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Post by cindyupnorth on Apr 15, 2021 23:37:36 GMT
But one of the commentators mentioned a mistrial, like the pulmologist said something he wasn't supposed to. www.startribune.com/chauvin-defense-rests-its-case-without-his-testimony/600046458/This explains it better then I could, read further down, but in a nutshell, one medical examiner said Floyd may have died from some carbon monoxide in his blood, etc. After the fact the actual medical examiner that did the actual examine I believe said there WERE carbon monoxide tests done, but they were never shared. And the judge threatened that now would not be a good time to share them, and if anyone did, it would be a mistrial. Read the article. It explains it better.
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Post by edie3 on Apr 16, 2021 1:25:02 GMT
This explains it better then I could They explained it on the national news, but thanks.
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Post by uksue on Apr 16, 2021 2:04:51 GMT
I’m starting to have a ‘Casey Anthony’ deja vu’ feeling about this trial - but I’m praying I’m wrong. I just feel the prosecution have missed a few things, and it’s down to them to prove the crime - the defence don’t have to prove anything.
How anyone could watch that death from all those different angles and not see a crime is beyond me, but I felt the same about CA ( and OJ!)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2021 15:48:12 GMT
You are right that one juror can mess it up. But... let me tell you my experience: I have only mentioned to TPs a couple of times about the trial for the man that attacked me. The trial itself took three weeks. There was DNA evidence. I spent a day and a half on the stand giving my testimony. In the end, he was convicted and got life! Thank God! He brutally attacked 3 other women but my case was the only conviction, perhaps because of the DNA. About 5 or 6 months after the trial ended, I was walking out of a grocery store. I heard my name...but it was my maiden name (in the trial, my maiden name was used). I turned around and the person who called me was not someone I recognized. The woman told me.."you may not remember me, but I was one of the jurors in the trial for the man that attacked you." I STILL get chills remembering that moment quite honestly. She spent the next 20 minutes telling me what went on in the jury room. When the judge sent the jury to deliberate, they hadn't been out long. Maybe one hour and a half tops. They claimed they were a hung jury. The judge was pissed and told them they had not deliberated for long enough and to go back and deliberate more. Evidently, one young woman refused to convict the guy because she fell asleep during my testimony. The other jurors were SO convinced of his guilt that they refused to let her go so easy. They went back through the ENTIRE trial and the evidence until she agreed he was guilty. I am hoping that justice will truly prevail for Floyd and his family. It's time for healing to begin and justice must be given for that to happen. OMG how awful for you to have to 1) go through the attack and 2) endure a trial and all that it brings up. I'm so sorry allipeas ! I'm thankful that your jury took the time to go through it all again and convict him! I can only imagine how alarmed and then relieved you were when this lady approached you. I wish every juror was like her and gave it all her full attention. I'm praying justice will prevail,too! Take care, sweet pea friend! Thank you dear pea friend. I do remember when they came back so quickly and claimed a mistrial, I collapsed in the witness room. I had been through so much during the trial since "he" was allowed to walk in and out of the courtroom during the whole thing. I knew mentally, I could not do it again. Even though this was back in 1997, I remember the moment so clearly when the jury foreman stood and read off the verdict...GUILTY! I had my counselor from Rape Crisis and the actual police detective that caught him on either side of me holding my hand. I watched at least 6 BIG bailiffs just appear out of no where close in on him, cuff him and take him away. In a way, I feel like perhaps I was meant to run into this young lady. It really helped to give me closure to something so traumatic. It gave me strength too. This guy was really evil and the detective told me that just from her experience, this guy could well have gone on to murder his victims as he was getting progressively violent with each attack. I KNOW that I am luckier than some in that I really did get justice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2021 15:50:07 GMT
I’m starting to have a ‘Casey Anthony’ deja vu’ feeling about this trial - but I’m praying I’m wrong. I just feel the prosecution have missed a few things, and it’s down to them to prove the crime - the defence don’t have to prove anything. How anyone could watch that death from all those different angles and not see a crime is beyond me, but I felt the same about CA ( and OJ!) I hate to say that I am feeling the same way. I am still SICK over the Casey Anthony trial. What she did to that beautiful baby.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 17, 2021 16:04:28 GMT
I’m starting to have a ‘Casey Anthony’ deja vu’ feeling about this trial - but I’m praying I’m wrong. I just feel the prosecution have missed a few things, and it’s down to them to prove the crime - the defence don’t have to prove anything. How anyone could watch that death from all those different angles and not see a crime is beyond me, but I felt the same about CA ( and OJ!) I hate to say that I am feeling the same way. I am still SICK over the Casey Anthony trial. What she did to that beautiful baby. I am almost sick with worry about what will happen if the verdict is not guilty.
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Post by my3freaks on Apr 18, 2021 2:26:58 GMT
OMG how awful for you to have to 1) go through the attack and 2) endure a trial and all that it brings up. I'm so sorry allipeas ! I'm thankful that your jury took the time to go through it all again and convict him! I can only imagine how alarmed and then relieved you were when this lady approached you. I wish every juror was like her and gave it all her full attention. I'm praying justice will prevail,too! Take care, sweet pea friend! Thank you dear pea friend. I do remember when they came back so quickly and claimed a mistrial, I collapsed in the witness room. I had been through so much during the trial since "he" was allowed to walk in and out of the courtroom during the whole thing. I knew mentally, I could not do it again. Even though this was back in 1997, I remember the moment so clearly when the jury foreman stood and read off the verdict...GUILTY! I had my counselor from Rape Crisis and the actual police detective that caught him on either side of me holding my hand. I watched at least 6 BIG bailiffs just appear out of no where close in on him, cuff him and take him away. In a way, I feel like perhaps I was meant to run into this young lady. It really helped to give me closure to something so traumatic. It gave me strength too. This guy was really evil and the detective told me that just from her experience, this guy could well have gone on to murder his victims as he was getting progressively violent with each attack. I KNOW that I am luckier than some in that I really did get justice. My heart breaks for you reading this. I'm so sorry you went through something so terrible. 💔💗 💙 I am hoping the defense had to rest so quickly because they just didn't have much to work with. How do you defend that? I was hoping Chauvin would take the stand. The prosecution would've destroyed him, and I wouldn't have been mad at that. doublepopcorn
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Post by Skellinton on Apr 19, 2021 15:14:20 GMT
Closing arguments by the prosecution seem extremely compelling. Please, God, let the verdict come back guilty.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 24, 2021 22:57:30 GMT
He went too far... Dr Fowler Controversial Chauvin trial witness will have his previous cases investigatedMatthew Chapman April 24, 2021 On Saturday, The Washington Post reported that Maryland officials will be opening an investigation into the death investigations managed by Dr. David Fowler, the former state medical examiner who testified for the defense in the murder trial of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin. "David Fowler, who was Maryland's chief medical examiner from 2002 to 2019, served as a key witness for Chauvin, whose high-profile trial ended this week with a jury convicting the former Minneapolis officer of murder and manslaughter in the death of George Floyd," reported Emily Davies and Ovetta Wiggins. "Fowler broke with the Hennepin County medical examiner, among others, to classify Floyd's killing as 'undetermined' and not a homicide ... Fowler testified that the primary cause of Floyd's death was cardiac arrhythmia during police restraint due to underlying heart disease. He also said that Floyd's drug use and exposure to carbon monoxide from the police car contributed to his death."According to the report, part of the controversy is that Fowler oversaw the examination of another police-involved death that a lawsuit filing said was "chillingly similar" to Floyd's murder — which Fowler also ruled was not the fault of police. "In 2018, a 19-year-old college student named Anton Black died after interacting with a Greensboro officer responding to a call of a possible kidnapping on Maryland's Eastern Shore," said the report. "'Anton Black died because police employed excessive force, laying him out prone on his stomach, lying on top of him for approximately six minutes and approximately five minutes after he was handcuffed, and folding his legs toward the sky in a manner that further compromised his ability to breathe,' asserts a lawsuit the Black family has filed against several public officials in the case including Fowler." Fowler also led the office during the in-custody death of Freddie Gray, who suffered fatal neck injuries while restrained in the back of a Baltimore police vehicle. That death was ruled a homicide, although none of the officers involved in that incident were convicted of a crime. Fowler defends all of his work as proper, and the Maryland Attorney General's office is defending him. www.rawstory.com/derek-chauvin-2652765260/
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Post by peasquared on Apr 25, 2021 0:10:44 GMT
allipeas, somehow I missed your post. That is just horrible, I am so very sorry that happened to you! I think you were meant to run into that lady, too! I'm sure she brought a bit of peace to you. THANK YOU for being so strong and brave and getting that evil man off the streets. I hope you are getting stronger each each day, each year. Big hugs, dear friend!
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