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Post by pixiechick on Jul 14, 2021 19:42:48 GMT
"It's important that we totally protect our Asian community in the US and all around the world. They're amazing people and the spreading of the virus is not their fault, in any way shape or form. They are working closely with us to get rid of it. We will prevail together. It's very important.” -Trump Let’s compare that to what President Biden said after 6 Asian Americans were murdered in Atlanta and the actions he took. Which sounds like a stronger condemnation? www.npr.org/2021/03/30/982736783/biden-announces-new-steps-to-tackle-anti-asian-violence-and-discrimination"As President Biden said during his first prime time address, anti-Asian violence and xenophobia is wrong, it's un-American, and it must stop." www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/03/30/fact-sheet-president-biden-announces-additional-actions-to-respond-to-anti-asian-violence-xenophobia-and-bias/ “Too many Asian Americans have been walking up and down the streets and worrying, waking up each morning the past year feeling their safety and the safety of their loved ones are at stake. They’ve been attacked, blamed, scapegoated, and harassed. They’ve been verbally assaulted, physically assaulted, killed… The conversation we had today with the AAPI leaders, and that we’re hearing all across the country, is that hate and violence often hide in plain sight. And it’s often met with silence. That’s been true throughout our history, but that has to change — because our silence is complicity. We cannot be complicit. We have to speak out. We have to act.” – President Joe Biden, March 19, 2021 And don’t forget that Trump may have said that but he also continued to refer to covid as the China Virus and kung Flu Virus. The tone, tenor and context of how he said it was clearly racist. As president, he had an obligation to call out the racism and anti - Asian violence but never did, This is what you said. Let's not move the goal posts now.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 14, 2021 19:41:05 GMT
So we've officially moved on to the 'You have backed up all of your opinions with the facts you base them on, you have undeniably disproven all of the claims that you got it wrong, so all we have left is personal attacks portion of the discussion.' "It's important that we totally protect our Asian community in the US and all around the world. They're amazing people and the spreading of the virus is not their fault, in any way shape or form. They are working closely with us to get rid of it. We will prevail together. It's very important." -Trump Yes, I did by showing that your statement that they were only reporting that he said, not saying it themselves, is completely and utterly false. Not a personal attack by me.. I truly meant I was sorry . It was absolutely a personal attack because you have nothing left top continue your desperate need to prove me wrong.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 14, 2021 19:02:09 GMT
I am sorry you have so little joy in your life that you need to fixate on trying to defend the words of the FORMER president! pixiechickSo we've officially moved on to the 'You have backed up all of your opinions with the facts you base them on, you have undeniably disproven all of the claims that you got it wrong, so all we have left is personal attacks portion of the discussion.' As president, he had an obligation to call out the racism and anti - Asian violence but never did, "It's important that we totally protect our Asian community in the US and all around the world. They're amazing people and the spreading of the virus is not their fault, in any way shape or form. They are working closely with us to get rid of it. We will prevail together. It's very important." -Trump You did not answer the question. Yes, I did by showing that your statement that they were only reporting that he said, not saying it themselves, is completely and utterly false.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 14, 2021 5:59:55 GMT
I'm not saying Trump didn't have influence, but if you're saying that the news media didn't influence anyone when they called it the China Virus and the Wuhan virus, then you're not being honest. No matter what he said and how convoluted the way in which he said it, he still did not tell anyone to drink bleach as crimsoncat said he did. Even Politifact has confirmed that. "It would n’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object." From the BBC. linkListen to the video of him talking about disinfection & injection. Bleach is a disinfectant. It is a common disinfectant. No, no one in there right mind would suggest injectionIng someone with a “disinfectant”. But trump is an incredibly stupid man and that big brain of his couldn’t come up with a more suitable term for whatever the hell he was talking about so he used “disinfectant”. So once again the President of the United States made himself look like clueless idiot that people ridiculed. In the process of ridiculing him, some simply gave a specific name to the disinfectant. Bleach. But your missing a very important point here. It’s not that he said disinfectant instead of bleach. If trump would have kept his mouth shut and not talked about stuff he doesn’t understand there would have been no discussion as to whether he said “disinfectant “ or “bleach” or any discussion about the hair brain comment he made in the first place. And that would have been a good thing all away around if had just kept his mouth shut. The job of the media is to report the news. They do this by repeating (or reporting) what trump said and by showing videos of him saying it. Just exactly how is that “influencing” people? The media, with the exception of Fox News maybe, didn’t come out and say “yeah trump’s right, we should call the virus “China Virus” or ”Kung flu”. They simply reported what he said and backed it up with video of him saying it. So just exactly how is that “influencing “.
trump, as President of the United States, was the originator of the term “China Virus” as such he is responsible for the fallout from using that term. Not the press for simply reporting it. As such he is solely responsible for the attacks on members of the Asian Community. They simply reported what he said and backed it up with video of him saying it. So just exactly how is that “influencing “. They did more than just report that he said it. THEY said it all on their own in contexts that had absolutely nothing to do with Trump saying it.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 14, 2021 4:28:00 GMT
I am a person of faith, but I do not identify as a Christian. I am not 100% what I believe at this point. I am struggling to understand how so many people who identify as Christians in my state are against teaching history in a truthful and open way. Here are my thoughts… Christians should stand for truth. Christians should love and value all people. Christians should stand for acceptance and understanding. Please help me understand and make sense of this. I am really struggling to see the opposing view in a non-political way. I am open to all views and hope this conversation does not lead to further division. I truly want to see both sides. What I'm seeing is people are objecting to this type of thing happening in schools and the workplace: And this letter from a teacher: Dear Joe (copies to Head of School, Board Trustees, & English Department Colleagues), I became a teacher at Dwight-Englewood because, as a parent, I loved how the school both nurtured and challenged my own children. Today, I am resigning from a job I love because D-E has changed in ways that undermine its mission and prevent me from holding true to my conscience as an educator. I believe that D-E is failing our students. Over the past few years, the school has embraced an ideology that is damaging to our students’ intellectual and emotional growth and destroying any chance at creating a true community among our diverse population. I reject the hostile culture of conformity and fear that has taken hold of our school. The school’s ideology requires students to see themselves not as individuals, but as representatives of a group, forcing them to adopt the status of privilege or victimhood. They must locate themselves within the oppressor or oppressed group, or some intersectional middle where they must reckon with being part-oppressor and part-victim. This theory of power hierarchies is only one way of seeing the world, and yet it pervades D-E as the singular way of seeing the world. As a result, students arrive in my classroom accepting this theory as fact: People born with less melanin in their skin are oppressors, and people born with more melanin in their skin are oppressed. Men are oppressors, women are oppressed, and so on. This is the dominant and divisive ideology that is guiding our adolescent students. In my classroom, I see up close how this orthodoxy hinders students’ ability to read, write, and think. I teach students who recoil from a poem because it was written by a man. I teach students who approach texts in search of the oppressor. I teach students who see inequities in texts that have nothing to do with power. Students have internalized the message that this is the way we read and think about the world, and as a result, they fixate on power and group identity. This fixation has stunted their ability to observe and engage with the full fabric of human experience in our literature. In my professional opinion, the school is failing to encourage healthy habits of mind, essential for growth, such as intellectual curiosity, humility, honesty, reason, and the capacity to question ideas and consider multiple perspectives. In our school, the opportunity to hear competing ideas is practically non-existent. How can students, who accept a single ideology as fact, learn to practice intellectual curiosity or humility or consider a competing idea they’ve never encountered? How can students develop higher order thinking if they are limited to seeing the world only through the lens of group identity and power? Sadly, the school is leading many to become true believers and outspoken purveyors of a regressive and illiberal orthodoxy. Understandably, these students have found comfort in their moral certainty, and so they have become rigid and closed-minded, unable or unwilling to consider alternative perspectives. These young students have no idea that the school has placed ideological blinders on them. Of course, not all students are true believers. Many pretend to agree because of pressure to conform. I’ve heard from students who want to ask a question but stop for fear of offending someone. I have heard from students who don’t participate in discussions for fear of being ostracized. One student did not want to develop her personal essay — about an experience she had in another country — for fear that it might mean that she was, without even realizing it, racist. In her fear, she actually stopped herself from thinking. This is the very definition of self-censorship. I care deeply about our students and our school, and so over the years, I have tried to introduce positive and constructive alternative views. My efforts have fallen on deaf ears. In 2019, I shared with you my negative experiences among hostile and doctrinaire colleagues. You expressed dismay, but I did not hear any follow up from you or other administrators. Since then, the stifling conformity has only intensified. Last fall, two administrators informed faculty that certain viewpoints simply would not be tolerated during our new “race explicit” conversations with our new “anti-racist” work. They said that no one would be allowed to question the orthodoxy regarding “systemic racism.” The message was clear, and the faculty went silent in response. The reality is that fear pervades the faculty. On at least two separate occasions in 2017 and 2018, our Head of School, standing at the front of Hajjar Auditorium, told the entire faculty that he would fire us all if he could so that he could replace us all with people of color. This year, administrators continue to assert D-E’s policy that we are hiring “for diversity.” D-E has become a workplace that is hostile toward educators based solely on their immutable traits. During a recent faculty meeting, teachers were segregated by skin color. Teachers who had light skin were placed into a “white caucus” group and asked to “remember” that we are “White” and “to take responsibility for [our] power and privilege.” D-E’s racial segregation of educators, aimed at leading us to rethink of ourselves as oppressors, was regressive and demeaning to us as individuals with our own moral compass and human agency. Will the school force racial segregation on our students next? I reject D-E’s essentialist, racialist thinking about myself, my colleagues, and my students. As a humanist educator, I strive to create an inclusive classroom by embracing the dignity and unique personality of each and every student; I want to empower all students with the skills and habits of mind that they need to fulfill their potential as learners and human beings. Neither the color of my skin nor the “group identity” assigned to me by D-E dictates my humanist beliefs or my work as an educator. Being told that it does is offensive and wrong, and it violates my dignity as a human being. My conscience does not have a color. D-E claims that we teach students how to think, not what to think. But sadly, that is just no longer true. I hope administrators and board members awaken in time to prevent this misguided and absolutist ideology from hollowing out D-E, as it has already hollowed out so many other institutions. ------ These are the type of issues that some parents and teachers are objecting to and it is being dismissed here as simply having the name wrong and only objecting to being taught the details of racism in history. I hope this gives you another perspective and you weigh it along with what ever else other people are saying about it.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 14, 2021 4:02:14 GMT
It doesn't matter that the media isn't the president. They have as much influence over the public, if not more. No he did not. No the media isn’t the President but it’s the media’s job to report what a president says. And it was dumpster don who was first to use the term “China virus” and then repeated the term over and over and over again when he made public remarks. So it’s all on trump no matter how you want to spin it. And him using that term resulted in attacks on elderly Asian people. By the way he did suggest injecting disinfectant into the body as a way to get rid of the virus. Bleach is a common disinfectant. Look it up. There was such an outcry that his staff tried to say he was being sarcastic. I'm not saying Trump didn't have influence, but if you're saying that the news media didn't influence anyone when they called it the China Virus and the Wuhan virus, then you're not being honest. No matter what he said and how convoluted the way in which he said it, he still did not tell anyone to drink bleach as crimsoncat said he did. Even Politifact has confirmed that. "It would n’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object."
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 13, 2021 5:45:59 GMT
And as to other people/media saying it, they weren’t the President of the United States who is suppose to set an example for the a American People. It doesn't matter that the media isn't the president. They have as much influence over the public, if not more. told people to ingest bleach, No he did not.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 12, 2021 21:26:08 GMT
And no, if the vaccine had become available during the Trump admin and he had suggested a door to door campaign to get people vaccinated, I don’t think there would have been “a shitstorm of angry democrats.” Based on hundreds... thousands? of the things that it's okay if you're a democrat -but if it's Trump... “a shitstorm of angry democrats”. All claiming he's Hitler and they're terrified and for the cherry on top, you're a racist if you disagree with their assessment. *Kamala outright said, she wouldn't take the vaccine if Trump suggested it. But now that Biden is in office that exact same vaccine is just fine. *The left leaning media all called it the Wuhan Virus because it came from Wuhan, until Trump said it because it came from Wuhan and then magically it was racist. *Trump calling out Loyalty Day is a terrifying thing to do despite it being a proclamation made by every single president since the 50s *Kids in the holding facilities that Obama had built are SUDDENLY "kids in cages" when Trump takes office, and SUDDENLY like magic, those same exact cages revert back to facilities when Biden takes office. *Democrats all call for upgrading the border wall and yet when Trump does, it's suddenly racist to say what the Democrats said. *Trump calls for a peaceful protest to "make your voices peacefully and patriotically heard" and he's inciting violence. Maxine Waters calls for actual "harassment of political opponents" and it's excused as "just encouraging people to speak out" and "use their right to protest". So, yes, I have no doubt there would have been “a shitstorm of angry democrats” if Trump had done it.
Despite all the attempts to show that what I based my thoughts on are wrong, I have backed up my statements and shown that they are not wrong. So I stand by original post and say yes, I have no doubt there would have been “a shitstorm of angry democrats” if Trump had done it.This entire thread proves it. Over and over again.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 12, 2021 21:24:55 GMT
March 2020 - Buzzfeed.. “Fox News And Donald Trump Are Embracing Xenophobia To Defend Against The Coronavirus.Before CA shutdown Nancy Pelosi took a walk with Chinese Leaders of Chinatown in San Francisco because trump was blaming China for the virus and folks quit shopping in Chinatown. It was also about the time the attacks started on Asian Americans. Every couple of days you would see on the news where someone would just run up to an elderly Asian person walking down the street and knock them flying. For no reason. Just knock them flying. I believe a couple died from their injuries. The whole time this was happening trump was blaming China for what was happening in the United States and repeatedly referred to it as the “China Virus“ to add fuel to the fire he was building. What he was doing was deflecting attention away from his own incompetence when it came to the handling of the virus in the United States. Nancy, walking through Chinatown shoulder to shoulder, maskless, hugging and kissing people and encouraging everyone to come too. If Trump would have done that, people would have condemned him as trying to kill people. Don't forget all of the news agencies calling it the same thing as he did and not one thread or even a single condemnation of THEM doing that.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 12, 2021 21:21:24 GMT
*Kamala outright said, she wouldn't take the vaccine if Trump suggested it. But now that Biden is in office that exact same vaccine is just fine. From NOTV “Washington: President Donald Trump on Friday piled pressure on the US drug regulator to quickly approve the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine as America readied to roll out mass immunizations.
The Washington Post reported that the White House told the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) chief Stephen Hahn to submit his resignation if the agency does not clear the vaccine by the end of the day.
Hahn later disputed the characterization of the call, but the alleged threat came as Trump tweeted that the agency was a "big, old, slow turtle" and told Hahn to get the "dam" vaccines out immediately.
An expert committee had already voted to grant an emergency use authorization, which was expected within days, as the FDA worked to iron out last-minute details with Pfizer.
These included a fact sheet for doctors. The FDA has said it wants to warn people with severe allergies to avoid the shots for now.
Trump's intervention reinserts politics into the scientific process, which could undermine vaccine confidence in the world's hardest-hit country, where the death toll is nearing 300,000.“
This is why Kamala Harris said what she said. A lot of people felt uneasy that trump, who is not a scientist, was pushing for the vaccine to be approved without completing the approval process for new drugs. In fact in CA, Governor Newsom, not trusting trump’s meddling with the approval process for new drugs, declared no FDA approved vaccines would be allowed in the state until the data from the clinical trials was reviewed by a panel of scientists in California first. You have to understand two things about trump, first he is dumber than dirt, and second he does not care about the well being of other people. Both of these things trump has proven over and over again. And yet, it's STILL THE SAME VACCINE that Trump pushed to get out to the people, as it is after Biden took office. Just as I said. Nothing you said changed what I said: "*Kamala outright said, she wouldn't take the vaccine if Trump suggested it. But now that Biden is in office that exact same vaccine is just fine." I'll even add that had it been Biden or Harris pushing the vaccine to get out that quickly, the narrative would have been along the lines of demonizing anyone on the Right that worried about the safety of doing that. Most likely in a thread just like this one was started to do.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 12, 2021 0:08:14 GMT
Okay, what did I get wrong? I've posted this twice already, but you've ignored it. Probably because it doesn't fit into your false narrative. I’m not getting into a point by point debate with you, but I already pointed out that Trump called it the Kung Flu virus which is very different from the left wing media initially referring to it as the China virus. Trump was called a racist for the term Kung Flu, not the China virus. Different names with very different connotations. So, yes your facts are twisted and false. I've seen CNN call Trump out for calling it a foreign virus, ABC called Trump out for calling it a foreign virus...
This reporter at the White House is objecting to Trump calling it the Chinese virus.The objections throughout this video are objecting to calling it the Wuhan virus, the China virus and a foreign virus. So, my facts are not twisted. I know I said I wouldn't debate point by point but here are 2 of your "facts" that are false, incomplete or inaccurate. Loyalty Day - I don't even remember Trump calling out loyalty day. I'm not sure there was the backlash that you seem to think, except for possibly on social media. Here's an article from your left wing media. www.npr.org/2017/05/01/526384758/trump-proclaims-may-1-loyalty-day-so-did-every-president-going-back-to-eisenhoweAnd this is only speculation, but if anyone was up in arms on social media, it was most likely because Trump calling out Loyalty Day takes on new meaning. Previous presidents did not demand complete loyalty to them like Trump did. There are so many examples of how he attacked anyone who disagreed with him. So again, not factually accurate. So many nuances to your "facts" that you overlook or ignore. Democrats calling for upgraded borders - I looked through 5 pages of Google and couldn't find anything referencing this. If you have a link, I would be happy to read it. Without proof, I don't think this claim is true either.There was an entire thread right here about how terrifying it was and calling him a dictator and how unsettling it was that he would proclaim a loyalty day. And here's the proof you asked for about the Democrats. The difference of attitude towards illegal immigrants at the beginning of the video vs. the end of the video is astonishingly noteworthy. Before Trump came down the escalator vs. after.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 11, 2021 19:18:24 GMT
Loyalty to the United States not the man ever... Never before Former! Upgrading sections is NOT building a new unnecessary wall. Lots and I pointed several out to you! Two. You pointed out 2 and they were addressed in case you forgot. "He didn't ask us to be loyal to him." "If upgrading it isn't racist, neither is installing something more effective. That's semantics, not racism." "It still remains that if it isn't racist for democrats to want to shore up the wall, it isn't racist for Trump."
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 11, 2021 18:43:34 GMT
Based on hundreds... thousands? of the things that it's okay if you're a democrat -but if it's Trump... “a shitstorm of angry democrats”. All claiming he's Hitler and they're terrified and for the cherry on top, you're a racist if you disagree with their assessment. *Kamala outright said, she wouldn't take the vaccine if Trump suggested it. But now that Biden is in office that exact same vaccine is just fine. *The left leaning media all called it the Wuhan Virus because it came from Wuhan, until Trump said it because it came from Wuhan and then magically it was racist. *Trump calling out Loyalty Day is a terrifying thing to do despite it being a proclamation made by every single president since the 50s *Kids in the holding facilities that Obama had built are SUDDENLY "kids in cages" when Trump takes office, and SUDDENLY like magic, those same exact cages revert back to facilities when Biden takes office. *Democrats all call for upgrading the border wall and yet when Trump does, it's suddenly racist to say what the Democrats said. *Trump calls for a peaceful protest to "make your voices peacefully and patriotically heard" and he's inciting violence. Maxine Waters calls for actual "harassment of political opponents" and it's excused as "just encouraging people to speak out" and "use their right to protest". Most of the above is factually incorrect. It’s interesting to see how the human mind can skew things to support preconceived ideas. (I’m sure you actually believe these things, by the way, and not actively trying to deceive.) Okay, what did I get wrong?
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 11, 2021 18:42:40 GMT
It's funny how you say you don't think anyone criticized him for Operation Warp Speed and then repeatedly criticize him for it. And yes, it IS a stupid argument. Left leaning Peas constantly make observations like the one that was made twice by a couple of other conservatives on this thread. Yet, Merge came along and tried to shut it down by being insulting and rude AND saying it was already discussed. As if she was in charge of the direction of the thread and what could be discussed on it. As if she couldn't possibly let people make observations she doesn't agree No, I didn’t criticize him for it, I just said that he doesn’t deserve a lot of credit for it. Not the same thing. That's a criticism. As is "a bare minimum that you would expect from an administration".
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 11, 2021 6:30:25 GMT
I don’t think anyone criticized Trump for Operation Warp Speed, except for perhaps , a poor choice of a name. How much credit does he really deserve for developing the vaccine vs the scientists that worked around the clock? And Pfizer had other funding to develop the vaccine. www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/11/24/938591815/pfizers-coronavirus-vaccine-supply-contract-excludes-many-taxpayer-protectionseta- If Republicans are whining that former didn’t get enough credit for the vaccine, perhaps it’s because Trump himself for once didn’t brag about the accomplishment. Instead, he focused on election fraud and rallies for the last months of his term. Overall, Trump badly mishandled the pandemic from the beginning. He mostly downplayed and ignored it, costing thousands of lives. Anything that he did accomplish like Operation Warp Speed was mostly a credit to others and a bare minimum that you would expect from an administration. So, no I don’t think he deserves a lot of credit for that. And this is a stupid argument - however, if he did community outreach to get the vaccine out to Americans, Democrats would have been shocked. Because that effort shows compassion and empathy, something he was sorely lacking. It's funny how you say you don't think anyone criticized him for Operation Warp Speed and then repeatedly criticize him for it. And yes, it IS a stupid argument. Left leaning Peas constantly make observations like the one that was made twice by a couple of other conservatives on this thread. Yet, Merge came along and tried to shut it down by being insulting and rude AND saying it was already discussed. As if she was in charge of the direction of the thread and what could be discussed on it. As if she couldn't possibly let people make observations she doesn't agree with. Ha, ha facts. Very funny. Your twisted version, perhaps and whataboutisms and false comparisons. Everything I stated in that list is completely true and not twisted in the slightest. Your point about loyalty is really unclear. Do you really need links or examples of how former demanded complete loyalty? No. I never asked for general examples. I spoke of Trumps Loyalty Day and someone expanded to the topic of loyalty to him, in an attempt to dismiss the fact they didn't like. Are you poking fun at Presidents Biden’s loyalty day proclamation? Personally, I much prefer President Biden’s perspective on loyalty. What in the world did I say that made you think I was?
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 11, 2021 1:53:05 GMT
Based on hundreds... thousands? of the things that it's okay if you're a democrat -but if it's Trump... “a shitstorm of angry democrats”. All claiming he's Hitler and they're terrified and for the cherry on top, you're a racist if you disagree with their assessment. *Kamala outright said, she wouldn't take the vaccine if Trump suggested it. But now that Biden is in office that exact same vaccine is just fine. *The left leaning media all called it the Wuhan Virus because it came from Wuhan, until Trump said it because it came from Wuhan and then magically it was racist. *Trump calling out Loyalty Day is a terrifying thing to do despite it being a proclamation made by every single president since the 50s *Kids in the holding facilities that Obama had built are SUDDENLY "kids in cages" when Trump takes office, and SUDDENLY like magic, those same exact cages revert back to facilities when Biden takes office. *Democrats all call for upgrading the border wall and yet when Trump does, it's suddenly racist to say what the Democrats said. *Trump calls for a peaceful protest to "make your voices peacefully and patriotically heard" and he's inciting violence. Maxine Waters calls for actual "harassment of political opponents" and it's excused as "just encouraging people to speak out" and "use their right to protest". So, yes, I have no doubt there would have been “a shitstorm of angry democrats” if Trump had done it.
Hardly surprising. Conservatives seem to be big on opinion vs fact. i.e vaccine efficacy, election fraud, election results, tunnels under the WH. Of course I’m sure that YOU don’t believe all of that nonsense. But many conservatives do. And yet, I based my opinion above on facts. Former requested loyalty from every one. I don't remember that in the Loyalty Day proclamation. Do you have a link? The wall.. that Mexico was supposed to pay for. He intention was to build his wall from San Diego to the Gulf. Not only did he not accomplish that, he paid a fortune to no-bid contractors and they got little done. In fact parts are already rusting... It still remains that if it isn't racist for democrats to want to shore up the wall, it isn't racist for Trump. Why are you shocked? She *never* responds in good faith. Ever. Just another lie to dismiss opposing opinions when you have nothing real to debate them with. This is how people used to respond to me before people like you turned public opinion on my respectful responses.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 11, 2021 1:50:51 GMT
So, we are thankful for that. But he got the vaccine but will not, to this day, encourage his followers to get it, therefore risking ALL their lives whether they get Covid and/or suffer long haul issues.. You know what they say about the word "but"...
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 11, 2021 0:08:20 GMT
Loyalty to the United States not the man ever... Never before Former! Upgrading sections is NOT building a new unnecessary wall. He didn't ask us to be loyal to him. If upgrading it isn't racist, neither is installing something more effective. That's semantics, not racism.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 11, 2021 0:04:59 GMT
Based on hundreds... thousands? of the things that it's okay if you're a democrat -but if it's Trump... “a shitstorm of angry democrats”. All claiming he's Hitler and they're terrified and for the cherry on top, you're a racist if you disagree with their assessment. *Kamala outright said, she wouldn't take the vaccine if Trump suggested it. But now that Biden is in office that exact same vaccine is just fine. *The left leaning media all called it the Wuhan Virus because it came from Wuhan, until Trump said it because it came from Wuhan and then magically it was racist. *Trump calling out Loyalty Day is a terrifying thing to do despite it being a proclamation made by every single president since the 50s *Kids in the holding facilities that Obama had built are SUDDENLY "kids in cages" when Trump takes office, and SUDDENLY like magic, those same exact cages revert back to facilities when Biden takes office. *Democrats all call for upgrading the border wall and yet when Trump does, it's suddenly racist to say what the Democrats said. *Trump calls for a peaceful protest to "make your voices peacefully and patriotically heard" and he's inciting violence. Maxine Waters calls for actual "harassment of political opponents" and it's excused as "just encouraging people to speak out" and "use their right to protest". So, yes, I have no doubt there would have been “a shitstorm of angry democrats” if Trump had done it.
I can’t believe you’re even defending former. He’s a racist because he didn’t just call it the Wuhan virus, he called it the Kung Flu virus. He did it repeatedly because he wanted to shift the focus from his terrible mishandling to blaming China. He also called Mexicans rapists and referred African countries as sh&thole countries and he defended white supremicists. Your whataboutisms don’t work, they’re all based on false comparisons. www.npr.org/2020/06/22/881810671/white-house-defends-trumps-use-of-racist-term-to-describe-coronavirusAnd no there would not have been an angry sh#tstorm of Democrats and Democrats would not have lost their damn minds if Trump sent people door to door. There was an angry sh$tstorm every time he did or said something stupid, offensive or racist. But, if he actually did something to stop the spread of the virus, Democrats would have been shocked. Operation Warp Speed was initiated under Trump.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 10, 2021 22:38:09 GMT
And no, if the vaccine had become available during the Trump admin and he had suggested a door to door campaign to get people vaccinated, I don’t think there would have been “a shitstorm of angry democrats.” Based on hundreds... thousands? of the things that it's okay if you're a democrat -but if it's Trump... “a shitstorm of angry democrats”. All claiming he's Hitler and they're terrified and for the cherry on top, you're a racist if you disagree with their assessment. *Kamala outright said, she wouldn't take the vaccine if Trump suggested it. But now that Biden is in office that exact same vaccine is just fine. *The left leaning media all called it the Wuhan Virus because it came from Wuhan, until Trump said it because it came from Wuhan and then magically it was racist. *Trump calling out Loyalty Day is a terrifying thing to do despite it being a proclamation made by every single president since the 50s *Kids in the holding facilities that Obama had built are SUDDENLY "kids in cages" when Trump takes office, and SUDDENLY like magic, those same exact cages revert back to facilities when Biden takes office. *Democrats all call for upgrading the border wall and yet when Trump does, it's suddenly racist to say what the Democrats said. *Trump calls for a peaceful protest to "make your voices peacefully and patriotically heard" and he's inciting violence. Maxine Waters calls for actual "harassment of political opponents" and it's excused as "just encouraging people to speak out" and "use their right to protest". So, yes, I have no doubt there would have been “a shitstorm of angry democrats” if Trump had done it.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 10, 2021 21:12:19 GMT
If Trump had of suggested doing anything like this, I wouldn’t be angry, no. Fallen off my chair in shock and still down for the count? Probably. This particular version of the Republican Party *never* would’ve done it though, so any theorizing he would or whataboutism is just another bad faith argument. As opposed to this good faith argument: Oh good, dumb and dumber have shown up. Bat phone up and running again?
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 9, 2021 23:05:34 GMT
And what office does Beto O'Rourke hold? Is he a decision maker? NO! pixiechick Please try better with your links.. ETA: truthfully if someone were coming for you guns they would look more like a SWAT team then probably two people in scrubs to discuss and/or administer a shot. She said “They’ll come to our houses and seize our guns!” was invented. I showed that it wasn't. That's it. That's all there was to what I said. You're arguing with me on something I didn't say.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 8, 2021 20:06:13 GMT
To think we’ve moved from the invented “They’ll come to our houses and seize our guns!” Not invented. ETA: I was having trouble including the video.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 3, 2021 17:56:30 GMT
Ewweeeeee,.... According to a report from The Mercury News, former Fox News personality -- and current girlfriend of Don Trump Jr. -- bragged to potential donors to Donald Trump's 2020 presidential campaign that she occasionally entertained her soul mate by dressing up as a "sexy cheerleader." *** Politico reported that senior Trump campaign officials, "...had been getting reports that Guilfoyle had been berating her staff. Appearing together at fundraisers, Guilfoyle and her boyfriend, Donald Trump Jr., would banter in sexually suggestive ways that made some donors uncomfortable." www.rawstory.com/kimberly-guilfoyle-2653632500/Good Christians Evangelical must have been thrilled!! Not surprised by this at all. She was skeevy like that on Fox. On tv! Constantly calling attention to herself as a sexual being. I was not sorry to see her go.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 3, 2021 14:00:23 GMT
It’s meant to be a sign of disrespect and degeneration of her as a woman and a VP.. The op is a die hard trumper/republican. Our local Fox News does this—will say President in front of trump but refers to President Biden as Joe Biden or Biden. Along those lines... is anyone still purposefully mispronouncing her name? Ass hats. Purposefully, yes. Ass hats. But she mispronounces her own name... www.facebook.com/1683706831/videos/10215057680670455/
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 2, 2021 21:45:31 GMT
I love a Coke and sometimes an orange Fanta. I stopped the diet Coke a long time ago and I try to stick to water more than sugary drinks.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 2, 2021 5:29:11 GMT
Trying new restaurants and new foods is a huge part of the adventure of travel. That's what we think too. We recently went on a family trip with our kids, their kids and significant others and we all agreed with this. We had some really good food that we wouldn't have gotten to try in our own area.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 2, 2021 4:19:27 GMT
That doesn't make them any less safe from abuse and harm. Good to know that they have improved the process. Yes they are kept in the exact same "cages" that were used under Trump. Now that Biden is using them, they are "facilities". Funny how that works. “We had almost an 800% increase April over April of the amount of fentanyl that has been apprehended by the Texas Department of Public Safety. We have obtained enough fentanyl coming across the border to kill every single person in the state of New York.” Governor Abbott I guess Biden doesn't care about their terrible living conditions either if he's deporting them back into it. Going by your own logic and all. Absolutely true. Finding and dealing with the "root cause" takes time and meanwhile their policies and words are putting people in danger and not fixing the crisis. That's obvious when this administration's words and actions are at odds. I was getting to respond and reread what you had posted and in the process I decided you are either ignorant of the facts or are being deliberately ignorant for your own reasons. I can’t decide which. So it’s a pass on my part. But I do appreciate that you let me know why you think I’m an extremist. So, what did I get wrong?
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 2, 2021 1:19:11 GMT
That doesn't make them any less safe from abuse and harm. Good to know that they have improved the process. Yes they are kept in the exact same "cages" that were used under Trump. Now that Biden is using them, they are "facilities". Funny how that works. “We had almost an 800% increase April over April of the amount of fentanyl that has been apprehended by the Texas Department of Public Safety. We have obtained enough fentanyl coming across the border to kill every single person in the state of New York.” Governor Abbott I guess Biden doesn't care about their terrible living conditions either if he's deporting them back into it. Going by your own logic and all. Absolutely true. Finding and dealing with the "root cause" takes time and meanwhile their policies and words are putting people in danger and not fixing the crisis. That's obvious when this administration's words and actions are at odds. I was getting to respond and reread what you had posted and in the process I decided you are either ignorant of the facts or are being deliberately ignorant for your own reasons. I can’t decide which. So it’s a pass on my part. Riiight. That's why you're "not" going to respond to me.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 1, 2021 22:48:44 GMT
The parents of this kids are paying these folks to bring their kids and “drop” them off at the border. That doesn't make them any less safe from abuse and harm. actually no, the kids are not kept in cages. They are processed and moved to other locations. The Biden Administration, while at first were overwhelmed with these kids have gotten the process down to two-three days before they are moved. Good to know that they have improved the process. Yes they are kept in the exact same "cages" that were used under Trump. Now that Biden is using them, they are "facilities". Funny how that works. The vast majority of drugs are smuggled in through legal checkpoints, via tunnels, & by sea. “We had almost an 800% increase April over April of the amount of fentanyl that has been apprehended by the Texas Department of Public Safety. We have obtained enough fentanyl coming across the border to kill every single person in the state of New York.” Governor Abbott That reversal was to get the folks out of terrible living conditions, something former didn’t care about. Actually the Biden Administration is deporting folks under article 42. Quit a few actually. I guess Biden doesn't care about their terrible living conditions either if he's deporting them back into it. Going by your own logic and all. oh bullshit. That’s not true. Absolutely true. For giggles sake I asked my friend google if the President of Guatemala said what you’re claiming. Couldn’t find it. So if you have a link…. Definition of “root” (non plant related) - “The basic cause , source, or origin of something”. Contrary to what you are pushing, finding the root cause won’t be found at the southern border but at the point of origin. Which happens to be the countries these folks are leaving from. Finding and dealing with the "root cause" takes time and meanwhile their policies and words are putting people in danger and not fixing the crisis. But one thing for sure whether or not Vice President Harris goes to the border for a photo op, nothing is going to change. That's obvious when this administration's words and actions are at odds.
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