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Post by Olan on Oct 30, 2016 17:42:43 GMT
Blow by blow of telemarketing call so we are two for two and Gina can say I am a "real" pea and not someone who just drops black history facts (which I fully intend primary focus so yay!) here it goes: good grief Olan...i simply asked your opinion - Why would a poster about the revolutionary war be in an examine room. Or waiting room for that matter. agreed- if you are interested in some historical event - hang it in your office - at home gina You know our history and why I said what I said. You won't ever get anything more out of me. No matter how many private messages or message requests you send. Was that you? |
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Post by StephDRebel on Oct 30, 2016 17:44:45 GMT
Don't Tred on Me was me pulling from my own personal experiences to share that disparity in care exists even for women who've reached the pinnacle of education and pay good money to be seen by someone fucking qualified and competent. No politics involved. You don't get why I was offended. We all know neither my sister and I know why. Kymberlee do you believe it belonged in the waiting room? I am okay with the dialogue about the don't Tred on Me experience I didn't say I was upset I just brought up the irony. Did that upset you? It shouldn't take away from the peas learning about a woman who deserves more than society gave her. Should it? Topics go like this here all the time. Don't make it all my fault though. I can't have this conversations with myself. OWNERSHIP. Thats the new nugget. Dip it into high fructose corn syrup and thank Henrietta Lacks you don't have polio! I mean, you kind of are having the conversation alone while were all sitting here trying to make sense of your random rants. I feel like I'm sitting in front of my computer with that head tilt that my puppy gives me when he's confused Not sure what you mean. Confused about why she walked about the doctors office or what the "Don't Tred On Me" sign meant? I thought gun control and I forget what her guess was. Never of us were entirely clear of what it meant even after I googled because my focus was switched to helping her find a new doctor. We both agreed it didn't belong in an examining room. So, you admit that neither of you have a clue what it means, but decided to be offended by it? Which I guess is your right, but that seems a little over reactive. It has nothing to do with gun control. It was a sign of Independence and freedom during the revolutionary war. |
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Post by Olan on Oct 30, 2016 17:49:37 GMT
Don't Tred on Me was me pulling from my own personal experiences to share that disparity in care exists even for women who've reached the pinnacle of education and pay good money to be seen by someone fucking qualified and competent. No politics involved. You don't get why I was offended. We all know neither my sister and I know why. Kymberlee do you believe it belonged in the waiting room? I am okay with the dialogue about the don't Tred on Me experience I didn't say I was upset I just brought up the irony. Did that upset you? It shouldn't take away from the peas learning about a woman who deserves more than society gave her. Should it? Topics go like this here all the time. Don't make it all my fault though. I can't have this conversations with myself. OWNERSHIP. Thats the new nugget. Dip it into high fructose corn syrup and thank Henrietta Lacks you don't have polio! I mean, you kind of are having the conversation alone while were all sitting here trying to make sense of your random rants. I feel like I'm sitting in front of my computer with that head tilt that my puppy gives me when he's confused So, you admit that neither of you have a clue what it means, but decided to be offended by it? Which I guess is your right, but that seems a little over reactive. It has nothing to do with gun control. It was a sign of Independence and freedom during the revolutionary war. That could probably explain the state of affairs we find ourselves in. You do realize I have a vested interest in being both heard and understood. That hasn't happened yet. People who look like me are dying because of this. People like me are having unpleasant experiences like my sister. It happens. It's still happening I think the anger replaced the hope for a lot of people. I rooted for you even when all the other peas thought you were disgusting and called you Staph. They hated they choices you made because they didn't agree with them. Hell I rooted for you when you were Staph! Super happy you are doing well. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 17:50:56 GMT
OP, I'm having trouble making any sense out of what you just said. I'm not angry, I like you just fine, I think you always add to the conversation. But today I can't make heads or tails out of what you're talking about. Perhaps it's me, but it seems others are equally confused. I'm serious, I can't figure out what you're saying in your response. Ownership of what? What does February mean in this context? I don't understand what you're winning, or what "fuckery" you're talking about. What silence and inference? Lots of things resonate with me, too. But maybe I'm just having an unfocused day, because I feel like we're having completely different conversations here and you're getting upset at what I'm posting. I'm pretty straightforward, so I don't know what you think I might feel (confused?).
Sorry if I'm giving you the impression that I'm on board with some agenda. I'm not, but I'll just move on and let you be.
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Post by StephDRebel on Oct 30, 2016 17:54:29 GMT
I mean, you kind of are having the conversation alone while were all sitting here trying to make sense of your random rants. I feel like I'm sitting in front of my computer with that head tilt that my puppy gives me when he's confused That could probably explain the state of affairs we find ourselves in. You do realize I have a vested interest in being both heard and understood. That hasn't happened yet. People who look like me are dying because of this. People like me are having unpleasant experiences like my sister. It happens. It's still happening I think the anger replaced the hope for a lot of people. I rooted for you even when all the other peas thought you were disgusting and called you Staph. They hated they choices you made because they didn't agree with them. Hell I rooted for you when you were Staph! Super happy you are doing well. You aren't being heard for one reason and one reason alone. You aren't communicating clearly. You seem...frenzied? Are you ok? |
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Post by ginacivey on Oct 30, 2016 17:59:46 GMT
You know our history and why I said what I said. You won't ever get anything more out of me. No matter how many private messages or message requests you send. Was that you? nope...i've spent the last 20 minute trying to figure out what the hell you are raging about .... i do recall our history - but i'm not gripping it to my chest and shaking it with a vengeance continue with your hatred of me - i'm good with it - cos you are off the rails here at least i'm not alone on the bench - |
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 30, 2016 18:01:29 GMT
I'm totally confused so I think I'll just stop reading. lol. The biggest confusion for me is why Olan started the rant about the poster in the first place, when she said she and her sister didn't even know what it meant. It's like she was looking for some reason to be offended. OP, you asked a simple question in the beginning and we were all responding, some "yes" and some "no" and then some were asking questions and others were answering. You were the one who brought in all this anger and turned the discussion to your sister's doctor's office.  |
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Post by anxiousmom on Oct 30, 2016 18:02:43 GMT
I kind of feel like I am being held to a set a expectations, but no one explained the rules.
I thought I was being helpful... I did listen to your concerns, I told you what I knew on the subject and agreed I would be uncomfortable too.
I may not have walked in your shoes, but I think my heart has room enough to understand you feel pain and anger and can at least walk the path in support of you. But I get the feeling I wouldn't be welcome. A long time ago, I had a grandfather who marched with Dr. King. I grew up knowing that the only way we make changes is by working together to learn each other's stories so that we can live together without conflict.
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Post by Olan on Oct 30, 2016 18:05:35 GMT
Frenzied. No. And I can see where this is headed. I am going to show you how little I care by letting you pounce on the online me while the real live me enjoys this beautiful fall weather.
Irony in how Staph turned the very thing you guys dogged her aboutinto a viable business. Then got all happily ever after and married an ole bear of a dude I would totes asks for help on the side of the road from. You are in Ohio right. So is my sister. She is super sweet but a holy roller so you'd have my ear more than you'd have hers😜
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Post by StephDRebel on Oct 30, 2016 18:16:25 GMT
Frenzied. No. And I can see where this is headed. I am going to show you how little I care by letting you pounce on the online me while the real live me enjoys this beautiful fall weather. Irony in how Staph turned the very thing you guys dogged her aboutinto a viable business. Then got all happily ever after and married an ole bear of a dude I would totes asks for help on the side of the road from. You are in Ohio right. So is my sister. She is super sweet but a holy roller so you'd have my ear more than you'd have hers😜 I honestly have no idea if that's supposed to be a compliment or if I should be offended. So, thanks...or go fuck yourself. Whichever is more appropriate. I'm overwhelmed trying to follow. |
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Post by ginacivey on Oct 30, 2016 18:17:39 GMT
I honestly have no idea if that's supposed to be a compliment or if I should be offended. just sit down on this bench with me it's fruitless - and she's outside soaking up that Vitamin D |
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Post by StephDRebel on Oct 30, 2016 18:19:45 GMT
It makes me kind of sad that you derailed your own post so hard core. I bought the book and was excited reading more about her and her story and then BAM.
Now I'm kind of pissed that I spent the money on it. It'll be hard to read without the fuckery on this post being on my mind. Lord.
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Post by StephDRebel on Oct 30, 2016 18:20:51 GMT
I honestly have no idea if that's supposed to be a compliment or if I should be offended. just sit down on this bench with me it's fruitless - and she's outside soaking up that Vitamin D Orgasms decrease anxiety , tension, and stress. Maybe I should run a sale...for the good of all of us. Ha |
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Post by anxiousmom on Oct 30, 2016 18:24:00 GMT
just sit down on this bench with me it's fruitless - and she's outside soaking up that Vitamin D Orgasms decrease anxiety , tension, and stress. Maybe I should run a sale...for the good of all of us. Ha It would a hell of a marketing campaign... "Is the election season causing you anxiety and stress? I have the perfect tool to help!" lol |
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Post by freebird on Oct 30, 2016 18:30:13 GMT
Looks at calendar.
I guess it *IS* time for our monthly Olan's "White people bad, black people wronged" post.
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Post by Olan on Oct 31, 2016 10:58:53 GMT
I alone derailed this thread? Interesting take on things. Ownership is still the name of the game and you guys are losing. You were all excited to read about Henrietta Lacks and now I ruined it for you?! Girl bye. You know that isn't the truth and if that is what the hell does that say about you.
I had a little more fun that I should have but I think the couple peas who participated did too. Ha!
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Post by Olan on Oct 31, 2016 11:09:37 GMT
I honestly have no idea if that's supposed to be a compliment or if I should be offended. just sit down on this bench with me it's fruitless - and she's outside soaking up that Vitamin D Gina if I am the usher directing which bench each pea should sit on.....you'd be directed to the pissy one the homeless man just vacated. Please don't pretend to be unclear how I feel about you. Also stop sending me private messages. And you're welcome Stehpanie! Are there any of the remaining peas who attacked your parenting style? You know the ones who called you white trash at every turn and generally made you feel like you deserved your lot in life? Now they are all like yeah sell those dildos! Such fakes! I truly truly don't know what caused me to hold you guys with any regard and spend as much time as I did here. Dry brushing and Kundalini time! I shall return!!!! |
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Post by grinningcat on Oct 31, 2016 12:27:12 GMT
Clearly something is missing from Olan's CDC conversation... I mean, it just skips from "vaccines" to "HeLa". ?? Why would that be one's response to a question about vaccines? -- Anyway, I just went back and read the whole thread to see how we got from "do you know who this person is?" to the fighting on the last page or two. All I saw where people saying either "yes I've heard of her" or "no I haven't" and some asking honest questions about who she was and what the implications of her story are. I'm a bit confused still about how "don't tread on me" relates to it. Guess I should go read that section again. Yeah, don't bother to reread. It was all answered in her reply. The call didn't go the way she described. She just said that to bait people into a reaction and, when no shit was flipped, she pretended it was, so that she could go on the offensive about…something. IDK, I got kind of lost at that point in the manic laughter. I'm confused. I was truly wondering how it came up in the conversation because it could be an interesting conversation. But it was all a lie? |
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Post by grinningcat on Oct 31, 2016 12:32:15 GMT
It makes me kind of sad that you derailed your own post so hard core. I bought the book and was excited reading more about her and her story and then BAM. Now I'm kind of pissed that I spent the money on it. It'll be hard to read without the fuckery on this post being on my mind. Lord. That's basically where I am. I was excited to read this book and have a discussion about it. Now? I just feel duped. Or something. I'm not sure. I feel like I'm missing a big part of the conversation in this thread. |
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Post by grinningcat on Oct 31, 2016 12:34:58 GMT
I alone derailed this thread? Interesting take on things. Ownership is still the name of the game and you guys are losing. You were all excited to read about Henrietta Lacks and now I ruined it for you?! Girl bye. You know that isn't the truth and if that is what the hell does that say about you. I had a little more fun that I should have but I think the couple peas who participated did too. Ha! I was hoping for a conversation with someone who is obvious very knowledgeable about Lacks, so yes, I am feeling duped by what you've said and how I feel like you've either baited us with the information and then switched to something else that I can't grasp. I will probably still read the book, but it was the conversation with you and others that I was most interested in. |
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Post by Dalai Mama on Oct 31, 2016 13:23:30 GMT
Yeah, don't bother to reread. It was all answered in her reply. The call didn't go the way she described. She just said that to bait people into a reaction and, when no shit was flipped, she pretended it was, so that she could go on the offensive about…something. IDK, I got kind of lost at that point in the manic laughter. I'm confused. I was truly wondering how it came up in the conversation because it could be an interesting conversation. But it was all a lie? I was confused too but here's what I got: the OP described the conversation somewhere on page 4 but, apparently, she described it to paint herself in the worst light and then cried 'gotcha' because I asked why her imaginary response to a seemingly innocuous question (which might also have been imaginary?) was so aggressive - like you, I thought I was missing something. As to why she would do that? I don't know and I've lost interest.
As to the topic of Henrietta Lacks - it's fascinating but I would recommend skipping the book and researching it online.
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Post by Kymberlee on Oct 31, 2016 13:38:35 GMT
It makes me kind of sad that you derailed your own post so hard core. I bought the book and was excited reading more about her and her story and then BAM. Now I'm kind of pissed that I spent the money on it. It'll be hard to read without the fuckery on this post being on my mind. Lord. That's basically where I am. I was excited to read this book and have a discussion about it. Now? I just feel duped. Or something. I'm not sure. I feel like I'm missing a big part of the conversation in this thread. I think the only part of the conversation that you are missing is the one that Olan is having in her head. I believe that Dalai Mama has the gist of it. Olan was hoping this thread would go in a different direction (for what reason, I have no idea), and when it didn't, she started talking about all kinds of nonsensical stuff. When questioned about WTH she was talking about, those that questioned her were all of the sudden hating on her and her sister and were called out for being racists. Or something like that. |
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Post by gar on Oct 31, 2016 13:56:38 GMT
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Post by grinningcat on Oct 31, 2016 13:56:49 GMT
I'm confused. I was truly wondering how it came up in the conversation because it could be an interesting conversation. But it was all a lie? I was confused too but here's what I got: the OP described the conversation somewhere on page 4 but, apparently, she described it to paint herself in the worst light and then cried 'gotcha' because I asked why her imaginary response to a seemingly innocuous question (which might also have been imaginary?) was so aggressive - like you, I thought I was missing something. As to why she would do that? I don't know and I've lost interest.
As to the topic of Henrietta Lacks - it's fascinating but I would recommend skipping the book and researching it online.
Thanks. Do you have any suggested resources? I've never invested time in this realm, so I have no idea what would be legit and what would be along the lines of wikipedia. |
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Post by grinningcat on Oct 31, 2016 13:57:33 GMT
That's basically where I am. I was excited to read this book and have a discussion about it. Now? I just feel duped. Or something. I'm not sure. I feel like I'm missing a big part of the conversation in this thread. I think the only part of the conversation that you are missing is the one that Olan is having in her head. I believe that Dalai Mama has the gist of it. Olan was hoping this thread would go in a different direction (for what reason, I have no idea), and when it didn't, she started talking about all kinds of nonsensical stuff. When questioned about WTH she was talking about, those that questioned her were all of the sudden hating on her and her sister and were called out for being racists. Or something like that. Oh. Well, that cleared it up. Not really. I'm just going to go over there now. |
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Post by Dalai Mama on Oct 31, 2016 14:44:29 GMT
I was confused too but here's what I got: the OP described the conversation somewhere on page 4 but, apparently, she described it to paint herself in the worst light and then cried 'gotcha' because I asked why her imaginary response to a seemingly innocuous question (which might also have been imaginary?) was so aggressive - like you, I thought I was missing something. As to why she would do that? I don't know and I've lost interest.
As to the topic of Henrietta Lacks - it's fascinating but I would recommend skipping the book and researching it online.
Thanks. Do you have any suggested resources? I've never invested time in this realm, so I have no idea what would be legit and what would be along the lines of wikipedia. I would start here: Berkeley Science Review
Here's an interview with NIH Director Francis Collins that touches on the ethical issues with the re-release of the genome: Nature article
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Post by ginacivey on Oct 31, 2016 15:05:30 GMT
Also stop sending me private messages. i sent you ONE message -last July (for the nosey bunch it said quit flattering yourself |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 31, 2016 15:31:51 GMT
I've only heard of her from the threads about the book here and on the old two peas. It seems fascinating but I haven't attempted to read it, not sure I'd understand the science side of it. ^^^ the author of the book switches between discussing her present-day quest to find Henrietta Lacks' family members and places (houses, etc.) from her life, and discussions about Henrietta Lacks' life, illness, death, and the scientific advances that were made in the realm of cell line research. I don't know much about that sort of science at all, but I thought the explanations about the science were fairly easy to follow. (just in case you might still want to try and read it, don't let the 'scienc-ey' stuff scare you away.) ETA: dang, I should REALLY read the entire thread before I post a reply... clearly this thread went VERY much sideways and is not about Henrietta Lacks anymore. In light of how it turned out, I actually feel badly about keeping it going, and I apologize for that. I think I'd still recommend reading the book, if only for the personal part of the author's search for the family members... but that's because I like personal memoir type books. |
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Post by oh yvonne on Oct 31, 2016 15:59:35 GMT
What a creepy thread. Woah.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Oct 31, 2016 16:18:40 GMT
I had to google Gadsen flag and check wikipedia to see why a flag from the Revolutionary War (not Civil War) would be so upsetting. I grew up near Philadelphia, so I've only ever seen it in a historical setting. Apparently some Libertarians and TeaPartiers have used a version of the flag on bumper stickers. I'm guessing if the flag was in an office, it was for decoration of a historical nature. Did you ask the office staff? Were there other decorations of a historical/antique nature in the office? I have no idea what the political leanings of my doctors are. I'm sure the doctor is going to have the same political opinions whether there are signs/flags in his office or not. If my doctor had a Gadsen flag I would have just assumed he was a soccer fan. |
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