My Sweet Petunia going after Stampin Up now.

Same here. I will buy overseas before I give her another cent!! 

Once she started having them manufactured in China with the same pricing maybe profits picked up for her. Isn’t the whole positioner thing slowing down now? Most of us have one or more. Even though Tonic agreed to stop manufacturing theirs they must have had a bazillion in stock. You can still buy those platforms online and now they are showing up at Tuesday Morning. If something innovative shows up in Europe I will buy there. It will have to be good because I have a lifetime supply of TH platforms, big and little, a Misti that hasn’t cracked yet, and the WRMK peg platform which is pretty crappy but works in a pinch.

She just needs to stop. Shes’s only making herself look worse and I thought that wasn’t possible. If she had just played nice a lot of us might have bought her products. All she ended up doing was increasing sales for Tonic since many of us chose their product over hers and even bought backups just in case ( I’ll admit to a regular and travel TH platform with backups for both).

Interesting. IMO the patent office were too lax in their research before approving MSP's patent. I'm sure they have a ton of applications, so maybe they feel pressured and rush the process. At any rate, I do hope Su fights it, but unless their lawyers know about the crustless sandwich issue, they'll probably cave like Tonic did.

I agree I feel they really missed researching her idea. I really hope SU pushes back hard, spends time on their research and does not roll over

I wish someone else with deep pockets would come out with one with some feature that just completely smokes all previous positioners and boots her out of the running. Don’t know what that would look like but..... Dreaming I guess.

I have no dog in this fight, but I do think the Petunia lady is being ridiculous since her “invention” was obviously a copy of someone else’s. My friend had a clear acrylic hinged stamp positioner from WAY back in the day (late 1980’s or early 90’s) that was manufactured by some stamp company (Mostly Animals, maybe?) and her thing could easily be a derivative of that.

Anyway, I Googled that phrase and this is the definition that popped up:

Since I’m no lawyer and don’t even pretend to be one on the interwebs, but I’d guess that it means SU filed a motion to have the case tossed. Since it was only done less than a month ago time will tell if they are successful. It will be interesting to see what comes of it.

Personally, I have one of the pink ones that my BFF’s mom had bought back before all this mess started, and I got it after she passed away. I’m paranoid that the plastic will crack, and since I do like how the thing works, I snapped up one of the TH travel platforms when Tuesday Morning had them a couple months back to have as a backup. I have a whole drawer full of the clear acrylic old style L positioners from way back when and I could certainly use them to pretty much do the exact same thing, but this is really so much easier so I hate to go back to that if I don’t have to.

Kind of looked like they were being granted more time to submit stuff but January 4th is the last thing I could find posted on Justia. Wonder if she will have a little harder time in Utah. Isn’t that Stampin Up’s home base?

I have not bought a MISTI. I have seen videos of it only.

I do have both sizes of the Tonic platform and love them. I was shocked that Tonic settled or worked out some arrangement with her, because I felt theirs was at least as different from the MISTI (or more so), as the MISTI was from the WRMK letterpress, but I could be wrong.

I recently bought the Stamparatus after hearing about the lawsuit, because I figured I might not be able to buy it later. In some ways it seems more similar to the MISTI than the Tonic version was. Both have a foam pad to accommodate clear stamps. Both use a paper grid. In other ways the two platforms are very different.

Regardless of the similarities or differences, her veteran status and her "prayer" for a ruling in her favor are not appropriate, especially if they were actually included in the court documents. Are they? Based on this thread, that is how it sounds. If so, I can imagine the eye rolling and head shaking of the lawyers and judges handling this case.

Actually, no. 'Prayer for relief' is not actually in conjunction with a religion. It is a common phrase used in the legal briefings.  Totally legal, totally normal and acceptable (and expected) in the legal world. 

OK Mom. Thanks for the info.

YT suggested this video about the lawsuit and stamp positioners. Sorry, I could get past the first little bit - too much rambling-with-hands for me, and too long (when she was 10 mins in and hadn't gotten to the point yet and was talking about "only" having half an hour I had to bail! sorry). And I honestly don't know where she was going with her re-doing of reviews - surely what you think is what you think, regardless of any lawsuits. I guess she was responding to attacks on her original review, but again, she didn't get to the point in the first 10 mins so I don't know.

So, anyway... I didn't watch it all but I did read the comments, and it's more of the same common sense arguments we've all made here.

Posting the video link in case anyone else wants to watch/read www.youtube.com/watch?v=N58YGnmTXU8

Ey, high five! I was wondering where you'd dropped off to. Pretty much abandoned Split Coast Stampers and am happier for it as well, having found my way successfully over to the Land of Sane Crafters Possessed of Common Sense. It's a breath of fresh air after SCS, let me tell you, the place is kinda stifling? And no worries, I hear you about the anxiety inducing nature; it's weird because I can't say I've found them overtly hostile, just ... a bit unreceptive to new viewpoints, if that makes sense. Like you just get mostly ignored if you don't echo the prevalent opinion, and should you offer proof that said conjecture is incorrect, then it's crickets. Until the next time the topic comes up and it's back to the good 'ol original True Facts (that may not be so true, or at least dubious.)

Here's a good video on how to make your own CD stamper. It's a 10 minute project at most, and should be easy enough for almost everyone with an average amount of hand dexterity/strength (due to pliers or a sharp blade being involved.)


If you don't want to watch the video, the whole thing can be summarized as thus:
1. Acquire a clear empty CD or DVD case. You want one of the standard thickness ones that are made of three pieces, not the ultra thin where the CD clip ring is moulded into the back of the case.
2. Remove the insert that formerly held the disk (it's usually black). It should pop out with a little mechanical persuasion.
3. Remove the booklet holder tabs and the side bumps that formerly held the case shut when closed, so the lid is free swinging.
4. Cut a piece of craft foam the same size as the case bottom leaving space for the lid to swing shut, and stick it down with double sided tape to the non-lid side. Add laminated grid paper should you desire.

And that's it. A stamp positioner that won't cost you more than a dollar or so and fits in a travel kit with ease.

I'm going to check out both of those videos; it's always helpful to stay up to date on the latest developments!

Embri thank you so much for the video and the tutorial.

I am so happy you like it over here. I thought you would. Every time you posted I was like "Oh, she is so 2Peas!"

There are my girls over at SCS who are like sisters to me. They have helped me through the worst possible things in my life with such love and devotion. I am a loyal to my girls. I have to check on them all the time and give them love. Some of them ask if I will go over and post to certain threads. I feel bad and I do, lol. I love them. The board gives me anxiety because I had some bad experiences over there. Girl's did you know the week I lost my child I got attacked by a member because I would not help her with her Cameo. I told her I lost my child, couldn't help her and she cussed me out. I sent the PM to Lydia who ignored it. To this day I keep thinking maybe Lydia didn't get it, but all the horror stories of late I am thinking she ignored it. My DH thinks Lydia ignored it. He tells me I have to much faith in people.

To my SCS girls now you know why I have been so effing off over there and acting not normal. I can't stop thinking about that every time I visit. I keep making other excuses. Which are really true and has happened. The sore is that one the most. That's why I posted November is hard on me the last time I did post over there. Can you believe its almost been a decade and I am still upset about it? Crazy!

No worries to the girls who are saying "Stop posting there!" This year's resolution is working on this loyalty thing and establishing this thing called comfortable boundaries.

I agree with you that the forum is very unreceptive to new viewpoints. I have struggled with that as an artist. I understand it's personality differences. That is a board of stampers who are classic. You look through the gallery and it is a lot of the same kind of style and that is fine. At the time when I joined it was the biggest stamping community in the industry. That's where everyone gravitated too and that's how you got all your news. When you are quirky and unique on a board full of classic stampers you are treated a bit like you don't belong. They probably don't want you to belong like us girls over here probably wouldn't like a certain group over here. Like I said it's all our forum personality. Nothing against the forum members. Thank gosh now for all the great social media choices we have now and that stampers don't have to depend on one forum etc....

Girls I am getting back to Misti. Lydia is best friends with the Misti owner. She is notoriously protective of her friend. I understand that and get it. I don't know if she's protective because she loves her or protective because she's scared to lose the monetization that Misti brings to SCS. I really hope it's love. Lydia's marketing is promoting kindness.

The Misti owner coming over here and threatening Don on our forum really negates what their marketing strategy is. Add the lawsuits on everyone and the spirit of kindness in the paper crafting world. Lydia allowing some members to bully other members because they are her friends and not providing protection on her board does not promote kindness in my opinion. You see all the time that so and so will tear a member to pieces but another person calls them on it and they are removed or banned. I don't find any of that kind. I don't understand how they find that kind to hurt other people so badly and hurt their feelings.

Here we go with all the Misti lawsuits when all they could do is work with these companies. None of these companies they are going after are going to turn around and attack them. They are all well known companies that are respected, loved and colloborate together in this industry. It's just mind boggling to me that this is all happening. The customer base own a lot of these platforms as multiples. Read the threads above of girls saying I have Tim's platform, & I am going to get the SU one. Other girls who say I have the Misti because it does this, I have Tim's because it does this, I have SU because it does this. These girls own three platforms. This industry we love to spend money.

My DH found for me that beautiful CTMH acrylic block set that came in the case. It was brand new! He paid $2.00 for it. I am telling you I was more excited about that case of blocks than any stamp positioner on the market, lol.