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Post by cbet on Jan 14, 2019 20:10:48 GMT
I wondered what Lydia’s stance was going to be when the Stamparatus came out. I thought she cooled her jets a bit on the Misti by saying less about positioners in general but I don’t read any of the Misti sponsored posts or any of those discussing Stampin Up so I guess not. I unsubbed her blog. I unsubbed her blog, too. Just to make sure I wasn't mistaken about her being a SU demo, I went back today and clicked the Stampin' Up tag, and the last time she used it (the tag) was back in February. And I think as long as your blog isn't linked to your SU selling site, they're ok with it. I watched the video that you linked and it nearly drove me crazy. Way too many words about nothing and too much hand waving and flapping. And in the end, it was about people who disagreed with her comparison of the Tim Holtz platform vs the WRMK one with the pegs. No one will ever get everyone to agree on anything; just stand by your opinion and own it. |
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Post by gale w on Jan 14, 2019 21:10:52 GMT
I hate that some loyal members are becoming disenchanted with SCS but glad to know it's not just me. Apparently I angered the powers that be because I was soft-banned. I can read and still access the demo forums but can't post anymore. After 10K posts over at least 10-12 yrs and as far as I know, I was never nasty to anyone.
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Post by minniemay on Jan 15, 2019 8:03:31 GMT
I joined this discussion board because I needed to let off some steam about MSP. I've had it with her and her bullying tactics. How can she keep getting away with this? I can see her going after Hampton Arts because that was nearly an exact copy. But the Tim Holtz and Stamparatus platforms are completely different. I refuse to buy anything from this woman even if it means ordering a stamp platform from the UK, which will still be much cheaper than that over priced pencil box she's selling.
By the way hello everyone. I'm new here, was a lurker but finally broke down and joined, thanks to that bully who's ticked me off!
I'm here in Georgia. I do scrapbooking, card making and photography as a hobby.
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Post by Embri on Jan 15, 2019 9:05:48 GMT
What surprised me was that legitimate criticism posts regarding art theft got deleted on SCS. Understandable nobody wants their forum turning into a witch hunt but when it's pretty obvious there's illegal activity going on... it gets hard to maintain 'sunshine and roses'. I get the same feeling about MSP over there, the brand is highly entrenched just like Stampin' Up. I find that kind of loyalty somewhat bewildering. It'd be one thing if the product was the best on the market, or the best value, but neither of those seems to be true.
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Post by cbet on Jan 15, 2019 16:18:19 GMT
What surprised me was that legitimate criticism posts regarding art theft got deleted on SCS. Understandable nobody wants their forum turning into a witch hunt but when it's pretty obvious there's illegal activity going on... it gets hard to maintain 'sunshine and roses'. I get the same feeling about MSP over there, the brand is highly entrenched just like Stampin' Up. I find that kind of loyalty somewhat bewildering. It'd be one thing if the product was the best on the market, or the best value, but neither of those seems to be true. I get the SU loyalty there; the forum was originally started by a Stampin' Up demo for her downline (and maybe customers?) and it grew like crazy. Back in the day, there were some posters who got all handslappy whenever you suggested any product that wasn't Stampin' Up, but the owners of the site flat out said it was a-ok by them. Never could figure out, though, what the value was for a company to become one of their "platinum partners". If a company wasn't one of the partners and you had a great customer service post about them, everyone got to read it. If you posted kudos to one of the partners, the mods moved the post to the partner forum, and if you had those posts turned off, you never saw it. To my thinking, you got much better advertising by not being a partner! Probably part of the reason that Gina K and Papertrey both ended their partnership. As for MSP, I really don't get the love. The product itself was a good idea and seemed quite original, until you researched it a bit. I still can't quite figure out how she got her patent. It reminds me of when Spellbinders sued QuicKutz over dies with open centers because Spellbinders had patented them and QuicKutz had been making them before Spellbinders and did not patent them because there were already dies of that type used somewhere (maybe in envelope manufacturing? Don't remember.) Spellbinders not only lost their lawsuit, they lost their patent. I keep thinking that one of these lawsuits has to result in something similar happening to MSP. |
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Post by brenda89 on Jan 15, 2019 17:15:25 GMT
Lydia is no longer a SU demo. She left due to the Stamparatus coming out (if I'm remembering correctly).  |
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Post by gale w on Jan 15, 2019 17:42:12 GMT
Lydia is no longer a SU demo. She left due to the Stamparatus coming out (if I'm remembering correctly). wow. That's some unhealthy motivation. |
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Post by Embri on Jan 15, 2019 18:54:01 GMT
Money tends to be a very powerful motivator. You can blanket your product in bible verses, but it won't make me believe this is about anything but profits.
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Post by riley on Jan 15, 2019 23:50:24 GMT
Wow surprised she left Stampin Up. Looked like she had quite a little posse attending local workshops and retreats. I unsubbed her blog before this happened. Did she announce? I don’t keep up with SCS much except in the tools and techniques perusing. Seems like there aren’t too many Platinum Partners left.
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Post by brenda89 on Jan 16, 2019 17:14:47 GMT
I think it was around the end of June 2018. That's when there was a post on Splitcoast Demo forum about it.
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Post by riversong1963 on Jan 18, 2019 1:07:13 GMT
Ah, so is that why SCS no longer monitors the sale of SU products in the BST forum? I thought something must have happened, but I didn't know what. Now it makes sense.
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Post by marg on Jan 18, 2019 1:32:45 GMT
I joined this discussion board because I needed to let off some steam about MSP. I've had it with her and her bullying tactics. How can she keep getting away with this? I can see her going after Hampton Arts because that was nearly an exact copy. But the Tim Holtz and Stamparatus platforms are completely different. I refuse to buy anything from this woman even if it means ordering a stamp platform from the UK, which will still be much cheaper than that over priced pencil box she's selling. By the way hello everyone. I'm new here, was a lurker but finally broke down and joined, thanks to that bully who's ticked me off! I'm here in Georgia. I do scrapbooking, card making and photography as a hobby. Hi minnimay, welcome to the board. I'm not sure if you've posted here since this post, but just in case I thought I'd welcome you. It's a fun little message board here. |
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Post by riley on Jan 18, 2019 1:33:22 GMT
I saw that announcement also. So that means a retired demo can now sell all her huge Stampin Up stash even though it’s not discontinued merchandise. Discontinued used to be the rule. Wow, what timing.
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Post by riversong1963 on Jan 18, 2019 14:31:58 GMT
And I believe that Lydia is on Petunia's design team as well.
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Post by cbet on Jan 18, 2019 18:25:26 GMT
I saw that announcement also. So that means a retired demo can now sell all her huge Stampin Up stash even though it’s not discontinued merchandise. Discontinued used to be the rule. Wow, what timing. Yeah - used to be discontinued only, even if you were never a demo! Nice to be the king and be able to change the rules to suit yourself. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 10:28:06 GMT
I didn't know Lydia left SU. That's why her blog of late has been so heavy with other products. How do you think the other members of SCS are going to feel about that? The board was originally SU and it's very SU dominant. Once the lawsuit rumors come out over at SCS the SU demo's are not going to like it, understandably. I know some in the stamping community do not visit SCS since it's always been SU heavy. Not that they had hate against that. It was just that they wanted forums that were more diverse. I do understand if Lydia wanted to change the board to be more diverse. Really, let's face it most of the board is covered with Misti logo's. We were all bringing that up before the lawsuits came out. I remember even teasing over at SCS that it was going to become the MISTI board. I don't know this is not the wisest decision of hers in the world. It's her board, her marketing, her rules, her friends. I can still be flummoxed, lol. I do predict more SU demo's will leave her forum. I never got the Platinum Partnership either. When I got back into stamping there was a lovely lady that ran a newsletter that listed several stamping companies a month and their deals. I lived for that newsletter. I think we had to pay a $1.00 for it. We could get the best stamp sales from that newsletter. Oh, the companies I found!!!!! She had to stop the newsletter due to illness. Does anyone remember that? I hope she's doing better. I use to pour over my RubberStampMadness magazines taking down detailed notes of stamping companies. OMG! The beautiful stamps I was gathering then. I joined SCS and never heard about any of those companies. That was truly one of the most confusing things for me when I joined that site. I never said anything because I thought it was a no-no. I really wanted to know where the lists were, lol and what the heck is a Platinum Partnership? The site is very trendy so I just thought that was it. I am an art stamper and I live for variety of stamp companies. gale w I still will never ever understand why she soft banned you. You were not nasty to anyone. minniemay Welcome and no more lurking. We love to have you. |
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Post by riversong1963 on Jan 19, 2019 15:27:08 GMT
I don't believe that Lydia owns SCS. She's the main moderator, so she manages it. I was almost kicked off a few times for daring to disagree about her favorite companies/people. I didn't say "nice" things about them. I also blasted someone who called one of my friends in real life and on SCS a schemer and a liar. Lydia deleted my posts and threatened to suspend me. But the other woman's posts weren't deleted. Different rules for different people.
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Post by marg on Jan 19, 2019 16:02:16 GMT
Once the lawsuit rumors come out over at SCS the SU demo's are not going to like it, understandably. I'm a member of the Demo Only Board over there and so far no one has mentioned the lawsuit. I don't know if that's because they don't know about it, or if the posts get removed. I only read there and never post, otherwise I'd mention it. The board is so slow now, I think they've lost a lost of members. |
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Post by riley on Jan 19, 2019 17:20:14 GMT
I do read there and the lawsuit is nowhere to be found. Seems odd. They talk about everything else. I have enough stamp positioners of the non Misti sort I don’t have to worry about ever running out. Maybe people just don’t care anymore now that they are loaded up with various brands. It does seem lately though that she is gathering steam again. I’m not seeing any of the designers using TH anymore. I wonder what Tim will use in his stamp demos at Creativation, blocks I guess.
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Post by Embri on Jan 19, 2019 18:49:27 GMT
Sometimes silence speaks louder than words.
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Post by gale w on Jan 19, 2019 18:51:50 GMT
I find it hard to believe in a community that big that no one would mention it. I believe any talk about the lawsuit is being deleted.
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Post by riversong1963 on Jan 19, 2019 18:53:39 GMT
Sometimes silence speaks louder than words. You are so right about that. Everyone who knows me knows that when I'm quiet, that's when you have to worry. |
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Post by Embri on Jan 20, 2019 3:11:15 GMT
I also think this instance alludes to an enforced silence. Sometimes things are more notable - and worrisome - by their absence than their presence. It doesn't pass the sniff test that nobody at all would have brought it up, given how MISTI and Stampin' Up focused SplitCoast is. Not impossible, but rather improbable.
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Post by riley on Jan 20, 2019 3:42:44 GMT
Smells like tuna to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 8:17:17 GMT
WOW LYDIA DOES NOT OWN SCS? That just made my mouth drop open because I was told by a mod that she did. I asked a benign question one time to a mod and she told me to ask Lydia because she was the owner. That is just shocking. riversong you floored me, lol. Lydia is sure running that board like she owns it. I have made jokes in the past I post at the board with blinders on. I am realizing I really did now. If Lydia is moderating I am sorry to say she really does not have a right to be heavy handed in how she is moderating by banning members, deleting posts and allowing other bullying posts. Truthfully, she can get the owner of the board sued. I use to own and run forums. I had a couple of heavy handed mods. One of the reasons I don't own forums anymore. I was feeling like I needed to do massive job interviews and security checks to find good mods.
If she doesn't own the forum who does? Do they know what she is doing?
I do think she is deleting the SU demo lawsuit news. You girls know how close and Mother Bear all the demo's are over there. I meant that as a compliment. You know any SU news, especially if it's controversial always gets big threads. This does effect the demo's in a big way. It makes you wonder how many are a little leery of demo'ing the press with the knowledge of the Misti's owner history of harassment.
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Post by gale w on Jan 20, 2019 9:06:33 GMT
SCS is owned by a company called Internet Brands. I believe they bought it back in 2010 or 2011. Somewhere around that time. eta: apparently 2010. I found this in a quick search. |
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Post by riley on Jan 22, 2019 19:29:43 GMT
No new Misti yet despite long ago hype. That Misti scoring ruler at Creativationn for 20. was a non starter for me.
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Post by scrapnnana on Jan 22, 2019 19:48:41 GMT
No new Misti yet despite long ago hype. That Misti scoring ruler at Creativationn for 20. was a non starter for me. I thought they were teaming up with Tonic and/or Tim Holtz to make a stamp platform for the U.S., but I have not heard anything more. Not that it matters to me, anyway. I have both sizes of the TH platform, and the SU Stamparatus, so I'm good. As for SCS, I was unfamiliar with most of what has gone on over there. I used to post occasionally on the forum, but not often. It makes me sad to see what has happened to SCS. I mainly loved them for their tutorials. |
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Post by riversong1963 on Jan 22, 2019 20:40:06 GMT
I used to really like SCS, but it hasn't been the same since Lydia took over running things. Her heavy-handed moderating, bullying, and hand-slapping have created a stifling and confining atmosphere, and it isn't a fun place anymore. You have to watch what you say, and about whom you say it. I read some of the posts to keep up with the stamping world - at least the part that's allowed. And I'm still an active member of the BRAK Committee (Birthday Random Acts of Kindness), because I like making cards for others.
I won't share anything in the Gallery, though, because I recently found out that anyone on SCS can send anyone else's Gallery images as their own e-card. Not acceptable to me, although I am definitely in the minority about that over there. I deleted almost my entire Gallery, because I don't like the idea of someone else using images of my cards to send to their friends and family. I know that when you post something on the Internet, you really don't have control of what people do with it, but SCS has made it so easy, with the click of a button. That would have been a good thing to make people aware of before they posted anything. It's so hypocritical. "Don't 'steal' certain people's ideas, but go ahead and send all the Gallery images you want that aren't yours!"
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Post by riley on Jan 22, 2019 21:50:01 GMT
It’s like nobody will say anything over there anymore. That Misti ruler thing came out and dead silence but they have discussed every other video of every other main participator. There is one poster from the UK who posts videos and good tips over there that are different from what we get in the US. I’ll just sub her blog and a couple of others. I really don’t support this Misti is the only brand we can promote atmosphere.
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