Or “What’s RTS?” Do people really not pay attention to the groups they join?
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Post by Embri on Aug 31, 2022 8:45:54 GMT
I was amused at how many people asked “Who’s Janet?” Or “What’s RTS?” Do people really not pay attention to the groups they join? I mean, I can't speak for anyone but myself but I don't follow or sub to any scrapbooking thingamabobs. I'm scrapbook-adjacent at best - gimme all those sweet, sweet die cuts and paper piecing sets, yes please!
So yeah, up until this thread the only RTS in my lexicon was 'real time strategy' - not my favourite genre either.
As for if the RTS Patreon is worth your dollar or not, well that's a personal choice now isn't it? If you get a dollar's worth of value and you're content financially supporting the creator, then go for it. Nobody here is going to try and police what people do offsite, because we're all reasonable grown-ups.
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Post by infochick on Aug 31, 2022 16:00:36 GMT
I cancelled my subscription right after this all started and didn’t realize that I could still access Patreon until the month is over. I just read a few comments to her post. Seriously, what’s she putting in the Kool-Aid (although it was actually Flavor Aid because he bought the cheap stuff)? I wonder what would happen if there was a negative comment left. Ha! I wondered the same thing. I actually posted last week over there asking if there would be new content for Sept and if not, should I cancel now. I got hand slapped and told that the best way to support our friend was to pay for my membership even if she didn't post. Eek! This is one of the attitudes I just don't understand. As soon as you start to monetize your content it feels to me a bit more like a business venture. You have people paying for a product--either deliver the product or expect people will back out. She is not my friend, I have never even met her. Why in the world would anyone pay for content that isn't being posted? That really irritates me! ETA: I was in the same boat as wondering when to pull the plug and cancel due to lack of content.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 31, 2022 20:04:12 GMT
I was amused at how many people asked “Who’s Janet?” Or “What’s RTS?” Do people really not pay attention to the groups they join? I mean, I can't speak for anyone but myself but I don't follow or sub to any scrapbooking thingamabobs. I'm scrapbook-adjacent at best - gimme all those sweet, sweet die cuts and paper piecing sets, yes please!
So yeah, up until this thread the only RTS in my lexicon was 'real time strategy' - not my favourite genre either.
As for if the RTS Patreon is worth your dollar or not, well that's a personal choice now isn't it? If you get a dollar's worth of value and you're content financially supporting the creator, then go for it. Nobody here is going to try and police what people do offsite, because we're all reasonable grown-ups. I think she was referring to people in the Love RTS fb group who asked who's Janet or what's RTS? Totally understandable that people here might not know her. But, a fb fan group created around her?
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Post by workingclassdog on Aug 31, 2022 20:41:27 GMT
I was amused at how many people asked “Who’s Janet?” Or “What’s RTS?” Do people really not pay attention to the groups they join? I can admit to 'Who's Janet?' haha...A few years ago I stumbled upon her sticker organization and followed it to a tee .. changed everything. Loved it. This post came up and I am thinking, isn't that the same person who I followed a short time for this sticker organizing thing? lol.. Now that her stuff is back up.. YEP same person. Shows you how closely I 'follow' people. If it isn't The Pioneer Woman or Crazy Lamp Lady, I usually have no idea.
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Post by msliz on Aug 31, 2022 20:54:41 GMT
I was amused at how many people asked “Who’s Janet?” Or “What’s RTS?” Do people really not pay attention to the groups they join? I can admit to 'Who's Janet?' haha...A few years ago I stumbled upon her sticker organization and followed it to a tee .. changed everything. Loved it. This post came up and I am thinking, isn't that the same person who I followed a short time for this sticker organizing thing? lol.. Now that her stuff is back up.. YEP same person. Shows you how closely I 'follow' people. If it isn't The Pioneer Woman or Crazy Lamp Lady, I usually have no idea. I know I'm going to regret asking, but who is Crazy Lamp Lady?
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Post by Aheartfeltcard on Aug 31, 2022 21:29:05 GMT
I admit I got sucked into the entire drama and followed RTS from the beginning of it. I checked here to see if it would be discussed, and boom I think within 15 minutes this thread began. I am too curious about the crazy lamp lady.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 31, 2022 21:58:19 GMT
I can admit to 'Who's Janet?' haha...A few years ago I stumbled upon her sticker organization and followed it to a tee .. changed everything. Loved it. This post came up and I am thinking, isn't that the same person who I followed a short time for this sticker organizing thing? lol.. Now that her stuff is back up.. YEP same person. Shows you how closely I 'follow' people. If it isn't The Pioneer Woman or Crazy Lamp Lady, I usually have no idea. I know I'm going to regret asking, but who is Crazy Lamp Lady?No, you won't regret this. She's a young lady who started off purchasing things from thrift stores and garage sales and reselling them. She had a fondness for lamps early on. Through the last several years, she started posting videos every day of what she buys and sells and it has turned from a part-time gig to purchasing a large place to store her stuff and she sells on eBay and does extremely well for herself. She quite her job and now she and her significant other run the business and own several homes and she is really quite fun to watch. She has a big following (like Janet), but is pretty down to earth and raises her family, runs her business, and loves to go on daily runs to Goodwill, antique businesses (in the northeast - mostly Pennylsvania) and a few hoarder homes. You can find her under Crazy Lamp Lady on YouTube. I have no interest in doing what she does, but I do love to watch her do it.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 31, 2022 21:58:37 GMT
I admit I got sucked into the entire drama and followed RTS from the beginning of it. I checked here to see if it would be discussed, and boom I think within 15 minutes this thread began. I am too curious about the crazy lamp lady. See above!
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Post by jediannie on Aug 31, 2022 22:55:59 GMT
She's a young lady who started off purchasing things from thrift stores and garage sales and reselling them. She had a fondness for lamps early on. I've seen her videos before, she finds some great stuff!
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Post by msliz on Aug 31, 2022 23:09:09 GMT
Thanks for the recommendation!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 0:31:04 GMT
I'm baffled as to why God didn't lay on her heart for her to show kindness and forgive.
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Post by Embri on Sept 1, 2022 3:17:22 GMT
Evil acts in the name of good remain evil, and good work remains noble no matter in who's name it is done. Or, practice what you preach, if you prefer. Not much of a preach person myself, but someone sure does love to flaunt their Sky Daddy devotion to the masses.
Talk is cheap. When someone shows you who they really are, believe them.
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Post by hrod on Sept 1, 2022 10:41:13 GMT
I’m not a patreon member, but her new video is “Kits and Kindness”. Someone is going to ride this victim train for a while…
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Post by lostwithout2peas on Sept 1, 2022 20:34:18 GMT
I'm baffled as to why God didn't lay on her heart for her to show kindness and forgive. This! This x100! Instead she gathered up the villagers and grabbed their pitchforks in a very Christian like way. 🙄
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Post by sleepingbooty on Sept 1, 2022 21:59:40 GMT
I’m not a patreon member, but her new video is “Kits and Kindness”. Someone is going to ride this victim train for a while… Take it away, Selena... Kill your kit with kindness Kill it with kindness Kill it with kindness Go ahead, go ahead now
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Post by cbscrapper on Sept 3, 2022 18:33:40 GMT
I was amused at how many people asked “Who’s Janet?” Or “What’s RTS?” Do people really not pay attention to the groups they join? I mean, I can't speak for anyone but myself but I don't follow or sub to any scrapbooking thingamabobs. I'm scrapbook-adjacent at best - gimme all those sweet, sweet die cuts and paper piecing sets, yes please!
So yeah, up until this thread the only RTS in my lexicon was 'real time strategy' - not my favourite genre either.
As for if the RTS Patreon is worth your dollar or not, well that's a personal choice now isn't it? If you get a dollar's worth of value and you're content financially supporting the creator, then go for it. Nobody here is going to try and police what people do offsite, because we're all reasonable grown-ups. To clarify, I meant how many people who are members of the Love RTS group on FB that asked in that group who was Janet or RTS. I don’t expect people outside of that group to know.
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Post by cbscrapper on Sept 3, 2022 18:38:48 GMT
I mean, I can't speak for anyone but myself but I don't follow or sub to any scrapbooking thingamabobs. I'm scrapbook-adjacent at best - gimme all those sweet, sweet die cuts and paper piecing sets, yes please!
So yeah, up until this thread the only RTS in my lexicon was 'real time strategy' - not my favourite genre either.
As for if the RTS Patreon is worth your dollar or not, well that's a personal choice now isn't it? If you get a dollar's worth of value and you're content financially supporting the creator, then go for it. Nobody here is going to try and police what people do offsite, because we're all reasonable grown-ups. I think she was referring to people in the Love RTS fb group who asked who's Janet or what's RTS? Totally understandable that people here might not know her. But, a fb fan group created around her? Thanks! Exactly what I meant!
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Post by Embri on Sept 3, 2022 21:12:36 GMT
Well, I may not have known before, but I certainly do now! (and yes, makes much more sense to be about people not knowing who Janet is if they're in one of her groups.)
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Post by nana2ava on Sept 6, 2022 3:51:51 GMT
Long time lurker. Can someone PM me the YouTuber so I can support her too?
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Post by Elsabelle on Sept 6, 2022 14:37:28 GMT
Long time lurker. Can someone PM me the YouTuber so I can support her too? Welcome! Just curious if we might know you from the Love RTS Facebook group.
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Post by nana2ava on Sept 6, 2022 15:07:24 GMT
Long time lurker. Can someone PM me the YouTuber so I can support her too? Thank you for the DM. I already follow her and love her videos. I will make an effort to comment more.
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