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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 22:45:00 GMT
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 8, 2021 22:54:47 GMT
I can’t imagine what the defense will say to defend this and I hope and pray that there is a conviction. I know it won’t change what happened. There is also no way his sentence will be equal to what he deserves and it won’t fix the systemic racism rampant in the police force (and regular citizens) but for the love of everything holy let him be convicted and serve time for the murder he committed.*
Sorry for the massive run on sentence
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Post by flanz on Mar 8, 2021 22:57:45 GMT
I can’t imagine what the defense will say to defend this and I hope and pray that there is a conviction. I know it won’t change what happened. There is also no way his sentence will be equal to what he deserves and it won’t fix the systemic racism rampant in the police force (and regular citizens) but for the love of everything holy let him be convicted and serve time for the murder he committed.* Sorry for the massive run on sentence Thanks for the link, Olan. I agree with what Skellinton has written here, x 1,000! |
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Post by chances on Mar 8, 2021 23:23:39 GMT
I can’t imagine what the defense will say to defend this and I hope and pray that there is a conviction. I know it won’t change what happened. There is also no way his sentence will be equal to what he deserves and it won’t fix the systemic racism rampant in the police force (and regular citizens) but for the love of everything holy let him be convicted and serve time for the murder he committed.* Sorry for the massive run on sentence I think part of the defense was something like: that his “tactic” is used and sanctioned by the police force in other circumstances. That he was acting within the bounds of what is typically permissible but with horrible consequences. Last time so checked anyway. |
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Post by Olan on Mar 8, 2021 23:26:23 GMT
I can’t imagine what the defense will say to defend this and I hope and pray that there is a conviction. I know it won’t change what happened. There is also no way his sentence will be equal to what he deserves and it won’t fix the systemic racism rampant in the police force (and regular citizens) but for the love of everything holy let him be convicted and serve time for the murder he committed.* Sorry for the massive run on sentence I think part of the defense is that his “technique” is used and sanctioned by the police force. Which is why I am prayerful my ancestors will come up with punishment for Derek Chauvin before the system let’s him walk away. I hope it involves his airway. |
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 9, 2021 0:22:08 GMT
I think part of the defense is that his “technique” is used and sanctioned by the police force. Which is why I am prayerful my ancestors will come up with punishment for Derek Chauvin before the system let’s him walk away. I hope it involves his airway. I would love for his punishment to be what he did done to him. An eye for an eye. I know being a liberal I am not supposed to be for the death penalty, but I am in cases like this and think the victim’s family should be able to choose the manner if they want to. I think it is reprehensible that “technique” he used is sanctioned by the police but that doesn’t erase the fact that DC employed it so casually with his damn hand in his pocket for almost 9 minutes. When George was calling for his momma. While George wasn’t struggling. While George ceased breathing. When he checked for George’s pulse and couldn’t find one. A minute after an ambulance arrived. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Mar 9, 2021 0:35:02 GMT
This is NOT my opinion, but what is being talked about here in MN. One of the things I have heard is that they are going after his drug use, and the amt of drugs in his system when he died. That the drugs actually killed him, not the Ahole kneeling on his neck. The other is his resistance to the arrest.
I just hope everyone is respectful and nothing else is burned or destroyed. Peacefully demonstrate all you want!
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Post by Olan on Mar 9, 2021 0:40:32 GMT
I’m okay if demonstrators decide peacefully protesting is the route they’d like to take.
I’ve found that only Black people get admonished for protesting in less than peaceful ways while white people are given permission to fuck shit up if their college team wins.
My only issue is the lack of organization. It makes no sense to loot a target and leave the police precinct untouched.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 9, 2021 1:40:17 GMT
I’m okay if demonstrators decide peacefully protesting is the route they’d like to take. I’ve found that only Black people get admonished for protesting in less than peaceful ways while white people are given permission to fuck shit up if their college team wins. My only issue is the lack of organization. It makes no sense to loot a target and leave the police precinct untouched. 1/6/21 |
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Post by edie3 on Mar 9, 2021 1:57:29 GMT
For what it is worth:
Medical examiner report added to former MPD officers' defense in George Floyd case
Handwritten notes of a law enforcement interview with Dr. Andrew Baker, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, say Floyd had 11 ng/mL of fentanyl in his system.
"If he were found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be acceptable to call an OD. Deaths have been certified with levels of 3," Baker told investigators.
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Post by sabrinae on Mar 9, 2021 2:18:55 GMT
For what it is worth: Medical examiner report added to former MPD officers' defense in George Floyd case Handwritten notes of a law enforcement interview with Dr. Andrew Baker, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, say Floyd had 11 ng/mL of fentanyl in his system. "If he were found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be acceptable to call an OD. Deaths have been certified with levels of 3," Baker told investigators. Except he was alive and breathing without distress until someone decided to kneel on his neck. But I fear this officer will get away with killing him because of this. |
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Post by edie3 on Mar 9, 2021 4:47:18 GMT
Except he was alive and breathing without distress until someone decided to kneel on his neck. But I fear this officer will get away with killing him because of this. Me too. Seems to me that is the only chance they have, but who knows. I will never forget that smug look on his face. Motherfucker. |
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Post by DEX on Mar 9, 2021 15:48:42 GMT
This is going to be Chauvin's defense.
KARE-TV Minneapolis-St. Paul
Chauvin's attorney says he and other lawyers found George Floyd's drugs in back of police car
Lou Raguse 15 hrs ago
During routine motions Monday afternoon, Derek Chauvin's attorney Eric Nelson revealed that investigators apparently missed something in the back of the police car officers tried putting George Floyd into the evening he died.
Jury selection to begin Tuesday morning in Chauvin trial unless court of appeals intervenes
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"It was very apparent what was in Squad 320 was controlled substances," Nelson said.
The Minneapolis Police Department squad car has been in storage at the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension garage pending this trial. One day a couple months ago, Nelson, along with the other defense attorneys and some staff members, went there to look over the car.
Inside, Nelson said they spotted some chewed up pills and a full pill. And the state tested them.
"They are in fact methamphetamine and fentanyl, and they contain the DNA of George Floyd," Nelson said.
The implication is that the drugs were in Floyd's mouth, and he spit them out when the former officers were trying to place him in the police car.
The state has given no explanation how the BCA could have missed that potential evidence.
Nelson brought it up Monday in the course of arguing for the 2019 arrest of George Floyd to be allowed as evidence, which Judge Peter Cahill said he most likely will not allow it.
But the drug evidence itself will likely play a key role in Chauvin's defense. They plan on claiming Floyd died of a drug overdose rather than from Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck.
In December, the BCA had to search Floyd's car a second time, because they failed to collect some pieces of evidence. According to a search warrant, they ended up finding fentanyl and meth.
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Post by femalebusiness on Mar 9, 2021 17:10:25 GMT
There are more than a few on this very board who are addicted to pain pills and other meds. If they go to the store and a cop kills them they would also have drugs in their system. Does that mean that they deserved to die? Or that the cop should get off?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 9, 2021 17:15:53 GMT
There are more than a few on this very board who are addicted to pain pills and other meds. If they go to the store and a cop kills them they would also have drugs in their system. Does that mean that they deserved to die? Or that the cop should get off? No, not!! |
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Post by femalebusiness on Mar 9, 2021 17:18:23 GMT
There are more than a few on this very board who are addicted to pain pills and other meds. If they go to the store and a cop kills them they would also have drugs in their system. Does that mean that they deserved to die? Or that the cop should get off? No, not!! 😂🤣 |
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Post by femalebusiness on Mar 9, 2021 17:21:48 GMT
Oops. That response was inappropriate. I thought you were agreeing sarcastically not just agreeing to the last couple of questions. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 9, 2021 17:27:26 GMT
NP.
I have great difficulty trying to copy and pasting pieces here on my phone.
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 9, 2021 17:45:11 GMT
There are more than a few on this very board who are addicted to pain pills and other meds. If they go to the store and a cop kills them they would also have drugs in their system. Does that mean that they deserved to die? Or that the cop should get off? I know this is rhetorical, but I believe the answer would vary based on the color of their skin. I am fairly confident that as a white woman I could be high on PCP and waving a gun around a police station parking lot and I would be in less danger then a black person walking down a street. |
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Post by luv2ps on Mar 9, 2021 17:45:50 GMT
I’m okay if demonstrators decide peacefully protesting is the route they’d like to take. I’ve found that only Black people get admonished for protesting in less than peaceful ways while white people are given permission to fuck shit up if their college team wins. My only issue is the lack of organization. It makes no sense to loot a target and leave the police precinct untouched. So are you saying that a police precinct should be vandalized during a demonstration? If so why should the whole PD be targeted for one bad cop? Much like a race being targeted for a bad apple! |
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 9, 2021 17:49:13 GMT
I’m okay if demonstrators decide peacefully protesting is the route they’d like to take. I’ve found that only Black people get admonished for protesting in less than peaceful ways while white people are given permission to fuck shit up if their college team wins. My only issue is the lack of organization. It makes no sense to loot a target and leave the police precinct untouched. So are you saying that a police precinct should be vandalized during a demonstration? If so why should the whole PD be targeted for one bad cop? Much like a race being targeted for a bad apple! I should probably just ignore you, because I can see where this is heading, but it sure as hell isn’t one bad cop. How many cops witnessed DC murder George Floyd? |
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Post by femalebusiness on Mar 9, 2021 17:52:28 GMT
I’m okay if demonstrators decide peacefully protesting is the route they’d like to take. I’ve found that only Black people get admonished for protesting in less than peaceful ways while white people are given permission to fuck shit up if their college team wins. My only issue is the lack of organization. It makes no sense to loot a target and leave the police precinct untouched. So are you saying that a police precinct should be vandalized during a demonstration? If so why should the whole PD be targeted for one bad cop? Much like a race being targeted for a bad apple! No, that is not what I hear her saying. I heard that Target did nothing to deserve that. Cops did. That is just a fact. Anger should be directed at those who deserve it. |
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Post by luv2ps on Mar 9, 2021 18:27:27 GMT
So are you saying that a police precinct should be vandalized during a demonstration? If so why should the whole PD be targeted for one bad cop? Much like a race being targeted for a bad apple! No, that is not what I hear her saying. I heard that Target did nothing to deserve that. Cops did. That is just a fact. Anger should be directed at those who deserve it. I should probably just ignore you, because I can see where this is heading, but it sure as hell isn’t one bad cop. How many cops witnessed DC murder George Floyd? So ALL cops should be targeted?? Just for the record I don't think what DC did was right but it would have never happened if GF would have stayed in the car! |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Mar 9, 2021 18:31:45 GMT
The thing is, when the 3rd precinct was destroyed in that area, the crime rate went sky high. Black and ethnic business's were big in that area, and they were destroyed, and cont to be targeted and destroyed. A lot due to the lack of police presence. There has to be police precincts in order to keep peace. Right now Minneapolis is called Murdiappolis for a reason, and it's not because of the dirty police dept that they are working to clean up.
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Post by DEX on Mar 9, 2021 18:32:47 GMT
No, that is not what I hear her saying. I heard that Target did nothing to deserve that. Cops did. That is just a fact. Anger should be directed at those who deserve it. I should probably just ignore you, because I can see where this is heading, but it sure as hell isn’t one bad cop. How many cops witnessed DC murder George Floyd? So ALL cops should be targeted?? Just for the record I don't think what DC did was right but it would have never happened if GF would have stayed in the car! Stayed in the car?  . George Floyd was going to be removed from the car one way or another. There is no way he wasn’t at least going to be questioned about trying to pass of a fake $20 bill at the Cup Market. That is what started this mess in the first place. Over $20. |
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Post by LiLi on Mar 9, 2021 18:44:56 GMT
I’m okay if demonstrators decide peacefully protesting is the route they’d like to take. I’ve found that only Black people get admonished for protesting in less than peaceful ways while white people are given permission to fuck shit up if their college team wins. My only issue is the lack of organization. It makes no sense to loot a target and leave the police precinct untouched. So are you saying that a police precinct should be vandalized during a demonstration? If so why should the whole PD be targeted for one bad cop? Much like a race being targeted for a bad apple! It isn't just, "one bad cop." All the cops who participate in, turn the other cheek to and don't speak up about issues of discrimination are not good cops, either. |
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Post by finsup on Mar 9, 2021 19:51:22 GMT
So ALL cops should be targeted?? Just for the record I don't think what DC did was right but it would have never happened if GF would have stayed in the car! Imagine living in 2021 and still believing this bullshit... |
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 9, 2021 20:01:01 GMT
So ALL cops should be targeted?? Just for the record I don't think what DC did was right but it would have never happened if GF would have stayed in the car! Imagine living in 2021 and still believing this bullshit... It is horrifying, and I feel like in some respect ignoring her is the best thing to do because we can't fix stupid, but also I am not willing to stand by and let crap like that go unchallenged. I know it is like shoveling snow during a snow storm, but good lord it is pathetic that people still use statements like hers to justify murder. |
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Post by hop2 on Mar 9, 2021 20:06:16 GMT
No, that is not what I hear her saying. I heard that Target did nothing to deserve that. Cops did. That is just a fact. Anger should be directed at those who deserve it. I should probably just ignore you, because I can see where this is heading, but it sure as hell isn’t one bad cop. How many cops witnessed DC murder George Floyd? So ALL cops should be targeted?? Just for the record I don't think what DC did was right but it would have never happened if GF would have stayed in the car! It wouldn’t have happened if he was white. |
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 9, 2021 20:10:51 GMT
So ALL cops should be targeted?? Just for the record I don't think what DC did was right but it would have never happened if GF would have stayed in the car! Stayed in the car? . George Floyd was going to be removed from the car one way or another. There is no way he wasn’t at least going to be questioned about trying to pass of a fake $20 bill at the Cup Market. That is what started this mess in the first place. Over $20. Exactly. Imagine being a white person questioned by the cops while just walking down the street. Everyone has a fight or flight instinct. As a white woman I would be scared and nervous and would probably burst into tears because that is my go to reaction for stress, but I would never for a second fear for my safety. Now imagine being a Black man. Completely different situation. He had a lifetime of seeing how Black men are treated by cops and likely knew his life was in danger. He knew he hadn't spent a bad 20 bill yet he was being manhandled into a car by people he had every reason to fear. |
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. George Floyd was going to be removed from the car one way or another. There is no way he wasn’t at least going to be questioned about trying to pass of a fake $20 bill at the Cup Market. That is what started this mess in the first place. Over $20.
