LeaP
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Post by LeaP on May 22, 2015 22:03:31 GMT
I'm wondering if the executives and corporate lawyers failed to do due diligence on the Duggar family when they signed them up to do the show. If they did know and went ahead anyway...yuck! Does it matter if TLC is cynical or incompetent? A lot of the shows on TLC are more than a little shady. The whole channel reminds me of a modern sideshow to a circus. And, yes, I am guilty of watching more than a one so I must hang my head in shame. <- shame emoji.
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Post by papersilly on May 22, 2015 22:08:03 GMT
i believe someone knew but they probably thought they will just deal with the fall out IF or WHEN it ever came up. it didn't come up all those years so they did nothing. it came up big time these past few days so they took the show off the air. TLC rode the wave of money and publicity as far as they could and then they jumped ship. Duggars rode the wave too. but I believe someone or some people definitely knew about it but they were not about to sink their own ship.
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Post by alittleintrepid on May 22, 2015 22:09:45 GMT
Are the producers meant to have known this stuff? Honestly, I don't know how it works but I would assume that the criminal record of a minor is not easy to access.
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Post by alittleintrepid on May 22, 2015 22:10:59 GMT
papersilly , what makes you think that someone at TLC knew?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 22:12:04 GMT
I would hope Oprahs producers shared the info. Although if they knew and still aired the show that's just wrong. Who knows.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 22:17:44 GMT
I would hope Oprahs producers shared the info. Although if they knew and still aired the show that's just wrong. Who knows. Scrappower, can you expand on this. What happened with the Oprah show? Do we have details, have they released a statement then or now? I'm curious as to what went down.
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Post by myshelly on May 22, 2015 22:27:10 GMT
I just don't believe there is any logical way that the Oprah staff would come across the information in doing research for just one episode and TLC didn't come across it when vetting the family for a whole series.
There's just no way.
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Post by greenlegume on May 22, 2015 22:28:41 GMT
I just don't believe there is any logical way that the Oprah staff would come across the information in doing research for just one episode and TLC didn't come across it when vetting the family for a whole series. There's just no way.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 22:31:38 GMT
I would hope Oprahs producers shared the info. Although if they knew and still aired the show that's just wrong. Who knows. Scrappower, can you expand on this. What happened with the Oprah show? Do we have details, have they released a statement then or now? I'm curious as to what went down. It was all in the first article and police report. I'll expand more in a bit. Dinner time.
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Post by papersilly on May 22, 2015 23:18:15 GMT
papersilly , what makes you think that someone at TLC knew? If the Oprah show was tipped off before their 2006 interview ( which is why the interview was cancelled), I wouldn't be surprised if the rumors or allegations didn't find their way to TLC in the 7 years that the Duggar show has been on. While TLC may not have had the police report in their hand or had some other concrete evidence, I find it hard to believe that absolutely no one associated with the show didn't have a clue about his history. It must have been known enough that even before their show hit the air in 2008, someone tipped off the Ophrah Show and they found it credible enough to cancel the interview. You don't think someone else might have tipped off TLC in the past 7 years? They finally did something because this time, it wasn't a rumor or tip. It was actual reports and admissions by the family.
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Post by LiLi on May 22, 2015 23:33:37 GMT
It's strange, I remember a story about a cameraman seeing something inappropriate and it was explained away. But, I can't find any info about it. Does anyone else recall anything like that? Was it a different show maybe?
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Post by alittleintrepid on May 22, 2015 23:42:28 GMT
papersilly , what makes you think that someone at TLC knew? If the Oprah show was tipped off before their 2006 interview ( which is why the interview was cancelled), I wouldn't be surprised if the rumors or allegations didn't find their way to TLC in the 7 years that the Duggar show has been on. While TLC may not have had the police report in their hand or had some other concrete evidence, I find it hard to believe that absolutely no one associated with the show didn't have a clue about his history. It must have been known enough that even before their show hit the air in 2008, someone tipped off the Ophrah Show and they found it credible enough to cancel the interview. You don't think someone else might have tipped off TLC in the past 7 years? They finally did something because this time, it wasn't a rumor or tip. It was actual reports and admissions by the family. . I didn't get that the Oprah show cancelled their interview because of these allegations. I'll guess that the Oprah producers probably couldn't make a report to CPS for investigation because they didn't have first-hand knowledge. I'm not sure if anyone within their inner circle would have tipped off TLC because they have the same messed up mindset.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 23:45:00 GMT
It's strange, I remember a story about a cameraman seeing something inappropriate and it was explained away. But, I can't find any info about it. Does anyone else recall anything like that? Was it a different show maybe? I remember that but never heard what the inappropriate was...
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Post by papersilly on May 22, 2015 23:49:12 GMT
If the Oprah show was tipped off before their 2006 interview ( which is why the interview was cancelled), I wouldn't be surprised if the rumors or allegations didn't find their way to TLC in the 7 years that the Duggar show has been on. While TLC may not have had the police report in their hand or had some other concrete evidence, I find it hard to believe that absolutely no one associated with the show didn't have a clue about his history. It must have been known enough that even before their show hit the air in 2008, someone tipped off the Ophrah Show and they found it credible enough to cancel the interview. You don't think someone else might have tipped off TLC in the past 7 years? They finally did something because this time, it wasn't a rumor or tip. It was actual reports and admissions by the family. . I didn't get that the Oprah show cancelled their interview because of these allegations. I'll guess that the Oprah producers probably couldn't make a report to CPS for investigation because they didn't have first-hand knowledge. I'm not sure if anyone within their inner circle would have tipped off TLC because they have the same messed up mindset. Here is what TMZ says happened with the Oprah show . The show did report it. www.tmz.com/2015/05/22/oprah-cancels-josh-duggar-molestation-chicago-taping-19-kids-and-counting/
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Post by bc2ca on May 23, 2015 0:10:51 GMT
Are the producers meant to have known this stuff? Honestly, I don't know how it works but I would assume that the criminal record of a minor is not easy to access. There is no criminal record, just a police/CPS report of their investigation. I believe the only reason Josh wasn't charged is the statute of limitations had run out.
If the crimes had been reported when they happened, I'd assume the case would have gone through the Juvenile Court System and the files remained confidential.
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Post by alittleintrepid on May 23, 2015 0:21:13 GMT
Are the producers meant to have known this stuff? Honestly, I don't know how it works but I would assume that the criminal record of a minor is not easy to access. There is no criminal record, just a police/CPS report of their investigation. I believe the only reason Josh wasn't charged is the statute of limitations had run out.
If the crimes had been reported when they happened, I'd assume the case would have gone through the Juvenile Court System and the files remained confidential.You're right.... I'm assuming that the report into the police investigation would be harder to access for a minor than for an adult? That's how it is where I live.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 0:22:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 0:50:53 GMT
I think they take calculated risks with everyone they shine the spotlight of so-called "reality" tv upon. Fame is a double-edged sword.
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Post by hop2 on May 23, 2015 2:38:15 GMT
I've never seen pretty much any of those shows I stopped watching TLC when they no longer had 'learning' as their goal for TV but switched to oddity voyeurism. I've seen maybe 3 episodes of Jon and Kate plus 8. None of the others. The sum total of what I know about the duggers or honeyboboo is from the peas or the media. So with that disclaimer, it seems like TLC's modus operandi has become capitalizing upon people. So I wouldn't be surprised if they knew and didn't care. Don't get me wrong, most of the people seem to capitalize from TLC as well so they seem to create these odd symbiotic relationships that can be painful to watch. ( well J & K + 8 was painful to watch. ) it just seems like the children have little choice or control and the adults, who are all making money off it, turn a blind eye to the discomfort of the children. Several of the kids on that show seemed uncomfortable with it all. And of course when the children actually need the money it's always all gone. So I nevervtuned into the Duggars Becuase that's just more children to watch be uncomfortable. That's pretty much why I've never watched any of the other shows I figured it'd be the same shit. So in essence I don't think TLC cared, would care, as long as the cash rolled in they'd film it and air it.
I also won't be surprised if they bring the show back.
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Post by MaryMary on May 23, 2015 4:31:45 GMT
There were rumors about this YEARS ago. TLC had to have at least been aware of them. Wouldn't they investigate to see if there was any merit to them? I would hope so, but... TLC.
Honestly, I am surprised that the Duggars would even open themselves up to public scrutiny knowing they had these skeletons in the closet. What's that all about?
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Post by jumperhop on May 23, 2015 4:43:22 GMT
Not related but, My ten year old ds came up to me in an outrage the other day. Mom TLC is fake all their shows are scripted and Dance Moms isn't real!!! I had a good silent laugh and told him I already knew that. First we don't watch tv anymore, second Dance Moms is on lifetime and third I didn't know he was a fan. jen
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 4:48:22 GMT
It will be interesting to see if Oprah has any comments since this has been officially exposed. She was molested as a child and has been a proponent about speaking out. I don't see what more she could have done at the time because records were kept private.
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Post by theshyone on May 23, 2015 8:54:16 GMT
A show like Oprah having an interview with the Dugars, huge publicity for TLC. Suddenly cancelled, TLC would be demanding to know why. They knew.
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Post by momto4kiddos on May 23, 2015 13:39:54 GMT
There were rumors about this YEARS ago. TLC had to have at least been aware of them. Wouldn't they investigate to see if there was any merit to them? I would hope so, but... TLC. Honestly, I am surprised that the Duggars would even open themselves up to public scrutiny knowing they had these skeletons in the closet. What's that all about? Had the same thought, why would the Duggars open themselves up to having something like this come out and of course if you have secrets they eventually come out! I'd guess the money, but even for all the money in the world I can't imagine it.
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Post by Karmady on May 23, 2015 13:52:01 GMT
I ditched TLC from my cable package a few years ago. My preteen son was starting to get way too fascinated with some of those shows, so the station magically disappeared. No loss whatsoever.
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Post by BuckeyeSandy on May 23, 2015 14:39:23 GMT
I am not looking at this as "celebrity gossip" which seems mostly harmless. I am viewing this in the light from a fairly recent incident that occurred to the family of another person here. That situation was mostly 'groundless' but raised the double standard that exists today between teen girls and teen boys. I knew there was one for adults, I did not know how vicious is the one for children and teens.
This incident with the younger Mr. Dugger happened when he was 14, fourteen, that's 10 plus 4. I think lots of us have kids that did some really stupid, but at the time either felt good or seemed like a good idea, or "just happened." Frankly any parent of a boy could really say there but for... I believe from the articles and such the girls were not much older or younger too. So, who is really at fault and aren't the girls just as guilty?
So at what age does it stop? Or start? What is fair game for those that are set to not be satisfied with tarnishing or trashing, but outright destroy any possible adult livelihood and relationships.
I think someone "broke the seal" on a juvenile record, and that person ought to be criminally charged. Those that are "breathless" over what could come out next disgust me. I pray that NO ONE you know is ever treated in a similar manner.
And I pray for anyone that has boys, this could very, very easily happen to your precious child too. What happened to another really has opened my eyes to the intolorrence.
Note: I do not condone what happened, seems all the parties involved had long ago settled the matter. There was punishment and discipline at the time, so why "pop up" now nearly what, 15 years later???
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 14:45:38 GMT
There were rumors about this YEARS ago. TLC had to have at least been aware of them. Wouldn't they investigate to see if there was any merit to them? I would hope so, but... TLC. Honestly, I am surprised that the Duggars would even open themselves up to public scrutiny knowing they had these skeletons in the closet. What's that all about? $$$$ and fame-whoring (or as I'm sure they'd call it, "glorifying god")
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 14:49:57 GMT
I am not looking at this as "celebrity gossip" which seems mostly harmless. I am viewing this in the light from a fairly recent incident that occurred to the family of another person here. That situation was mostly 'groundless' but raised the double standard that exists today between teen girls and teen boys. I knew there was one for adults, I did not know how vicious is the one for children and teens. This incident with the younger Mr. Dugger happened when he was 14, fourteen, that's 10 plus 4. I think lots of us have kids that did some really stupid, but at the time either felt good or seemed like a good idea, or "just happened." Frankly any parent of a boy could really say there but for... I believe from the articles and such the girls were not much older or younger too. So, who is really at fault and aren't the girls just as guilty? So at what age does it stop? Or start? What is fair game for those that are set to not be satisfied with tarnishing or trashing, but outright destroy any possible adult livelihood and relationships. I think someone "broke the seal" on a juvenile record, and that person ought to be criminally charged. Those that are "breathless" over what could come out next disgust me. I pray that NO ONE you know is ever treated in a similar manner. And I pray for anyone that has boys, this could very, very easily happen to your precious child too. What happened to another really has opened my eyes to the intolorrence. Note: I do not condone what happened, seems all the parties involved had long ago settled the matter. There was punishment and discipline at the time, so why "pop up" now nearly what, 15 years later??? You are unbelievable. Sick, sick, sick
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Post by smginaz Suzy on May 23, 2015 14:57:03 GMT
Oh, yeah, the five year old and the other girls clearly were temptresses that should be blamed for their reckless behavior. Especially since they are raised in a household that requires them to serve their men and never question those men.
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