Rainbow
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Where salt is in the air and sand is at my feet...
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 19, 2016 17:16:41 GMT
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 19, 2016 17:19:19 GMT
Of ffs, we own guns. I believe that people should be able to buy guns, but it is shit like this that makes gun owners sound like idiots
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Post by miominmio on Jun 19, 2016 17:23:37 GMT
Of ffs, we own guns. I believe that people should be able to buy guns, but it is shit like this that makes gun owners sound like idiots
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 17:38:03 GMT
Do you just trawl the internet all day every day for this shit? You're like a broken record.
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Rainbow
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Where salt is in the air and sand is at my feet...
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 19, 2016 17:51:04 GMT
Of ffs, we own guns. I believe that people should be able to buy guns, but it is shit like this that makes gun owners sound like idiots Really? The truth bothers you? People need to be listening to what has happened here because if some had their way we would be in the same position.
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Nink
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Post by Nink on Jun 19, 2016 17:53:05 GMT
And a new day it is. Time for another Bunny gun thread. <rolls eyes>
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jayfab
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Post by jayfab on Jun 19, 2016 18:13:48 GMT
How do you sleep at night with all your paranoia?
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Rainbow
Pearl Clutcher
Where salt is in the air and sand is at my feet...
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Jun 26, 2014 5:57:41 GMT
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 19, 2016 18:17:10 GMT
Gun Myths Gone in Five Minutes: ABC News 20/20.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 19, 2016 20:17:17 GMT
Anyone else notice that the person she's taking and dispensing advice from is called "MrPsychoVids"?!!
Fitting and right up her alley.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 21:15:20 GMT
Of ffs, we own guns. I believe that people should be able to buy guns, but it is shit like this that makes gun owners sound like idiots Really? The truth bothers you? People need to be listening to what has happened here because if some had their way we would be in the same position.No the truth doesn't bother me one bit but I don't need to listen to lies to get to that truth thanks. The truth is out there if you want to research it and it is very far removed from what is said in that video.You choose to listen to some American making up a heavily edited video to try and muster support for her cause instead of getting to the real truth. What is it about the real truth Rainbow? why does it bother you so much ? Let me tell you why..... it would throw your argument and your opinions right out the water. The proof of what you are looking for by citing other countries gun laws to justify your paranoia just isn't there, so quit with your attempt at the justification.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 22:54:02 GMT
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 19, 2016 23:46:28 GMT
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Rainbow
Pearl Clutcher
Where salt is in the air and sand is at my feet...
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Jun 26, 2014 5:57:41 GMT
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 19, 2016 23:48:36 GMT
Really? The truth bothers you? People need to be listening to what has happened here because if some had their way we would be in the same position. No the truth doesn't bother me one bit but I don't need to listen to lies to get to that truth thanks. The truth is out there if you want to research it and it is very far removed from what is said in that video.You choose to listen to some American making up a heavily edited video to try and muster support for her cause instead of getting to the real truth. What is it about the real truth Rainbow? why does it bother you so much ? Let me tell you why..... it would throw your argument and your opinions right out the water. The proof of what you are looking for by citing other countries gun laws to justify your paranoia just isn't there, so quit with your attempt at the justification. Those people have been there, they have experienced gun control. Are you saying they are lying? What purpose would they have for lying about their experiences?
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Post by lucyg on Jun 19, 2016 23:52:51 GMT
No the truth doesn't bother me one bit but I don't need to listen to lies to get to that truth thanks. The truth is out there if you want to research it and it is very far removed from what is said in that video.You choose to listen to some American making up a heavily edited video to try and muster support for her cause instead of getting to the real truth. What is it about the real truth Rainbow ? why does it bother you so much ? Let me tell you why..... it would throw your argument and your opinions right out the water. The proof of what you are looking for by citing other countries gun laws to justify your paranoia just isn't there, so quit with your attempt at the justification. Those people have been there, they have experienced gun control. Are you saying they are lying? What purpose would they have for lying about their experiences?Rainbow, why don't you ask our Australian peas their opinions on the Australian gun laws? You ought to be able to get a straight answer from them, rather than the packaged plastic monstrosity that is that video.
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Post by elaine on Jun 19, 2016 23:56:15 GMT
Those people have been there, they have experienced gun control. Are you saying they are lying? What purpose would they have for lying about their experiences? Rainbow, why don't you ask our Australian peas their opinions on the Australian gun laws? You ought to be able to get a straight answer from them, rather than the packaged plastic monstrosity that is that video. Because that would take social skills.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 0:21:29 GMT
Those people have been there, they have experienced gun control. Are you saying they are lying? What purpose would they have for lying about their experiences? Rainbow, why don't you ask our Australian peas their opinions on the Australian gun laws? You ought to be able to get a straight answer from them, rather than the packaged plastic monstrosity that is that video. Because then she's have to face some truthful facts......couldn't have that now could we!
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 20, 2016 0:26:07 GMT
Those people have been there, they have experienced gun control. Are you saying they are lying? What purpose would they have for lying about their experiences? Rainbow, why don't you ask our Australian peas their opinions on the Australian gun laws? You ought to be able to get a straight answer from them, rather than the packaged plastic monstrosity that is that video. Because she is loving the attention. And she gets it. This is like Christmas to her.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 20, 2016 0:51:13 GMT
Rainbow, why don't you ask our Australian peas their opinions on the Australian gun laws? You ought to be able to get a straight answer from them, rather than the packaged plastic monstrosity that is that video. Because she is loving the attention. And she gets it. This is like Christmas to her. I'm just waiting for the next "neener, neener, neener" "Nah-nah-na-na-naaaa!"
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Post by elaine on Jun 20, 2016 0:52:46 GMT
Because she is loving the attention. And she gets it. This is like Christmas to her. I'm just waiting for the next "neener, neener, neener" "Nah-nah-na-na-naaaa!" She'll just end up leaving this thread and starting another one. It is what usually happens when her threads don't go her way.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 20, 2016 1:26:34 GMT
I see this as the same as rainbow, but the other side
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Post by lumo on Jun 20, 2016 1:51:30 GMT
Imma just leave this right here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 4:57:02 GMT
I see this as the same as rainbow, but the other side I'm not following you here. Can you clarify your meaning?
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Rainbow
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Where salt is in the air and sand is at my feet...
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Jun 26, 2014 5:57:41 GMT
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 20, 2016 5:52:59 GMT
Those people have been there, they have experienced gun control. Are you saying they are lying? What purpose would they have for lying about their experiences? Rainbow, why don't you ask our Australian peas their opinions on the Australian gun laws? You ought to be able to get a straight answer from them, rather than the packaged plastic monstrosity that is that video. Why would I need to ask more people? There are people already telling what has happened to them. They are real people too.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 20, 2016 8:32:48 GMT
Rainbow, why don't you ask our Australian peas their opinions on the Australian gun laws? You ought to be able to get a straight answer from them, rather than the packaged plastic monstrosity that is that video. Why would I need to ask more people? There are people already telling what has happened to them. They are real people too.Because the people in the video are selling a specific POV. Regular peas should mostly be people you can trust to give you the straight story about how the lack of guns is affecting their country.
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Post by rahnee on Jun 20, 2016 8:49:38 GMT
Those people have been there, they have experienced gun control. Are you saying they are lying? What purpose would they have for lying about their experiences? Rainbow, why don't you ask our Australian peas their opinions on the Australian gun laws? You ought to be able to get a straight answer from them, rather than the packaged plastic monstrosity that is that video. I'm Australian. I've experienced gun control. I'm happy to volunteer my experience/opinion. I think Australia's response of gun control was the best response they could have had. We haven't had a mass shooting here in 20 years. And even if it prevented only one a year, it would have been worth it. Of course crime is not going to disappear completely but I can tell you the average person here does not have access to guns. I don't know anyone that owns a gun. I don't know anyone that would have any need for a gun. I have never been the victim of a crime nor do I know anyone that has ever been the victim of a crime. Even if I lived in a high crime area, a gun would not help me. Its not like I'd be sleeping with it next to my bed to use it for any form of protection. It would securely locked away so that my children could not have access to it. It would be of absolutely no use to me at all in an emergency situation. So what other reason could I possibly need one for. I do see gun related deaths on the tv news. But most of the time its criminals killing other criminals.
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Post by rahnee on Jun 20, 2016 8:56:18 GMT
Just wanted to add that this video has to be close to 20 years and that Gary Fleetwood is a member of the Sporting Shooters Association. Maybe just a little bit biased.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 20, 2016 9:29:31 GMT
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ctencza
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Post by ctencza on Jun 20, 2016 11:05:21 GMT
I'm in Australia. Loooooove the gun laws here. Despite what you have been told, guns are available here. Many people have them. You just have to prove a need and obtain a license from the police. If you have anything in your background to suggest you might not be responsible with a gun, you don't get one. If you are responsible and keep up with your training you get to have guns. Simple. My kids don't go to schools through metal detectors and shootings are highly unusual. Of course, there are the crackpots who start yammering about wanting access to heavy firepower, but they are kind of patted on the head and pitied. But I guess that doesn't fit to well with the video's message.
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Post by corinne11 on Jun 20, 2016 11:15:59 GMT
I'm Australian and remember this time vividly.
I watched this video and was very surprised ( or maybe not!) to see not one mention of the terrible event that occurred that led to the gun ban.
This year was the 20 year anniversary of the Pt Arthur massacre where a lone gunman killed 35 people and seriously injured 23 others. Our Prime Minister at the time made some tough decisions and yes, there were many people like these in the video who were against it. More people. myself included watched Walter Mikac on t.v mourning the loss of his wife Nanette and their two girls Alannah(aged 6) and Madeleine( aged 3) who were chased behind a tree and shot dead by the gunman. I was not the biggest supporter of our PM at this time, but he stood his ground and our gun laws are a great legacy that he left behind.
The video shows short snippets of random comments and statistics that don't show where they come from. I feel very safe living here. Yes there is crime, murders,home invasions included and shootings. (many crime related) BUT, there has never been a mass shooting in our country since the Howard government instituted the semi- automatic buy back scheme. I am a teacher and work in a school setting that has open gates and yes we have invacuation and evacuation drills, but I never have a moment's fear that somebody with a gun will enter our school and try to harm us.
Our gun laws are working for us. This video does not indicate a true picture of what has happened here in Australia over the past 20 years.
Corinne
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Rainbow
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Where salt is in the air and sand is at my feet...
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 20, 2016 13:18:51 GMT
Why would I need to ask more people? There are people already telling what has happened to them. They are real people too. Because the people in the video are selling a specific POV. Regular peas should mostly be people you can trust to give you the straight story about how the lack of guns is affecting their country. Peas can have an agenda just like anyone else. I don't see why you'd believe one over the other.
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