I don’t participate in the political threads

This is very informative on the different kinds of stutters and the challenges of everyday life with a speech disorder.

www.nytimes.com/2022/08/23/opinion/stutter-speech-listening.html


And Biden's struggles with his speech disorder, in particular

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/joe-biden-stutter-profile/602401/

WHAT JOE BIDEN CAN’T BRING HIMSELF TO SAY
His verbal stumbles have voters worried about his mental fitness. Maybe they’d be more understanding if they knew he’s still fighting a stutter.
By John Hendrickson

“These people.” 🙄

I want to echo this. Why when people get called out do they attack people who disagree with them by saying they must be unhappy or miserable and then proceed to list off all the supposed things they do that make them superior. Such a weird flex.

I sometimes post on political threads, but not often. I do read them since I use the ignore feature. I vote religiously as it is so important. I also have a very happy life. Being politically aware and active does not preclude joy. The two are not mutually exclusive. If more people who actually cared about their fellow humans were politically active maybe more people would have joy in their lives though.

I remember a lot of the posts from GaJenny on the old board. She can claim what she likes but it is clear a leopard can't change their spots.

IMO, I believe both of these statements to be untrue for this board.

If we are to pidgeonhole members here, I do believe there are far more left leaning peas than right, so right leaning peas probably will feel ganged up on.

It is always difficult having a conversation via written word as things get lengthy and often times tone can not be determined. It is a lengthy process and most people are not always watching the board /participating and able to have good back and forth conversation on top of having limited time.  Also it is not a political board so there are various threads but many peas only really post on ones that they are most interested in. Often that means the same people are posting on specific types of threads, so obviously you are going to get the same type of discussions and answers.

As IRL, there are definitely peas who enjoy having more political type conversations here than others.
There are those that are more passionate and/or are more vocal than others.
There are some that are more negative than others.
There are some that are more affected by various policies than others.
There are some that are just here for other reasons and feel no need to post/read the political forums.
There are some that just don’t want to read long posts and how can you have a discussion without words.
There are some that do just like to argue.
There are some that have very specific sources/only a few sources that they read.
There are some that…

The way that a message board operates and how threads are posted to can often make it feel you (general you) are being “ganged up on” when others feel that really isn’t the case.
There are many very logical discussions if you actually read a lot of the political threads, the problem is they may not be your (general your) logic.
There are many that are willing to discuss negative things and some that are not.

Welcome to the real world…it is no different here than anywhere else.  I read a lot of different sources. I am curious and read the comments on articles of a variety of different sources and there is sometimes not a lot of “logical” discussion by people who have only talking points; who can’t/won’t tell you what is meant by the newest catch phrase (I.e woke, open borders)…no matter their party affiliation.  The nice thing about an online message board is you can take what you like and leave the rest.  You can also turn it off/disengage when it is too much or bothers you.  Non-internet real life does not always offer you that option.

It’s interesting that my left leaning, but not particularly politically informed Dh, was talking about Biden’s decline.

His “proof” was a TikTok video from The Sun. It was after a speech and he was talking about his rambling and not making sense.

In the short clip, Biden mentioned he wanted to go to bed. He was answering questions and kinda trailing off. He sounded and looked slow. He was “cut off” and led away.

First thing I noticed: it was out of context. Next I saw a spot with no audio. Then I saw the cuts to the video. Then I also noticed that it seemed slowed down.

I found another version. I concluded it was slightly slowed down to make him sound slower and look slower and dazed. I think the audio cuts so you don’t hear the reporter slowed down. The other reporters are too quiet to hear what they are saying. We don’t even know what he is responding to. He does mention going to bed. Totally self deprecating humor. Someone says no more questions and Biden leaves.

There wasn’t anything in the video content wise that I could find fault with. We don’t even know what the questions were. It was obviously edited and even with the edits, it just didn’t seem like a super big deal. I mean compared to Trump?

Also, as a teacher that speaks off and on all day, answers questions, lectures, etc… is 51, Biden doesn’t worry me. He can be mildly cringy, but unless you have a job that requires speaking like his does (and mine is a lot less) you don’t know how mentally taxing it is to remain coherent while monitoring the audience, hearing and answering questions on the spot, think about what is coming up next, while being a normal human with human frailties like having to pee, being tired, getting a random pain, having a headache, etc….

I forget what I just said to which class, I repeat, I lose my train of thought, I say words wrong, I make mistakes. And I don’t have a speech impediment.

Yep, he’s old. :::insert all the ageist/ableist societal baggage here:::: plus we need new blood. I agree. Still…he holds his own imo.

Batphone. 🦇🦇🦇

Do I think there should be a maximum as well as minimum age to be president[/quote]

There is a minimum age. It's 35.

Given her regular participation in political threads, I think that she knows that. Maybe her statement would have better worded “a maximum age *to go along with the already established minimum age* to be President.” 

We are talking about whether Biden and Trump are TOO OLD to be President, rather than too young.

Cawthorn, however, is a prime example of the detriment of electing politicians who are too young to show good judgment. 

What do you think? Who do you think should run for President? Who do you want to vote for and why? I haven’t seen you on political threads before, although I have been busy since school started, so may have missed your posts. I’d like to know more about your views. 

Not a single one of theses issues are the effects of a stutter...







The most recent episode where he repeated the same exact story, verbatim, within a couple of minutes.

At this point in his life, not knowing and understanding that it is not at all okay to "nibble" on a little girl's ear,  that you don't even know, causing her to be upset.

When asked if he's going to declare a climate emergency...
Biden "I’ve already done that." 🤔

Biden "we're going to build a bridge across the Indian Ocean"

Biden "Putin is clearly losing the war in Iraq"

He looked like he forgot that Schumer? just shook his hand and he held out his hand again for him to shake.

Always being confused on HOW to leave the podium in recent years.

Thinking he's running for United States Senate, (at least twice) when he was running for president.

Repeatedly not understanding not to read the stage directions.

Saying "We're in the process of deciding what I think." in response to a reporter's question.

Forgetting words, concepts, people's names and that this is the Biden presidency -not the Harris presidency.

Admitting that "they" won't let you take questions -saying that "they" are going to be mad at him if he does.

Repeatedly being guided around with hands on, moving him around like you would a 5 year old. I've seen Jill do it at least twice and the Easter Bunny once. Being treated like a man in a diminished mental state.
Even he, himself has commented on being treated like a child. 

Trying to put his jacket on. It was just short of a dog chasing his tail. It was alarmingly like a child who hadn't quite got the concept yet.

The press guy talking about when he was recovering from covid the first time, he said that Joe actually held up his plate to show him he ate everything on his plate.
Like a 3 year old.

Forgetting he had just been to the funeral days before, of a woman he started looking for and calling for her to come to the podium.

Rambling on about a guy named Cornpop while reminiscing about letting kids playing with his leg hair decades ago.





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Again, not a single one of theses issues are the effects of a stutter.

There is a minimum age. It's 35.[/quote]

Yes.. that is why I said a maximum as well as... because it already exists. Perhaps I should have said in addition to..

I’m in the process of reading the thread and haven’t gotten past this comment yet, but my memory is the same. She was a pretty rabid right-winger on the old board. 

Off to read the rest of the thread. 

Onelasttime addressed your bullshit pretty well, but I wanted to address this one. 

My mom passed more than three years ago. Do you know how often, especially the first months after she died, that I picked up the phone to call her?

According to you, that’s mental deterioration and just not being used to someone always being there.

Nice try.  

But trying to make the same level of comparison between what President Biden says and dumpster don says is like comparing an ant to a rhinoceros.  It really is.

This was the most insincere, sanctimonious start to a thread and request for “conversation” I’ve seen in quite a while.

P.S. I can have joy in my life and care enough about other people and our government to purposefully take an interest in politics at the same time. To insinuate otherwise is ridiculous. A poor attempt to go on the offensive rather than actually participate in the conversation you were supposedly interested in having.