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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 19:15:00 GMT
I did nothing of the sort and you know it. I'm sorry. I meant to say, you linked a professor who likes to use the apartheid word, then posted a long explanation/defense of his opinions. When I-95 refuted his points one by one, you said more information was needed. You also redefined the word apartheid back to its original Afrikaans definition, rather than using the commonly-accepted-in-today's-world meaning, which in my book is an attempt to make the word more palatable. Note: "experts" who use the words apartheid or genocide are not ever neutral sources. It felt to me (and I sincerely apologize if I am wrong) that you were trying to say apartheid without having to come right out and say apartheid. If the source is not hers, more information is ALWAYS needed. She is not willing to accept anything that she didn't herself dig up on her computer.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 6, 2014 19:16:23 GMT
Dotty: This is from several pages back - it's where you moved from "asking a few questions". It's been a few days, if you can honestly reread your comments, and not see why people are saying you're anti-Israel, you've lost perspective. There's no question that several posters were extremely rude to you. It wasn't I-95 that claimed you were sucking on the teat of Hamas (an obviously inflammatory, offensive statement) - but your response of people blindly swallowing Israeli propoganda, and valuing life with disdain, is not any better.
How dare you suggest such a thing.
I'm not hell bent of vilifying Israel either. If I wanted to really do that I have plenty of links that I could post on here to do that if I really wanted to.
But the rest of the world are not idiots. You might be fed Israeli propaganda and swallow it without a second thought but some of us are not prepared to do that. Some of us care about the killing of innocent civilians while two damn stubborn leaders carry on as if it didn't matter. No one is prepared to stand up and be counted because they will be labelled anti-semitic or that we're supporting terrorist. It has nothing to do with the Jewish people it's the country of Israel and its far right leader that thinks he can carry on and not answer to anyone. Well it has to stop! The innocent civilians caught up in his little power trip have equally as much right to live as you or I. Have you not asked yourself why is that America is the only country that is not questioning the Israelis on their action in Gaza, The rest of us can't ALL be wrong. Think of it and come out from your bubble of thinking that Israel can do no wrong. They have too much of a history on the wrong doings since 1947 to hide under that cloak of innocence. Protecting their border,which incidentally they've never declared to anyone but themselves,and conveniently grows every time there's a conflict is one thing but to do it in such a disproportionate manner is something else.
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You and others on this thread as well as the other thread have vilified EVERYTHING that has been posted on here that draws attention to the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, no matter what the source was. You should be ashamed of yourself that you value any human life with such blatant disdain.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 20:42:56 GMT
Oops silly me I thought I was answering a request from Beckytech.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 21:05:10 GMT
Dotty: This is from several pages back - it's where you moved from "asking a few questions". It's been a few days, if you can honestly reread your comments, and not see why people are saying you're anti-Israel, you've lost perspective. There's no question that several posters were extremely rude to you. It wasn't I-95 that claimed you were sucking on the teat of Hamas (an obviously inflammatory, offensive statement) - but your response of people blindly swallowing Israeli propoganda, and valuing life with disdain, is not any better. How dare you suggest such a thing. I'm not hell bent of vilifying Israel either. If I wanted to really do that I have plenty of links that I could post on here to do that if I really wanted to. But the rest of the world are not idiots. You might be fed Israeli propaganda and swallow it without a second thought but some of us are not prepared to do that. Some of us care about the killing of innocent civilians while two damn stubborn leaders carry on as if it didn't matter. No one is prepared to stand up and be counted because they will be labelled anti-semitic or that we're supporting terrorist. It has nothing to do with the Jewish people it's the country of Israel and its far right leader that thinks he can carry on and not answer to anyone. Well it has to stop! The innocent civilians caught up in his little power trip have equally as much right to live as you or I. Have you not asked yourself why is that America is the only country that is not questioning the Israelis on their action in Gaza, The rest of us can't ALL be wrong. Think of it and come out from your bubble of thinking that Israel can do no wrong. They have too much of a history on the wrong doings since 1947 to hide under that cloak of innocence. Protecting their border,which incidentally they've never declared to anyone but themselves,and conveniently grows every time there's a conflict is one thing but to do it in such a disproportionate manner is something else. .... You and others on this thread as well as the other thread have vilified EVERYTHING that has been posted on here that draws attention to the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, no matter what the source was. You should be ashamed of yourself that you value any human life with such blatant disdain. Darcy if you're going to include a quote could you please use the entire post rather than take a portion of it and get it out of context. That was specifically in reply to a particular post from GAJenny. You will notice the distinction of the YOU and others at the beginning of the last paragraph. The YOU in the second sentence is in reference to GAGenny herself otherwise I would have added others. This is the part you've missed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 21:57:27 GMT
What difference does that make? I hate when people pull that crap. Does that negate someone's opinion because they haven't been here long enough for you, Skybar or Skypea? I do believe she's asking to find out if she's been here long enough to know about I-95 posting about living in Israel. Not to find out if her opinion matters. The part of her post that you cut out of the quote shows her intent. "95's been around forever. longer than I have. that she is in Israel is not a surprise, it's nothing new, isn't like she hasn't posted that in many, many past threads. in past yrs. is jamieson a rather new pea?"
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 6, 2014 21:59:03 GMT
I clearly put dots indicating the redacted text- the quote was already too long. And you'll also note I began my comment, with the reference to sucking at the teat of Hamas. I clearly stated people had been rude to you, and again it doesn't justify your comments. You did not respond with outrage over rude and outrageous comments and personal attacks. You attacked Israel - and the people who don't agree with your assessment of the situation in Gaza.
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Post by Skypea on Aug 6, 2014 22:35:38 GMT
What difference does that make? I hate when people pull that crap. Does that negate someone's opinion because they haven't been here long enough for you, Skybar or Skypea? I do believe she's asking to find out if she's been here long enough to know about I-95 posting about living in Israel. Not to find out if her opinion matters. The part of her post that you cut out of the quote shows her intent. "95's been around forever. longer than I have. that she is in Israel is not a surprise, it's nothing new, isn't like she hasn't posted that in many, many past threads. in past yrs. is jamieson a rather new pea?" thank you Gia! you are correct and Liz (as usual) is not. She just loves to attack and she loves me. Then she gets confused and combines those 2.
In the instance of Liz's post I definitely think she left out that part of my post on purpose.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 8, 2014 9:55:10 GMT
I stumbled on this while looking for news about Iraq. Link
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 12:52:14 GMT
I stumbled on this while looking for news about Iraq. LinkThat's some pretty scary stuff right there.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 8, 2014 14:44:35 GMT
Indeed. Very scary. I had read that Germany is cracking down on extremists, but it sounds like France has it's hands full.
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Post by *KatyCupcake* on Aug 8, 2014 17:05:57 GMT
The article covers so many countries with reports of increased anti-semitism and threats. It's not simply about Israel. It's aimed at all Jews and it falls right in line with the misleading propaganda Hamas presents. The goal isn't simply to get rid of Israel but to eliminate the Jews of the world.
And with what is happening in Syria and Iraq, seems like Christianity is the next target. I've never in my lifetime witnessed this much violence against people for their faith. It is beyond disturbing. Equally disturbing is the silence from our leaders.
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Post by jennifercw on Aug 8, 2014 17:49:39 GMT
I've never in my lifetime witnessed this much violence against people for their faith. It is beyond disturbing. Equally disturbing is the silence from our leaders. It is indeed very disturbing. I'm not sure our leaders are being silent though... Didn't the president give a speech on TV last night? And I'm under the impression that we have launched airstrikes against ISIS and are dropping humanitarian aid to people displaced by ISIS.
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Post by *KatyCupcake* on Aug 8, 2014 21:13:58 GMT
Yes, yesterday. I'm discouraged at the length of time it took to respond to ISIS. But it's not just the Christians in Iraq that I'm concerned over. I just don't see firm leadership from the US internationally in regards to all these tragedies.
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Post by BeckyTech on Aug 8, 2014 22:24:20 GMT
I sat on this for over a day, but I just can't let this go. It bothers me too much. This wasn't addressed to me, but that's never stopped me from jumping in with my 2 cents worth before, so I would just like to make a couple of comments here. Ok lefty I must be extremely dim this morning but I'm going to list the links that I've posted on this thread. I genuinely would like to know which of these links do you not class as neutral and more importantly what is your definition of bias? llan Pappe an interview with a Jewish history Professor who lives and works at a British University and who happens to question his country's politics isn't in my opinion biased. UN report official UN report on the Convention on the Rights of the Child Amnesty international Report It's interesting that this link has somehow disappeared from my original post on 8/4 at 2.01pm where I quoted extracts AND the link. Here it is again. However, I will defend my belief that Amnesty is a neutral and unbiased organization. Twitter link When GAJenny links You Tube videos that are at least a couple of years old, if not more......videos that cannot be verified. Expects others to accept them as fact and when questioned about the validity of those videos one gets accused of sucking from the teat of Hamas then there's little wonder that one will upload an opposing link. Have you questioned GAJenny's video as being unbiased or neutral? Do tell me have I missed any of my links,which ones do you find biased,which ones do you not agree that are neutral? I'd be very interested to know! Here's the thing. When you link the interview with the Jewish professor and now call it unbiased ... well that just doesn't hold water. It is clearly his opinion -- facts are neutral, opinions are not. And as I already pointed out -- because he is pretending to base his opinion on facts, but leaving out some very important facts, it causes the argument for his opinion to crumble. Again, this would apply if the situation were reversed, and he was very pro-Israel but left out pertinent facts. Concerning the UN Report, it's just typical. It goes into great detail about Israel's actions, but glosses over those by Hamas. If there was a 21-page report about the harm the rockets cause Israeli children, how the kids in the rocket-zone have PTSD at about 50% and the other damage it causes them, I'd like to see it. I bet it doesn't exist because the fault always seems to fall on Israel. Look at some of the comments in that Amnesty document. It's also the same old thing. But this time a few member nations actually object: If you look further down, again it goes into great detail about Israel and even calls out the US for providing weapons, but where is the condemnation (other than a paragraph out of a very lengthy document) for Hamas and any mention at all of the countries providing weapons to them? Just because the UN, Amnesty International, and UNRWA are supposed to be neutral doesn't mean they are. And have you looked at who sits on the UN Human Rights Council that produced that report on children? Countries like China, Congo, and Cuba are hardly bastions of human rights and have no place sitting on such a council in the first place. Politics at its worst. It isn't that Israel should get a free pass or shouldn't be looked at - no person and no country is perfect. I just want to know where the equal treatment of Hamas and the Palestinian people are. Oh, and that Twitter link you posted? How about this one saying it was a fake -- posted by a group that thinks Israel is apartheid and not at all sympathetic to them. I didn't look at the other links very closely, I'm just tired of all these international, supposedly neutral, organizations dissecting Israel's actions without doing the same -- in equal detail -- to Hamas.
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Post by Skypea on Aug 9, 2014 3:00:10 GMT
yes they are silent... now the Kurds are asking for help and I've not heard that we are doing that. It seems our leaders will ignore them also - as ISIS kills them and destroys their homes, buildings etc
same as they did with Ukraine and other areas of Iraq...
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Aug 9, 2014 6:32:09 GMT
yes they are silent... now the Kurds are asking for help and I've not heard that we are doing that. It seems our leaders will ignore them also - as ISIS kills them and destroys their homes, buildings etc
same as they did with Ukraine and other areas of Iraq... We did the air strikes to help the Kurds and the Iraqi military is arming them.
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Post by leftturnonly on Aug 9, 2014 11:14:30 GMT
I sat on this for over a day, but I just can't let this go. It bothers me too much. This wasn't addressed to me, but that's never stopped me from jumping in with my 2 cents worth before, so I would just like to make a couple of comments here. Ok lefty I must be extremely dim this morning but I'm going to list the links that I've posted on this thread. I genuinely would like to know which of these links do you not class as neutral and more importantly what is your definition of bias? llan Pappe an interview with a Jewish history Professor who lives and works at a British University and who happens to question his country's politics isn't in my opinion biased. UN report official UN report on the Convention on the Rights of the Child Amnesty international Report It's interesting that this link has somehow disappeared from my original post on 8/4 at 2.01pm where I quoted extracts AND the link. Here it is again. However, I will defend my belief that Amnesty is a neutral and unbiased organization. Twitter link When GAJenny links You Tube videos that are at least a couple of years old, if not more......videos that cannot be verified. Expects others to accept them as fact and when questioned about the validity of those videos one gets accused of sucking from the teat of Hamas then there's little wonder that one will upload an opposing link. Have you questioned GAJenny's video as being unbiased or neutral? Do tell me have I missed any of my links,which ones do you find biased,which ones do you not agree that are neutral? I'd be very interested to know! Here's the thing. When you link the interview with the Jewish professor and now call it unbiased ... well that just doesn't hold water. It is clearly his opinion -- facts are neutral, opinions are not. And as I already pointed out -- because he is pretending to base his opinion on facts, but leaving out some very important facts, it causes the argument for his opinion to crumble. Again, this would apply if the situation were reversed, and he was very pro-Israel but left out pertinent facts. Concerning the UN Report, it's just typical. It goes into great detail about Israel's actions, but glosses over those by Hamas. If there was a 21-page report about the harm the rockets cause Israeli children, how the kids in the rocket-zone have PTSD at about 50% and the other damage it causes them, I'd like to see it. I bet it doesn't exist because the fault always seems to fall on Israel. Look at some of the comments in that Amnesty document. It's also the same old thing. But this time a few member nations actually object: If you look further down, again it goes into great detail about Israel and even calls out the US for providing weapons, but where is the condemnation (other than a paragraph out of a very lengthy document) for Hamas and any mention at all of the countries providing weapons to them? Just because the UN, Amnesty International, and UNRWA are supposed to be neutral doesn't mean they are. And have you looked at who sits on the UN Human Rights Council that produced that report on children? Countries like China, Congo, and Cuba are hardly bastions of human rights and have no place sitting on such a council in the first place. Politics at its worst. It isn't that Israel should get a free pass or shouldn't be looked at - no person and no country is perfect. I just want to know where the equal treatment of Hamas and the Palestinian people are. Oh, and that Twitter link you posted? How about this one saying it was a fake -- posted by a group that thinks Israel is apartheid and not at all sympathetic to them. I didn't look at the other links very closely, I'm just tired of all these international, supposedly neutral, organizations dissecting Israel's actions without doing the same -- in equal detail -- to Hamas. Thank you Becky. I've just now gotten to this point, but you said exactly what I was thinking when I made my comment.
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Post by BeckyTech on Aug 9, 2014 15:21:48 GMT
I did a little more checking and now I know why UNRWA isn't anywhere near neutral. According to Wiki: A report from the Foreign Policy Association:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 16:22:48 GMT
I would like to extend an apology to Dottyscrapper and Lynm. I still don't agree with your viewpoints and the way you've expressed yourselves on this thread, but my inflammatory comment about you in regards to the teats of Hamas was uncalled for and posted from a place of frustration and anger. I am sorry that I made such an inflammatory comment directed (especially) at the two of you.
I tell my children that they cannot allow the actions (or words) of someone else determine their reactions. They are responsible for their own behavior and doing what's right. Time for a review of that policy for myself.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 17:18:51 GMT
I would like to extend an apology to Dottyscrapper and Lynm. I still don't agree with your viewpoints and the way you've expressed yourselves on this thread, but my inflammatory comment about you in regards to the teats of Hamas was uncalled for and posted from a place of frustration and anger. I am sorry that I made such an inflammatory comment directed (especially) at the two of you.
I tell my children that they cannot allow the actions (or words) of someone else determine their reactions. They are responsible for their own behavior and doing what's right. Time for a review of that policy for myself.
Thank you.
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Post by leftturnonly on Aug 9, 2014 18:38:54 GMT
Dotty, I like you. I've enjoyed many discussions with you. The amount of information you are considering is admirable.
But, Dotty. When you apply words like genocide and apartheid and you source information that tells only part of the story, you are deceiving yourself if you think you are being neutral.
Imagine this scenerio. I am greedy and power-hungry. I've been taught to use hate as a way to control masses of people to do what I want, and as I sit in luxury, I want more.
Here is a group of people locked in to a small strip of land along the Mediterranean all ready to use for my advantage! You think I'm going to not use them for my own gain?
How can I use them?
1) I can continue to feed their hate for their neighbors.
2) I can make them believe they are dependent on me (and my select group) for their protection.
3) I can get other nations to fund and supply an unending supply of weapons.
4) I can smuggle these weapons in to these people that I am fueling with hate and making more desperate by the day.
5) I can get those poor people to protect those weapons more than they will protect their children! (I am amazing like that!) They don't even care that I'm taking their resources and building these tunnels right under their feet with entrances inside their homes! There is no limit on what I will spend to supply and protect these weapons. These innocents are fish in a barrel. Their videoed deaths are gold to me.
6) I can create elaborate misinformation propaganda campaigns, and I'm not above using a scene from a movie or photos of another war-stricken area. I'll stage my own productions and call them "News!" and the rest of the world will believe me. Even if they don't believe me, I can get them to show my false videos and photos over and over and over. If it bleeds, it leads, and I can make a lot of children bleed.
7) Now that I've primed this baby, I can light the match at the first opportunity. Three Israeli boys were kidnapped and killed .... and there was retaliation from Israel? WOO HOO! Oh Glorious Day! Pull out the "Death to Israel" posters and hand them out to our people around the globe. Get those rockets out and tell them to light them up!
8) It's a lot of work to be me. Those weapons don't just appear out of thin air, and convincing men that it's important to protect a bunch of rockets at the cost of their women and children makes me the most amazing power there ever was!
9) Death to Israel! Give us back our land!
10) Hello, room service? My champagne needs to be opened.
Totally impossible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 22:40:30 GMT
OK Lefty. I've spend the best part of the last 30 minutes reading every sentence that I have written on this thread.Perhaps you would spend some time in searching WHERE I have used that word and let me know.
I've already given an explanation, did you not read it? I'll repeat..... I have no bloody idea who this Professor is. All I know is that he's Jewish.
Everything that has been linked on here or the other thread that has had any trace of being British has been ridiculed as either anti Israel or pro Palestinian propaganda so linking a report made by a Jewish academic regarding the three teenagers that were murdered was done to counter the fact that anything else would suffer the same fate as any previous British reports. How wrong could one be! It's pretty obvious WHATEVER is linked that has any hint of any humanity towards the Palestinians is automatically ridiculed for one reason or another and labelled as being biased.The original link had nothing to do with the fact that apartheid was mentioned in the interview but that reason will fall on deaf ears like the rest of the explanations.
To answer Beckytech's question I asked a few questions of I-95 because I have no idea what life in Israel is like for Palestinians except from varying reports that I've read from a variety of websites. Are those reports true?......I have no idea,hence the questions......but no, I was then accused of having an underlying agenda.
I'm not deceiving myself in any shape or form. I know exactly what's happening! I'm quite capable of making my own mind up without any influence from one side or the other I can assure you and it's very condescending to suggest otherwise.
I've just about had enough, this is really going a step too far to be accused of another comment especially when it wasn't even made by me. I'm sick of it and sick of having everything I say twisted and taken entirely out of context.
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Post by I-95 on Aug 10, 2014 10:32:59 GMT
Oh, you poor wee thing. You think everyone is getting on your case because you ask a few innocent questions. Why would you think that? You say you're not anti-Israel, and you're just trying to get a few things straight, but then we all accuse you of having an underlying agenda, right? Well let me quote from one of your other posts The rest of us can't ALL be wrong.
Your neutrality might be believable if you occasionally sided with Israel, but that never happens, and when you feel put upon, you pull out the 'nobody understands me and you're all being mean to me' card. The difference between us is that most of us who are arguing with you admit to our pro-Israel stand, you claim to be neutral and then every argument you make, every link you link, screams the exact opposite, so again I'll quote you ' The rest of us can't ALL be wrong.
To use an oft quoted line from President Harry S. Truman 'If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen
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Post by scrappinghappy on Aug 10, 2014 13:25:25 GMT
For all of you saying in many different ways how densely populated Gaza is, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A SATELLITE IMAGE OF THE AREA???
Numbers here are meaningless. There are MANY, MANY, MANY areas in Gaza where there ARE NO CIVILIANS. Open areas, agricultural areas, etc. Does Hamas fire from those areas. The answer is NO! And the question is WHY NOT? When you can answer that question, then I will reconsider my views on Hamas. Until then, civilian deaths need to be blamed on the people who PUT THEM IN HARMS WAY INTENTIONALLY - their own leaders!
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Post by I-95 on Aug 10, 2014 13:51:15 GMT
For all of you saying in many different ways how densely populated Gaza is, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A SATELLITE IMAGE OF THE AREA??? Numbers here are meaningless. There are MANY, MANY, MANY areas in Gaza where there ARE NO CIVILIANS. Open areas, agricultural areas, etc. Does Hamas fire from those areas. The answer is NO! And the question is WHY NOT? When you can answer that question, then I will reconsider my views on Hamas. Until then, civilian deaths need to be blamed on the people who PUT THEM IN HARMS WAY INTENTIONALLY - their own leaders! Exactly! I have been asking folks to take a look at Gaza on Google Earth in both the threads about Israel, and since nobody ever said they did, I have to assume they have no interest in seeing what the land actually looks like. Knowing what it actually looks like might defeat the purpose of their need to blame Israel. One only has to look at Gaza from space to know exactly what Hamas is up to.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 14:02:03 GMT
For all of you saying in many different ways how densely populated Gaza is, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A SATELLITE IMAGE OF THE AREA??? Numbers here are meaningless. There are MANY, MANY, MANY areas in Gaza where there ARE NO CIVILIANS. Open areas, agricultural areas, etc. Does Hamas fire from those areas. The answer is NO! And the question is WHY NOT? When you can answer that question, then I will reconsider my views on Hamas. Until then, civilian deaths need to be blamed on the people who PUT THEM IN HARMS WAY INTENTIONALLY - their own leaders! Exactly! I have been asking folks to take a look at Gaza on Google Earth in both the threads about Israel, and since nobody ever said they did, I have to assume they have no interest in seeing what the land actually looks like. Knowing what it actually looks like might defeat the purpose of their need to blame Israel. One only has to look at Gaza from space to know exactly what Hamas is up to. I looked at Gaza on Google earth, I-95. But it's not really me you need to convince that there is plenty of land, AWAY from densely populated areas to fire weapons of hatred into Israel.
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Post by BarbaraUK on Aug 10, 2014 14:18:16 GMT
For all of you saying in many different ways how densely populated Gaza is, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A SATELLITE IMAGE OF THE AREA??? Numbers here are meaningless. The satellite image gives no indication of real size. Just want to put this topic into perspective otherwise looking at the satellite map is meaningless! It fits into less than a third of the size of London! And look at the population compared with NY City!
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Post by scrappinghappy on Aug 10, 2014 14:21:46 GMT
For all of you saying in many different ways how densely populated Gaza is, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A SATELLITE IMAGE OF THE AREA??? Numbers here are meaningless. The satellite image gives no indication of real size. Just want to put this topic into perspective otherwise looking at the satellite map is meaningless! It fits into less than a third of the size of London! And look at the population compared with NY City! The point is....There is lots of open land to use as a firing range. All they need is ONE field. Why do they fire from civilian areas? Please answer THAT question.
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Post by BarbaraUK on Aug 10, 2014 14:30:15 GMT
The satellite image gives no indication of real size. Just want to put this topic into perspective otherwise looking at the satellite map is meaningless! It fits into less than a third of the size of London! And look at the population compared with NY City! The point is....There is lots of open land to use as a firing range. All they need is ONE field. Why do they fire from civilian areas? Please answer THAT question. The point is solely this since you obviously haven't understood what I wrote - this was solely to balance the demand that people look at the satellite image in that the satellite image does not give a proper indication of size and population. There was no political statement in this post at all but you still jumped all over it wanting to prove me wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 14:33:34 GMT
Barbara...LOOK at google earth. Regardless of the size or population of the Gaza strip compared to London, you will SEE GREEN FIELDS...TAN FIELDS...PLENTY of places where rockets could be launched from. We know Hamas loves tunnels. They could bury their weapons in tunnels in these fields as well.
The issue of looking at GOogle earth isn't to compare sizes or populations of cities across the globe. It's to indicate just how much OPEN AREA there is that Hamas chooses to not use.
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