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Post by pixiechick on Feb 21, 2022 5:42:36 GMT
I'm aware of that but you liked her post. Your statements about the Black Lives matter protests are not valid because you were not there. See how that works? You know perfectly well that attendance at an event is not a prerequisite to have a valid point or discussion, especially when it can be backed up by credible sources. You're just encouraging her which I why I called you out. Except I was told in 2020 that it was. That if I had never been there, I can't judge by the pictures and video that they provided as evidence -that did not show what they claimed. and Axios also did not back them up and neither did the police report. But I had never been there so all evidence that THEY PROVIDED was to be dismissed and only those that were So I, and maybe she was just going by the rules set forth by the Left in 2020.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 21, 2022 5:18:36 GMT
No, at :45 it shows the horse colliding with the guy, not the guy colliding with the horse. The horse has very clear forward movement. That aside, what is very telling is that there was more outrage over horse reins being twirled 6ish feet away from a young guy actively breaking the law at the border than there is for a horse knocking over an elderly woman with a walker. Very telling. So much humanity being displayed by the left. So, now you want to make the absolute distinction that the HORSE collided with the MAN. Ok. I’ll give you that, ya toddler. How about THEY COLLIDED. Nobody was TRAMPLED. Elderly? Please show where it said that she’s elderly. Because I read that she’s in her late 40s. Keep throwing in those red herrings. I know how much you love doing that. So she wasn't elderly, that makes knocking people down with horses insignificant, while twirling reins near someone but not making contact is horrific and inexcusable . Remind me again, what ever happened with the results of the "investigation"?
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 21, 2022 5:05:30 GMT
Yes, they collided with the horses and yes, they fell. No, at :45 it shows the horse colliding with the guy, not the guy colliding with the horse. The horse has very clear forward movement. That aside, what is very telling is that there was more outrage over horse reins being twirled 6ish feet away from a young guy actively breaking the law at the border than there is for a horse knocking over an elderly woman with a walker. Very telling. So much humanity being displayed by the left. BTW, what ever happened with the results of that "investigation"?
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 21, 2022 4:38:16 GMT
youtu.be/UL4oESTTBu8?t=836And if by alternate account, you mean that I have more than one account, I do not. I explained in my other thread that I much prefer to just read these boards not write on them. I jumped in on the protest thread because there was so much false information being given that I felt compelled to correct it. Ha Ha. That's funny. The only one posting false information, misinformation and disinformation is you. That's already been proven untrue.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 21, 2022 3:53:49 GMT
They say a single picture is worth a thousand words. And in this case it was. It showed a kid with a smirk on his face standing almost toe to toe with and elderly Native American beating a drum while his buddies were in the background laughing. What that picture showed me was a racist punk being deliberately disrespectful to another individual. And his buddies in the background laughing knew exactly what he was doing. One photo deliberately taken out of context is what you have based your opinion on, despite the reality of it being put in context more than 3 years ago. What you saw was a clip from an over 2 hour video. from WCPO 9 - 21 Jan 2019from The Alt-Right MSM CBS - Jan 21, 2019 Your personally most favorite news source, Tucker Carlson on Fox News - 14 Jan 2020 on CNN's settlementYou are right here and right now a source of great MISINFORMATION about a minor! But hey, these news sources carefully check all of the material they publish and are to be trusted more than your own eyes and ears. This.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 21, 2022 0:50:45 GMT
She gave her opinion based on a photo in the moment. She knows it’s opinion. When she claims it's a fact, I don't think she does. And I assure you, I knew about stolen valor well before I ever heard of Nathan Phillips.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 21, 2022 0:46:55 GMT
Says a person who never actually went to the protest. Pixiechick, next time you post something I will remind you that your statement is not valid because you weren't there. Your statements about Sandmann are not valid because you were not there. See how that works? You are not quoting me.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 21, 2022 0:39:01 GMT
Yes CNN, NBC, the Washington Post, and how many other so called "reliable sources" had to pay Nicholas Sandmann millions? for vilifying him with out of context clipped videos. They knew there was more to the video and they did it anyway. I had to look up who Nicholas Sandman was. And the I saw that famous picture that spread across social media. They say a single picture is worth a thousand words. And in this case it was. It showed a kid with a smirk on his face standing almost toe to toe with and elderly Native American beating a drum while his buddies were in the background laughing. What that picture showed me was a racist punk being deliberately disrespectful to another individual. And his buddies in the background laughing knew exactly what he was doing. IMO the news agencies should not have settled. But what they had to prove was a sixteen year old kid who goes a Catholic School was indeed a racist punk so it was a business decision on their part to settle. But that doesn’t change the fact that picture defined his character and that he is indeed a racist. Who got away with something. That's an opinion, not a fact. You base your opinion on a picture that you created the meaning of IN YOUR HEAD. You can have your own opinion, you can't have your own facts. Hmmm, where have I heard that before. The fact is the Native American, Nathan Phillips, committed stolen valor AND he has done this very thing before. To a group of college kids who were in their own backyard and the police discredited his claim then too. My opinion is, based on his need for the spotlight (shown by his stolen valor) he saw some kids in MAGA hats and viewed it as an opportunity. And the VIDEO (not a picture that you can create your own scenario from) the FULL VIDEO showed what actually happened.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 21, 2022 0:21:22 GMT
Now people have been there and seen for themselves and it's still dismissed as not THE correct opinion because being there and seeing for yourself is NOW not proof enough. Are you at all comprehending what people are seeing you doing here? Going by what you've insisted on previously and now you flip flop on your standards when it suits your narrative. NO way am I going to go back through that whole shit show thread to find it, but I have read it all, and there were a couple of people who live in Ottawa who were very adamant about saying what was happening was NOT always peaceful protests. Yet those of you who want to pretend that it was/is completely ignored them, just kept digging in your heels about how it is peaceful there and nothing that is happening is wrong. So now one person posts something that fits your beliefs, so you are all over that. What about the others who live there who posted a view that doesn't match yours? I was commenting on the flip flop in standards and nothing more. From being required by the Left to be at a place and see it first hand in order to have an opinion -to the flip flop of NOW the standard of being there isn't proof enough (now that the previous standard doesn't work when applied to the left's narrative). Hmmm, I can't imagine why leftturnonly doesn't want to try and discuss with anyone here.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 23:52:43 GMT
Yes and in one instance it was fought against to the death and then when they couldn't deny it anymore, the goal posts were moved. OK. Was it on your current persona? Can you link us to it? I have a street hockey game to organize. I thought you had to go?
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 23:43:31 GMT
Since you had such a hard time "understanding" the point... In a nutshell... You and your buddies have said in response to every single correction of DISINFORMATION or understanding of where someone was coming from, that it LITERALLY "meant you were excusing" whatever the issue was. So, you can't say NOW that it doesn't mean that when applied to your statements. Not without being a raging hypocrite. Are you claiming you've corrected disinformation at some point?? Yes and in one instance it was fought against to the death and then when they couldn't deny it anymore, the goal posts were moved.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 23:36:18 GMT
I'll remind you that, no matter how you twist it, being able to understand why someone does something is not the same as excusing it. Since you had such a "hard time" understanding the point... In a nutshell... You and your buddies have said in response to every single correction of DISINFORMATION or understanding of where someone was coming from, that it LITERALLY "meant you were excusing" whatever the issue was. So, you can't say NOW that it doesn't mean that when applied to your statements. Not without being a raging hypocrite.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 23:26:30 GMT
Yes CNN, NBC, the Washington Post, and how many other so called "reliable sources" had to pay Nicholas Sandmann millions? for vilifying him with out of context clipped videos. They knew there was more to the video and they did it anyway. You must have a really good inside source, since the terms of the settlements were not made public. And obviously in the history of litigation, no entity has ever settled with a complainant just because it's cheaper than going to court. It's always because they're totes guilty. No one has ever filed a lawsuit hoping for just such an outcome. Nope, you were replying to me.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 23:17:51 GMT
Yes CNN, NBC, the Washington Post, and how many other so called "reliable sources" had to pay Nicholas Sandmann millions ? for vilifying him with out of context clipped videos. They knew there was more to the video and they did it anyway. You must have a really good inside source, since the terms of the settlements were not made public. And obviously in the history of litigation, no entity has ever settled with a complainant just because it's cheaper than going to court. It's always because they're totes guilty. No one has ever filed a lawsuit hoping for just such an outcome. I guess you missed the ? you quoted. The one indicating a guess.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 23:14:54 GMT
I'll remind you that, no matter how you twist it, being able to understand why someone does something is not the same as excusing it. There's that pesky double standard again. I'll remind you that has LITERALLY been the standard of you and your buddies for at least more than a decade now. So you can't NOW claim it isn't. Your above quoted statement doesn't hold even a single drop of water. Any time someone (anyone) corrected disinformation, it was claimed as defending whatever the issue of the moment was. It either applies across the board- even to you, or it doesn't apply at all.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 23:10:09 GMT
I'll remind you that, no matter how you twist it, being able to understand why someone does something is not the same as excusing it. There's that pesky double standard again. I'll remind you that has been the standard by you and your buddies for at least more than a decade, so you can't NOW deny that it isn't the same as excusing it. Because after years of saying it IS the same, your quoted statement above doesn't hold a single drop of water. Every single correction of disinformation, was dismissed because it literally "meant you were excusing" whatever the issue was. So either that applies across the board, or it doesn't apply at all.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 22:57:02 GMT
Mainstream media isn't dependable anymore. You have to use social media to see things for yourself. That's a pretty broad statement now...and are you suggesting that random people on SM don't have bias, specific angles, agendas etc? Certainly there's a lot to point out when it comes to certain news channels etc! Yes CNN, NBC, the Washington Post, and how many other so called "reliable sources" had to pay Nicholas Sandmann millions? for vilifying him with out of context clipped videos. They knew there was more to the video and they did it anyway.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 22:40:39 GMT
The right to protest does not equal the right to shut down all movement in a major city for weeks, nor to deny its citizens the quiet enjoyment of their own private homes with excessive noise and diesel fumes. Violence doesn’t have to equal looting and shooting. It can look like a long-term occupation in the streets of a major city. Perhaps some of the protestors are not white nationalists, but they are happily taking funding and support from those who are. Perhaps some have legitimate reasons to remain unvaccinated, but they are taking money and support from people who have promoted conspiracy theories and outright falsehoods about vaccines, to the detriment (and sometimes death) of millions. If they want to convince people their cause is just, taking money from charlatans, grifters, and criminals is not the way to do it. Their funding is dirty and they are all tainted by it, as well as by their own actions. Oh and as to their feeding anyone who comes by - you know who else feeds people and provides aid to those who need it? Hamas. Well-recognized terrorist organization in the Middle East. So that argument doesn’t really hold up. Your truckers there are being funded by white nationalists and wannabe terrorists, are keeping the peaceful citizens of Ottawa from their daily business and a presumably a decent night’s sleep, and are using some of the money to feed deluded looky-loos who walk by. Yay. Very impressive. David Dorn shot to death for defending his friend's pawn shop. Another pawn shop burned down with Oscar Stewart a father of 5, inside. A father of 5, dead. A federal courthouse burned, a police station run out of a community that needed it. A building with people locked inside and set on fire. People hunted down and shot. People having their skulls bashed in for helping someone avoid being beaten. Hundreds of police attacked with rocks and bricks and molotov cocktails, hundreds injured. Looting, trashing, burning and destroy all the businesses, many of them black owned. Billions in damages across the country. You're one that EXCUSED, deflected and dismissed the violence, death and destruction of 2020 when you agreed with the protest.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 22:07:20 GMT
aj2hall - don't think we didn't notice you going back and editing your previous incorrect post. Why not just admit your mistake instead of pretending you didn't say what you did? Oh it’s a gotcha alt account. How quaint. WTH are you even talking about?
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 21:52:58 GMT
I was told in the Trump supporters blocking voters thread that unless I've been to the location myself I couldn't possibly have an opinion. Despite the pictures "you" provided as proof not showing what you claimed and the police on the scene saying it wasn't happening. The claim was, I had to have been to the location to have THE correct opinion. Now people have been there and seen for themselves and it's still dismissed as not THE correct opinion because being there and seeing for yourself is NOW not proof enough. Are you at all comprehending what people are seeing you doing here? Going by what you've insisted on previously and now you flip flop on your standards when it suits your narrative. I’m going to assume you understand the difference between proving that something IS happening by showing video evidence of it happening, and trying to prove something isn’t happening by showing selective video of places where it isn’t happening while ignoring those where it is. I’m going to choose to believe you understand that, and you’re being argumentative for fun. The alternative is that you’re stupid. But I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt. I'm going to assume you understand that you haven't disputed the double standard here AT ALL and haven't convinced anyone otherwise. I'm going to assume you know that what you have said is pure and utter bullshit, given the situations compared and doesn't explain the double standard - even a little bit. I'm going to choose to believe you understand and are just applying some half-assed, unbelievable justification and that we all can see right through it. The alternative is that you're divorced from reality. But I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 21:35:14 GMT
zima threw quite a hissy fit at mandolyn9909 because she expressed an opinion not favorable to vaccine mandates. Then the ridiculous clothing comparison. Seriously, humans have worn clothing for about 150,000 years and public nudity is illegal pretty much everywhere but to zima, wearing clothing in public is the same as being forced to take an injection in order to keep your job and if you don't agree with her you're a hypocrite. Then Merge with her anger issues towards everyone who doesn't agree with her 100%. So much hostility towards someone in Canada who is just sharing her personal experience on a thread where people are being asked to share their personal experience about what's going on in Canada. The problem isn’t that she’s expressing her opinion or perspective. If that was all she was sharing, the discussion would be different. The problem is that she’s spreading misinformation or disinformation like the false claim that a woman was trampled by a horse and killed. Also her claim that the covid vaccine is not actually a vaccine is completely false. The problem is that she’s spreading misinformation or disinformation like the false claim that a woman was trampled by a horse and killed. Where did she say that? I don't think she did.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 21:25:55 GMT
You’re entitled to your own opinion, but not your own set of facts. Lots of facts about the protest have been well established through multiple, credible sources. The protest may have started as anti-mandate but expanded and now includes people and money from far right conspiracy groups, anti-vaxxers, white supremecist, anti-government, far right extremists etc. And there are not millions of people involved. Estimates are around 5,000 - 10,000 people. Also, only 2/3 of Canadians support the blockade. The number of locals that support them is significantly lower. The truckers and people that joined them are still a small but vocal minority. Also, only 2/3 of Canadians support the blockade. Only?
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 21:07:45 GMT
Nobody is going for 100%. They are going for mandated vaccines for SOME PROFESSIONS and/or in some instances based on the science and weighing of pros/cons. Not based on your uninformed opinion. Why am I uninformed but you are informed? Lol Do you feel that anyone who doesn’t agree with you or the government just in general is uninformed? Based on what they say, that seems to be the standard applied across the board.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 20:59:53 GMT
Every time some random individual says they went down there for themselves and “saw what was happening,” I think of this cartoon. I was told in the Trump supporters blocking voters thread that unless I've been to the location myself I couldn't possibly have an opinion. Despite the pictures "you" provided as proof not showing what you claimed and the police on the scene saying it wasn't happening. The claim was, I had to have been to the location to have THE correct opinion. Now people have been there and seen for themselves and it's still dismissed as not THE correct opinion because being there and seeing for yourself is NOW not proof enough. Are you at all comprehending what people are seeing you doing here? Going by what you've insisted on previously and now you flip flop on your standards when it suits your narrative.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 20:34:03 GMT
Comparing wearing clothes with mandating injecting drugs into your body? Until we see the government mandate surgically attaching your clothes, this is an absolutely perfect example of a false comparison. Apples to oranges. Nope. Mandates about what you have to do w your body. Going by the standard taught here, it is an absolute perfect example of a false comparison. Mandating wearing clothes is not even remotely the same as mandating that drugs be injected into your body. Going by what you've insisted on previously. But keep showing how even you won't adhere to the standards you demand from others.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 20, 2022 19:46:52 GMT
. I am fully vaccinated but believe mandates are government overreach. I am so f#($*(ING sick and tired of hearing the "I'm for vaccines but against mandates" when you keep forgetting to add the last part "I'm against mandates IN A PANDEMIC!!!!!" Tell me, how do you feel about the MANDATE that people wear clothes in public?!?!? Why should we have to?!?!? OUR BODIES - right?!!!? Comparing wearing clothes with mandating injecting drugs into your body? Until we see the government mandate surgically attaching your clothes, this is an absolutely perfect example of a false comparison. Apples to oranges.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 19, 2022 7:15:10 GMT
I haven’t even opened the trucker thread. Is it a requirement that I read all 800 (or whatever) pages of that thread in order to see the answer to a question asked in this one? And btw OP, my answer to the question in the title of this thread is, they’re mostly gone. We scared them off by asking too many hard questions. I have no idea where on that thread her answer is, but my guess - after the question why is it OK for unvaccinated white truckers to cross the border but not migrants and refugees on the southern border? Or, why are the conservatives not losing their collective sh*T over that? Cindosha referred to migrants and refugees with racial slurs, pixiechick defended her and accused everyone of dehumanizing poor cindosha. The answer was something along the lines of the liberals are mean, so the conservatives are not going to answer difficult questions. The conservatives don't hesitate to criticize President Biden over everything but crickets every time the Republicans do something horrific to destroy our democracy. They post their own gotcha threads and deliberately leave out critical information but get mad when they think liberals are posting gotcha questions. Basically, their expectation is they can do whatever they want but they expect everyone else to play fair, play by the rules and be nice. The Republican playbook - it's OK if you're a Republican. All of it reminds me of the criticism that Democrats were not sympathetic enough to poor unvaccinated Republicans. After their selfish refusal to get vaccinated, careless disregard for everyone around them, Democrats are supposed to ignore that and treat them with kid gloves. Cindosha referred to migrants and refugees with racial slurs, bragged about not wearing a mask, basically didn't care if anyone around her became infected with covid, we're all going to get it etc. In spite of all of that, the liberals are expected to be nice to her. And we're dehumanizing her if we say anything mean. That's my interpretation. But, I'm sure pixiechick will let you know why I'm wrong and why I'm a terrible person. Cindosha referred to migrants and refugees with racial slurs, pixiechick defended her Nope. Did no such thing. They post their own gotcha threads and deliberately leave out critical information Yet you do NOT hold the same standards for you and your buddies. Cindosha referred to migrants and refugees with racial slurs, bragged about not wearing a mask, basically didn't care if anyone around her became infected with covid, we're all going to get it etc. In spite of all of that, the liberals are expected to be nice to her. And we're dehumanizing her if we say anything mean. The fact is, you were strutting your moral high ground with your condemnation of dehumanizing illegal immigrants as a group, all while you were dehumanizing specific people, personally. That's my interpretation. The reality of what was said vs. your twisted "interpretation"... Regardless of their legal status or actions, they deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. Referring to immigrants and migrants strictly by their legal status - that word alone - is not OK. The phrase "shipping them" like they're cargo is also unacceptable. The phrase "China virus" is also unacceptable. Regardless of differing opinion the people here on this board ALSO deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. But you have no problem calling them trolls and sealions and bullying them. All efforts to dehumanize someone simply because you don't agree with them, or like the facts they bring to the board. You are selective with your outrage and only selectively treating deserving people with the dignity and respect you demand from and for others.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 19, 2022 7:10:56 GMT
I haven’t even opened the trucker thread. Is it a requirement that I read all 800 (or whatever) pages of that thread in order to see the answer to a question asked in this one? Where ARE all the peas who were so mad about the destruction of property at the George Floyd demonstrations? They're all probably still waiting for any of you to give a shit when the same damn thing was happening back in 2020 when riots broke out during protests that you agreed with. Burning buildings with people in them was dismissed back then and anyone that brought it up was demeaned and silenced. NOW you expect anyone to come and discuss this with you? Wow And btw OP, my answer to the question in the title of this thread is, they’re mostly gone. We scared them off by asking too many hard questions. No, the ACTUAL issue is that you don't accept opinions or even verifiable facts that go against the group think, so they damn near ALL gave up. And "you" do SO MANY things like bring the subject of the 2020 riots to a trucker thread in the form of a question and when people answer, you work in tag team style to smack down the answer with such things as 'don't talk about the 2020 riots on the trucker thread'. Yeah, we "bully" them by making them substantiate their bs claims. You bully them by never accepting ANY substantiated facts or opinions and shame them for trying to be involved in the discussion. You bully them by calling them names, dehumanize them in so many ways, and shame them for not going along with THE ONE ACCEPETED narrative of the moment.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 19, 2022 3:54:16 GMT
but I crack a tooth now just thinking about them. That! Last time I had some was from a fun candy store in Chicago about 12 years ago.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 19, 2022 3:30:51 GMT
Where are the cries of "LOCK HIM UP!!" kwim!?!?!? Yep. I think I asked this last week...where are all of the "LOCK HER UP!!!" people now? They don't comment, so I take that to mean that they don't give a shit. Hypocrites. All of them. This same type of "gotcha" question was asked in the trucker protest thread. It was answered. And then the truth of the answer was dismissed and the people answering were demonized and bullied and the attempt was made to run someone off the board. THAT'S why no one will answer this very obvious question. They see how the actual answer will be received.
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