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Post by mom on Feb 6, 2018 16:48:50 GMT
I used to say that I hated seeing political signs in my neighbors' yards, but it has become clear to me that I can use that as a way to easily rule out a candidate. It has exactly the opposite effect that I think that they hope it does. That would not work at my house--usually the signs in my yard are the people I am not voting for. I have been known to put up signs for both candidates. I am an equal opportunity advertiser. And it is no one's business who I vote for. Just because I say yes to your sign is not indication that I am voting for you thats funny. Right now I have a sign in my yard....for a cousin who is running in local politics in another state. LOL SaveSave |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 17:07:23 GMT
I get twitchy over yard signs of all kinds. It seems the older I get, the less tolerance I have for all the signs and ads and outright junk everywhere. Even if it’s a candidate I support or a product I like, etc., all I see is too much crap all over the place!
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Post by blondiec47 on Feb 6, 2018 17:18:49 GMT
I figure if you come to my door and ask, I will usually say yes. There is 1 man that always runs in my town, I have known him my entire life, I always let him put a sign out, but I have never voted for him (we are on opposite sides of the aisle)
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Feb 6, 2018 17:20:53 GMT
Yes, I just saw the “sandbox” comment because I started browsing without being logged in. All I will say is that the ignore feature is a wonderful tool. I have this love-hate relationship with "ignore," lol. Part of me wants to use it because it's tiring to see the bashing. On the other hand, I want to know who people really are, kwim? I do feel part of the reason people just "know they are right" and are unwilling to truly discuss with open ears is because they surround themselves with like minds, discuss in closed circles and "ignore" in real life much like online. My mother is an adamant Trump supporter. She is a wonderful, caring, generous, and intelligent woman. However, on FB she follows quite a few rabid Trump groups and hasn't truly fleshed out her own reasons for supporting him. She's a headline reader, and nothing else. But she'll parrot on social media, or in discussion the short blurbs that resonate with her. If I try to engage further, she gets frustrated and angry. I wish I could get through to her the value of discussion. Sorry for the tangent  |
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Post by Susie_Homemaker on Feb 6, 2018 17:26:33 GMT
And better yet, the ones that do it, do so proudly, because it's accepted on this board now. I'd go so far as to say it's encouraged. They find nothing wrong with their behavior and promise to continue to behave in that manner. I don't recall who said it but she made it crystal clear that if you voted for Trump YOU are a complete and total idiot. Someone questioned her on it and she unequivocally stated it again. I just can't deal with that kind of animosity and unwillingness to see anything but your views (which are 100% correct!). Thank you for starting this thread! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 17:54:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 18:01:57 GMT
I have this love-hate relationship with "ignore," lol. Part of me wants to use it because it's tiring to see the bashing. On the other hand, I want to know who people really are, kwim? I do feel part of the reason people just "know they are right" and are unwilling to truly discuss with open ears is because they surround themselves with like minds, discuss in closed circles and "ignore" in real life much like online. My mother is an adamant Trump supporter. She is a wonderful, caring, generous, and intelligent woman. However, on FB she follows quite a few rabid Trump groups and hasn't truly fleshed out her own reasons for supporting him. She's a headline reader, and nothing else. But she'll parrot on social media, or in discussion the short blurbs that resonate with her. If I try to engage further, she gets frustrated and angry. I wish I could get through to her the value of discussion. Sorry for the tangent I think a lot of people are Trump supporters because they couldn't be Hillary supporters! and in the long run, I'm sure we are better off having Trump be president than if Hillary had won. Do you think the memo would have even come to light had Hillary won? No way. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 18:13:33 GMT
What do you think will happen with DACA and the shutdown? Shumer already blinked once....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 18:41:00 GMT
What do you think will happen with DACA and the shutdown? Shumer already blinked once.... I truly believe there is no way in hell the democrats want a solution to DACA under Trump, no way-no how. They will do whatever they can to prevent it from happening during his presidency, and will use it as a campaign pitch for the mid-terms and beyond. Will it be used for another shutdown? I don't think so, a lot of democrats and republicans out there were p.o.'d so they won't risk that again. But as a future tool? Absolutely. |
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Post by mom on Feb 6, 2018 18:43:16 GMT
What do you think will happen with DACA and the shutdown? Shumer already blinked once.... I truly believe there is no way in hell the democrats want a solution to DACA under Trump, no way-no how. They will do whatever they can to prevent it from happening during his presidency, and will use it as a campaign pitch for the mid-terms and beyond. Will it be used for another shutdown? I don't think so, a lot of democrats and republicans out there were p.o.'d so they won't risk that again. But as a future tool? Absolutely. I agree. It won't be used for a shut down, but I do think it will be used in the future. SaveSaveSaveSave |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 19:40:42 GMT
I don't think anybody "wins" with a shutdown, and maybe before long, our representatives will see that too. Sometimes both sides can be pretty stubborn though!
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Post by burningfeather on Feb 6, 2018 19:44:36 GMT
What do you think will happen with DACA and the shutdown? Shumer already blinked once.... I truly believe there is no way in hell the democrats want a solution to DACA under Trump, no way-no how. They will do whatever they can to prevent it from happening during his presidency, and will use it as a campaign pitch for the mid-terms and beyond. Will it be used for another shutdown? I don't think so, a lot of democrats and republicans out there were p.o.'d so they won't risk that again. But as a future tool? Absolutely. Interesting. It hadn't even occurred to me that they wouldn't want him to have the "win." Fine line there because they can't afford to anger the Hispanic voting base either. Negotiating is a funny thing. Some people have the balls for it and others don't. Experience helps. Having nothing at stake also helps. I figure that Trump probably has more experience at actual negotiating than most in Congress and he probably has the least to lose because I don't think he really cares if he is reelected and frankly I think he's prepared to walk away from the job (all while declaring himself a winner) if he's pushed into a corner. So he has almost nothing to lose while career politicians have a lot on the line. |
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Post by jlynnbarth on Feb 6, 2018 20:35:45 GMT
I hope it's not used for another shutdown. Like I said in a previous thread when that was all happening last time, my son is in Africa on deployment, on a dry base. No running or potable water. They ship in all water for those troops. They were put on water rations in 90 degree heat with 90 percent humidity because they were afraid with the pending shutdown that no deliveries of water would be made. That is not ok with me or anyone else I know. Take care of the dang Military! It's 1% of our population that volunteers to keep us safe, freaking take care of them! Everyone will want them to "do something" if we are ever attacked, but our government is willing to not pay them and not send them supplies because of some political game? It's not right and I wouldn't blame one of them for getting out if that's what they chose to do when their contract is up.
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Post by anonbannedpea on Feb 6, 2018 20:50:13 GMT
This thread is not for name-calling of other Peas or gossiping about them and their opinions.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 21:03:53 GMT
I hope it's not used for another shutdown. Like I said in a previous thread when that was all happening last time, my son is in Africa on deployment, on a dry base. No running or potable water. They ship in all water for those troops. They were put on water rations in 90 degree heat with 90 percent humidity because they were afraid with the pending shutdown that no deliveries of water would be made. That is not ok with me or anyone else I know. Take care of the dang Military! It's 1% of our population that volunteers to keep us safe, freaking take care of them! Everyone will want them to "do something" if we are ever attacked, but our government is willing to not pay them and not send them supplies because of some political game? It's not right and I wouldn't blame one of them for getting out if that's what they chose to do when their contract is up. I don't think ANY of the voting public want our military people abandoned like that. They are the backbone of our country!! |
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Post by jlynnbarth on Feb 6, 2018 21:36:29 GMT
I agree @donnie It's the congress that could care less about them and allows them to be used as pawns in their stupid political games. None of them, democrat or republican are innocent in it and it ticks me off! My husband was affected by shutdowns in the Clinton admin while on active duty and now my son and daughter/SIL could be affected for more than a weekend if they keep playing games. I hope they don't do it again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 22:47:20 GMT
This may sound weird, but I like to listen to Hannity once in awhile. It almost makes me like trump. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Feb 6, 2018 22:48:54 GMT
I ventured into a political thread this morning (about Melania's pantsuit) and cannot get over how nasty some grown women treat other people. I'm really hoping that it's keyboard courage and that they aren't like that in real life. There are some Peas in that thread that have been referred to as "sweet and kind" and I just don't see it at all. I have lost respect for some Peas that I thought were nicer due to the way they talk in the political threads. I've been sadly surprised at the hate and ugliness directed at other people that don't think the same as they do. I can usually see both sides of an issue, I don't always agree with both sides, but I feel good that I can actually understand how both sides can see what they are seeing. But too many people, that I used to think were nice, just refuse to see that any opinion that isn't the same as theirs is ok. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 23:08:55 GMT
I ventured into a political thread this morning (about Melania's pantsuit) and cannot get over how nasty some grown women treat other people. I'm really hoping that it's keyboard courage and that they aren't like that in real life. There are some Peas in that thread that have been referred to as "sweet and kind" and I just don't see it at all. I have lost respect for some Peas that I thought were nicer due to the way they talk in the political threads. I've been sadly surprised at the hate and ugliness directed at other people that don't think the same as they do. I can usually see both sides of an issue, I don't always agree with both sides, but I feel good that I can actually understand how both sides can see what they are seeing. But too many people, that I used to think were nice, just refuse to see that any opinion that isn't the same as theirs is ok. I get torked about how words are put into other's mouths, and changes the meaning of their post. I've decided not to respond anymore. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Feb 7, 2018 0:12:40 GMT
I do feel part of the reason people just "know they are right" and are unwilling to truly discuss with open ears is because they surround themselves with like minds, discuss in closed circles and "ignore" in real life much like online. My mother is an adamant Trump supporter. She is a wonderful, caring, generous, and intelligent woman. However, on FB she follows quite a few rabid Trump groups and hasn't truly fleshed out her own reasons for supporting him. She's a headline reader, and nothing else. But she'll parrot on social media, or in discussion the short blurbs that resonate with her. If I try to engage further, she gets frustrated and angry. I wish I could get through to her the value of discussion. Sorry for the tangent I think a lot of people are Trump supporters because they couldn't be Hillary supporters! and in the long run, I'm sure we are better off having Trump be president than if Hillary had won. Do you think the memo would have even come to light had Hillary won? No way. This is/was my dh He was active duty military when Bill was president and he didn't want another Clinton presidency. He voted for Obama once of the two times he ran (I just can't remember which time). I doubt he would have voted for Trump had it been someone other then a Clinton running against him. |
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Post by katieanna on Feb 7, 2018 0:22:49 GMT
For the past few months, I've been incognito partly because of time (the lack thereof) and partly due to the political atmosphere of this board. Seeing this thread was like taking a deep breath of fresh air. I'll be sure to check in on a regular basis. Special thanks to the OP!
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Post by sunraynnc on Feb 7, 2018 1:08:13 GMT
Hello new friends!
OP, I'm honored to be tagged. We are four pages in and the language used here has been so civil. I like kind language and I don't like name calling or criticizing other's appearance.
I believe you should work hard, take care of your family, be kind, help others, and MYOB.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 2:50:43 GMT
Anyone watching news on this "Grassley-Graham Memo"? I had my photography class tonight and my back has been killing me all day so it's a little difficult to follow along as to where this came from, but it sure does look interesting.
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Post by megop on Feb 7, 2018 3:41:53 GMT
Ok, well first of all, I'm just going to say that none of us are immune to having said things here that are offensive to others here on this board. At the end of the day, neither side should feel superior regarding the collective speech of one party over another. If you look at quite a few threads gone awry, it's when the "collective" speech gets switched back and forth between the "individual" speech. I think people lose that difference in the heat of discussion quite a bit.
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Post by jlynnbarth on Feb 7, 2018 3:42:11 GMT
@gajenny I've read several news articles from several news sources regarding the Memo, but all of them so far say the same thing, that the redactions make it too hard to figure out who the real players are and until they are gone, we won't know much. I hope the investigations are over soon and that we can punish the proper people (which ever side is in the wrong) so that we can move on as a nation.
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Post by elaine on Feb 7, 2018 3:47:13 GMT
Ok, well first of all, I'm just going to say that none of us are immune to having said things here that are offensive to others here on this board. At the end of the day, neither side should feel superior regarding the collective speech of one party over another. If you look at quite a few threads gone awry, it's when the "collective" speech gets switched back and forth between the "individual" speech. I think people lose that difference in the heat of discussion quite a bit. I continue to love you to the moon and back. Please know that, always. |
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Post by megop on Feb 7, 2018 3:48:39 GMT
Ok, well first of all, I'm just going to say that none of us are immune to having said things here that are offensive to others here on this board. At the end of the day, neither side should feel superior regarding the collective speech of one party over another. If you look at quite a few threads gone awry, it's when the "collective" speech gets switched back and forth between the "individual" speech. I think people lose that difference in the heat of discussion quite a bit. I continue to love you to the moon and back. Please know that, always. Back at ya girl. |
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 7, 2018 6:14:46 GMT
<waving Hi>
Disclaimer - I haven't read more than the first few posts on this thread, yet.
Further disclaimer - I absolutely refuse to so much as open almost all of the threads on this board now.
I have absolutely zero, zip, nada, no patience for the drama. Whatever tolerance I had is pretty much gone. Don't complain to me about how the world is ending because you think Trump is guilty for some nonsensical, petty, non-crime that was based on nothing but the imagination borne of ill will while defending those who have the most hard evidence of serious crimes committed against this nation that I have ever heard of in my lifetime and expect me to continue to sit there.
Not happening.
In my opinion, all of this outrage we've been subjected to for over one solid year is nothing but smoke and mirrors in an attempt to redirect attention away from the truest dangers.
<waving bye!>
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Post by mom26 on Feb 7, 2018 6:33:12 GMT
<waving Hi> Disclaimer - I haven't read more than the first few posts on this thread, yet. Further disclaimer - I absolutely refuse to so much as open almost all of the threads on this board now. I have absolutely zero, zip, nada, no patience for the drama. Whatever tolerance I had is pretty much gone. Don't complain to me about how the world is ending because you think Trump is guilty for some nonsensical, petty, non-crime that was based on nothing but the imagination borne of ill will while defending those who have the most hard evidence of serious crimes committed against this nation that I have ever heard of in my lifetime and expect me to continue to sit there. Not happening. In my opinion, all of this outrage we've been subjected to for over one solid year is nothing but smoke and mirrors in an attempt to redirect attention away from the truest dangers. <waving bye!> I've been reading this thread for days, trying to figure out what I wanted to say. leftturnonly nailed it. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Feb 7, 2018 6:34:46 GMT
<waving Hi> Disclaimer - I haven't read more than the first few posts on this thread, yet. Further disclaimer - I absolutely refuse to so much as open almost all of the threads on this board now. I have absolutely zero, zip, nada, no patience for the drama. Whatever tolerance I had is pretty much gone. Don't complain to me about how the world is ending because you think Trump is guilty for some nonsensical, petty, non-crime that was based on nothing but the imagination borne of ill will while defending those who have the most hard evidence of serious crimes committed against this nation that I have ever heard of in my lifetime and expect me to continue to sit there. Not happening. In my opinion, all of this outrage we've been subjected to for over one solid year is nothing but smoke and mirrors in an attempt to redirect attention away from the truest dangers. <waving bye!> Good to see you I spend a lot less time here then ever before. Now I spend more time at a stamping message board that I can’t even post on  |
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