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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 29, 2024 23:05:49 GMT
Philadelphia Inquirer The Philadelphia Inquirer appears to have trolled the New York Times Saturday with the publication of an editorial encouraging Donald Trump to leave the presidential race for the good of the country. Raw Story's editorial board published a piece encouraging President Joe Biden to leave the race after his disappointing CNN debate performance against Trump, and the New York Times later followed suit with its own call for Biden to drop out. The Times received extensive pushback for publishing that piece, when it didn't publish a similar one calling for Trump to drop out after he was convicted of felonies. Now, the Inquirer, founded in 1829, has done just that. The piece, called, "To serve his country, Donald Trump should leave the race," mirrors the language of the Times' Biden article. "Biden had a horrible night Thursday. But the debate about the debate is misplaced. The only person who should withdraw from the race is Trump," the Inquirer argued on Saturday. www.rawstory.com/philadelphia-inquirer-2668646603/
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 29, 2024 23:15:18 GMT
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 29, 2024 23:56:46 GMT
Honestly, he just isn’t capable to lead. I hope the powers that be are able to find a solution. I can’t in good conscience vote for him just because I want to see a Democrat in the office. I’m thinking I’ll just not vote. I know that I am coming in let to this thread, but I have to comment on this. Your post is the saddest and most frustrating thing I've read here for a while. Voting for Biden is about so much more than whether you think he is fit to lead or not. It's about keeping that monstrous menace trump out of office. I implore you to look at the big picture and rethink this. I am horrified that in a country with a population of over 330 million people, these two are the 'best' you've got. But it is what it is, and now you have to suck it up and vote for one of them. At this point I think it's not far off the truth to say that by not voting, you're pretty much handing trump another vote.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 30, 2024 0:26:01 GMT
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MDscrapaholic
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Jun 30, 2024 0:39:38 GMT
Doesn't anyone think Trump will get jail time when he's sentenced next month?
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Post by ntsf on Jun 30, 2024 0:49:03 GMT
I'm hoping they will throw the book at him and put him in jail. even just to shut him up
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samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Jun 30, 2024 0:50:25 GMT
Doesn't matter if he goes to jail. He can still run in an election.
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Post by smasonnc on Jun 30, 2024 1:10:02 GMT
Of course we don’t. So if you have friends thinking that way, you need to tell them to wise up. As for Biden’s debate performance, I guess I’m glad you never saw me trying to teach through a cold, no voice, hopped up on DayQuil and just trying not to fall over, short on sleep to begin with. I wasn’t incapacitated. I was just sick. If this were just some friends spouting off, I wouldn't pay attention but this is data from reputable polling sources. With all due respect, trying to teach hopped up on DayQuil isn't the same at all. You're not 81 years old and the holder of the nuclear codes. I feel like the party is flying the plane into the mountain.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 30, 2024 4:34:44 GMT
Of course we don’t. So if you have friends thinking that way, you need to tell them to wise up. As for Biden’s debate performance, I guess I’m glad you never saw me trying to teach through a cold, no voice, hopped up on DayQuil and just trying not to fall over, short on sleep to begin with. I wasn’t incapacitated. I was just sick. If this were just some friends spouting off, I wouldn't pay attention but this is data from reputable polling sources. With all due respect, trying to teach hopped up on DayQuil isn't the same at all. You're not 81 years old and the holder of the nuclear codes. I feel like the party is flying the plane into the mountain. The thing is, he’s not ruling the country alone in a vacuum like Trump would love to do. Did you see the video link upthread where someone noted the vast diversity in Biden’s administration? Lots of people of varying ages, genders, ethnicities, the most diversity of any administration in recent memory. Those people are gaining experience in these roles and are going to be the future of the Democratic Party if we can manage to get past this current election.
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 30, 2024 4:41:29 GMT
I like her perspective hysteria & get out of the raceJen "get knocked down, get back up " Rubin. @jrubinblogger gobsmacked by the hysteria of the get out of the race crowd? Let me explain. 1. refusing to leap to an impossible non-solution does NOT mean you think the debate went well. It was really bad. 2. white males tend to publically freak out when things dont go just so. Women cope. Nonwhites don't have the luxury of melting down. 3. a serious contingent of pundits and pollsters insisted Biden shouldn't run and are now playing the I told you so game. They want him out or to lose so they can be right. 4. many of #3 predicted the red wave and have been scrambling to save face. 5. many policy wonks brilliant on econ or foreign policy have no fucking idea how politics works. the idea of dumping Biden and bypassing Harris is political suicide.
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 30, 2024 4:46:22 GMT
More on Democrats' panic over the debate Republicans have no principles, Democrats have no spineChristopher Webb @cwebbonline Co-signed‼️
“Republicans have no principles, Democrats have no spine. Republicans are sticking with a blatant liar who lied for every one minute and 20 seconds of that debate…and now the first sign of adversary, the spineless Democrats want to throw their own incumbent President under the bus, my goodness.” @allanlichtman
📌 Historian Allan Lichtman, who has successfully predicted past presidential election winners based on key characteristics, says that it would be a mistake for Democrats to replace President Joe Biden.
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Post by gar on Jun 30, 2024 9:22:26 GMT
Honestly, he just isn’t capable to lead. I hope the powers that be are able to find a solution. I can’t in good conscience vote for him just because I want to see a Democrat in the office. I’m thinking I’ll just not vote. I know that I am coming in let to this thread, but I have to comment on this. Your post is the saddest and most frustrating thing I've read here for a while. Voting for Biden is about so much more than whether you think he is fit to lead or not. It's about keeping that monstrous menace trump out of office. I implore you to look at the big picture and rethink this. I am horrified that in a country with a population of over 330 million people, these two are the 'best' you've got. But it is what it is, and now you have to suck it up and vote for one of them. At this point I think it's not far off the truth to say that by not voting, you're pretty much handing trump another vote. Hear hear. Look beyond the man and look at the party - and the future of your country and even the affect trump potentially has on the world when it comes to Putin etc.
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Post by gillyp on Jun 30, 2024 10:12:02 GMT
I know that I am coming in let to this thread, but I have to comment on this. Your post is the saddest and most frustrating thing I've read here for a while. Voting for Biden is about so much more than whether you think he is fit to lead or not. It's about keeping that monstrous menace trump out of office. I implore you to look at the big picture and rethink this. I am horrified that in a country with a population of over 330 million people, these two are the 'best' you've got. But it is what it is, and now you have to suck it up and vote for one of them. At this point I think it's not far off the truth to say that by not voting, you're pretty much handing trump another vote. Hear hear. Look beyond the man and look at the party - and the future of your country and even the affect trump potentially has on the world when it comes to Putin etc. Jumping on the band wagon - Absolutely this. In a local election for local government I would tend to vote for the person but in a big election (general here, presidential with you) I would be voting for the party all the time, not the leader who can/could be replaced during a term of office. In our case as well, not the local candidates in a general election but the party I want to get in. Voting is the biggest chance most of us have of making a difference. Every single vote counts.
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Post by imkat on Jun 30, 2024 12:30:32 GMT
Joe Biden did terrible in the debate. But there is a big difference between performing in a debate and running the country.
I can think of no other situation in which someone is allowed to spew lie after lie at the president. I can think of no situations in which the president makes decisions in complete isolation in 60 seconds. There is plenty of time and plenty of advisors to assist all presidents in making decisions.
One of his surrogates said, you saw a good man who had a bad night, and a bad man who had a terrible night. Which one will you choose?
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Post by Merge on Jun 30, 2024 16:14:47 GMT
Of course we don’t. So if you have friends thinking that way, you need to tell them to wise up. As for Biden’s debate performance, I guess I’m glad you never saw me trying to teach through a cold, no voice, hopped up on DayQuil and just trying not to fall over, short on sleep to begin with. I wasn’t incapacitated. I was just sick. If this were just some friends spouting off, I wouldn't pay attention but this is data from reputable polling sources. With all due respect, trying to teach hopped up on DayQuil isn't the same at all. You're not 81 years old and the holder of the nuclear codes. I feel like the party is flying the plane into the mountain. But if Biden can’t finish his term, we get someone who shares the same priorities. If Trump is elected, democracy is pretty much done. This seems like a no-brainer to me. We’re electing a platform and a party, not a savior. As for it not being the same when I’m teaching sick and Biden is debating while sick - it is. Sick is sick, not incapacitated as you claimed. He bounced back the next day.
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 30, 2024 17:29:52 GMT
This kid has a point. www.instagram.com/reel/C80kQNTxtnx/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==From the CNN fact-checker the convicted felon made 30 false claims in 90 minutes. Yet people, mostly the wimpy Democrats, got hung up on the fact he had a bad night because of a cold while ignoring what the man has accomplished these past 3+ years. x.com/ddale8/status/1806528549106442312?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nwSome idiot Republican Congressman was on the Sunday morning talk show and when the host pointed out trump always lying his response was he does it all the time, that’s no big deal. Here’s his quote.. Aaron Rupar.. ”Burgum dismisses Trump's incessant lying: "Everything that he said on Thursday night he's been saying before. So this is not news." And while I’m stamping my feet in frustration toward my fellow wimpy Democrats. To the pea who claims the President hasn’t gone “toe-to-toe” with Putin, apparently you haven’t been paying attention.
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 30, 2024 17:56:09 GMT
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Post by Gem Girl on Jun 30, 2024 23:20:23 GMT
”Burgum dismisses Trump's incessant lying: "Everything that he said on Thursday night he's been saying before. So this is not news." Why would I vote for a man for President who behaves in a way that I would not tolerate from a child? That he would normalize it doesn't speak well of his morals, either.
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Post by jayfab on Jul 1, 2024 0:16:35 GMT
Of course we don’t. So if you have friends thinking that way, you need to tell them to wise up. As for Biden’s debate performance, I guess I’m glad you never saw me trying to teach through a cold, no voice, hopped up on DayQuil and just trying not to fall over, short on sleep to begin with. I wasn’t incapacitated. I was just sick. If this were just some friends spouting off, I wouldn't pay attention but this is data from reputable polling sources. With all due respect, trying to teach hopped up on DayQuil isn't the same at all. You're not 81 years old and the holder of the nuclear codes. I feel like the party is flying the plane into the mountain. I think they should have postponed the debate. I know it would have been another headline blah blah blah, but I think the result would have been better than what happened. I really question why his campaign thought it would be a good idea to debate when he's sick and not tip top. My reasoning is based on my personal experience with sickness, even colds. I would have been way worse than Pres Biden. When I am sick I just cannot think well and I'm only 66. Now granted the debate is so much more important and not the same as someones job. And if I took any otc meds I would be in bed. I just cannot function when sick no matter how important the event.
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Post by jayfab on Jul 1, 2024 0:20:17 GMT
If this were just some friends spouting off, I wouldn't pay attention but this is data from reputable polling sources. With all due respect, trying to teach hopped up on DayQuil isn't the same at all. You're not 81 years old and the holder of the nuclear codes. I feel like the party is flying the plane into the mountain. The thing is, he’s not ruling the country alone in a vacuum like Trump would love to do. Did you see the video link upthread where someone noted the vast diversity in Biden’s administration? Lots of people of varying ages, genders, ethnicities, the most diversity of any administration in recent memory. Those people are gaining experience in these roles and are going to be the future of the Democratic Party if we can manage to get past this current election. Yes!!!
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