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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 26, 2016 15:56:14 GMT
Yes.
Henrietta Lacks is an African-American woman from Baltimore who died of cancer in the 1950s; her tumor cells were used (without her knowledge) to create the first immortal cell line that has been used in a MULTITUDE of research since that time. During the time she was alive and when this research was first being done, they didn't have rules about how to handle this sort of thing.
I heard about her on a public radio interview, I think, about the book The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks, which is a fascinating book about her personally, her family, and the history of that kind of scientific research.
ETA: the book goes into detail about her and her family, but also discusses cases of other people who have had similar 'immortal' cell lines and the ethical / financial issues surrounding the use of their cells, as well as the evolution of scientific research and the rules / advances in scientific method and laws, etc. relating to that type of research-- it IS a fascinating book if you like geeky stuff like that.
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Post by ginacivey on Oct 26, 2016 15:59:17 GMT
I had a conversation with a telemarketer that prompted this question. now my question is....how did you get into a convo with a telemarketer about Henrietta Lacks? gina
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Post by Trixie Bender on Oct 26, 2016 15:59:24 GMT
You must get very different telemarketing calls than I do.
ETA: Gina and I were thinking the same thing!
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Post by SallyPA on Oct 26, 2016 16:02:46 GMT
Yes.
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Post by Olan on Oct 26, 2016 16:07:42 GMT
You must get very different telemarketing calls than I do. ETA: Gina and I were thinking the same thing! I doubt that my telemarketing calls differ from anyone else. Maybe my response does. *shrugs* The call was from the Center For Disease Control.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 26, 2016 16:12:47 GMT
that is interesting, Olan ! We only ever get calls from boring telemarketers... nothing where we'd actually want to talk to them! (unless you count my boyfriend trying to get them to tell him what city / country they're actually calling from, lol)
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Post by lbp on Oct 26, 2016 16:46:47 GMT
Yes, we read the book for our book club book. Henrietta Lacks was born in the town I work in, Roanoke VA. You would think there would be something here to honor her, but to my knowledge, there isn't.
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Post by bay63 on Oct 26, 2016 16:51:53 GMT
no, but now I'm going to read that book.
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Post by heartland on Oct 26, 2016 16:55:54 GMT
I do now. Prior to reading the book several years ago I didn't. I suspect that for people who haven't read the book or work directly in that area of science it isn't a well known name. Exactly this. And I'm pretty sure that it was on the original 2peas board that I heard about the book in the first place.
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Post by Sue on Oct 26, 2016 17:09:22 GMT
Having read the book, I do know about Henrietta Lacks and her enormous contribution to medical science.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 17:12:10 GMT
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Post by Why on Oct 26, 2016 17:17:12 GMT
no, but now I'm going to read that book. .......................
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Post by kernriver on Oct 26, 2016 17:45:47 GMT
Yes.
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Post by smcast on Oct 26, 2016 17:53:28 GMT
I do. I read the book about her. She is a black woman that doctors experimented on instead of trying to cure her. The book is titled The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks by Rebecca Skloot. This . Before the book-no.
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Post by chirpingcricket on Oct 26, 2016 17:58:49 GMT
You must get very different telemarketing calls than I do. ETA: Gina and I were thinking the same thing! I doubt that my telemarketing calls differ from anyone else. Maybe my response does. *shrugs* The call was from the Center For Disease Control. But -- how did this turn into a discussion of the Lacks lady? The Center for Disease Control employs telemarketing? What are they selling? I had heard of the existence of the person you mentioned, but I didn't remember her name and didn't read the book. I probably heard it on NPR.
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 26, 2016 18:00:29 GMT
Yes. Dd's entire freshman class had to read that before they started (university, not high school) and then the author came to their school to talk, they had seminars about it, etc. Very interesting.
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Post by originalvanillabean on Oct 26, 2016 18:03:19 GMT
Yes. What happened to her bothers me immensely.
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Post by Olan on Oct 26, 2016 19:08:00 GMT
I doubt that my telemarketing calls differ from anyone else. Maybe my response does. *shrugs* The call was from the Center For Disease Control. But -- how did this turn into a discussion of the Lacks lady? The Center for Disease Control employs telemarketing? What are they selling? I had heard of the existence of the person you mentioned, but I didn't remember her name and didn't read the book. I probably heard it on NPR. Ha! All of those questions can be directed at the CDC.
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Post by MaryMary on Oct 26, 2016 19:35:26 GMT
Yep, from the book.
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Post by marianne on Oct 26, 2016 19:46:23 GMT
Yes, I do - I read The Immortal Life of...
Totally appalling what happened to this woman, yet a fascinating read.
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Post by flute4peace on Oct 26, 2016 20:01:00 GMT
no, but now I'm going to read that book. Me too. This is a fascinating subject.
I have to admit that my first thought was, "Who the heck has conversations with telemarketers", but then when Olan gave more information I think it's awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 20:15:15 GMT
Always such interesting topics on the Pea board! I vaguely remember seeing something on tv about this but don't really know anything about the details. I need to learn about it.
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Post by sillyrabbit on Oct 26, 2016 20:23:52 GMT
I do. Read the book.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 20:25:53 GMT
Totally appalling what happened to this woman, yet a fascinating read. This is an honest question because I haven't read the book and I haven't given a thought to what happens to tissue that is taken during a biopsy before. What exactly is it that happened that was appalling? Because it appears that while she didn't consent to her tissue being used, it didn't impact her treatment or outcome in any way.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Oct 26, 2016 20:27:48 GMT
I do. I'm one of the few who didn't enjoy the book, though.
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Post by refugeepea on Oct 26, 2016 20:31:26 GMT
Yes, I LOVE the book about her! Very eye opening! I had always known black people were not treated equally as white people in hospitals for far too long. I had no idea about the testing and experimenting that was done without their permission or very deceitfully.
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Post by peasapie on Oct 26, 2016 20:35:30 GMT
Yes. I read the book a couple of years ago.
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Post by angiet on Oct 26, 2016 20:45:39 GMT
Yes, but only because I read the book on the Peas recommendation. After reading it, I think everyone should know about her.
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Post by refugeepea on Oct 26, 2016 20:45:56 GMT
What exactly is it that happened that was appalling? Because it appears that while she didn't consent to her tissue being used, it didn't impact her treatment or outcome in any way. They were deceptive about the collection of her cells. I'm bad at the scientific part, but basically they were unique and could be replicated over and over in a lab leading to groundbreaking finds. John Hopkins made significant amounts of money because of Henrietta Lacks. Her family had no idea they did this and John Hopkins had a history of treating black patients different than the white ones when it came to testing and treatment. They took advantage of her lack of education and harvested what they wanted from her for their own benefit.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Oct 26, 2016 21:01:45 GMT
Totally appalling what happened to this woman, yet a fascinating read. This is an honest question because I haven't read the book and I haven't given a thought to what happens to tissue that is taken during a biopsy before. What exactly is it that happened that was appalling? Because it appears that while she didn't consent to her tissue being used, it didn't impact her treatment or outcome in any way. Whether she consented or not is open to debate. I didn't really see what was appalling and I read the book. The author believed that the family should have gotten compensation for her tissue because the researchers made a lot of money from growing it and selling the resulting cells to be used in additional research and the family was extremely poor (something that has no correlation, in my mind). Personally, as someone who plans to donate her body, I don't care who makes money on the resulting research. I just hope that it furthers medical research in the long-run. My issue with with the book was that the author inserted herself into the story creating an obvious bias that got into the way of what could have been an interesting discussion on medical research ethics.
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