Each Passing the Buck

money.cnn.com/2018/04/16/news/companies/starbucks-ceo-apology/index.html

Starbucks called it "unconscious bias".





How this thread went down for posterity sake: 


Listen Olan I refuse to stand between an officer and innocent black men?!??
WTF?!!! You don't want to watch your people victimized on video again and again?!!!
Are you kidding!??!! 
You don't want a discussion! 




Olan : I'm okay if you don't agree with me. What does allyship look like to you? 





*crickets* 


I get it. You like your lattes. LOL 

Someone asked above what I thought might happen if Andrew Yaffe or another witness physically intervened.




 Also, the end goal isn't less police brutality but a complete end. 


The history of racial violence between police and black Americans has long been documented and researched. We know the bias exists. You've seen the number of black men killed by police in recent years? Are you okay with that? Should absolutely nothing be done? I've asked several times what allyship looks like to the peas. Would anyone like to tackle that instead of asking me the same question again and again? 

Allyship DOES NOT LOOK LIKE YOUR BLACK FRIENDS BEING LEAD AWAY IN HANDCUFFS WHILE YOU LAMENT ABOUT HOW UNFAIR LIFE IS. 


I don't need anyone to agree with me or even see my perspective. I said what I said. You say that the incident showed no signs of racial violence and while the men aren't being roughed up or shot in the back on dash cam, we do know that interactions between police and innocent black men have resulted in a black family losing their loved one. The stakes are high. Knowing that sad fact and still calling the police means America is again using scare tactics on its black citizens.  Just as it did when public lynchings were acceptable. This is no different. If you do nothing you are just as much to blame. 

I'm unsure of what you mean by this but whatever lights a fire under the ass of white women to see that this isn't just a black woman problem is fine by me. Your perspective. Mine. I don't care. Trayvon Martin is dead. Tamir Rice is dead. And Brennan's mom almost had to call her Army Ranger husband and tell him he needs to come home to bury their child. This, all because white people refuse to get their shit together! The narrative would have been thug/punk kid vs firefighter hero. Ziegler pretty much sainted himself in court when he told the judge he saved three children from a burning building but neglected to mention that road rage case *rolls eyes*.


The fact that things like this continue to happen or are happening at all is indicative of my stance that whatever society is doing isn't enough. No one should argue that. We can all stop focusing on what I think allyship looks like because as much as the peas try to silence or deflect from the issues I post, we should all be able to unanimously agree no one really cares what I think allyship should look like any damn way. 



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I put a * by the confusing part. I understood your question and already addressed it. No need for you to tackle what allyship looks like to you. Then this would be a discussion. Have a great day.

Thanks Tracy. I'm going to have to stop responding to you and another pea in this thread. Maybe an open dialogue between you and I just isn't possible. I feel like I've answered your questions and I've certainly shared that no one has to agree with me 100%. Still, you seem stuck and/or argumentative. I'm not in that space. All the best to you. 

And when does culpability start for police using good judgment? Every profession has best practices and evaluates the need for change should those best practices begin to adversely affect either the company or individuals.

When a black citizen is holding a cell phone in his/her hand we allow police to make a judgment call that leads to their demise but in this instance, the law is just the law. 


Washington DC will require LEO to take a black history course.

Community Policing
 


“We start at 6 a.m. for three hours of lectures that go from Africa to present day. For three hours after which, we walk here and we begin our tour at 9:30 in the morning until 3:30 in the afternoon,” said professor Bernard Demczuk.

“We also take officers on to a U Street tour where we spend four or five hours in the Shaw community examining police brutality, examining history, examining the black Mecca of America, Washington, D.C. and the black Broadway along U Street; and the officers get a real good sense of D.C. history, D.C. policing and how we here are changing policing in America,” Demczuk said.

“The community is more diverse, more cultural. You have to be more aware of that and police that way. You know, everybody wants to be heard and has a different story; and everybody is not the same,” said Master Police officer Curtis Coleman, who trains cadets at the D.C. Police Academy.

Coleman is one of a few officers who goes through the training with the groups of civilian and sworn officers — often comprising those both new to the department and others further along in their careers.

“They can give you some history of what they have gone through and you try to give them a sense of what you know about Washington, D.C. to kind of give them that blanket of comfort to say, ‘Hey, when we release you out of the academy, we want you to be a well-rounded officer and have an understanding.’ There is so much Washington has to offer,” Coleman said.

You want me to concede a physical intervention on behalf of an ally would have escalated a non-violent situation. I explained to you in non dismissive tone that each encounter with the police is a life or death situation regardless of how non-violent it might seem to a white woman. I told you to have a good day and meant it. I said it was okay if we needed to agree to disagree. ***I gave you a chance to tell me what allyship look like to you****If you believe you are "trying", I'm unsure of what to tell you *shrugs*. What I will say is I don't feel like I need to take your barrage of questions when you've barely answered my questions, reflected on anything I've said etc all while taking your snide remarks in stride. Nah. Nevermind how problematic it is that you think police brutality isn't something we are striving to eradicate completely. The harsh reality is white women are okay with black citizens dying as long as a white men can convince you it's for the greater good. You will fall in line and lie if you must. I don't have room for that and I won't entertain it if I can avoid it. 



"Is also not nothing"



umm okay