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Post by mich5481 on May 3, 2024 16:18:44 GMT
There have always been rules about the crew and the partners. I've read that teams have to stay within 20 feet of each other, except for roadblocks.
I believe the rule with the crew is similar- I know when they book their own flights, they have to have 4 seats per team (2 for the team, 1 for the camera operator, and 1 for the sound person).
Apparently their crew never showed up.
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Post by gina on May 3, 2024 19:43:28 GMT
Is this the first time we found out the rules about the crew following a team? Who knew. When Danny was giving her directions, he would say turn left but point right. Unless I misunderstood. She was obviously doing it wrong several times as people were honking at her. I can't really put my finger on why he bugged me. Perhaps because he sometimes seemed like he was *acting* for the camera. With his smile, words, demeanor. I get the closeness between a mom and a son, I have an only so I get it. BUT, I would never call him my best friend and he wouldn't call me his either. JMHO. Because if you watch him speak, he has this fake-ass smile and speaks through the smile. I can't describe it but if you watch back, you will get what I am saying. I AM SO GLAD I DON'T HAVE TO HEAR HIM SAY "MOM!" EVER AGAIN! |
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Post by melanell on May 3, 2024 23:01:26 GMT
I was really surprised that Rod & Leticia didn't opt for the seaweed cleaning detour. I felt like he could have probably carried them in that task, and they would have possibly checked in earlier. I'm glad they got to stay in the race, but if Danny & Angie didn't mess up with losing their crew then it might have been a different story.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on May 4, 2024 1:15:19 GMT
I thought Angie and Danny (Mom and son) would be eliminated because of a difficult physical challenge or a health issue for Mom, and was surprised that it was because of a driving error that caused them to lose their crew. I don't know the rule, but it seemed like Angie knew they shouldn't continue driving and needed to wait for their crew or go find them. I guess they didn't know there would be a penalty for going ahead without them. Vinny was nicer but maybe only because they were more successful and not lost! It bugged me that Amber felt like she needed to tell him 3 or 4 times that he did a good job with the street tennis. Dude can't handle that someone else did it more quickly. Danny’s immediate response when they lost the crew should have been to get on the radio to ask the crew how they wanted to reconnect. He waited too long and was out of range when he did try to call them. Then he said they would just keep going and meet them at the challenge. Ummm, hello? How was the crew supposed to know that. They were probably searching for them the entire time they had to wait. |
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Post by christinec68 on May 4, 2024 6:29:25 GMT
I listened to an exit interview with Danny and Angie.
They lost the crew in the round about - they were told they can circle as many times as they want to figure out the correct exit but the crew pulled off the circle at the wrong exit. Danny and Angie pulled off at the next exit but they were out of walkie talkie range and couldn’t communicate with them.
There was a security briefing where they were told to go to the next stop if you get separated from your crew so they did that but the crew got lost.
They waited 90 minutes for their crew to show up but in reality they were given another crew who had been there the whole time. The original crew members showed up 30 minutes after that.
They followed all the protocols for this type of situation and ended up getting eliminated bc of a crew/production error.
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Post by gina on May 4, 2024 14:05:34 GMT
Ok as stated plenty before, I was not a Dan/Angie fan at all but to get eliminated over a crew error? That just sucks and is unfair to them.
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Post by Tearisci on May 4, 2024 14:53:08 GMT
I think I'm the odd man out but I liked Angie/Danny. I would love to run the race with my son but we would be all over each other since we're so similar. It would not be pretty.
I was pretty bummed that they were eliminated due to a technicality. They should have tried to catch their crew instead of just waiting I feel.
I'm rooting for the boyfriends to win.
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Post by Lurkingpea on May 4, 2024 15:00:57 GMT
Ok as stated plenty before, I was not a Dan/Angie fan at all but to get eliminated over a crew error? That just sucks and is unfair to them. I agree. I know before when there's been like a car breakdown or something like that they just chalk it up to bad luck and the team has to suffer the consequences but this seems different. Especially since there was a crew there to film them. And how in the world could the crew have gotten that lost that it took them two hours to get to the next location? Even if Danny wasn't able to communicate with the crew somebody from the AR should have been able to talk to the crew to figure out what was going on. I read a similar interview with Danny. It would be interesting to hear from someone from the amazing race to hear their side of it. I can't imagine how they would justify that. |
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Post by gramma on May 4, 2024 15:09:33 GMT
Another odd man out here. I have immense admiration for Angie. An older, small female, not very strong but very, very determined to do better than her best.
It does not seem right that they were eliminated because of an error on the part of the Amazing Race.
The boyfriends on the other hand simply get on my nerves.
I call my daughter my best friend all the time, does that make me weird?
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Post by Tearisci on May 4, 2024 21:44:27 GMT
I call my daughter my best friend all the time, does that make me weird? My DS calls me his best friend and he's in his 30s. We are very close. |
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Post by melanell on May 5, 2024 1:50:07 GMT
DH was wondering if Angie made a mistake within the roundabout. She was mentioning her concern about driving on the opposite side of the road, and she also mentioned people honking at her in the traffic circle, so he wondering if part of the reason that the crew didn't follow them was that perhaps she inadvertently did something she shouldn't have right before she exited.
I know some people feel confused/anxious about roundabouts to begin with, then throw in stress from the race, and concern over driving on the left side of the road, it could easily happen that she merged when she should have yielded or accidently veered into the wrong lane at some point.
I felt a bit confused during that portion of the episode because I wasn't sure why people were honking at her, either.
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Post by grammadee on May 5, 2024 3:03:58 GMT
DH was wondering if Angie made a mistake within the roundabout. She was mentioning her concern about driving on the opposite side of the road, and she also mentioned people honking at her in the traffic circle, so he wondering if part of the reason that the crew didn't follow them was that perhaps she inadvertently did something she shouldn't have right before she exited. I know some people feel confused/anxious about roundabouts to begin with, then throw in stress from the race, and concern over driving on the left side of the road, it could easily happen that she merged when she should have yielded or accidently veered into the wrong lane at some point. I felt a bit confused during that portion of the episode because I wasn't sure why people were honking at her, either. I was thinking people were honking at her b/c she was not signaling her turns properly, so thought maybe that was why the crew exited onto a different road? Had she signaled an exit there, then stayed in the roundabout? |
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Post by Lurkingpea on May 5, 2024 3:26:20 GMT
DH was wondering if Angie made a mistake within the roundabout. She was mentioning her concern about driving on the opposite side of the road, and she also mentioned people honking at her in the traffic circle, so he wondering if part of the reason that the crew didn't follow them was that perhaps she inadvertently did something she shouldn't have right before she exited. I know some people feel confused/anxious about roundabouts to begin with, then throw in stress from the race, and concern over driving on the left side of the road, it could easily happen that she merged when she should have yielded or accidently veered into the wrong lane at some point. I felt a bit confused during that portion of the episode because I wasn't sure why people were honking at her, either. I was thinking people were honking at her b/c she was not signaling her turns properly, so thought maybe that was why the crew exited onto a different road? Had she signaled an exit there, then stayed in the roundabout? Even so why did it take the crew so long to catch up to them? The cast was supposedly given instructions if they were separated to go to the next checkpoint and wait for the crew to catch up to them. I don't understand how the crew could have been so far away and how the people at the checkpoints were not able to contact them to figure out what the heck was going on. It would be really nice to hear from the amazing race production what their side of the story is. |
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Post by silverlining on May 5, 2024 6:14:14 GMT
During the episode, both Danny and Angie said they received a penalty for losing the crew. I don't think they would say that they had a penalty if they hadn't been told that. It's odd now that it's being blamed on a crew error and no one is mentioning a penalty.
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Post by Lurkingpea on May 5, 2024 13:22:40 GMT
During the episode, both Danny and Angie said they received a penalty for losing the crew. I don't think they would say that they had a penalty if they hadn't been told that. It's odd now that it's being blamed on a crew error and no one is mentioning a penalty. Here is a clip from one of the articles I read. The Amazing Race 36 Angie and Danny Butler Interview And so I remember the camera person coming over to her car going like, "Hey, y'all have waited long enough. Y'all have had a penalty long enough. We're just going to grab a crew." Angie: And I was like, "Penalty?! What penalty? Why do we have a penalty? " So I did say that to the producers, like, "What was the penalty?" And he's like, "Oh, it's ok, just go." [Laughs.] There was a lot of "uhhh" that day. Danny: We end up getting to the mat. And literally on the mat, Phil is talking to us. And we see over in the corner all of the producers meeting, and they're talking. And Phil does not say, "You're eliminated." He's talking to us for like five minutes. So I'm sitting there going, "What's happening? Are they going to reverse the rule that make this a non-elimination leg or give us a time credit?" But ultimately, we went out. And to have it end that way? I'm like, "Yes! Something that's never happened in Amazing Race before!" parade.com/tv/the-amazing-race-36-angie-danny-butler-eliminated-interviewIn another article and mentioned that they were told to say "oh our crew was here" and it wasn't their crew it was a different crew. I was not a huge fan of them, I didn't dislike them as much as some people here did, but I do think they're handling it really well and they're being very gracious in their interviews and not putting any blame on the show at all |
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Post by melanell on May 5, 2024 15:34:33 GMT
Yes! Something that's never happened in Amazing Race before!" I think this was the issue in a nut shell. They had plans in place for this happening, but after so many seasons & years of it never actually occurring, they were all floundering when it did. Plus, of course if the crew really did get lost, that would have added to the mess. We were wondering how they knew the crew was separated, but yet couldn't get them un-lost so to speak, though, so that was weird. I agree that Danny & Angie are being very gracious about it. If it were not for the fact that Angie struggled so much, I would wonder if someday they may be invited back. But I can't see her wanting to try it again. |
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Post by paget on May 5, 2024 22:35:42 GMT
I liked Angie and Danny ok, more later than in the beginning - bummer that the weird crew situation occurred the way it did. I was surprised they made it this far. I feel like I need to go find Amber and help her- Vinny is a complete asshole. She’s not great either but she doesn’t the deserve the treatment he gives her. It’s really hard for me to listen to and adds to the reasons this is my least favorite season. It just seems boring and like the contestants are not that bright? I don’t have a favorite and don’t care much who wins at this point as long as it not Vinny. But of course it will be ambers fault for screwing up “the team.”
The pilots are fine. The boyfriends are fine. Ron and Leticia have a good relationship but I don’t feel they “need” it as much as others so it’s harder to root for them. The girlfriends haven’t been given much camera time so who even knows about them?!
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Post by melanell on May 6, 2024 11:34:02 GMT
The girlfriends haven’t been given much camera time so who even knows about them?! I just told DH that I'm surprised to be this far into the race and to still feel like I don't "know" that team at all. Yes, they are getting more camera time now, since we're down to half the number of teams it's inevitable, but it still feels noticeably less than some of the other teams to me. I didn't sit around and time things, but I swear they show more of Amber & Vinny than some of the other teams for sure---but that could just be that they drive me crazy, and so I feel like I'm watching more of them.  |
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Post by gina on May 6, 2024 14:36:56 GMT
Response from Danny & Angie:
Team Walla Walla Here and wanted to respond to all:
I just wanted to say the production crew of the Amazing Race does an absolutely incredible job. I know that this situation may feel weird and funky, but I know that production was doing everything they could to mediate the situation. They probably have never had a crew get separated from a cast in this way before. There are multiple moving parts and when something new comes up, they can learn from it but it doesn't take away from the incredible show they have put on for the last 20 years. I feel bad that people are like Oh I am boycotting the show because of this. There are really good people that do really good work and this was a situation they probably never saw coming!
It is a TV show! Where they took the clip of Me saying "Oh Look our Crew Arrived" you can look and see that was dubbed over or they don't show our crew actually arriving. I know on Survivor they have dubbed clips over of people saying things in different moments because they are trying to Tell a Story! How else are they supposed to explain releasing us from our vehicle? Again, I don't think they knew what was happening and felt we had received enough of a penalty.
From my perspective what I wished happened was we were allowed to continue the race, but then at the mat we received a time penalty that could account for "losing a crew".
Overall it was an absolutely incredible experience for myself as a super fan and to do everything I have dreamed of with my Mom. What a blessing and I don't take it for granted. This show has done so much for my life and I know while this situation may feel unfair, we have a really incredible Final 5 left that deserves all the glory for racing as hard as they are!
I know I have said it before but, this maturity & grace with their (his?) response has really made me like them a bit more than I did during the actual race. Very classy.
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Post by christinec68 on May 6, 2024 15:22:57 GMT
I agree about how incredibly gracious they’ve been about this. As a super super fan, I imagine he would like being part of a wildly unprecedented situation that will live on in Amazing Race lore for years to come.
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Post by fotos4u2 on May 6, 2024 17:23:05 GMT
They said during the episode multiple times that they weren't supposed to lose their crew and I've seen online that they are allowed to continue on if they don't feel it's safe to wait for their crew which wasn't the issue here so it makes sense that the race should give them a penalty for losing their crew and not even trying to wait for them. That said this article really makes Danny sound like an ass. link Also, neither of them acknowledges that they wouldn't have gotten this far without the help of Amber in the previous leg (that felt like cheating to me and reminded me of season 32 where the one team gave the answer to others in their alliance so they only had to perform the task once). |
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Post by workingclassdog on May 7, 2024 2:19:33 GMT
I haven’t participated too much on this thread as I have been behind. I figured there was a big discussion on this last episode though. I’m surprised there has been a lot of hate on Danny/mom team. I really liked them… Danny seems a little dramatic but I really love the mom. I was confused about the penalty thing and really was quite upset about it.
Mom seems very gracious about the whole thing.
I guess now I’m hoping for the two guys (can’t remember their names) that won this leg and all the others to win.
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Post by disneypal on May 10, 2024 18:39:08 GMT
Ugh - weather updates during the last 10 minutes of Amazing Race - I don't even know who went home. I suspect who it was but don't know for sure.
That Canyon (water/rock) challenge looked tough - I mean just getting to the location looked hard but then all that swimming and trying to get the details of all the rocks - whew!!
Ricky just slammed right though that baseball challenge. I thought Vinny was a little more patient this week, seems like he is trying to be a better team partner, at least he's trying.
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Post by melanell on May 11, 2024 15:23:32 GMT
I agree that the road block with the symbols on the rocks looks really difficult. As said above, just getting to it looks like it really wore several people down. I was a bit confused as to how Melissa fell so far behind when she was working with a few different people during that task, all of whom got it and left before her. That really seemed to spell the end for Melisa & Yvonne since there were no trued detours and no self-driving this leg. They just kept being a little behind everyone else, and they'd always wind up back together with them never able to find a spot where they could shine and push ahead. So I felt bad for them. (And I felt bummed out that it wasn't Amber & Vincent who left.) I was super impressed with Ricky & Cesar this leg, at the roadblocks (including getting to the first one), and the "detour". They just went after each task and got. it. done. I also found Rod very endearing this leg. He always has a bit of light-hearted bragging going on, but when something just throws him for a loop, like his baseball skills not holding up as he expected, he didn't have a fit about it, he just joked his way through that as well. I'm hoping that it will be Ricky & Cesar, Juan & ? (his name has escaped me), & Rod & Leticia who wind up being the final 3 as the last episode progresses. I'd love to have a part of the show where I at least know some team I like will win.  |
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Post by mich5481 on May 11, 2024 15:35:46 GMT
I hope Juan and Shane win. Rod & Leticia are my second favorite team.
Ricky & Cesar just irritate me for some reason. I don't know that Amber & Vinny are capable of winning, to be honest. I know I posted that Reddit said they are engaged now, but I'm really hoping that watching this season has opened their eyes that they may not be a good match. If it hasn't, I'm hoping they are in therapy (both individually and as a couple).
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Post by gina on May 11, 2024 16:51:01 GMT
From Vinny's Instagram. He re-shared this in his story. Apparently someone contacted his place of work to complain about how he should not be tending to patients.  And then also.... no such luck that Amber and Vinny's eyes were opened. They commented themselves in the slide on the right. She actually says this race made them stronger. GAG.  |
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Post by TXMary on May 11, 2024 17:22:21 GMT
I can hardly watch the way Vinny treats her. She's pretty annoying too but she doesn't deserve the horrible way that he talks to her and treats her. I hope they go next because it's so hard to watch them.
Other than them, I like all the teams that are left. The boyfriends are probably my favorites. They have ran a great race. I also like Juan and Shane and would be fine with them winning. Same for Rod and Leticia.
The only team left I would NOT want to win is Vinny and Amber.
I wasn't a fan of Danny and Angie but they handled that situation with such grace.
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Post by melanell on May 11, 2024 20:21:01 GMT
And then also.... no such luck that Amber and Vinny's eyes were opened. They commented themselves in the slide on the right. She actually says this race made them stronger. GAG. I would have hated to see how things were for them before the race, in that case. |
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on May 11, 2024 20:33:59 GMT
I can hardly watch the way Vinny treats her. She's pretty annoying too but she doesn't deserve the horrible way that he talks to her and treats her. I hope they go next because it's so hard to watch them. Other than them, I like all the teams that are left. The boyfriends are probably my favorites. They have ran a great race. I also like Juan and Shane and would be fine with them winning. Same for Rod and Leticia. The only team left I would NOT want to win is Vinny and Amber. I wasn't a fan of Danny and Angie but they handled that situation with such grace. every time Vinny says she needs to watch her attitude I want to punch him. |
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Post by melanell on May 14, 2024 0:32:15 GMT
I can hardly watch the way Vinny treats her. She's pretty annoying too but she doesn't deserve the horrible way that he talks to her and treats her. I hope they go next because it's so hard to watch them. Other than them, I like all the teams that are left. The boyfriends are probably my favorites. They have ran a great race. I also like Juan and Shane and would be fine with them winning. Same for Rod and Leticia. The only team left I would NOT want to win is Vinny and Amber. I wasn't a fan of Danny and Angie but they handled that situation with such grace. every time Vinny says she needs to watch her attitude I want to punch him. Or crap about what she's "doing to their team". What about what you're doing to the team, Vinny? |
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